Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:12:59
NA: Cannonkeys
EU: mykeyboard
Asia: Monokei
OCE: Daily Clack
What is being offered?
- PCB (designed by Ender, QMK and VIA, USB Mini B, ESD protection, layout is same as original PCB but with ISO support added)
- Daughterboard (includes stand offs, jst connectors, light diffuser, light bleed protector)
Fill out IC form so you can give me feedback on what y'all want.
IC FORM HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeqp9zJnkOGf_VgqmuKIeFTiWa5hEWg6dfpolts2t4BUhc1Ew/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Post by: bisoromi on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:14:01
Post by: noricon on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:15:20
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:19:58
I read matrix 1.2og and got so hyped and now I see its just you flexing. >:D
That's just evil.
Post by: IMZO on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:26:15
Post by: Ryanticz on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:27:48
Post by: modeseven on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:36:00
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:47:25
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Post by: Kho on Sat, 02 May 2020, 23:41:29
Post by: hnaeht on Sun, 03 May 2020, 00:01:00
Post by: chowbabyloving on Sun, 03 May 2020, 01:25:42
Post by: Emir on Sun, 03 May 2020, 02:34:17
Post by: Smoff on Sun, 03 May 2020, 03:19:09
Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!This!
I am in for at least a couple pcbs though!
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Post by: keyberzerker on Sun, 03 May 2020, 11:07:20
Pls!
Also as others noted maybe it would be nicer if you offer it with polycarb plate instead of fr4
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 03 May 2020, 11:12:33
Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!
PC plate please!
Post by: Emir on Sun, 03 May 2020, 11:55:16
Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!This!
I am in for at least a couple pcbs though!
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Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!
PC plate please!
Just fill in the form in regards to pc plate, I think it's the best way to show interest. :D
Post by: Takata on Sun, 03 May 2020, 12:10:57
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:05:05
Post by: chowbabyloving on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:47:32
Never filled out a ic form so fast.
Aren't PC plates more difficult to cut? I believe you can cut FR4 and pom with a laser but PC needs to be cnc'ed?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:55:09
Never filled out a ic form so fast.
Aren't PC plates more difficult to cut? I believe you can cut FR4 and pom with a laser but PC needs to be cnc'ed?
almost positive you can waterjet it but i'm not an expert
Post by: surfmurder on Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:14:15
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:43:31
Ender dug into the QMK file for 1.2og and found that the lightbar portion utilizes the QMK lighting controls, so should be no issue on getting the light bar portion to work.
In regards to recreating the light bar PCB, I do not have plans on it but if enough people ask for it, I may consider. My reasoning for not wanting to recreate it is because I don't think it breaks or dies if you short the PCB (let me know if that is false).
Plates outside of FR4, I will consider but it is unlikely. I am toying with the idea of releasing plate files so that y'all can get plates made in whatever material you like.
Someone asked about foam, I can look into it.
2.0 PCBs, I don't own a 2.0 (I do want to own one one day), but I don't have plans for that. Now, if someone mails me a PCB and plate, I will be more inclined to get that done.
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:13:28
Never filled out a ic form so fast.
Aren't PC plates more difficult to cut? I believe you can cut FR4 and pom with a laser but PC needs to be cnc'ed?
almost positive you can waterjet it but i'm not an expert
You can indeed
Post by: Honey on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:40:14
Post by: shansoft on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:01:58
There should be some that already supports it.
For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.
Post by: Takata on Sun, 03 May 2020, 17:52:49
Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?
There should be some that already supports it.
For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.
H87a does not work in the matrix 1.2og, bottom row spacing is odd on matrix boards in general.
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 03 May 2020, 19:52:39
super interested! i realise it's far out but do you have any idea of what colour the PCB & plate will be?Depends what PCB manu can do and how spicy I'm feeling. FR4 plate will just be black probably.
Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?I'd like to retain the original construction of the 1.2 with the use of the separate PCB for the lightbar.
There should be some that already supports it.
For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.
Post by: Zach on Sun, 03 May 2020, 20:32:37
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 03 May 2020, 20:38:01
Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?
There should be some that already supports it.
For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.
The spacing on Matrix TKLs in general is different from H87a. I measured the spacing between f12 and print screen on my 2.0. It is shorter than H87a.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 03 May 2020, 20:42:22
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:05:07
If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:35:48
From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpfulIf no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:46:25
From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpfulIf no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.
Correct, I currently have an issue with mine where one of the LEDs in the strip triggers incorrectly when cycling through the colors.
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:34:32
From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpfulIf no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.
From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpfulIf no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.
Correct, I currently have an issue with mine where one of the LEDs in the strip triggers incorrectly when cycling through the colors.
Okay, I didn't know this. I'll definitely get the daughter board replacement created (assuming Ender is okay and willing do so).
If other owners can chime in on other problems they may have had with the PCB, please share here or DM me and I'll try to get those issues resolved with this PCB.
Thank you.
Post by: keyberzerker on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:08:16
;D
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:35:05
My only problem is that stock PCB does not support ISO!
;D
The white QMK PCBs do but I get what you are saying.
Post by: staunch-hexagram on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:24:05
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:50:13
do you happen to know if the 1.2 PCB would be compatible with Matrix's other TKLs? it's kinda hard to find much info on the specs for each one to compareI do not, sorry.
But if someone does know, please feel free to chime in.
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 04 May 2020, 20:00:25
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 04 May 2020, 20:01:49
do you happen to know if the 1.2 PCB would be compatible with Matrix's other TKLs? it's kinda hard to find much info on the specs for each one to compareI do not, sorry.
But if someone does know, please feel free to chime in.
would have to get the calipers out but afiak each series of matrix board uses a different footprint
Post by: rope on Tue, 05 May 2020, 03:47:54
Post by: juaninamilli on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:04:13
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:34:31
Are you going to make this a thin boi pcb like the original? I believe it’s 1.2mm but I didn’t put a caliper to it. A spacer for the stabs would be cool. One like Hiney includes for his thin pcbs. Use of the original led daughter board would be nice.I don't have my 1.2og in hand yet (stuck in Korea apparently) but if it's 1.2mm then this replacement will also be 1.2mm. Spacers, I can have those done.
LED Daughterboard (semiupdate) - I talked to Ender and he said we can get a daughterboard made but he suggested instead of using what the original LEDs to use SMD LEDs. Both replacement daughterboard and original daughterboard should work with the PCB. Any thoughts on this?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 May 2020, 12:16:18
I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.
Post by: phat schlong on Thu, 07 May 2020, 00:16:52
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 07 May 2020, 08:45:24
Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?The problem I see is that the current daughter board is elevated. This allows the rubber surround on it to meet the top case and minimize light bleed. If the leds were right on the pcb, a solution would have to be created to fill that space between pcb and case.
I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 07 May 2020, 09:13:50
This was what I was thinking.Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?The problem I see is that the current daughter board is elevated. This allows the rubber surround on it to meet the top case and minimize light bleed. If the leds were right on the pcb, a solution would have to be created to fill that space between pcb and case.
I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.
I won't be able to make comments since 1) I've never built a 1.2og 2) mine is still stuck in Korea
Expect updates when:
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
Post by: BlueeQ on Thu, 07 May 2020, 19:31:28
Post by: roznalos on Fri, 08 May 2020, 00:10:48
Post by: astro on Fri, 08 May 2020, 09:33:47
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 08 May 2020, 13:00:45
we released the pcb and plate file today, hope it can help you to make the board better :)
Thank you so much for releasing the files!
Now, someone run a PC plate GB please :)
Post by: keyberzerker on Fri, 08 May 2020, 14:09:58
we released the pcb and plate file today, hope it can help you to make the board better :)
Thank you so much for releasing the files!
Now, someone run a PC plate GB please :)
+1
PC half plate even better!
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Fri, 08 May 2020, 17:45:11
we released the pcb and plate file today, hope it can help you to make the board better :)Thank you so much, this makes our lives way way easier.
Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 08 May 2020, 19:36:16
Post by: mta on Sat, 09 May 2020, 00:11:25
Post by: Tyson on Sat, 09 May 2020, 00:21:21
We need POM and PBT plates... stat
I loved my POM plate on my OSA, I would definitely love on for this board, along with some foam for inbetween the plate and PCB!
Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 09 May 2020, 00:56:51
Get outa here w your foamWe need POM and PBT plates... stat
I loved my POM plate on my OSA, I would definitely love on for this board, along with some foam for inbetween the plate and PCB!
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Post by: Tyson on Sat, 09 May 2020, 01:07:21
Get outa here w your foamWe need POM and PBT plates... stat
I loved my POM plate on my OSA, I would definitely love on for this board, along with some foam for inbetween the plate and PCB!
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Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sat, 09 May 2020, 10:27:31
I will be adding ISO support since from the looks of it, the original plate supports it (sorry ISO haters)
I will also be adding support for LEDs on the following keys: esc, caps lock, and scroll lock
The light bar daughterboard will feature SMD LEDs for ease of assembly
Spacers for the PCB (since it will be 1.2mm like the original) to assist with stabs
No split backspace, but split shift is sort of up in the air (on the fence about this one)
Post by: chowbabyloving on Sat, 09 May 2020, 18:43:44
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sat, 09 May 2020, 19:54:54
Will this support the tsangan layout 1.2og or is it just wkl?Tsangan layout for WK, unless there's a lot of people that want the weird 6.25 layout for WK, I won't be adding it
Post by: blacksimon on Sun, 10 May 2020, 10:55:34
you are a hero
Post by: matrixzj on Sun, 10 May 2020, 11:35:53
Post by: juaninamilli on Sun, 10 May 2020, 17:04:44
QMK compatible PCB is available from their lab. Just FYI.Too difficult to obtain for westerners. Even persistent ones.
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 10 May 2020, 17:07:49
QMK compatible PCB is available from their lab. Just FYI.Too difficult to obtain for westerners. Even persistent ones.
As it is, even Matrix 1.2OGs seemed hard to get :/
It'd be nice to see more international GBs from Matrix Lab.
Post by: johnny__whitewalker on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:00:03
Post by: elmo on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:41:46
Post by: evorus5 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 22:52:34
This was what I was thinking.Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?The problem I see is that the current daughter board is elevated. This allows the rubber surround on it to meet the top case and minimize light bleed. If the leds were right on the pcb, a solution would have to be created to fill that space between pcb and case.
I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.
I won't be able to make comments since 1) I've never built a 1.2og 2) mine is still stuck in Korea
Expect updates when:
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
Can you pm me on discord evorus#5336
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 17 May 2020, 18:24:54
The discord name is incorrect (or that's what discord says).This was what I was thinking.Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?The problem I see is that the current daughter board is elevated. This allows the rubber surround on it to meet the top case and minimize light bleed. If the leds were right on the pcb, a solution would have to be created to fill that space between pcb and case.
I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.
I won't be able to make comments since 1) I've never built a 1.2og 2) mine is still stuck in Korea
Expect updates when:
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
Can you pm me on discord evorus#5336
Feel free to DM me here as well or Hoodrow Thrillson#6850
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My 1.2og is currently stateside. USPS says Monday, I'm gonna guess it's gonna arrive Friday.
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:14:56
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
1.2og arrived today and is in my hand.
Parts that ender needs will be shipped sometime this week, he should receive it sometime this week (if USPS is fast) or next week.
For the daughter board, I plan on sourcing all the materials including: screws, the stand off thing you solder into the PCB, foam, and the acrylic/POM material thing.
I was wondering if it would be easier to move to a screw in system for the daughter board rather than soldering the stand off thing, let me know your thoughts.
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 20 May 2020, 16:00:03
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
1.2og arrived today and is in my hand.
Parts that ender needs will be shipped sometime this week, he should receive it sometime this week (if USPS is fast) or next week.
For the daughter board, I plan on sourcing all the materials including: screws, the stand off thing you solder into the PCB, foam, and the acrylic/POM material thing.
I was wondering if it would be easier to move to a screw in system for the daughter board rather than soldering the stand off thing, let me know your thoughts.
pics of 1.2og pls
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Wed, 20 May 2020, 16:53:32
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
1.2og arrived today and is in my hand.
Parts that ender needs will be shipped sometime this week, he should receive it sometime this week (if USPS is fast) or next week.
For the daughter board, I plan on sourcing all the materials including: screws, the stand off thing you solder into the PCB, foam, and the acrylic/POM material thing.
I was wondering if it would be easier to move to a screw in system for the daughter board rather than soldering the stand off thing, let me know your thoughts.
pics of 1.2og pls
(https://i.imgur.com/4DHKPw9.png)
You ask, you shall receive.
Sorry for the **** photo, it's raining (and has been since Tuesday with it continuing till the weekend).
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 20 May 2020, 21:58:26
Post by: phat schlong on Thu, 21 May 2020, 02:29:28
Post by: chowbabyloving on Thu, 21 May 2020, 03:34:26
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
1.2og arrived today and is in my hand.
Parts that ender needs will be shipped sometime this week, he should receive it sometime this week (if USPS is fast) or next week.
For the daughter board, I plan on sourcing all the materials including: screws, the stand off thing you solder into the PCB, foam, and the acrylic/POM material thing.
I was wondering if it would be easier to move to a screw in system for the daughter board rather than soldering the stand off thing, let me know your thoughts.
pics of 1.2og plsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/4DHKPw9.png)
You ask, you shall receive.
Sorry for the **** photo, it's raining (and has been since Tuesday with it continuing till the weekend).
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement for the white dampening sheet that the 1.2og comes with? I got mine aftermarket and it didn't have it.
Post by: Mtalbert on Thu, 21 May 2020, 09:05:04
PMed you1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB
1.2og arrived today and is in my hand.
Parts that ender needs will be shipped sometime this week, he should receive it sometime this week (if USPS is fast) or next week.
For the daughter board, I plan on sourcing all the materials including: screws, the stand off thing you solder into the PCB, foam, and the acrylic/POM material thing.
I was wondering if it would be easier to move to a screw in system for the daughter board rather than soldering the stand off thing, let me know your thoughts.
pics of 1.2og plsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/4DHKPw9.png)
You ask, you shall receive.
Sorry for the **** photo, it's raining (and has been since Tuesday with it continuing till the weekend).
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement for the white dampening sheet that the 1.2og comes with? I got mine aftermarket and it didn't have it.
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 21 May 2020, 09:38:07
Screw-in system would be nice actually, but I also didn't mind soldering the standoffs.
I like the SMT standoffs. Kind of unique and was fun to figure out how to get it to attach. Digi-Key offers them I know, but I’m sure you could dig them up cheaper in bulk.I'll need to do some testing to see if the screws hit the dampening plastic, but the more I think about it, the more likely I feel about keeping the standoffs. Although going screw in would make things a tiny bit easier, I don't really want to take away from the experience.
PCB + daughter board is getting mailed out today.
Also I've gotten a vendor on board to help run the GB.
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 21 May 2020, 10:02:34
Post by: modeseven on Mon, 01 June 2020, 00:45:45
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 01 June 2020, 02:03:32
Will the pcb use USB type-c or stick with Mini USB? That would be a nice change. Not sure if clearance would be an issue. Don’t have my board with me atm.Will stay mini B for the time being
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 01 June 2020, 02:11:53
Bottom row cannot be made to fit 6.25U since spacing is different and it'll fit weirdly/may not fit at all.
Working on light bar daughterboard + sourcing all the needed screws, standoffs, etc.
Vendors found for all regions
Post by: chowbabyloving on Mon, 01 June 2020, 02:51:11
Update:
Bottom row cannot be made to fit 6.25U since spacing is different and it'll fit weirdly/may not fit at all.
Working on light bar daughterboard + sourcing all the needed screws, standoffs, etc.
Vendors found for all regions
Who will the NA vendor be?
Post by: dumpling420 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:08:48
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 03 June 2020, 04:08:26
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Wed, 03 June 2020, 07:31:51
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Wed, 03 June 2020, 09:18:50
Please consider split Rshift!Alternative layouts are off the table since the spacing is different compared to "normal" spacing. I will try to get Ender to entertain the idea again.
Would it be possible to flip the Mini USB port, with it being upside down and all the way on the right side of the board I tend to have to force my cables to stay upside down, causing extra strain on the port when the cable tries to flip.This is something we can entertain.
Will be released soon!Update:
Bottom row cannot be made to fit 6.25U since spacing is different and it'll fit weirdly/may not fit at all.
Working on light bar daughterboard + sourcing all the needed screws, standoffs, etc.
Vendors found for all regions
Who will the NA vendor be?
Matrix team is fully booked for weight development, it's nice to see they can outsource pcb production!I'm just some dude who wants a 1.2og PCB
Post by: kaisn on Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:59:07
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 08 June 2020, 13:44:40
Post by: juaninamilli on Mon, 08 June 2020, 20:23:00
Post by: evorus5 on Sun, 14 June 2020, 16:30:59
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 14 June 2020, 17:10:50
are these proto pcbs that you ordered? or ready to ship to us :OProtos.
Will post pics once I get one of them.
Post by: Nevermore012 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 10:09:18
Will the pcb use USB type-c or stick with Mini USB? That would be a nice change. Not sure if clearance would be an issue. Don’t have my board with me atm.Will stay mini B for the time being
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that only thing that I miss, wish there was type C, but it's alright, will join for PCB and plate ( if you can prefer POM or Carbon). lol :p
Post by: brianjking on Wed, 17 June 2020, 14:02:53
Post by: evorus5 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 14:11:17
are these proto pcbs that you ordered? or ready to ship to us :OProtos.
Will post pics once I get one of them.
What the eta on the proto?
Mine is slowly dying lol
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 18 June 2020, 09:10:24
Post by: delet_d on Thu, 18 June 2020, 20:50:37
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 18 June 2020, 22:14:30
Sorry :(Will the pcb use USB type-c or stick with Mini USB? That would be a nice change. Not sure if clearance would be an issue. Don’t have my board with me atm.Will stay mini B for the time being
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that only thing that I miss, wish there was type C, but it's alright, will join for PCB and plate ( if you can prefer POM or Carbon). lol :pShould arrive soon.are these proto pcbs that you ordered? or ready to ship to us :OProtos.
Will post pics once I get one of them.
What the eta on the proto?
Mine is slowly dying lolAny plans for an FR4 1/2 plate?FR4 full and half
PC full and half
these are the plan but not concrete.Split R shift would be nice for sure. However, any hopes for split HHKB style backspace support?Matrix 1.2og pcb supported layouts so nothing special but ISO support was added.Does anyone know how the lightbar on the original 1.2 pcb was made? Also an array of smd rgb leds?Daughterboard with array of SMD leds.
Our version will be using more SMD leds, but are smaller. Same effect will be achieved. The combo will include all the necessary hardware (standoffs, jst conenctor, screws, that small gasket/protector against light bleed thingy, etc.)
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 18 June 2020, 22:15:43
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 18 June 2020, 22:18:00
Good evening, during this time of being stuck in the house and with my Polaris no where to be seen, I made an impulse purchase of a beautiful olive Matrix 1.2og. I learned that Matrix does not make replacement PCBs and although I am getting a brand new PCB with it, I fear the day where I find out my PCB is dead.
In order to combat this, I've decided to enlist the help of PCB guru Ender to create a PCB that can be a drop in replacement for the 1.2og. When my Matrix arrives, I will be shipping it directly to him so he can begin work on it.
TLDR: I'm getting replacement 1.2og PCBs made
Drop in for 1.2og
Designed by Ender
ESD protection
QMK compat and possibly VIA
Maybe FR4 plates if people want them?
Fill out IC form so you can give me feedback on what y'all want.
IC FORM HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeqp9zJnkOGf_VgqmuKIeFTiWa5hEWg6dfpolts2t4BUhc1Ew/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Post by: MontePythons on Fri, 26 June 2020, 13:40:51
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Post by: juaninamilli on Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:39:07
Post by: elvenblack on Thu, 09 July 2020, 08:39:04
Any thoughts on offering a silicon pad that fits between place/pcb, similar to the 2.0 Add?
hmm, that's interesting.
Post by: dumpling420 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 17:02:33
I am definitely in for one, but in the meantime, does anyone have a cheat sheet for the stock 1.2 pcb LED controls? I've figured most of it, (pause + tab) as well as changing speed and colors, but can't seem to get a static color. Any help is appreciated!
+1 would appreciate help with this as well
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Tue, 21 July 2020, 18:21:23
Any thoughts on offering a silicon pad that fits between place/pcb, similar to the 2.0 Add?Sorry, I don't want to have too many things going on at the same time.
We're already offering PCB, daughterboard (acrylic diffuser, rubber gasket thing around lights), more individual parts may increase lead time or cause delays.
Prototypes will be shipping to me in the next few days.
In the meanwhile, here is the LED daughterboard in action, they can be set very bright
https://imgur.com/R68v5jm
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Tue, 28 July 2020, 17:16:44
I tested it out of the box and was functioning properly, cross checked placement of everything with the original PCB I have and it matched up.
Pictures of PCB (final PCB tbd: I want it to be black, but green is classic)
Light bar comparison
(https://i.imgur.com/WZ8BQQD.jpg)
New light bar placed on top of proto PCB
(https://i.imgur.com/yqLDona.jpg)
Nude PCB front
(https://i.imgur.com/qCUuESQ.jpg)
Nude PCB back
(https://i.imgur.com/aRTE1rl.jpg)
Light bar in action
https://i.imgur.com/R68v5jm.mp4
There are several things left to do before we can start GB on this, once prototype PCB is built, things should fall into place quickly.
Additionally, I am looking for someone with an AbelX in the CONUS who is willing to test this PCB (I heard that this PCB fits the Abel), DM me here or on Discord Hoodrow Thrillson#6850.
Post by: evorus5 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 19:01:37
+ 1 on the black PCB. I know the green looks classic but i think black would look good.
Post by: modeseven on Sat, 01 August 2020, 04:34:10
Post by: kimchijody on Sat, 08 August 2020, 23:46:31
Post by: of_sam on Sat, 15 August 2020, 22:12:09
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 16 August 2020, 12:14:40
Talking with Upas to get this up and going, but he is a very busy guy.
Post by: jyojoh on Fri, 21 August 2020, 04:10:49
Edit: Figured out a bit more, pause+1 or 2 changes colors for the led pattern that has two "beams" moving around. For the pattern that has 4 colors of beams moving around, pause+1,2,3,4 control those colors. Light bar seems to react to tab+q, w, e, r, but not sure what these 4 key combinations do.
Edit 2: Pause+s controls speed. It cycles through speed options and then wraps back around.
Edit 3: Pause+c controls color for the patter than consists of the led pattern that moves from left to right. Who would have thought.
Edit 4: Pause+n controls "length" of the led pattern that moves from left to right.
Post by: modeseven on Thu, 17 September 2020, 18:27:47
Excited for this! Also, probably the wrong place to ask, but does anyone know all the default LED lighting controls?Just received and all I've figured out is that tab+pause is how to change the patterns.
Edit: Figured out a bit more, pause+1 or 2 changes colors for the led pattern that has two "beams" moving around. For the pattern that has 4 colors of beams moving around, pause+1,2,3,4 control those colors. Light bar seems to react to tab+q, w, e, r, but not sure what these 4 key combinations do.
Edit 2: Pause+s controls speed. It cycles through speed options and then wraps back around.
Edit 3: Pause+c controls color for the patter than consists of the led pattern that moves from left to right. Who would have thought.
Edit 4: Pause+n controls "length" of the led pattern that moves from left to right.
Holy crap, I learned something new today. Thank you for sharing this.
Post by: Ramen Champ on Wed, 23 September 2020, 11:08:39
Post by: Ramen Champ on Fri, 02 October 2020, 18:23:45
Post by: Click This on Tue, 27 October 2020, 15:11:02
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Tue, 27 October 2020, 18:26:58
Sorry it's taking so long, I won't give excuses as they aren't really necessary.
Post by: AgonizedFish on Wed, 28 October 2020, 03:19:43
Post by: aadk5 on Wed, 28 October 2020, 11:28:57
Right now, Ender and I need to put all our files together and send it to Upas. We have it scattered across 2 different group chats and we're both busy but this is just to let y'all know that we still intend to get this going.
Sorry it's taking so long, I won't give excuses as they aren't really necessary.
Excited to hear that at least this is still in the works and not scrapped. Thanks for the udpate
Post by: tommyhongg on Wed, 28 October 2020, 14:12:29
Post by: Click This on Thu, 29 October 2020, 04:22:36
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 10 November 2020, 18:33:17
hoodrow, you are our (actually my) only hope.
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Tue, 10 November 2020, 18:35:21
My matrix 1.2og pcb just died on me for no apparent reason. kaput, nothing, no power coming through.Well good thing for you, all the files have been sent over to Upas.
hoodrow, you are our (actually my) only hope.
Post by: aadk5 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:08:52
My matrix 1.2og pcb just died on me for no apparent reason. kaput, nothing, no power coming through.Well good thing for you, all the files have been sent over to Upas.
hoodrow, you are our (actually my) only hope.
Holy **** it's happening!
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 10 November 2020, 23:11:17
My matrix 1.2og pcb just died on me for no apparent reason. kaput, nothing, no power coming through.Well good thing for you, all the files have been sent over to Upas.
hoodrow, you are our (actually my) only hope.
well today has been an emotional rollercoaster!
Post by: sourmk on Wed, 11 November 2020, 07:52:03
Post by: kiyoboard on Wed, 11 November 2020, 08:07:02
Post by: tommyhongg on Wed, 11 November 2020, 16:19:38
My matrix 1.2og pcb just died on me for no apparent reason. kaput, nothing, no power coming through.
hoodrow, you are our (actually my) only hope.
F
Post by: ttom on Thu, 12 November 2020, 12:11:05
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 12 November 2020, 12:31:52
2.0 next plsI did consider 2.0add but that one is a tough one to get done.
I did hear that H87 technically fits but will need some modification.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 12 November 2020, 12:45:50
I did hear that H87 technically fits but will need some modification.
I measured the spacing between left arrow and right control and it's shorter on 2.0 than H88. I don't have H87 but I would assume the spacing is the same on H88 and H87. All Matrix TKLs have the same slightly shorter spacing
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 12 November 2020, 13:28:20
2.0add or 2.0. I heard that the spacing is only shorter on certain boards (ie: 1.2og)I did hear that H87 technically fits but will need some modification.
I measured the spacing between left arrow and right control and it's shorter on 2.0 than H88. I don't have H87 but I would assume the spacing is the same on H88 and H87. All Matrix TKLs have the same slightly shorter spacing
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 12 November 2020, 13:38:20
2.0add or 2.0. I heard that the spacing is only shorter on certain boards (ie: 1.2og)I did hear that H87 technically fits but will need some modification.
I measured the spacing between left arrow and right control and it's shorter on 2.0 than H88. I don't have H87 but I would assume the spacing is the same on H88 and H87. All Matrix TKLs have the same slightly shorter spacing
ah yeah you are totally right. I actually measured on 1st gen Abel and it is shorter. I just placed 2.0add plate over Jane v2 CE and the spacing is identical. 1.2 OG spacing is the same as 2.0add.
Post by: leftykeys on Sat, 14 November 2020, 19:17:28
Post by: tommyhongg on Thu, 19 November 2020, 01:27:42
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 02 December 2020, 23:19:01
I think this pcb has some real issues man, it needs to go see a counsellor or something.
Can't wait for the replacement!
Post by: aadk5 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 23:30:51
Welp - I got my original 1.2og pcb repaired (it just died one day for no apparent reason). Worked fine again for half a day when I got it back from being repaired, then the same thing happened - just died.
I think this pcb has some real issues man, it needs to go see a counsellor or something.
Can't wait for the replacement!
Man, I feel bad just reading this lol. I have a spare desoldered PCB and brand new light bar that's yours if you just pay shipping if you needed it
Post by: tommyhongg on Thu, 03 December 2020, 11:45:56
Welp - I got my original 1.2og pcb repaired (it just died one day for no apparent reason). Worked fine again for half a day when I got it back from being repaired, then the same thing happened - just died.
I think this pcb has some real issues man, it needs to go see a counsellor or something.
Can't wait for the replacement!
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:40:11
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 03 December 2020, 18:30:05
Post by: kaisn on Fri, 04 December 2020, 04:04:56
For anyone wondering if this is dead, no it's not dead.
My PCB is dead. Should I wait for this or keep bothering Albertzzz on the matrix discord to sell me a replacement PCB?
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Fri, 04 December 2020, 08:56:05
Upas told me that he'll have time to dive into this once his keyboard GBs are complete (so in a week or so).For anyone wondering if this is dead, no it's not dead.
My PCB is dead. Should I wait for this or keep bothering Albertzzz on the matrix discord to sell me a replacement PCB?
I mean, honestly, if I were in your position, it would depend on how often you use your 1.2og. I haven't touched mine since I got my 2.0add. If you're really itching to get yours rebuilt, then I would keep bothering poor Albert.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 04 December 2020, 15:17:17
Love seeing helpful people like this. So wholesome and nice.Welp - I got my original 1.2og pcb repaired (it just died one day for no apparent reason). Worked fine again for half a day when I got it back from being repaired, then the same thing happened - just died.
I think this pcb has some real issues man, it needs to go see a counsellor or something.
Can't wait for the replacement!
Man, I feel bad just reading this lol. I have a spare desoldered PCB and brand new light bar that's yours if you just pay shipping if you needed it
Post by: kaisn on Wed, 09 December 2020, 12:27:08
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Wed, 09 December 2020, 16:05:22
the plates are still a thing? FR4/PC, Half/fullplate?I'll make sure that it's a thing.
I really want to try PC half/full on this board, it would probably sound pretty damn good.
Post by: kaisn on Wed, 09 December 2020, 17:03:40
the plates are still a thing? FR4/PC, Half/fullplate?I'll make sure that it's a thing.
I really want to try PC half/full on this board, it would probably sound pretty damn good.
Yes, please and I agree I think so too
Post by: Chippy on Wed, 30 December 2020, 05:43:29
- For alphas everything is fine
- For tkl cluster (arrows, print screen/delete etc) spacing is off
- I had to cut and trim the pegs in switches to make them fit, but it works
- Mini-USB port sits further back on 1.2og pcb compared to the abelx pcb, which extends the mini-usb port out about 1cm. Usb ports align, however, which means if you have a small cable it works fine.
[attach=1]
I would not recommend doing this, but if you are in a pinch and want to use your abelx, a 1.2og pcb will work...sort of
Hope this helps, and gives some closure to the issue.
[attach=2]
edit: I figured it was obvious, but without some janky hand wiring the leds will not work...as there are none on the board.
Post by: DoctorNunu on Wed, 06 January 2021, 10:28:43
the plates are still a thing? FR4/PC, Half/fullplate?I'll make sure that it's a thing.
I really want to try PC half/full on this board, it would probably sound pretty damn good.
Got any status update on the project? Really excited to rebuild my 1.2 :thumb:
Btw, if you need files for the half-plates just let me know. I could only find the files for full plate, so I had to make it from that.
Post by: kaisn on Mon, 11 January 2021, 09:52:58
Post by: tommyhongg on Mon, 11 January 2021, 10:39:05
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/z9ZgyI9.png)
Oh nvm, found it :D
Post by: nxxinf on Mon, 11 January 2021, 10:40:15
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 11 January 2021, 13:23:18
Can this be used for Abel-X?YMMV
There were some questions posed about the 1.2og pcb working in AbelX. I am currently using a 1.2og yellow pcb in my abelx, albeit there are some caveats.
- For alphas everything is fine
- For tkl cluster (arrows, print screen/delete etc) spacing is off
- I had to cut and trim the pegs in switches to make them fit, but it works
- Mini-USB port sits further back on 1.2og pcb compared to the abelx pcb, which extends the mini-usb port out about 1cm. Usb ports align, however, which means if you have a small cable it works fine.
I would not recommend doing this, but if you are in a pinch and want to use your abelx, a 1.2og pcb will work...sort of
Hope this helps, and gives some closure to the issue.
edit: I figured it was obvious, but without some janky hand wiring the leds will not work...as there are none on the board.
Post by: jubei on Tue, 12 January 2021, 02:49:24
Post by: sourmk on Wed, 10 March 2021, 22:42:28
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 11 March 2021, 08:21:01
Any chance you might have some news for us soon? Been terribly excited for this to get goingProtos didn't go into production till after CNY (we hoped it'd be done before then), so Upas is await them currently.
I'm again, sorry to keep everyone waiting. :-[
Post by: sourmk on Thu, 11 March 2021, 12:07:00
Protos didn't go into production till after CNY (we hoped it'd be done before then), so Upas is await them currently.
I'm again, sorry to keep everyone waiting. :-[
Nothing to apologize for, appreciate the update!
Post by: modeseven on Wed, 24 March 2021, 21:42:12
Protos didn't go into production till after CNY (we hoped it'd be done before then), so Upas is await them currently.
I'm again, sorry to keep everyone waiting. :-[
Nothing to apologize for, appreciate the update!
So glad to hear things are moving along. My pcb just died today. You are now my only hope. Want to express my gratitude for this project.
Post by: kenpachibao on Thu, 20 May 2021, 09:00:02
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 20 May 2021, 14:42:53
Is this project still alive
Yes, prototype PCBs have arrived. Going through the testing process right now.
Post by: Sicowa on Sun, 23 May 2021, 17:18:42
recently was able to get a 1.2 so would be very excited to grab a few extras pcbs :thumb:
Post by: elmo on Fri, 11 June 2021, 05:42:29
The PR just got merged: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/11614
So if you don't want to wait any longer for basic QMK capabilities you can use the original PCB now as well (RGB works too btw).
The only downside of this is that you can't use VIA because of the MCU that was used on those boards (STM32 without EEPROM storage).
(I personally am still going to get one of the replacements for VIA support.)
nvm...
latest chibios update in QMK broke the port completely. Don't use it for now :-X
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Tue, 29 June 2021, 10:33:03
Going to get a proto plate cut, as quickly as we can. Then into GB we go.
Post by: jewleeuhn on Tue, 29 June 2021, 14:28:38
Post by: aegnogg on Sun, 04 July 2021, 19:28:45
I just acquired a 1.2OG and was surprised to learn the pcb is not QMK compatible..
Also would really be interested in the other plate options (not sure if there's any alternatives around atm)
Would appreciate some pics / typing tests of the protos if you have the chance! :)
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 05 July 2021, 19:57:32
Really glad to have found this project!
I just acquired a 1.2OG and was surprised to learn the pcb is not QMK compatible..
Also would really be interested in the other plate options (not sure if there's any alternatives around atm)
Would appreciate some pics / typing tests of the protos if you have the chance! :)
Sound test => it'll sound like a 1.2og, there's plenty of them floating around.
PCB pictures => we got the protos made in green, I can take a picture of the one that's in my board but it's literally just a green PCB.
Plates => Upas and I are opting to run without offering plates, mostly because 1) plate files are posted on page 2 2) strictly due to time constraints, this project has sort of dragged along for a while now and I think it's time to just get this going. I do wish we could have gotten around to doing plates but knowing how busy we (Upas and I) are going to be these next upcoming months, easier to just get them out the door this way.
Post by: aegnogg on Tue, 06 July 2021, 00:31:57
Really glad to have found this project!
I just acquired a 1.2OG and was surprised to learn the pcb is not QMK compatible..
Also would really be interested in the other plate options (not sure if there's any alternatives around atm)
Would appreciate some pics / typing tests of the protos if you have the chance! :)
Sound test => it'll sound like a 1.2og, there's plenty of them floating around.
PCB pictures => we got the protos made in green, I can take a picture of the one that's in my board but it's literally just a green PCB.
Plates => Upas and I are opting to run without offering plates, mostly because 1) plate files are posted on page 2 2) strictly due to time constraints, this project has sort of dragged along for a while now and I think it's time to just get this going. I do wish we could have gotten around to doing plates but knowing how busy we (Upas and I) are going to be these next upcoming months, easier to just get them out the door this way.
Makes sense, I'd be happy to join a PCB GB regardless. :thumb:
Not sure if you're still taking requests on colors, but red would be a great color to have as well.
I've never seen a sound test for a non-aluminum plate 1.2OG, so I guess that would take some deeper investigation / experimentation.
I'd really be interested in the sound and feel of a PC plate on this board.. I'll have to look into something like SendCutSend.
Post by: aegnogg on Tue, 13 July 2021, 11:45:31
While waiting for these to become avail XYZ and I ported the original Matrix 1.2OG PCB to QMK.
The PR just got merged: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/11614
So if you don't want to wait any longer for basic QMK capabilities you can use the original PCB now as well (RGB works too btw).
The only downside of this is that you can't use VIA because of the MCU that was used on those boards (STM32 without EEPROM storage).
(I personally am still going to get one of the replacements for VIA support.)
nvm...
latest chibios update in QMK broke the port completely. Don't use it for now :-X
I'm trying to flash QMK on rev1 PCB for the moment until I get my hands on one of these PCBs, is this still broken?
Perhaps it'd be possible to use the port if I compile from the last commit that still worked with your PR?
Not sure of the risks of flashing a faulty firmware, if it would brick the PCB or anything like that.
Post by: keywi on Sun, 23 October 2022, 05:40:55