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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: upas on Wed, 06 August 2025, 17:31:32

Title: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: upas on Wed, 06 August 2025, 17:31:32
[IC] PBS WoB + Accents

This is a simple Interest Check for PBS WoB + Accents keycaps.

(https://i.imgur.com/7qYKKq8.png)

Colors

GMK CR - Base Color
GMK WS1 - Alpha Legends Colors
GMK TU2 - Accent Color 1
GMK MG1 - Accent Color 2
GMK CV - Accent Color 3
GMK DY - Accent Color 4


Vendors

United States: CannonKeys (https://cannonkeys.com/)
Others: TBD

*If you are interested in being a vendor, please contact anaolivetree on discord


Pricing


Base Kit - $70 [USD]
40's kit - $65 [USD]
Accents Kit - $15 [USD]
Mac Kit - $15 [USD]

Tentative pending IC feedback


Kits

Base Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/OGK6rQe.png)

40s Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/SDQKWBs.png)

CMYW Accents Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/whj9anV.png)

Mac Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/zG2kYzO.png)



Fill the IC Form here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScBmOT_Gss3c5D0dQYho0bVFp1P-Z2YDzHx9DqL74QNp-Jf3Q/viewform?usp=preview)



Keycap Samples

(https://i.imgur.com/j2oqdnA.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Wfv8IB3.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xjHlIhN.jpeg)

Photos taken under natural light and without editing


Keyboard Renders

(https://i.imgur.com/fwjfrF1.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qRRLiQK.jpeg)


A special thanks to:

Chippy and Ana for the feedback
Liv for the renders


Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: dinobx on Wed, 06 August 2025, 19:25:22
This looks nice! Will this be an instock product? I'm guessing the IC responses will decide that but instock would be amazing for this
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: Hugo_mungus on Wed, 06 August 2025, 19:45:26
I am a fan of PBS, but is that the best black they can do? Looks more like PBS White on Very Dark Navy
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 06 August 2025, 19:47:50
CR in the comparison pic is a GMK CYL sample cap and thus ABS?
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: PhoenixUNI on Wed, 06 August 2025, 20:13:08
My kingdom for PBS kits to offer HUNT homing keys either as part of base kits too, or as a standalone kit. Having to buy Base + 40s just for 4 keys stinks.
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: Damage on Wed, 06 August 2025, 22:39:00
Happy to see this happening! Would like to see a second B for Alice/split boards. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: DirtyGingy on Thu, 07 August 2025, 00:07:39
Dammit, I don't need more caps. Someone post a pepehands for me.
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: upas on Thu, 07 August 2025, 08:44:10
Quote from: PhoenixUNI on Wed, 06 August 2025, 20:13:08
My kingdom for PBS kits to offer HUNT homing keys either as part of base kits too, or as a standalone kit. Having to buy Base + 40s just for 4 keys stinks.

We'll definitely take this into consideration! Usually there is a pretty big intersection between 40s/ortho and alternate layouts (Colemak, Dvorak, etc.) - so we usually put the alternate homing there.
We have to be careful on this one since all the keys are reverse dyesub, adding 4 homing keys requires us to add a non-homing F and J as well - so we'd have to add 6 more keys to the base, and since it's reverse dyesub, that'll add more cost than on a normal dyesub kit.

I wonder if some sort of middle ground option like 4 blanks (2 homing, 2 non-homing) could also work?

Quote from: dinobx on Wed, 06 August 2025, 19:25:22
This looks nice! Will this be an instock product? I'm guessing the IC responses will decide that but instock would be amazing for this

This will likely be a group buy. Since the keyset is entirely reverse dyesub, we think offering it at a lower GB price first is the way to go.

Quote from: Hugo_mungus on Wed, 06 August 2025, 19:45:26
I am a fan of PBS, but is that the best black they can do? Looks more like PBS White on Very Dark Navy

That's why we included the sample cap. I think it's pretty black, but it's not going to match a doubleshot ABS black cap.

Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 06 August 2025, 19:47:50
CR in the comparison pic is a GMK CYL sample cap and thus ABS?

Yep, this is correct.

Quote from: Damage on Wed, 06 August 2025, 22:39:00
Happy to see this happening! Would like to see a second B for Alice/split boards. Thanks!

This will definitely make it into the base kit - just an oversight on the IC! It has the split bars for Alice already!
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 07 August 2025, 09:14:06
Thought looked pretty good for pbs black. Thanks for confirming.
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 07 August 2025, 20:06:33
Quote from: upas on Thu, 07 August 2025, 08:44:10
Quote from: PhoenixUNI on Wed, 06 August 2025, 20:13:08
My kingdom for PBS kits to offer HUNT homing keys either as part of base kits too, (4) or as a standalone kit. Having to buy Base + 40s just for 4 keys stinks.

(1) We'll definitely take this into consideration! Usually there is a pretty big intersection between 40s/ortho and alternate layouts (Colemak, Dvorak, etc.) - so we usually put the alternate homing there.

(2) We have to be careful on this one since all the keys are reverse dyesub, adding 4 homing keys requires us to add a non-homing F and J as well - so we'd have to add 6 more keys to the base, and since it's reverse dyesub, that'll add more cost than on a normal dyesub kit.

(3) I wonder if some sort of middle ground option like 4 blanks (2 homing, 2 non-homing) could also work?


(1) Dvorak was patented in 1936 and remains one of the most popular alt layouts. Since alt layout usage pre-dates the birth of the Ergo/Ortho/40s community and sales of TKL Base kits are still at least on par with those of 40s/Ortho Base kits, it makes sense for Full Base to have alt layout support.

(2) Yes, non-homing F & J are critical for uniform-profile sets. (Sculpted-profile Colevrak+, however, doesn't need them because none of its supported layouts have F or J on the home row.)

(3) 4-key support is infinitely better than no support at all. But I recommend F & J legends on the non-homing keys because a blank home key will always replace one of those two letters.

(4) You might be able to increase interest in a stand-alone homing kit by adding super-homing coverage for all layouts including QWERTY:
More

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Wdkp4GC/Uniform-profile-Homing-kit-250807.png)
Title: Re: [IC] PBS WoB
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 08 August 2025, 01:55:20
Why are the H U N T home keys scooped rather than barred? Asking because the kit pictures make barred F & J come across as the favorite because they sit in the main section with alphas. Scooped are off to the side, so they look like the less-popular alternative.