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Title: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: cosmonauti on Wed, 17 October 2012, 22:33:22
Back up one the official site: http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfiretk/

BOOM can't wait until a retailer stocks them. Not even in the CM store atm.


Anyone else eagerly anticipating this?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Delirious on Wed, 17 October 2012, 22:43:20
Beside from the bad placement of the Print/Scroll/Pause keys for the sake of equally bad branding, I am in love, especially the color plating depending on switch. Seeing that it's from CM, I have high hope that the price will be competitive as well.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: wetto on Wed, 17 October 2012, 22:44:27
If it's Costar-made and costs around US$ 90 as the Quickfire Pro does, I think I'll have quite a strong recommendation for my gamer friends...

Something that surprised me, is that it seems there won't be Cherry MX Black on this model.


And what's even more strange, is that they show a picture with the following description:

N-Key Rollover over USB
N-Key Roll Over in USB mode means even the wildest key combos are registered perfectly.

And the picture that's over it is:
(http://www.cmstorm.com/files/TK_6.jpg)

If it's NKRO, why in the nine bloody hells is the picture showing a 6KRO example?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 17 October 2012, 22:50:30
Like the Plum89, cool.

Although do I see a 1.5x Control, 1x Win, and 1.25 Alt?  Good luck finding a keyset for that!
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 17 October 2012, 23:34:22
Its not costar but carter said not ione either.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: wetto on Wed, 17 October 2012, 23:39:25
Its not costar but carter said not ione either.

Bloody hell if it's PLU. That'd be weird, lol.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 17 October 2012, 23:54:55
If I weren't in complete love with this ducky and based solely off of my experience with the QFR, I'd buy the crap out of this.  I'd make my roommate and his girlfriend buy one, too.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 17 October 2012, 23:58:08
Its not costar but carter said not ione either.
Doesn't irocks also make keyboards? I think I heard Lysol or someone saying something to that effect earlier.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 18 October 2012, 00:00:58
That's what the assumption has been since Carter said who wasn't making it.

I'm sure one of us will get one and disassemble to see who made it.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Larken on Thu, 18 October 2012, 00:06:21
nice. The layout is exactly what I want. too bad it isn't produced by Costar, if it was I'd stop making up reasons why I don't want a new board and just get one.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: wetto on Thu, 18 October 2012, 00:13:37
The thing is, if it at least really were a Costar keyboard, we wouldn't have to worry about things such as "failure rate" or the quality of the keyboard itself before it was even released, all we would be discussing about would be:

"When is it released, how much will it cost and how many can a single customer buy".

Because damn, my dream of finding a US$ 80 high quality mechanical keyboard with full backlight seems quite faraway, eh?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: jeroplane on Thu, 18 October 2012, 00:15:10
Damn, that is a really nice board. The weird bottom row kinda sucks though and is possibly a dealbreaker for anyone who intends on replacing the keycaps. And I agree that it would've been nice to include separate Prt Sc, etc. keys in place of the branding and made the lock LEDs a little more nondescript.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: eyejay on Thu, 18 October 2012, 00:30:52
I'm really excited about this. My first mechanical keyboard (that I am typing on right now) is a CM Quick Fire Pro that I bought before learning about the problems with it. It is working almost perfect still, but a full-backlit keyboard, with a numpad but the size of a TKL? Couldn't be better for me, since I can't live without a numpad on my work board but taking up less desk space is always better. I'm thinking this will be my first keyboard with blues, and I'll keep my QFR Pro with browns around and see what I like best (with my girlfriend getting the extra one probably - she is already jealous of the QFR Pro and I've only had it a couple weeks).

Anyone know anything as far as release dates are concerned? Or am I just missing it on the site?

Oh, and first post on GH!
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: vun on Thu, 18 October 2012, 04:20:34
The part that goes "you know that a mechanical keyboard is the difference between winning or losing"? I'm gonna guess they hired people from Razer to write the blurb.
Either way, as long as they still offer the Quickfire Rapid I'll get that instead. Planning on getting one with reds sometime and giving it some new keycaps.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 18 October 2012, 07:54:57
The six pack is also one row lower than you'd expect because of where print screen and such are... I think that's even worse.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Binge on Thu, 18 October 2012, 10:39:47
The part that goes "you know that a mechanical keyboard is the difference between winning or losing"? I'm gonna guess they hired people from Razer to write the blurb.
Either way, as long as they still offer the Quickfire Rapid I'll get that instead. Planning on getting one with reds sometime and giving it some new keycaps.

Sounds a lot like the survey from Steelseries.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 18 October 2012, 12:00:16
haha, yeah.

They have a very specific goal: convince you that whatever they are selling will make you play better and win.  Of course they know it doesn't but it is a technique as old as marketing itself.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Carter on Thu, 18 October 2012, 14:01:38
Gotta play the game sometimes boys....

Also (Not iRocks)
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Thu, 18 October 2012, 14:06:14
So, no MX Black, then?

Also, I still want to know what makes it so light. Is there a plate? If so, is it made of metal?

Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: wetto on Thu, 18 October 2012, 14:08:31
Gotta play the game sometimes boys....

Also (Not iRocks)

And you also said yourself that we'd never see an iOne board ever again by CM... Still Costar or what? PLU? You guys did your own factory?

Also, want an easy way to prove its durability to us?


Do that again, we loved that video :P
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: cosmonauti on Thu, 18 October 2012, 18:10:14
Carter can we have a ETA? Vague ETA? Anything?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: w4rtortle on Thu, 18 October 2012, 18:23:18
I would be more inclined to buy one if they had consistent modifier keys. If they have that it would be a no brainer for me. Good chance i'll still pick one up.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Human on Fri, 19 October 2012, 16:41:41
Gotta play the game sometimes boys....

Also (Not iRocks)
Let me guess, the same OEM as Corsair's K60/90 and also Logitech's G710+, right?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: wetto on Fri, 19 October 2012, 19:24:21
Gotta play the game sometimes boys....

Also (Not iRocks)
Let me guess, the same OEM as Corsair's K60/90 and also Logitech's G710+, right?

According to Carter:

Not Costar
Not iOne
Not iRocks


Also, check this topic, it seems CM took the keyboard style after it:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29605.0

MAYBE, just maybe the OEM is the same as that keyboards layout creators, which is the same as Noppoo keyboards, which is PLU (or is it PLUM?). They've been doing keyboards with backlight just recently and the Noppoo Choc Mini's quality is quite good!
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 20 October 2012, 03:00:46
For being a direct knockoff of. A filco i actually pefered the plu87.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Human on Sat, 20 October 2012, 08:05:30
Gotta play the game sometimes boys....

Also (Not iRocks)
Let me guess, the same OEM as Corsair's K60/90 and also Logitech's G710+, right?

According to Carter:

Not Costar
Not iOne
Not iRocks


Also, check this topic, it seems CM took the keyboard style after it:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29605.0

MAYBE, just maybe the OEM is the same as that keyboards layout creators, which is the same as Noppoo keyboards, which is PLU (or is it PLUM?). They've been doing keyboards with backlight just recently and the Noppoo Choc Mini's quality is quite good!
I highly doubted that the PLUM board is related to CM TK in any way.

PLUM(also made noppoo and Neo Zelia) made board had some quite distinct characteristics which is different from other board makers. At the very least, they don't use the 1.5x,1x & 1.25x modifiers.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 20 October 2012, 08:21:30
I love the layout.  But who decided to make the steel plate of the brown switch board brown?  Lol....c'mon guys that's ugly.  Otherwise, it looks like an awesome board.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: cosmonauti on Sat, 20 October 2012, 12:51:21
carter said it's going to be white to match the LEDs
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: furosuto81 on Sun, 21 October 2012, 21:38:36
Good. Black keyboard with brown plate would be ugly as hell. Shame that White LED only comes with MX Browns though. I'm almost settled on not liking MX Brown switches. I'd probably get this if it had the option for black. But given the economics, I understand wanting to limit it to only 3 SKUs.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 21 October 2012, 21:56:59
For being a direct knockoff of. A filco i actually pefered the plu87.

Me too.

Of course, Newegg will actually HAVE this one.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: ih8 on Sun, 21 October 2012, 22:06:06
its construction looks way too eerily similar to the QF Pro, which in my opinion felt cheap and terrible

while it has been stated it isn't made by iOne I can't get passed that
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 21 October 2012, 22:25:10
No this looks too eerie to the PLU97.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Binge on Sun, 21 October 2012, 22:30:19
h8rs gonna h8?  The QFP build quality is really far from terrible.  It's inexpensive without lacking quality imo.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: ih8 on Sun, 21 October 2012, 23:01:55
h8rs gonna h8?  The QFP build quality is really far from terrible.  It's inexpensive without lacking quality imo.

if it was so great I can't understand why Carter would state they absolutely won't be going through iOne anymore

I had one for a couple days and hated myself until I returned it
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 21 October 2012, 23:26:46
iOne is capable of producing a decent board.  However in 10 boards you are not going to get 10 or even 8 decent boards.  Consistent results are an issue with iOne... QA is seriously lacking.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: kwang2009 on Thu, 08 November 2012, 08:24:39
I don't know how many hours minutes its been available for purchase, but it is.

http://www.cmstore-usa.com/quickfire-tk-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 08 November 2012, 09:00:25
I don't know how many hours minutes its been available for purchase, but it is.

http://www.cmstore-usa.com/quickfire-tk-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/

Goddammit!  I was so close to not buying another keyboard for a while.

Maybe a QFTK in Elvish...

Thanks for pointing this out!

Anyone know where they are built?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[edit]
Rats!  Brown is out of stock already. 7:04am Pacific.
[/edit]
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 08 November 2012, 11:18:40
very tempted but what is that bottom row?

Guessing from the photo: 1.5-1-1.25-spacebar-1.25-1-1-1.5

So on a normal layout, (1.25*7)+6.25 = 15.00 total on bottom row
so...
15.00-(1*3)-(1.25*2)-(1.5*2) = 6.5x spacebar??

Never seen one of those on the aftermarket.
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Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 08 November 2012, 11:25:54
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Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 08 November 2012, 12:07:08
Knew it! Made by plum. How much is it?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 08 November 2012, 12:22:35
How do you know it's made by plum?
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 08 November 2012, 12:33:22
Looked up qftk. It is quite similar to one of them forgot which model. Plum is a nice company. Nice boards for great prices.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 08 November 2012, 13:22:30
Well it's the same layout as the PLUM96 but it certainly has many differences.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: ChaoticKinesis on Thu, 08 November 2012, 14:16:44
Why did they have to make such an awkward bottom row? Keyboard would have been perfect otherwise. :(
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 08 November 2012, 14:21:40
Yeah, sometimes keyboard companies just don't get it...
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Grimey on Thu, 08 November 2012, 14:27:56
PLUM 96.  Same layout with normalized bottom row, just somewhat annoying to get here in the USofA.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 08 November 2012, 15:21:14
Imsto sells it.  It does look a bit flimsy in the photos, though.

Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 08 November 2012, 15:28:03
Flimsy is nice! It means it is more portible!
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Grimey on Thu, 08 November 2012, 15:31:14
Mine is plenty solid.  It is PCB mounted so it does lack the heft of my other boards, but is a very nice keyboard / layout with wireless build in.
Title: Re: Guess what's back!? QFTK!
Post by: Binge on Thu, 08 November 2012, 15:32:08
Plum does not look terribly flimsy to me.  I ordered two and so I'll know soon enough.