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Title: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 October 2012, 17:26:10

> ORDER FORM < (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGdUUHZkaEswaUpJMi1MVENTWWJWWHc6MQ)      11/24/12 deadline,   $35 shipped (round1 finished)




Final plate design

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/platerev3.png)



old plate
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_platerev1.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=platerev1.png)

What this is about

This is a metal plate that goes on top of the PCB of TKL sized keyboards to make the overall keyboard feel more solid. Since most TKL keyboards already have a plate, why would you need this one? Because it was designed so that you can take the switches apart without having to desolder the whole switch first. Stock plates do not have the little notches at the sides of of the switch to allow them to open up. Many mods (lubrication, stabilizing stickers, swapping springs, stems, or complete switches) require that you desolder every switch to pull them out, do the mod, then resolder all of them back. This is rather tedious and require desoldering/soldering equiment every time you want to change something. This plate allows you to skip that step. This plate also allows to you choose between Costar stabilizers or Cherry stabilizers. The idea was inspired by the custom Phantom project (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23572.0).

Material will be 1/16" aluminum that I'll try to anodize myself.




Compatibility

This is a ANSI layout with 1.25x size bottom-modifiers, in a tenkeyless form factor. Filco and CoolerMaster quickfire TKL are pretty popular keyboards, so I measured this plate to fit those. There are other cutout holes to fit other TKL keyboards as well, but I'm still in the process of confirming those keyboards. It will also be compatible with phantom PCB. This might work for full size Filco and Rosewills, but I'll have to confirm that later. Here are all the models I'm trying to make this compatible with:

Requirements

The initial first time installation will require you to desolder all the switches, change out the stock plate, install this new plate, then solder all the switches back to the PCB. Tutorial on how to do that HERE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_2GxeR4Es#t=10m33s) so you can do it yourself. This also means you must buy some soldering equipment to do the job. I'm also willing to install these plates for you before shipping them out, but you need to first contact me for that. Here are the bare minimum that you'll need:
Ordering
This is NOT and interest check. I originally wanted this plate for myself, so the order will go through regardless of how many orders there will be. This also means that I'm not going to wait around for the normal group buy order times.

deadline: Orders accepted through 11/24/12, payment deadline is through 12/01/12.
You can start paying now, up until the payment deadline. Anodizing and shipping will be done in the order of payment received, so the sooner you pay, the more priority you get.


plate cost: $35 for the 1st plate, $30 for additional plates. This is out-the-door costs, so it INCLUDES shipping. Nearly half the cost of this plate is from the 2 or 3 way shipping.




Other technical details:
The placement of the keys' position were based on mathmatically calculations based on key sizes. These are exact values, and I used a digital caliper to compare these values with an actual Filco PCB. The cut out holes are a tad more accurate than phantom's plate, but when actually making these plates, the tolerances of the machines will make the differences negligible. The hole placements for screws were physically measured with a digital caliper, so they should be accurate but not exact unless I have schematics to all the keyboards.

 
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 October 2012, 17:26:34
*reserved for updates and order list*

UPDATE 11/27/12 prototype plate

Prototype bare plate
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1827.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1827.jpg)


Plate overlay on top of a Filco just to verify all holes and cutout positioning. Haven't gotten the chance to solder switches and PCB on yet.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1828.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1828.jpg)


Here's a set of plate-mounted cherry stabilizer and costar stabilizers on the same plate, along with an empty stabilizer slot
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1824.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1824.jpg)


Plate with switches, cherry stabilizers, mounted on a CM quickfire PCB.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1872.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1872.jpg)


Everything inside a closed quickfire case.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1894.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1894.jpg)


Same plate inside a closed Filco case.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1898.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1898.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alaricljs on Sat, 27 October 2012, 17:53:02
FWIW, the plate design pictured is compatible with PCB mount Cherry stabs and plate mount Costar.  Plate mount Cherry requires a different shape hole (more is cut away).
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 27 October 2012, 17:58:50
Cool idea! Did you prototype this first?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 October 2012, 18:16:25
FWIW, the plate design pictured is compatible with PCB mount Cherry stabs and plate mount Costar.  Plate mount Cherry requires a different shape hole (more is cut away).

This was the problem I had when trying to design the hybrid costar/cherry stabilizer. I only had PCB mounted cherry stabilizers available to do the measurements. Do you have measurements for it or take pic of what it looks like? I found part number online, but no pics. I'm assuming the extra area I'll have to cut out on the plate are the sides of the cherry mount holes?


Cool idea! Did you prototype this first?
Not yet, finalizing the design before I prototype.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 27 October 2012, 18:35:05
Cool idea! Did you prototype this first?
Not yet, finalizing the design before I prototype.
Is this why the notches aren't shown in the diagram in the OP currently?

Thanks for organizing this. One other question: Is this Phantom-PCB compatible? I want to use this in a QF rapid case.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alaricljs on Sat, 27 October 2012, 18:46:29
Notches are there... LZ  style.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 27 October 2012, 18:48:57
Cool idea! Did you prototype this first?
Not yet, finalizing the design before I prototype.
Oh good! Sweet! I'll make sure that I don't miss this buy!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 October 2012, 18:51:15
Is this why the notches aren't shown in the diagram in the OP currently?

Thanks for organizing this. One other question: Is this Phantom-PCB compatible? I want to use this in a QF rapid case.

Are you talking about the notches for every switch? They're there, you just have to click on the pic to zoom in.

It's phantom compatible. Even says so in the title lol.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 October 2012, 18:56:33
Do want.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:33:49
Oh finally this exists! In for 1 for sure, possibly 2. Are you doing different colors?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 28 October 2012, 01:02:37
Is this why the notches aren't shown in the diagram in the OP currently?

Thanks for organizing this. One other question: Is this Phantom-PCB compatible? I want to use this in a QF rapid case.

Are you talking about the notches for every switch? They're there, you just have to click on the pic to zoom in.

It's phantom compatible. Even says so in the title lol.
Oh, I didn't realize the notches were being done this way. It makes sense now. I had thought I read somewhere about Phantom compatibility, but I didn't see it in the OP. I just needed to reread the title, I guess. Double fail on my part, sorry.

Anyway, I'm interested in one. I'll fill out the google document when it's available.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alixinhzai on Sun, 28 October 2012, 01:04:52
I like alu anodized :| if U like a phantom style :) we can use this file :D

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 28 October 2012, 01:36:25
Want 3 for my filcos

I prefer phantom style might be able to ask biphiany to help with the plate should just need to modify the phantom plate slightly. As for getting them cut talk to the_beast
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alixinhzai on Sun, 28 October 2012, 01:44:23
Want 3 for my filcos

I prefer phantom style might be able to ask biphiany to help with the plate should just need to modify the phantom plate slightly. As for getting them cut talk to the_beast

I was sent my file to the_beast :) but he said some issue on costa :|
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 28 October 2012, 01:49:00
Want 3 for my filcos

I prefer phantom style might be able to ask biphiany to help with the plate should just need to modify the phantom plate slightly. As for getting them cut talk to the_beast

I was sent my file to the_beast :) but he said some issue on costa :|
on costa?
Sorry am i missing something?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alixinhzai on Sun, 28 October 2012, 02:03:23
costa stab :) some issue about thickness of plate :|
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 28 October 2012, 02:06:59
costa stab :) some issue about thickness of plate :|
hmm i got mine cut and i worked fine on my phantoms... (not through him though) I believe it was just 16 gauge stainless id have to look it up again to make 100% sure though
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alixinhzai on Sun, 28 October 2012, 02:13:04
hmm i got mine cut and i worked fine on my phantoms... (not through him though) I believe it was just 16 gauge stainless id have to look it up again to make 100% sure though

oh, if it work on 16 gauge stainless :) I think no issue :D

PM the_beats for it :D I need one for my filco :D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 28 October 2012, 02:37:21
Want 3 for my filcos

I prefer phantom style might be able to ask biphiany to help with the plate should just need to modify the phantom plate slightly. As for getting them cut talk to the_beast

What's the difference between "phantom style" and the one I'm designing? They're functionally the same. Except, with the stabilizer cutouts on mine, it accepts cherry PCB mounts in both directions. Not sure if any TKL boards have backwards mounted stabilizers, but since this is "universal" I made it for backwards mounting too. Costar stabilizers can only be mounted in one direction though because of how the plastic clips are designed. Phantom plate can only support cherry/costar mounting in one direction.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gameaholic on Sun, 28 October 2012, 04:50:13
Definitely 1.  Maybe 2.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: balanar on Sun, 28 October 2012, 06:57:48
Definitely in for 1-3 pieces!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: tipo33 on Sun, 28 October 2012, 11:02:03
In for a solid one.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Acetrak on Sun, 28 October 2012, 12:16:04
In for sure, not such how many yet though.

I might need help installing too, not sure if I'm gonna DIY or if I need services from other GHers...but that's not until later lol

Thanks for putting this together WFD  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 28 October 2012, 15:44:18
I can do some desoldering/solder for people once these plates are out, ive been doing the process pretty regularly as of late.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 28 October 2012, 15:48:57
Want 3 for my filcos

I prefer phantom style might be able to ask biphiany to help with the plate should just need to modify the phantom plate slightly. As for getting them cut talk to the_beast

What's the difference between "phantom style" and the one I'm designing? They're functionally the same. Except, with the stabilizer cutouts on mine, it accepts cherry PCB mounts in both directions. Not sure if any TKL boards have backwards mounted stabilizers, but since this is "universal" I made it for backwards mounting too. Costar stabilizers can only be mounted in one direction though because of how the plastic clips are designed. Phantom plate can only support cherry/costar mounting in one direction.
your holes for the switches look completely different to me and I just used to the Phantom style ones
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 28 October 2012, 16:56:12

What's the difference between "phantom style" and the one I'm designing? They're functionally the same. Except, with the stabilizer cutouts on mine, it accepts cherry PCB mounts in both directions. Not sure if any TKL boards have backwards mounted stabilizers, but since this is "universal" I made it for backwards mounting too. Costar stabilizers can only be mounted in one direction though because of how the plastic clips are designed. Phantom plate can only support cherry/costar mounting in one direction.
your holes for the switches look completely different to me and I just used to the Phantom style ones

I don't think you're fully understanding how the cutout holes for the switches work. Doesn't really matter how they "look", it's the end function. A hole from the phantom has very small corner flaps and 2 large side flaps to hold the switch in place. You really don't need those middle flaps if you already have corner flaps to lock down the switch. What I did in this plate was completely remove the middle flap, and made the corner flaps larger. That's the only difference. The Korean LZ plates are designed like this too, without the unnecessary center flap. I did this so that possibly it could make the laser cutting a tad cheaper with a more simple design. When I get quotes, I'll see if there are any differences in price between the two designs.


blue = switch
red = top housing switch tabs
yellow = area of contact between switch and plate
dark grey = plate

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/phantomvscustom1.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 30 October 2012, 02:07:10
Works for me then. Since ive already got new plates for my phantom count me in for 3 stainless ones for my 2 filcos and a friends.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Saviant on Tue, 30 October 2012, 07:14:09
This sounds like what I wanted most from the phantom, I would be interested in 1 maybe 2 depending on what the cost will be.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 30 October 2012, 18:49:55
I sent price quote rests to many local metal cutting companies, still waiting for responses from most. The closest one is beating around the bush with back and forth email before they're actually giving me a quote. A few companies have absurd prices, but here is the best one so far:

Quote
Price to lasercut one part would be $50
 
Price to lasercut 20 parts or more would be $23.50 each
 
Price is for lasercutting either 16 gauge aluminum or stainless steel and does not include material.
 
If you want to waterjet the parts take the laser price x 3. Normally waterjet is selected if the material is thicker than .375 SS, or .250 aluminum.
 
Normally we are not supplying material.

I'm trying to aim for $25 per plate, including material so I'll wait for quotes from other companies first before posting the google doc order sheet up.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 30 October 2012, 19:16:54
I sent price quote rests to many local metal cutting companies, still waiting for responses from most. The closest one is beating around the bush with back and forth email before they're actually giving me a quote. A few companies have absurd prices, but here is the best one so far:

Quote
Price to lasercut one part would be $50
 
Price to lasercut 20 parts or more would be $23.50 each
 
Price is for lasercutting either 16 gauge aluminum or stainless steel and does not include material.
 
If you want to waterjet the parts take the laser price x 3. Normally waterjet is selected if the material is thicker than .375 SS, or .250 aluminum.
 
Normally we are not supplying material.

I'm trying to aim for $25 per plate, including material so I'll wait for quotes from other companies first before posting the google doc order sheet up.

I've been trying to stay away from this thread just because I don't want to take away from your GB but when I saw those prices :(


I can get a single plate done for around $29, 3 for ~$27 and I'm guessing 20 would be around $18-$20 (in stainless, I'm guessing alum would be just a bit cheaper). If you want to collect all the money and make a single order to me I'd have no problem doing that. I'd ship all the plates you and you handle all the shipping
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 30 October 2012, 19:27:11
Yea was going to recommend beast but you know...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 30 October 2012, 20:09:01
I'm trying to aim for $25 per plate, including material so I'll wait for quotes from other companies first before posting the google doc order sheet up.

I've been trying to stay away from this thread just because I don't want to take away from your GB but when I saw those prices :(

I can get a single plate done for around $29, 3 for ~$27 and I'm guessing 20 would be around $18-$20 (in stainless, I'm guessing alum would be just a bit cheaper). If you want to collect all the money and make a single order to me I'd have no problem doing that. I'd ship all the plates you and you handle all the shipping

Well I was under the impression that you and/or the guy you're working didn't want to do several different plates at the same time. This was brought up when it was mentioned if you can also run a plate for PURE along with the poker plate, but you said that would happen until after poker GB finished around December, and you'll start another one around X-mas break. I don't think I can wait until late December or next year to just barely start a GB, and I didn't want to bug you about running another one right now. I figured I'll just start it right now.

Anyways, price that your guy gives is pretty cheap, but then there would need to be triple shipping costs factored in with the plate prices? Shipping from him to you, from you to me, then from me to everyone else. Seems a bit redundant. I'm sourcing local cutters first so that I can just drive there to pick it up and distribute the plates, a one way shipping cost. But if somehow you can get plates + 3 way shipping to be cheaper than what I can get them for locally, them I'm assuming that your last post was an offer to help out on these plates?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 01 November 2012, 08:59:34

What's the difference between "phantom style" and the one I'm designing? They're functionally the same. Except, with the stabilizer cutouts on mine, it accepts cherry PCB mounts in both directions. Not sure if any TKL boards have backwards mounted stabilizers, but since this is "universal" I made it for backwards mounting too. Costar stabilizers can only be mounted in one direction though because of how the plastic clips are designed. Phantom plate can only support cherry/costar mounting in one direction.
your holes for the switches look completely different to me and I just used to the Phantom style ones

I don't think you're fully understanding how the cutout holes for the switches work. Doesn't really matter how they "look", it's the end function. A hole from the phantom has very small corner flaps and 2 large side flaps to hold the switch in place. You really don't need those middle flaps if you already have corner flaps to lock down the switch. What I did in this plate was completely remove the middle flap, and made the corner flaps larger. That's the only difference. The Korean LZ plates are designed like this too, without the unnecessary center flap. I did this so that possibly it could make the laser cutting a tad cheaper with a more simple design. When I get quotes, I'll see if there are any differences in price between the two designs.


blue = switch
red = top housing switch tabs
yellow = area of contact between switch and plate
dark grey = plate

Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/phantomvscustom1.png)

What's most important, though, is that the top and bottom have full contact on the switch. It's where that plastic spring is, and where most of the holding force will be I'm less worried about side-to-side, as long as it's precise cutting so it won't move. The actual area doesn't mean that much.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TDub on Thu, 01 November 2012, 16:02:10
Very interessted in one maybe even 2.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 02 November 2012, 18:50:25
I'm currently still working out details with Beast to get these cut. Order form will be up soon.


What's most important, though, is that the top and bottom have full contact on the switch. It's where that plastic spring is, and where most of the holding force will be I'm less worried about side-to-side, as long as it's precise cutting so it won't move. The actual area doesn't mean that much.

No worries, that quick drawing is just a depiction of only the lateral contact points. The whole top and bottom of the switch is held by the plate in the actual cut. The top and bottom measurements for the switches is one aspect that this plate and phantom plate agreed on.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:32:18
Ok finally got a quote. These will be $35 per plate, shipping is included. Plate itself is not much, but the size of it requires a certain size box. Order time frame is only a little less than 2 weeks, and payment due date is 1 week after that. You can start paying now though, and anodizing/shipping will be in the order of payment received. Here is the google doc order form, and I'll also put all this info in the OP. My prototype is currently being made.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGdUUHZkaEswaUpJMi1MVENTWWJWWHc6MQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGdUUHZkaEswaUpJMi1MVENTWWJWWHc6MQ)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:40:49
CONUS only or also international?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 12 November 2012, 16:04:13
International is ok, but I'll have to figure out shipping for that.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 16:28:42
How much more does anodizing cost?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 13 November 2012, 15:32:47
Hm...getting a plate from Dan, but why not have 2.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 14 November 2012, 09:07:55
Paid
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 10:10:44
How much more does anodizing cost?
Would like to know this as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 14 November 2012, 14:13:28
Paid for blue anodized plate
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: 4LI4Z on Wed, 14 November 2012, 14:27:39
Is ISO Filco-TKL possible?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 14 November 2012, 16:03:48
How much more does anodizing cost?
]Would like to know this as well.

I'm not too sure yet. I'm still in the process of getting all the equipments. But these will probably have to be anodized one by one, because anodizing requires several different baths and washes of different chemical/temperature. I do not have the space to set up a bathtub size container for full racks for every wash. Anodizing companies are pretty expensive because of the initial setup labor. I'm home-anodizing these so that it's cheap. But I really have no idea yet.


Is ISO Filco-TKL possible?
Possible, but not for this GB. Several switch holes are different, so it's going to be pretty expensive to cut 1 plate. If you're truly interested and willing to pay prototype costs, you can PM me.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:36:58
No ballpark on anodiziding costs? If it is more than $10 a plate I'll just take standard aluminum.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:58:02
Well he did say that it was an interest check. I'm sure if it ends up being too much later, you can opt out. But if you are interested, you should note so. Agree?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 19:52:29
I already put in for two plates and two anodizing colors. Was just trying to figure out anodizing costs so I could send money.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 20:10:58
Ah. I was under the impression that word be a separate charge if at all...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 14 November 2012, 20:45:14
Ok let me clarify. Anodizing will probably happen, but I'm not sure on anything yet. If there will be anodizing, I'll post up another form, and it'll cost extra to anodize it. The $35 shipped covers only the plate material, the laser guy cutting the plates, and shipping. I don't even have my prototype plate yet so I can't test out the anodizing. There will be a separate form to fill for anodizing AFTER I get all the plates. That's when you can decide for sure if you want it anodized or not. The anodizing option in the current form is only to gauge interest if people want color/hard coat on the plates or just the bare metal.

Again, payment is only for the un-anodized plate, and anodizing will be a separate cost.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 17 November 2012, 02:10:43
Ordered!

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: daerid on Sun, 18 November 2012, 12:39:08
Question: Doesn't preventing the switch from latching into the plate compromise the stability that plate mounting switches give you? Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gizzard on Sun, 18 November 2012, 12:56:39
Signed up for the buy.  What's the payment PayPal?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 18 November 2012, 14:12:22
Question: Doesn't preventing the switch from latching into the plate compromise the stability that plate mounting switches give you? Or am I missing something?

I'm not sure I fully understand your question. All 4 sides of the switch are held in by the plate. The full top and bottom of the switch is "latched" onto the plate, and the corners of the sides of the switches are also latched onto the plate. You won't be able to move it up or down,  or side to side.


Signed up for the buy.  What's the payment PayPal?

It's in the order form, but I also just PMed it to you just in case.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 18 November 2012, 14:51:10
It's in the order form, but I also just PMed it to you just in case.

Oh, whoops I missed that somehow too...filled out a form but have yet to send payment, I thought you had asked us to wait for some reason. 


So, you don't have these made yet, correct?  You will be having them made at the end of the month, and will ship at that time?  Those of us who opted for possible Anodizing will also be contacted as far as a price, before it's shipped out?

Do I understand that correctly?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Larken on Sun, 18 November 2012, 23:15:22
can I check how much it would be to ship one or two of these to Singapore?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 19 November 2012, 05:03:47
Tempting.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Larken on Mon, 19 November 2012, 05:26:38
order put in and paid.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 21 November 2012, 01:30:34
Very interested, as we near the deadline. A couple of questions.. do you happen to have a very very general ballpark about the cost of anodizing and the possible end date? I have no clue what to expect out of either and would just like to get some kind of idea about these points..
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 21 November 2012, 16:17:50
Very broad range of price, it will be more than $10 but less than $40 for each plate. Professional dye cost more than $10 per color already. I will contact you guys after they're made for anodizing option, but that won't be for another couple weeks. It really depends on Best and the laser cutter guy. I also need a variable power supply, so I'm deciding to build one or buy one. The premade ones in the $100 range are pretty weaksauce. They only provide 3 amps max.

Shipping to Singapore or any other international country is the same as domestic shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Wed, 21 November 2012, 18:42:04
Will you alert us as to when you believe they will be ready to go into production so we can pay? 

Can't wait for these to happen :p
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 22 November 2012, 17:04:32
I re-read the whole thread, but I wasn't sure if this was answered.. Are the plates going to be different across different boards? If I fill out Quickfire Rapid on the form, would I be able to use it in a Filco?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 November 2012, 20:23:39
Will you alert us as to when you believe they will be ready to go into production so we can pay? 

You can start paying right now. Order will actually close soon, and payment deadline is in a little more than a week.


I re-read the whole thread, but I wasn't sure if this was answered.. Are the plates going to be different across different boards? If I fill out Quickfire Rapid on the form, would I be able to use it in a Filco?

It's only 1 plate design that's made to fit various TKL keyboards, not a different design for for each keyboard brand. So yes, you can put CM quickfire in the form but if you decide you want it for a Filco instead, that works too. That question in the form is only so I can see which keyboards generate the most interest for this plate. So far, all orders are for Filco or CM quickfire, except for 1 order.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 22 November 2012, 22:03:04
Sweet, thanks for all the info! Signed up and paid.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 23 November 2012, 01:02:15
Put my order in. I plan on paying on Monday.

I'm really excited for this.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 23 November 2012, 19:09:13
hoping anodizing won't cost too much I've really always wanted a blue plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gameaholic on Sat, 24 November 2012, 08:49:02
Payment sent for 2.  Lemme know about anodizing. 
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: nolliepoper on Sat, 24 November 2012, 20:37:51
Completed order form and sent payment
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bw on Mon, 26 November 2012, 16:32:13
Paid.  Hope you can get the anodizing worked out.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 26 November 2012, 21:25:52
You can start paying right now. Order will actually close soon, and payment deadline is in a little more than a week.

If I already submitted the order, and just didn't pay, is it as simple as just sending $35 to your PayPal with my user name noted?  Or should I do it all over again from the Order form?

Also, once you know the price of anodizing...we'd just pay the difference then?

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 27 November 2012, 02:22:47
Ok I just received the prototype today. All edges and holes lines up with the case and switches well. The notches holds the switches snug from all 4 sides, while still leaving just enough room on the sides of each switch to open them up without desoldering. Biggest key point is that any type of stabilizer will fit without any compromise to tabs holding the switch or stabilizer. All switches can be removed with the stabilizers sill in without desoldering.

Since this plate allows it, I'm going to have cherry stabilizers on my personal Filco. I think that's pretty unique :) .


Prototype bare plate
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1827.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1827.jpg)


Plate overlay on top of a Filco just to verify all holes and cutout positioning. Haven't gotten the chance to solder switches and PCB on yet.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1828.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1828.jpg)


Here's a set of plate-mounted cherry stabilizer and costar stabilizers on the same plate, along with an empty stabilizer slot
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1824.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1824.jpg)


closeup of plate-mounted cherry stabilizer and empty stabilizer slot
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1821.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1821.jpg)



Now I just have to mention all the imperfections, which are only minor and doesn't affect the design or function.

There are a few "engraved" type scratches. Also, the slot between the stabilizer and switch are extremely thin so it makes that area look like 4 "pins", so it looks like they got bent during manufacturing. This isn't a problem though, I just bent them back with pliers. They actually HAVE to be bent back so that the cherry stabilizers can fit since everything is so snug.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1803.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=IMG_1803.jpg)

Throughout the whole top plate, there are marks that looks like tracks. I tried scrubbing this off but it doesn't seem to come off. I might try degreaser to remove these marks.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1804.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=IMG_1804.jpg)

On the back side, there are some areas that are heavily scratched.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1806.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=IMG_1806.jpg)

Many of the cutouts has imperfections from the laser cutting. This is to be expected though. The laser cutter guy deburred the main outer edge of the plate, but I didn't expect him to smooth out all the inside cuts as well. A quick file on these inner edges gets rid of all these debris pretty easily. The first 4 pics with stuff installed on it had all the edges cleaned off already.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1809.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=IMG_1809.jpg)


Overall, I think these scratches could have been avoided if there was more careful handling, but it's not a big problem. Lightly sanding the surface could fix that as well. Overall, I'm quite pleased with the design and how the laser cutting turned out. I'll update the OP with some pics.



You can start paying right now. Order will actually close soon, and payment deadline is in a little more than a week.

If I already submitted the order, and just didn't pay, is it as simple as just sending $35 to your PayPal with my user name noted?  Or should I do it all over again from the Order form?

Also, once you know the price of anodizing...we'd just pay the difference then?

Just send the payment, no need to fill out the form again. Anodizing is separate cost, you pay for that later if you want it done.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 27 November 2012, 02:36:12
From the minute or two that I looked at you plate, he should have deburred the bottom of the plate (since the dwg you sent me was showing the top). The marks/track pattern on the top are from the "timer saver", basically a belt felt belt sander/deburrer.

What I did for my stainless plates was mirror the plate so the laser would be cutting the bottom so that the "time saver" would be sanding the top of the plate and giving an even sanded finish to the top, not the bottom. Look at the bottom of the plate to see if it's sanded (I'm pretty sure it was). This mirroring is something you may want to think of before sending me the final dwg.


I also noticed that the legs where the stabilizers go is really thin.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Tue, 27 November 2012, 08:38:52
Wow looks great. I'm not afraid of doing some TouchUp to the plate, that's perfectly fine, but if we are getting anodizing then it should be done before that.

I'm thinking maybe getting powder coating instead, but then tolerances will be even tighter
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Tue, 27 November 2012, 09:41:30
Something else I was thinking about, have you tried throwing caps on everything to make sure it all looks right?  I know you said it was mathematically calculated to be exact...just thought it would be something good to double check before getting them all made. 

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 27 November 2012, 13:39:17
The prototype plate is the same one for CM QFR or is there a slightly different plate for those?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 27 November 2012, 14:37:47

What I did for my stainless plates was mirror the plate so the laser would be cutting the bottom so that the "time saver" would be sanding the top of the plate and giving an even sanded finish to the top, not the bottom. Look at the bottom of the plate to see if it's sanded (I'm pretty sure it was). This mirroring is something you may want to think of before sending me the final dwg.

I also noticed that the legs where the stabilizers go is really thin.

Yes I noticed the bottom was slightly sanded, because it had more of a brushed aluminum finish. It's good that he sanded the bottom, but regardless of which side is sanded, that's only top/bottom surface sanding. The debris and leftover metal shavings can't be removed from the inside cuts unless. This has to be done manually, and I don't expect him to spend 10 minutes for every plate doing this. But ironically, there are more scratches on the sanded side, so it must have happened post-processing. I'll consider having the original DWG file flipped, although I'm going to try experimenting with sandblasting so not sure if flipping it will matter at that point.

Yeah those legs that you're referring to are the the "pins" I was talking about that separates the cherry stabilizers from the switches. They are thin indeed, and I honestly didn't expect them to stay on after the laser cutting, so I'm glad they're actually present after the whole process. But after installing everything, these pins are clamped in between the switch and two stabilizer, so everything is pretty sturdy after installation. The fragility of it might be a problem during the manufacturing step though.



Wow looks great. I'm not afraid of doing some TouchUp to the plate, that's perfectly fine, but if we are getting anodizing then it should be done before that.

I'm thinking maybe getting powder coating instead, but then tolerances will be even tighter

Something else I was thinking about, have you tried throwing caps on everything to make sure it all looks right?  I know you said it was mathematically calculated to be exact...just thought it would be something good to double check before getting them all made.

If it's going to be anodized, I'd have to do all surface touch ups before anodizing, otherwise all the surface marks will be permanently etched into the anodized layer. Blemishes will show up pretty well after anodizing. Powdercoating won't work. It adds a tiny bit of thickness of the surface, so installing the switches might scrape some plastic or rub off the powder coat layer. If it's to be powdercoated, I'd have to make the original cutouts a fraction of a millimeter wider to account for the powdercoat layer.

Yea of course, I'll make sure I physically install everything before sending off the rest of the GB order. I only had about 15 min to play around with it yesterday.



The prototype plate is the same one for CM QFR or is there a slightly different plate for those?

If you looked at a few posts above (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg719713#msg719713) and in the OP, I mentioned it's only 1 universal plate, so this prototype plate will work with both Filco and CM quickfire TKL. All the different holes you see between the function row and the number row, along with the cutout for the controller is what makes it universal to accommodate standoffs and screws of the different TKL keyboards. I'll physically double check that it works with several keyboards when I have time.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 27 November 2012, 15:10:58
I have two QFR to test it on if you want to sell me the prototype :p
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 27 November 2012, 15:33:51
Lookin' good! :) Can't wait to have this finalized.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Tue, 27 November 2012, 17:11:51
Yes that's what I was figuring as far as anodizing, you'd likely have to be doing the touch ups pre-anodizing vs sending it to us, having us touch up, then sending back and anodizing, then sending to us again. 

Also, that's exactly what I meant when I said powder coating would make the tolerances too tight.  However, I figured sanding the inside edges of each hole would fix that (would even look kinda cool if the Aluminum became exposed again) kinda how we'd have to do to fix the burs, but that may be just too tight of a sanding job.  I didn't consider height of the plate. 

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 27 November 2012, 21:41:22
I have two QFR to test it on if you want to sell me the prototype :p

I only have 1 prototype plate. If you take full responsibility of making sure it fits other TKL keyboards, anodizing, and sandblasting, I'll sell it to you  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: tipo33 on Wed, 28 November 2012, 23:34:52
is this still open?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Wed, 28 November 2012, 23:49:06
Payment just sent, sorry for the delay.  Looking forward very very much so to this.  Basically all of my mods to my Filco are revolving around whenever I receive this plate :p

Is there any chance you'll do another run of these at a later date? 
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Magna224 on Thu, 29 November 2012, 01:41:24
I hope there is another run I completely missed it =(
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 29 November 2012, 02:13:50
is this still open?
I hope there is another run I completely missed it =(
Lucky for you guys, I have not submitted the order yet because something came up that delays this GB for a few days. I'll let late orders until I submit the orders to be made.



Is there any chance you'll do another run of these at a later date?

I would already have my own plate by then, so probably won't be interested in running another one. I'll order a few extras though for people that missed it.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 29 November 2012, 02:35:56
Can you invoice me or do I need to send payment on my own?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: tipo33 on Thu, 29 November 2012, 03:24:07
Whew...  just put in an order and paid.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:25:26
Plate fits everything well. Costar stabilizers are extremely tight because plate thickness is a tad over 0.060". Pictures shows plate-mounted cherry stabilizers though. Don't mind the non-uniform switch colors


Plate with switches, cherry stabilizers, mounted on a CM quickfire PCB.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1872.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1872.jpg)


Everything inside a closed quickfire case.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1894.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1894.jpg)


Same plate inside a closed Filco case.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1898.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1898.jpg)





Can you invoice me or do I need to send payment on my own?

We're all big boys now. You can send payment on your own  ;) . Instructions were in the form and OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: durainello on Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:38:47
Very nice.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Magna224 on Thu, 29 November 2012, 12:12:13
Well I need to be sure I have enough money for rent first before I order one. Will it still be open on the 2nd of december?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 30 November 2012, 15:28:42
Payment sent for two plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Sun, 09 December 2012, 23:36:25
Something just crossed my mind - for the QFR, are the switch tops for Caps Lock/Scroll Lock/Windows Key Lock (the keys that have LEDs) removable without desoldering?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 December 2012, 23:58:56
You have to desolder the LED first. Unless you mod the switch housing so it will clear the LED.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: remmeh on Tue, 11 December 2012, 11:16:17
This GB is way closed, right? Or else I'd be in for one...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: hluo87 on Tue, 11 December 2012, 12:36:19
can i still get one ??? ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 11 December 2012, 15:24:36
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been extremely busy had haven't logged in the forum for a couple days. Orders are closed but I ordered a few extras. If you want one, you need to PM me first.

Switches with LEDs needs to be desoldered before removing the switch, but you can mod those switches so that the LEDs can be left on.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 30 December 2012, 01:42:59
Any ETA?

Are these gonna be rolled in with the phantom plate production?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: akuJIWA on Sun, 30 December 2012, 01:58:19
Any ETA?

Are these gonna be rolled in with the phantom plate production?

Sir,

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.0
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 30 December 2012, 12:53:44
Yes, I've already placed my order there.

My question is, will these be manuf. separate from the phantom plates, or are they on hold till the phantom plate order is ready as well and then everything will be done at once?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Sun, 30 December 2012, 22:25:34
Curious to hear about an update as well.. I've been itching to put my QFR back together soon, and I'd love to hear more about anodizing as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 31 December 2012, 19:27:11
Quick update. The orders were submitted in early December, but the metal company is taking longer than expected because they had larger projects to do for other companies. With holiday seasons, they were pressed for time to get those done first, so these plates were cut after.


Are these gonna be rolled in with the phantom plate production?

These are nearly done. Just gotta wait for them to start working again after new years. I haven't even gotten back a complete quote for phantom plates yet, so no worries, the two plate GB's won't be combined.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 31 December 2012, 20:59:21
Got it. Thanks for the quick update.

I don't think it'd be too wild to assume a similar price for the Phantom plate, as this plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 31 December 2012, 22:14:14
Oh god... Why did I miss this :(:(:(
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 03 January 2013, 11:11:19
Any word on anodizing costs yet? Or is that not until the plates arrive and you have a chance to experiment with one?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 03 January 2013, 16:41:27
Quick update. The orders were submitted in early December, but the metal company is taking longer than expected because they had larger projects to do for other companies. With holiday seasons, they were pressed for time to get those done first, so these plates were cut after.

wat?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 07 January 2013, 04:57:47
Uh... I completely forgot about this GB. I don't even know where my money's been spent xD I'm hoping this will finish up soon? I want a nice blue plate with easy to swap switches for testing.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 11 January 2013, 21:30:19
Ready to rock n' roll. I'll comment on these after I take care of a few things.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/plates/universalTKLplatesamples.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/plates/universalTKLplatesamples.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Fri, 11 January 2013, 21:32:44
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettt
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 11 January 2013, 21:34:43
Nice!!!! Super excited!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 12 January 2013, 00:47:13
Awesome, can't wait man.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 12 January 2013, 02:43:16
Any extras?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Saviant on Sat, 12 January 2013, 10:07:04
A question on these, are they compatible with the Ducky YOTD as was planned?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 12 January 2013, 10:12:55
What is "Jitterbug"
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: alaricljs on Sat, 12 January 2013, 22:15:53
It's a type of finishing tool similar to a random orbit sander... except in 3d and capable of not random.



(http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~eamonn/et/lunchbox.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 12 January 2013, 23:07:12
Wee I spot mine!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 17 January 2013, 13:14:36
Ready to rock n' roll. I'll comment on these after I take care of a few things.
What is the status? If you have them are they shipping soon or have you been playing with anodizing?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 19 January 2013, 13:54:16
Sorry guys, I've been neglecting this GB for about a week. Been busy with GH60 prototypes and real life stuff. I'm still getting my anodizing setup. I already committed to majority of the equipment, and here's the main piece:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/PSU.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/PSU.jpg)



Since these did not have any post-processing except for deburring, there are some scratches that might be visible. I'll get to shipping these out soon I hope.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 19 January 2013, 13:56:45
Exciting! Are these plates stainless or aluminum? I remember filling out the form for aluminum anodized, but with so many plates going on, I can't remember what each is made of...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 19 January 2013, 13:58:29
You can't anodize SS
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 19 January 2013, 13:59:19
I know. That's why I asked.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 19 January 2013, 14:00:05
These should be alum
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 19 January 2013, 14:01:31
Good. I like SS as much as the next guy, but I've been looking forward to having some nice colored Al plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 20 January 2013, 23:46:33
Are we still going to have a chance to choose anodizing? Still waiting on a price for that. Also these work with Phantom unless we are building a Winkeyless 1.5 version right?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: NikoGasm on Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:09:56
Just wondering what the status is on the plates?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 27 January 2013, 16:25:46
Sorry guys, I've neglected this GB for a few weeks. I put a lot of money into anodizing equipment, but I won't be able to anodize these with the space and time I have. It takes roughly 2.5hours for the whole anodizing/dye process (depends on current density of course). The process needs about 5 different baths, and I don't have room for 5 large bathtubs. Heat dissipation will also be a problem if I cram too many plates into one tub. So in other words, they must be anodized one or two at a time, and I don't have that kind of time for every plate.

There is a possibility you can source your own anodizing place, sorry :( . I'll be shipping these out withing the next coming week. I also have a few extras for anyone that missed the GB.


Also these work with Phantom unless we are building a Winkeyless 1.5 version right?

Yes, these are compatible with phantom PCB if you want the 1.25x modifiers.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Sun, 27 January 2013, 16:30:03
Thanks for the update! I've been holding off resoldering projects to see if these could come soon enough.. Really looking forward to it!!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: NikoGasm on Mon, 28 January 2013, 17:04:25
Sp we should have our plates some time in early February? Sounds great to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 30 January 2013, 02:14:52
Can't wait. Cherry stabs on Filco, yeye
Title: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Saviant on Wed, 30 January 2013, 06:39:30
Sent you a pm WFD
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: balanar on Thu, 31 January 2013, 11:10:00
I have one of these plates with WFD that I'm selling for cost price should anyone have missed out on the GB. Just drop me a pm if you want it!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 06 February 2013, 08:34:57
Have these been sent out WFD?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 06 February 2013, 21:42:55
Just got mine in the mail woohoo!!! :cool: Thanks WFD!!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 06 February 2013, 22:03:53
I have one of these plates with WFD that I'm selling for cost price should anyone have missed out on the GB. Just drop me a pm if you want it!

PM'd!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 February 2013, 22:10:19
Got mine today, as well. Thanks again, WFD!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 06 February 2013, 23:49:18
Got mine too, just need Phantom to arrive and I'll be rebuilding a couple CM QFRs.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: 4LI4Z on Mon, 11 February 2013, 09:01:22
Is there a chance for a second run with Universal ISO TKL plates?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 18 February 2013, 09:28:13
Would appreciate if you could send out international orders soon... T.T
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 18 February 2013, 13:28:22
All domestic orders were sent out a week or two ago, and some international plates went out. I also shipped them in order by payment, and your order was one of the extra ones after these plates were already made.

Lastly, for the rest of the international orders, I'm trying to figure out best and cheapest way to ship it. Recently USPS shipping prices nearly doubled for international shipping, and it wasn't that cheap to begin with. The international ones I sent to far were sent at a loss, so I'm buying different packaging stuff to downsize the package and weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 25 February 2013, 08:30:11
1 week bump T.T

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 25 February 2013, 08:52:16
All domestic orders were sent out a week or two ago, and some international plates went out. I also shipped them in order by payment, and your order was one of the extra ones after these plates were already made.

Lastly, for the rest of the international orders, I'm trying to figure out best and cheapest way to ship it. Recently USPS shipping prices nearly doubled for international shipping, and it wasn't that cheap to begin with. The international ones I sent to far were sent at a loss, so I'm buying different packaging stuff to downsize the package and weight.
I know this is about an older post but, you are not a business and should not be shipping at a loss. Shipping prices are out of your control. I think you should contact those who are international and let them know what the price difference of shipping is and if they want to cancel their order then list their plates for sale in the classifieds to refund them. I know I would pick up at least another plate, maybe more for my friends as well.
Title: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Gupgup on Mon, 25 February 2013, 09:00:52
I know a couple people that want plates also
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Mon, 25 February 2013, 09:49:51
i'm late to the game but i'd pick up a plate if anyone canceled.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 01 March 2013, 00:37:48
Have these been sent out yet for int orders?

If not i think id like a refund(40$) T.T was looking forward to throwing this in my qfr.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 01 March 2013, 00:54:30
i'm late to the game but i'd pick up a plate if anyone canceled.

What are you talking about? You already got your plate lol


Have these been sent out yet for int orders?

If not i think id like a refund(40$) T.T was looking forward to throwing this in my qfr.

Yeah they've all been sent out. I just don't personally PM every order after I ship it.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 01 March 2013, 00:56:07
Thanks!! I appreciate it very much and sorry for getting on your ass about it.

Coulda just made a post in the thread "all int orders have been sent"
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cyberwave on Fri, 01 March 2013, 02:02:05
i'm late to the game but i'd pick up a plate if anyone canceled.

What are you talking about? You already got your plate lol


Have these been sent out yet for int orders?

If not i think id like a refund(40$) T.T was looking forward to throwing this in my qfr.

Yeah they've all been sent out. I just don't personally PM every order after I ship it.

dont mind me asking  :( but mine too??  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Fri, 01 March 2013, 10:29:27
i'm late to the game but i'd pick up a plate if anyone canceled.

What are you talking about? You already got your plate lol

no plate for me i bought plate stabs from you last week for another project :p
Title: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: remedyhalopc on Sat, 09 March 2013, 08:31:43
I'll take a plate if you have anymore from anyone that backed out.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 11 March 2013, 03:15:27
I don't think this was brought up before, but for those who want to use Costar stabilizers..

Black stabilizer clips fit perfectly in the plate's skinny parts of the holes. However, I had an extremely tough time fitting the white stabilizer inserts into the clips, and even when I did, keypresses didn't work, because the insert didn't fit through the clip on the travel back up.

This is why I've avoided using Costar stabilizers with these plates for so long. But I've just been unsatisfied with how the Cherry stabilizers felt with the spacebar, so I figured out a solution today. With the black clips already mounted to the plate, I took a pair of pliers and pulled the vertical sides of the clip (moreso the back) outwards, until I got the white inserts to sit inside the clip without touching those vertical sides.

Loving it now - Costar for the spacebar and Cherry for everything else.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 12 March 2013, 21:31:56
I don't think this was brought up before, but for those who want to use Costar stabilizers..

Black stabilizer clips fit perfectly in the plate's skinny parts of the holes. However, I had an extremely tough time fitting the white stabilizer inserts into the clips, and even when I did, keypresses didn't work, because the insert didn't fit through the clip on the travel back up.

This is why I've avoided using Costar stabilizers with these plates for so long. But I've just been unsatisfied with how the Cherry stabilizers felt with the spacebar, so I figured out a solution today. With the black clips already mounted to the plate, I took a pair of pliers and pulled the vertical sides of the clip (moreso the back) outwards, until I got the white inserts to sit inside the clip without touching those vertical sides.

Loving it now - Costar for the spacebar and Cherry for everything else.

Can you post some pics of how you got the costar parts to fit into the cherry stab cut out? I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 15 March 2013, 23:15:51
So you can get the black clip on like this, and there'll just be space leftover on the sides. This is OK in terms of how the clip fits onto the plate.

(http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-1.jpg)

However, the issue is that this vertical part is too far forward.

(http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-2.jpg)

What'll happen is that the white insert is going to hang up on the come-up, so your spacebar/other stabilized key will never reset.

(http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-3.jpg)

The solution is to take a pair of pliers, and then push the vertical sides outwards. Do so gently, especially if you've already soldered everything on. (If you don't, the black clip might break and crumble inwards towards the PCB, and you could lose the piece under the plate.)

(http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-4.jpg)

You can kind of notice that it's a little more outward than before. Here's a side-by-side comparison of the earlier picture (left), and what it should look like now (right).

(http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-2.jpg) (http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-5.jpg)

Now the insert can sit pretty freely inside, and it can move in-and-out smoothly where the top of the black clip is. The stabilized key should be able to reset properly now.

(http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-6.jpg) (http://assets.christopherbuenaventura.com/img/keyboards/costar-plate/costar-plate-7.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 15 March 2013, 23:20:09
Very nice tutorial! That's exactly what you have to do on all these boards that use the Universal stabilizer mounts, but especially the stainless steel ones, since they are thicker.

:D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Lunartuna on Fri, 15 March 2013, 23:39:28
Thanks for the pics. I think I'm going to measure the exact size and location of the costar holes on my zibal 60 and file the cherry style stab holes to the right size on my ducky plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: mistakemistake on Fri, 15 March 2013, 23:45:13
Hey T, these plates look great. Thanks for offering these!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 15 March 2013, 23:59:59
cgbuen, thanks for bringing that up. The cutouts for costar slots are in the correct positions, but the problem is the plate thickness. I've asked around a lot for exactly 0.060" that Cherry specified for the plate thickness, however US system use our own gauge system for thickness, so 16guage is exactly 0.0625". Even that small amount of extra thickness cause the costar stabilizers to not properly clip into the slots correctly. That's why that vertical part you're referring to is slightly bent forward.

I guess you can force it straight like you did, but what I did to half the plates I sent out from this GB, was to file down the top part of the underside of the plate so the stabilizers can clip on perfectly. I used a dremel to do this.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/plates/th_IMG_2645.jpg) (http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/WhiteFireDragon/media/keyboard/plates/IMG_2645.jpg.html)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: cyberwave on Sat, 16 March 2013, 00:17:53
WFD, did you get a PM from me? :(
Can't seem to get it registered under 'sent items' even though i get a 'message sent successfully' prompt  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 19 March 2013, 20:38:35
Oh man...I want one
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 25 March 2013, 00:18:02
cgbuen, thanks for bringing that up. The cutouts for costar slots are in the correct positions, but the problem is the plate thickness. I've asked around a lot for exactly 0.060" that Cherry specified for the plate thickness, however US system use our own gauge system for thickness, so 16guage is exactly 0.0625". Even that small amount of extra thickness cause the costar stabilizers to not properly clip into the slots correctly. That's why that vertical part you're referring to is slightly bent forward.

I guess you can force it straight like you did, but what I did to half the plates I sent out from this GB, was to file down the top part of the underside of the plate so the stabilizers can clip on perfectly. I used a dremel to do this.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/plates/th_IMG_2645.jpg) (http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/WhiteFireDragon/media/keyboard/plates/IMG_2645.jpg.html)
So this would have to be done before soldering the PCB on?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:49:32
i dont mean to necro a 2 month old thread but i ran into issues with costar stabs and this plate.  I tried bending them back as far they would go but the keys are still really sticky.  everything is soldered already so i cant realistically go to plate mounted cherry stabs and i saw wfd dremeled out the bottom of the plates a little to get them to fit but again that would require me to desolder everything.  i found this on the deskthority wiki for phantom plates.  do you think this would work?


If your Costar stabilizers feel a little sticky, here is what you can do:   - they are seated correctly
1. In the first Costar star stabilizer picture on the right (scroll down a bit to see) the red areas need to be fully seated onto the plate. alaricljs's suggestion: Use a micro straight blade screw driver and gently press the black plastic piece toward the plate edge so that it engages properly. You may or may not hear a click as it seats itself. The tolerance is very tight.

2. Costar Stabilizer Clip -   the stabs are as wide as they will go.  they white inserts will fit in between but are very sticky/fussy
Also, the stabilizer clips are made of plastic, so the width can vary. You can see the difference between these two in the picture on the right (scroll down a bit).

3. Costar Stabilizer Clip Width Difference -    this is what im about to try.  what does this exactly accomplish?  i just want to make sure this is relavant before i start hacking up my stabs anymore than what they already are.
Besides making sure the clips are seated perfectly, you can also gently bend the clip with your figures to make the gap wider. After this was done to a few Costar stabilizer clips, the wide, stabilized keys should not stick any more.
If, and only if, the two techniques don't fix your sticky Costar stabilizers, the last resort is to file down slightly the areas marked as red in the first Costar stabilizer clip picture. Use a thin filer that fits in there and file just a little. after filing both sides down a little bit, it should fit very well on to the plate.

(http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/5/51/Costar%2BStabilizer%2Bfile.jpg/631px-Costar%2BStabilizer%2Bfile.jpg)


EDIT: i went with #3 but with a razor blade.  carved out the stab a little bit on the back side, slid in and all they stabilized keys are operating as intended  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Chase5delta on Wed, 29 May 2013, 03:39:34
Anybody happen to be selling one of these?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 29 May 2013, 05:02:52
Anybody happen to be selling one of these?

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=47
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: remmeh on Wed, 29 May 2013, 10:14:03
I think he was asking if there are any more plates, not about stabilizers.

In which case, if there are more plates, I'm interested D:
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 29 May 2013, 10:32:25
Should do a round 2 if WFD is up to it after phantom and gh 60 finishes.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 29 May 2013, 10:58:58
For those that PM me, I do not have anymore. I'll get another small batch in a month. You can pre-pay for it if you'd like.

This batch will be stainless steel instead of aluminum, and there will be minor changes as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:01:07
What kind of minor changes, if I might ask?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: keymaster on Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:06:04
i dont mean to necro a 2 month old thread but i ran into issues with costar stabs and this plate.  I tried bending them back as far they would go but the keys are still really sticky.  everything is soldered already so i cant realistically go to plate mounted cherry stabs and i saw wfd dremeled out the bottom of the plates a little to get them to fit but again that would require me to desolder everything.  i found this on the deskthority wiki for phantom plates.  do you think this would work?


If your Costar stabilizers feel a little sticky, here is what you can do:   - they are seated correctly
1. In the first Costar star stabilizer picture on the right (scroll down a bit to see) the red areas need to be fully seated onto the plate. alaricljs's suggestion: Use a micro straight blade screw driver and gently press the black plastic piece toward the plate edge so that it engages properly. You may or may not hear a click as it seats itself. The tolerance is very tight.

2. Costar Stabilizer Clip -   the stabs are as wide as they will go.  they white inserts will fit in between but are very sticky/fussy
Also, the stabilizer clips are made of plastic, so the width can vary. You can see the difference between these two in the picture on the right (scroll down a bit).

3. Costar Stabilizer Clip Width Difference -    this is what im about to try.  what does this exactly accomplish?  i just want to make sure this is relavant before i start hacking up my stabs anymore than what they already are.
Besides making sure the clips are seated perfectly, you can also gently bend the clip with your figures to make the gap wider. After this was done to a few Costar stabilizer clips, the wide, stabilized keys should not stick any more.
If, and only if, the two techniques don't fix your sticky Costar stabilizers, the last resort is to file down slightly the areas marked as red in the first Costar stabilizer clip picture. Use a thin filer that fits in there and file just a little. after filing both sides down a little bit, it should fit very well on to the plate.

Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/5/51/Costar%2BStabilizer%2Bfile.jpg/631px-Costar%2BStabilizer%2Bfile.jpg)



EDIT: i went with #3 but with a razor blade.  carved out the stab a little bit on the back side, slid in and all they stabilized keys are operating as intended  ;)

I seem to be having the same issue with a few of the Costar stabilizers. They make a 'clink' noise and are a little sticky. I think I'll have to go with option #3 to fix it. Thanks for posting this :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:13:36
Left and right edges will widen ~0.01", top slit for costar stabs increased by 0.02" (to account for plate thickness (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg824224#msg824224)), and spacebar wire slit added.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 29 May 2013, 13:20:56
Are you still taking orders for this?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Tai92 on Wed, 29 May 2013, 13:26:12
I'm also interested in one if I could get one from the next batch.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 30 May 2013, 00:07:48
OP left you pm regarding preordering plate of the new batch.

what sort of changes/ improvement will the next batch have vs the older one. In your pm u said it will be steel instead of aluminum, will there be cut out holes for the screws, read somewhere that the 1st version didn't had those, just curious.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 30 May 2013, 00:27:16
Hmmmmmm. I might have to pick up a stainless steel one too...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: remmeh on Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:25:56
Also interested in a stainless steel plate and pre-paying for it.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 30 May 2013, 12:27:33
OP we need payment info to preorder
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 30 May 2013, 12:29:00
Hang on, I'll sort this out in a bit. I have to take care of the GH60 stuff first. I'll respond to PMs about this within a day or two.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 30 May 2013, 14:00:53
Hang on, I'll sort this out in a bit. I have to take care of the GH60 stuff first. I'll respond to PMs about this within a day or two.

Awesome. Let us know with an update :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: OneshotshifT on Thu, 30 May 2013, 14:38:30
Throw me a pm with the info to please  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 30 May 2013, 15:38:16
Hang on, I'll sort this out in a bit. I have to take care of the GH60 stuff first. I'll respond to PMs about this within a day or two.

ok , take your time then :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 04 June 2013, 20:41:03
I am interested in prepaying. Sorry didn't read the thread was there any mention of a price difference either way after changing metals?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:54:20
I am interested in prepaying. Sorry didn't read the thread was there any mention of a price difference either way after changing metals?

WFD..... we are waiting.... lol
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 06 June 2013, 20:23:54
Just wanted to add that I would be interested in a new plate for my upcoming Filco MJT-2 TKL project :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 06 June 2013, 20:44:04
Looking forward too :).

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: csimi on Fri, 07 June 2013, 05:30:45
Same here.
So far no place that does anodizing here replied to me, so using a stainless steel plate would probably be better to use than an unanodized aluminium one.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:24:14
Ok here is round 2. I do not have time to go through all the steps and logistics of a GB, so I'm paying for these first. Here is the preorder list so far, based on people that have posted or PM me. I will send out PMs soonish when I free up some time. Once I receive them, the remaining ones will just be sold at a mark up.

Tai92
Chase5delta
Dreamre
bazemk1979
dadgh
remmeh
do_Og@n
OneshotshifT
lightsout714
csimi
Photoelectric
Rendom
eyesmiles
kekkon
quochung1989
VesperSAINT
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:28:59
Ok here is round 2. I do not have time to go through all the steps and logistics of a GB, so I'm paying for these first. Here is the preorder list so far, based on people that have posted or PM me. I will send out PMs soonish when I free up some time. Once I receive them, the remaining ones will just be sold at a mark up.

Tai92
Chase5delta
Dreamre
bazemk1979
dadgh
remmeh
do_Og@n
OneshotshifT
lightsout714
csimi
Photoelectric

This is for aluminum or steel? I already have aluminum. If steel, I may be interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:34:46
Ok here is round 2. I do not have time to go through all the steps and logistics of a GB, so I'm paying for these first. Here is the preorder list so far, based on people that have posted or PM me. I will send out PMs soonish when I free up some time. Once I receive them, the remaining ones will just be sold at a mark up.

Tai92
Chase5delta
Dreamre
bazemk1979
dadgh
remmeh
do_Og@n
OneshotshifT
lightsout714
csimi
Photoelectric

Oh, can I still get in on the round 2?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:36:55
This is for aluminum or steel? I already have aluminum. If steel, I may be interested.

Steel. Other changes on this revision were posted on the previous page.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:55:41
nice.
put me on the list for 2 plates plz. (depending on the price)

btw. the plate does need a little modification for the KBT ONI. I will post pictures of my plate if you want.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 12 June 2013, 03:05:38
Please put me on the list for 1 plates. Thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 12 June 2013, 03:06:39
This is for aluminum or steel? I already have aluminum. If steel, I may be interested.

Steel. Other changes on this revision were posted on the previous page.

I couldn't find anything on that last page but I did read about you dremeling parts off for the Costar stabilizers so they'd fit properly? You did that for me on the aluminum one too :) I'm just going to assume that these SS ones are going to be identical to my aluminum one (with the dremel job done) but just stainless steel.

Man... I am only finally getting around to my ergo-clear mod on my Filco this week... if I had known I was going to take this long to do it, I should've just waited for this hahaahahah. Oh well, maybe I'll just get this stainless steel one too and mod/install this into my QFR.

How much are these going to cost shipped and what's the expected ETA??? I'm sorry if this information was already posted somewhere but I couldn't find it and I looked through every page. Please feel free to PM me too.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 12 June 2013, 03:26:13
Left and right edges will widen ~0.01", top slit for costar stabs increased by 0.02" (to account for plate thickness (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg824224#msg824224)), and spacebar wire slit added.

Don't count on these being shipped in a few weeks though. I'll take names on the preorder list, but I'm not going to process payment yet. I should get these in 2 weeks, but won't be able to ship out until I get settled at my new place sometimes early July.

They'll cost more than aluminum. I did the round 1 batches at $35 shipped, even for international orders. I think shipping international alone was around $18 + paypal fees + currency conversion fees, so those ones were done at a loss.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 12 June 2013, 03:31:43
Well I paid the mark up price for the aluminum one in CONUS but that was because I bought after group buy was over :P

I'd be grateful if you'd add me to the list for the Stainless Steel one for now :) Thank you ~
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: noobandroid on Wed, 12 June 2013, 06:54:21
I'll have one also tqvm
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 June 2013, 09:37:15
I would like to get on the preorder list for one as well.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 12 June 2013, 09:47:08
Can we get an estimate on price or is it too early?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: remmeh on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:10:45
I was able to get one off a GH member here, so I am no longer interested. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 13 June 2013, 07:42:38
Hey WFD, I left you PM regarding resistors and LED's, you probably are busy but when you decide to send me PM regarding payment for the steel plate please answer my questions if you can, thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: xavierblak on Thu, 13 June 2013, 08:49:03
I'll probably be in for 2, once we hear back about pricing.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 13 June 2013, 15:23:58
Is it the plates or the shipping that will be more expensive? I was under the impression that steel was cheaper since the Phantom plates were I think $20 a piece.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:29:05
I would also like to get on the TKL preorder list. (PM sent too) MJ
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: kelbear on Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:18:37
Good luck with the GB!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:20:35
Looking forward to this GB :D!

I just noticed my name was on the list LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:26:28
I'd like to up my interest to 2 plates, pending on the final price!  (At least one for sure, thank you for having my name on the list!)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:16:11
I've paid for this small batch already, so I only have a set amount. I don't have time to do a full GB for these. I've just sent out PMs to everyone that wanted one so far. Probably won't be accepting anymore "preorders" since I want to reserve some to sell later.


Is it the plates or the shipping that will be more expensive? I was under the impression that steel was cheaper since the Phantom plates were I think $20 a piece.

Both. Recently there were huge increases in shipping for domestic and about double for international, effective sometimes in January this year. The first round I did was last year.

Stainless steel is roughly 3x more expensive than aluminum. But the bulk of the price is from the laser cutting process, not the material. The reason why phantom plates were only ~$25, is because those were at the 140 price tier. There's no way I'm going to front that much money for this round2 TKL plates, so I only ordered a small batch. Also that $25 phantom plate did not include shipping yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 17 June 2013, 17:32:59
Paid!

Thanks WFD!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:06:16
Payment sent

Thank you WFD!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:42:52
WFD form filled waiting on invoice from you.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:44:23
WFD form filled waiting on invoice from you.

I think there are addresses on the form for paypal and amazon payments.


WFD shot you a pm.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:47:38
Paid for 2 :)  Thank you!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 21:52:28
Paid via paypal gift, 1 QFR plate, also included shipping info and GH nick on paypal payment.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: oluf on Mon, 17 June 2013, 23:54:50
I've paid for this small batch already, so I only have a set amount. I don't have time to do a full GB for these. I've just sent out PMs to everyone that wanted one so far. Probably won't be accepting anymore "preorders" since I want to reserve some to sell later.

Schucks.. I just saw this. If you're willing to add another 2 (or 1) to the list, please add me. If not, I'll try to get some of those you sell later. TIA.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: blueSmoke on Tue, 18 June 2013, 02:55:45
WFD,
I dont know how I missed on this one!! If you are taking preorders, I would like to be added to the list. If not, please add me to your 'selling later' list. I am desperately in need of replacing few keys from my filco and this will help.

Didn't think of overloading your PM inbox, so posting here.

thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: redskull on Thu, 20 June 2013, 11:58:50
hi WFD,

am late to the party, but if any of the plate is up for sale, do inform me. i want to get one. thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: noobandroid on Sat, 22 June 2013, 10:48:33
paid fast fast
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 11:02:41
Is there an approximate shipping date for these plates?

ETA: just noticed "early July" on the previous page :). Hopefully soon then!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 25 June 2013, 01:02:45
Like some of the other here, I am interested in one but late to the party. Let me know if there are any leftovers.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Bohemica on Tue, 25 June 2013, 01:46:31
I'm also interested in obtaining one of these plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 25 June 2013, 02:12:48
I'd be interested in one of these plates as well.

Ideally I'd like it to be shipped with my GH60 order to save additional shipping costs to Germany :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: blueSmoke on Mon, 01 July 2013, 00:39:24
Paid for one. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 01 July 2013, 00:42:29
What? So they are still available?

Did you just PM WFD?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Poom on Mon, 01 July 2013, 06:18:30
im also interested in buying. if you still have them.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: noobandroid on Mon, 01 July 2013, 22:34:27
been a while since any response
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:22:00
I'm still around, but been pretty busy with moving to my new place. I've already sent out PMs to the prior list of preorders. Plates will finish soon and I'll go pick them when I can free up some time. Not sure what other updates I need to give.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:38:37
*Cheerleading pom-pom squad here*
Go plates Go!
 :p
(Thank you for the hard work! And good luck with the move!)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:44:44
I'm still around, but been pretty busy with moving to my new place. I've already sent out PMs to the prior list of preorders. Plates will finish soon and I'll go pick them when I can free up some time. Not sure what other updates I need to give.

lol sensing someone is getting pissed hahaha, and cant blame him :D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: oluf on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:44:58
Kudos on the new place WFD!

Thank you for the update! =)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: xavierblak on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:33:20
I sent you a PM but it may have been lost in the shuffle. Before I ordered I wanted to find out if selecting a different board is gonig to effect the plate I get. I thought the plate was universal so I was confused when I saw the option to select the keyboard it was for.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:36:55
delete plz
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: noobandroid on Wed, 03 July 2013, 04:11:42
I'm still around, but been pretty busy with moving to my new place. I've already sent out PMs to the prior list of preorders. Plates will finish soon and I'll go pick them when I can free up some time. Not sure what other updates I need to give.

i paid mine so expecting one NO MATTER WHAT :P
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 04 July 2013, 21:22:26
Is there an ETA on the plates?
I still have to get a new desoldering pump before it arrives :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 05 July 2013, 07:05:08
mid july he should have them
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: BliTzKiN on Fri, 05 July 2013, 22:50:19
I'm also interested in obtaining 2 if you still have leftovers or intending to do another round. Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Fri, 05 July 2013, 23:13:42
If is there leftovers, I want two plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 10 July 2013, 17:37:23
Just a quick update, I picked up the plates a few days ago, I'll package most tonight and have it shipped tomorrow. I'm not processing leftovers right now. That will have to come later when I have more time.


lol sensing someone is getting pissed hahaha, and cant blame him :D

Huh? Why would I be mad?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 10 July 2013, 17:40:06
Just a quick update, I picked up the plates a few days ago, I'll package most tonight and have it shipped tomorrow. I'm not processing leftovers right now. That will have to come later when I have more time.

<3!!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 10 July 2013, 17:41:28
Just a quick update, I picked up the plates a few days ago, I'll package most tonight and have it shipped tomorrow. I'm not processing leftovers right now. That will have to come later when I have more time.


lol sensing someone is getting pissed hahaha, and cant blame him :D

Huh? Why would I be mad?

Perfect timing! Yaaay~ Looks like I'll be able to install my vintage blacks into my QFR sooner than I thought.  Thanks, dood.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 11 July 2013, 02:26:55
I'm not processing leftovers right now. That will have to come later when I have more time.

Ok, as stated some posts above I am interested in leftovers.

Do you have a list of people interested or will I have to spam f5 in this thread until you offer them? ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 11 July 2013, 02:57:20
Here is the round 2 batch that I'm currently packaging to ship out for the preorders. The cut quality is even better than the Korean stainless steel plate from a different keyboard that I just got.


(http://i.imgur.com/MEAvwcb.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/MEAvwcb.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/V0G47Pt.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/V0G47Pt.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/JMhhDDU.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/JMhhDDU.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/uqBfo4b.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/uqBfo4b.jpg)




Do you have a list of people interested or will I have to spam f5 in this thread until you offer them? ;)

I'll keep you in mind after I take of these first shipments.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 11 July 2013, 03:54:01
I'll keep you in mind after I take of these first shipments.

Thank you very much :)

EDIT:   I also ordered plates for the GH60 GB. Would it be possible to add this universal TKL plate to that order to save shipping costs?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Poom on Thu, 11 July 2013, 03:57:32
Please also keep me in mind, im also interested if there are any leftovers!!  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Batmann on Thu, 11 July 2013, 04:15:07
If you have a spare ANSI 125 I would be interested as I am not sure when I'll get mine from bavman if ever I get it :(
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:06:25
well, since everyone else is doing it...

I'd really like to pick one of these up as well. I PMed a while back but I think I just missed the cut-off for preorders
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:31:45
i'd be interested in 1 or 2 after the pre orders get sorted out.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: korrelate on Thu, 11 July 2013, 12:31:45
I know I'm ridiculously late, and I know that you're hammered with requests, WFD, but I would also like to express an interest in any left overs. If you have any available, could you please consider me also? I know it's a complete long shot, but thanks for reading this anyway.


Cheers,

K
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Defying on Thu, 11 July 2013, 17:30:41
I'm late, but I'm interested in any leftovers you may have.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 18:13:53
I'm ready :D

(http://i.imgur.com/YpWD9e7.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:04:56
Arrived today!  Very nice plates.

(http://i.imgur.com/FY5CIh0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/i7GWzrl.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 15 July 2013, 12:54:17
Just got mine in... I'm kind of heated right now.... How the hell do they do this to a stainless steel plate? It's not like WFD could've reinforced it with anything stronger LOL... I mean... ugh... is there anything I can do to straighten this thing out perfectly? Goddamn USPS... The packaging had "Do not bend," on it (Thanks WFD ;) ), and it's almost like they had trolls sitting in the post office that just damages packages for the heck of it...

I do not blame WFD in any way or form :) Awesome plates by awesome dood.

Any kind of solutions would be nice :) Other than that, the plate is pretty!

See package in mail get all happy and excited but then I pull it out and I can already tell...

(http://i.imgur.com/D3utMtN.jpg)

I pray it's just the packaging... I open it and fu-

(http://i.imgur.com/JbtlAlh.jpg)

I think, "maybe it's not too bad..."

(http://i.imgur.com/YezEMHR.jpg)

lol

(http://i.imgur.com/iVyFVh2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fBa5DS0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/48Qjmms.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 15 July 2013, 12:56:10
Sometimes I actually think postal services try and **** up packages..

To straighten it you'll need to bend it the opposite way.. you can't just flatten it as it'll never be fully flat that way.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Mon, 15 July 2013, 12:56:45
use that granite counter top to straighten it out.  just bend it until it looks good.  every plate i've bought has come like that unfortunately.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 15 July 2013, 12:58:24
Sometimes I actually think postal services try and **** up packages..

To straighten it you'll need to bend it the opposite way.. you can't just flatten it as it'll never be fully flat that way.

Yeah... I assumed just bending it would be the obvious way to do it  but now I'm scared that while I'm bending it, it's going to give way I'm going to create like this huge fold into it....... this is pretty retarded.

Thanks for the tips though....

use that granite counter top to straighten it out.  just bend it until it looks good.  every plate i've bought has come like that unfortunately.

I feel your pain :( I shall give it a try after lunch. Thanks for the empathy :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 15 July 2013, 12:58:56
l0l

next time just buy more plates so they act as reinforcements huehuehue jk

bending it back should be ok.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:01:38
Sometimes I actually think postal services try and **** up packages..

To straighten it you'll need to bend it the opposite way.. you can't just flatten it as it'll never be fully flat that way.

Yeah... I assumed just bending it would be the obvious way to do it  but now I'm scared that while I'm bending it, it's going to give way I'm going to create like this huge fold into it....... this is pretty retarded.

Thanks for the tips though....
Just do it nice and slowly, don't rush it. Bend it the opposite way slightly, see how it looks, and repeat until it looks flat. Don't go overboard and bend it loads at once.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:01:44
Well, if you're too worried about damaging it further and if you have a local metal or machine shop, perhaps they can run it through their metal roller thingy and straighten it out for hopefully a small fee?

I've never done this, just an idea
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:01:53
l0l

next time just buy more plates so they act as reinforcements huehuehue jk

bending it back should be ok.

Yeah... I'll give that a shot first. I'll post results later :)) Thank you though.

Just do it nice and slowly, don't rush it. Bend it the opposite way slightly, see how it looks, and repeat until it looks flat. Don't go overboard and bend it loads at once.

Will do :)

Well, if you're too worried about damaging it further and if you have a local metal or machine shop, perhaps they can run it through their metal roller thingy and straighten it out for hopefully a small fee?

I've never done this, just an idea


Just do it nice and slowly, don't rush it. Bend it the opposite way slightly, see how it looks, and repeat until it looks flat. Don't go overboard and bend it loads at once.

Ooo, worst case scenario, I'll try that :) Thanks! I guess if the bending doesn't work as well, I can try take it to the school and go to the workshop and see if a friend can do it :)




Also, thanks WFD for the awesome plate! The finish on it as just as pretty as the aluminum one!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:02:36
Sometimes I actually think postal services try and **** up packages..

To straighten it you'll need to bend it the opposite way.. you can't just flatten it as it'll never be fully flat that way.

Yeah... I assumed just bending it would be the obvious way to do it  but now I'm scared that while I'm bending it, it's going to give way I'm going to create like this huge fold into it....... this is pretty retarded.

Thanks for the tips though....

My Poker plates arrived like that (almost..), I think some of the curvature is due to the raw stock.  I used a 2x4, bent them flat gradually, trying to move across the area being bent, to avoid creasing them.  Worked fine, got them both nice and flat. 

 
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:08:40
My Poker plates arrived like that (almost..), I think some of the curvature is due to the raw stock.  I used a 2x4, bent them flat gradually, trying to move across the area being bent, to avoid creasing them.  Worked fine, got them both nice and flat. 

 

Thank you for the information! Good to know that others have been able to fix this issue perfectly at home. I shall give it a shot as soon as I can today! Time to go gather heavy text books.

Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 15 July 2013, 14:31:59
VesperSAINT, if you can't fix it, send that one back and I'll send you one of the leftovers I have. For the time being, TRY THIS (at 46m 58s) (http://youtu.be/gdLAdci6p-w?t=46m58s). If you can't do it, then I'll try to salvage it.

I know Beast's source for plates come bent because they way they are processed, but all mine are shipped perfectly flat and ready to be installed. I paid the manufacturer extra for the brushed finish, and for them to NOT bend it. A bit sad to see the post office handling it like this.

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:06:50
My plate is in my Filco with everything soldered in!  No issues that I can discern.  The Costar stabilizers are SLIGHTLY more loose in the steel plate vs. the stock plate, but seems fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 16:16:50
Got my plates in today. They look great! Thanks, WFD. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 15 July 2013, 19:32:56
VesperSAINT, if you can't fix it, send that one back and I'll send you one of the leftovers I have. For the time being, TRY THIS (at 46m 58s) (http://youtu.be/gdLAdci6p-w?t=46m58s). If you can't do it, then I'll try to salvage it.

I know Beast's source for plates come bent because they way they are processed, but all mine are shipped perfectly flat and ready to be installed. I paid the manufacturer extra for the brushed finish, and for them to NOT bend it. A bit sad to see the post office handling it like this.



I shall leave it straightening over night, but if it's bad even tomorrow, I'll be sure to let you know if I send it back :)

Thank you for the kind offer! I'll be sure to take you up on it when/if needed!

You're jawesome!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: turtle on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:34:08
WFD,

If you have any extra i would like to buy one. thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 17 July 2013, 16:41:32
got mein, nice and straight :) thanks WFD
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 16:52:03
we have been conversing via PM's about plates. I wanted to post here to make sure that I am in line somewhere.
:)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 17 July 2013, 17:14:29
mine just arrived.
even with the sticker...

it is bent. .... so sad...
hopefully I can straighten it out decently.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 17 July 2013, 17:17:48
mine just arrived.
even with the sticker...

it is bent. .... so sad...
hopefully I can straighten it out decently.
They usually come like this. however its usually very easy to straighten it
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 17 July 2013, 17:22:59
My plate arrived today. I was outside when the mailman came, he said it has a do not bend sticker "I didn't bend it". It is a very nice quality & flat, Thanks WFD, MJ
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 18 July 2013, 00:20:57
mine just arrived. it is bent. .... so sad...

Dammit  >:D . I'll have to start insuring these packages. That'll be cheaper than buying tons of reinforcements. These plates are expensive and I can't afford many replacements. I'll shoot you a PM in a bit.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 18 July 2013, 00:26:08
mine just arrived. it is bent. .... so sad...

Dammit  >:D . I'll have to start insuring these packages. That'll be cheaper than buying tons of reinforcements. These plates are expensive and I can't afford many replacements. I'll shoot you a PM in a bit.

It's ok. I managed to bent it straight (just took a while)
 
I was just surprised that the steel plates got that much bent since the alu plate I got from you was perfectly straight with about the same packaging.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:11:53
Just reporting that I got the plate straightened out fairly flat. Just spent the entire day modding my QFR. Happy to say that the mod was successful! Only thing that bothers me is the blemishes the plates arrived with but I assume these happened during manufacturing :\ Right, WFD?

Now I have 2 custom/modded keyboards! One aluminum and the other stainless steel! Thanks WFD.

(http://i.imgur.com/mASJZB5.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/3duSZhw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GTuOTaW.jpg)





The blemishes :( At least I won't see them with keycaps on :)

(http://i.imgur.com/1D7E3S7.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Kempher on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:38:20
Just reporting that I got the plate straightened out fairly flat. Just spent the entire day modding my QFR. Happy to say that the mod was successful! Only thing that bothers me is the blemishes the plates arrived with but I assume these happened during manufacturing :\ Right, WFD?

Now I have 2 custom/modded keyboards! One aluminum and the other stainless steel! Thanks WFD.

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(http://i.imgur.com/mASJZB5.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/3duSZhw.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/GTuOTaW.jpg)






The blemishes :( At least I won't see them with keycaps on :)

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(http://i.imgur.com/1D7E3S7.jpg)


Looks good, you can barely see the marks, and those def wont show once its all back together.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:39:37
mine did not have any marks but the aluminium plate from the first round was covered in blemished (i didn't mind it too much)

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:48:17
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Just reporting that I got the plate straightened out fairly flat. Just spent the entire day modding my QFR. Happy to say that the mod was successful! Only thing that bothers me is the blemishes the plates arrived with but I assume these happened during manufacturing :\ Right, WFD?

Now I have 2 custom/modded keyboards! One aluminum and the other stainless steel! Thanks WFD.

(http://i.imgur.com/mASJZB5.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/mASJZB5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3duSZhw.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/3duSZhw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GTuOTaW.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GTuOTaW.jpg)



The blemishes :( At least I won't see them with keycaps on :)

(http://i.imgur.com/1D7E3S7.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/1D7E3S7.jpg)

No, blemishes and large scratches are not suppose to be there, especially like how your last picture shows. The manufacturer was careful not to put scratches on the surface after the brushed finish, because I told them these are final products and won't be powder-coated later. I also spot checked all the ones I sent out so far when I packaged them, and none of them were like that.

First pic shows you laying the stock black plate on top with a tone of stuff on top to straighten it out. I think that's where the scratches came from. Maybe try to take a towel to scrub off those marks to see if they're removable.


mine did not have any marks but the aluminium plate from the first round was covered in blemished (i didn't mind it too much

The first round aluminum ones, I will admit did have some scratches, especially the leftover ones. That's how bare stock metal comes, and I did not pay extra for them to do surface finishing, and I did not tell them the plates were final products. They assumed I was going to have them painted to media-blasted elsewhere.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:56:12
mine did not have any marks but the aluminium plate from the first round was covered in blemished (i didn't mind it too much)



Both of mine had blemishes but oh well :\ Not a big deal if I can't see it :))

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Just reporting that I got the plate straightened out fairly flat. Just spent the entire day modding my QFR. Happy to say that the mod was successful! Only thing that bothers me is the blemishes the plates arrived with but I assume these happened during manufacturing :\ Right, WFD?

Now I have 2 custom/modded keyboards! One aluminum and the other stainless steel! Thanks WFD.

(http://i.imgur.com/mASJZB5.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/mASJZB5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3duSZhw.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/3duSZhw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GTuOTaW.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GTuOTaW.jpg)



The blemishes :( At least I won't see them with keycaps on :)

(http://i.imgur.com/1D7E3S7.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/1D7E3S7.jpg)

No, blemishes and large scratches are not suppose to be there, especially like how your last picture shows. The manufacturer was careful not to put scratches on the surface after the brushed finish, because I told them these are final products and won't be powder-coated later. I also spot checked all the ones I sent out so far when I packaged them, and none of them were like that.

First pic shows you laying the stock black plate on top with a tone of stuff on top to straighten it out. I think that's where the scratches came from. Maybe try to take a towel to scrub off those marks to see if they're removable.


mine did not have any marks but the aluminium plate from the first round was covered in blemished (i didn't mind it too much

The first round aluminum ones, I will admit did have some scratches, especially the leftover ones. That's how bare stock metal comes, and I did not pay extra for them to do surface finishing, and I did not tell them the plates were final products. They assumed I was going to have them painted to media-blasted elsewhere.

The scratches were on there from the start (I swear, I have no reason to lie as I built the keyboard anyway) but they may be a result from the shipment seeing that mine were super bent too... :( .. I only placed the black plate on top of that thing after it was already mostly straightened out, and I made sure for no movement between the two... Now I wish I just sent it back to you and got it replaced... :P I don't blame you for the scratches, but I hope you believe me too... *sigh* Just bad luck, I guess... can't really do anything about it seeing that I already made the keyboard.

All in all, awesome plates, WFD! :)

Note: WFD is the man.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: shadewolf on Thu, 18 July 2013, 15:05:35
Got mine in as well, and it's also got a nice bend in it and on one of the corners, but I'm sure I'll be able to straighten it out before I get the rest of the parts together to get my Filco modded. Or maybe whoever mods it will straighten it for a small fee :D

Thanks WFD :)

Edit: Maybe going forward you could offer to ship these in a medium flat rate box if people want to pay for it to avoid them getting roughed up...or if you could source smaller boxes that would fit the plate better...anyways just a thought :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:58:27
Any left WFD? I need one for my phantom. Not going to wait any longer for bavman.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: turtle on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:03:23
I hope so I would love one. Just picked up a qfr >.<
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:11:15
I might have to get another batch, because I don't have enough leftovers for everyone.

Maybe this time around, I'll have Beast cut it to save on costs. But Beast's local source will definitely come already bent, and finish is not as nice. So it'll come down to unbending it yourself and less nice surface finish, or pay a little more for smoother brushed finish and ready to install.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:14:17
I might have to get another batch, because I don't have enough leftovers for everyone.

Maybe this time around, I'll have Beast cut it to save on costs. But Beast's local source will definitely come already bent, and finish is not as nice. So it'll come down to unbending it yourself and less nice surface finish, or pay a little more for smoother brushed finish and ready to install.

whatever is easier for you man.  Beast plates are pretty good quality and bend isn't really that bad.  in the end, its a plate.  who's going to be looking at it?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:26:03
Out of curiosity, what do you guys use to open the switches once they are mounted onto the plate?  In the absence of the Beast's tool?  Bent staples?  Photos or a video would be great.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badcop on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:28:19
Out of curiosity, what do you guys use to open the switches once they are mounted onto the plate?  In the absence of the Beast's tool?  Bent staples?  Photos or a video would be great.

(http://swartamps.com/tech/socket_retention/jewelers_flathead_screwdriver_650.jpg)

used a jeweler's flathead with some success.  nothing beats the switch tool.  its easier, faster and doesn't mar the switch house nearly as much as a screwdriver.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:29:46
Before my switch removal tool, I used tweezers like this:

(http://avalanche.tessco.com/productimages/250x250/17734.jpg)

I only had one so it got tricky at times but if you had 2, it'd probably work just as well as the switch removal tools. They should be fairly cheap online too.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:31:58
Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:33:21
Thank you.

(b^_^)b
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: turtle on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:45:50
I might have to get another batch, because I don't have enough leftovers for everyone.

Maybe this time around, I'll have Beast cut it to save on costs. But Beast's local source will definitely come already bent, and finish is not as nice. So it'll come down to unbending it yourself and less nice surface finish, or pay a little more for smoother brushed finish and ready to install.

whatever is easier for you man.  Beast plates are pretty good quality and bend isn't really that bad.  in the end, its a plate.  who's going to be looking at it?

^^agreed. Thanks wfd! Lmk!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: UniClown on Fri, 19 July 2013, 17:03:49
Out of curiosity, what do you guys use to open the switches once they are mounted onto the plate?  In the absence of the Beast's tool?  Bent staples?  Photos or a video would be great.

Some people have success with binder clips like these

(http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Staples/s0275756_sc7?$splsqvo$)

remove the black part and bend it for the right angle. I haven't done this, but I think nubbinator does.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: oluf on Fri, 19 July 2013, 19:53:10
I received my plate today. Nice and straight and blemish free... Thank you WFD!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 20 July 2013, 14:42:49
I have a spare TKL plate availible. I ordered a plate from WFD then later I got a Phantom pcb with a plate. PM me if interested sell for what I paid. M.J.
EDIT HAS BEEN SOLD !!!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 20 July 2013, 14:50:57
I have a spare TKL plate availible. I ordered a plate from WFD then later I got a Phantom pcb with a plate. PM me if interested sell for what I paid. M.J.

(http://www.moviefancentral.com/images/pictures/review62285/helms-deep-aragorn-charge_o_GIFSoup.com.gif?1332795944)

You gon' git lotsa PM's, bro.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 20 July 2013, 15:04:40
On a semi-unrelated note, what do you think is a good way to fancy up stock Filco plates?  I have 2 now, without use.  Wondering if sanding and using engine enamel (+baking) would result in sturdy finish.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 20 July 2013, 15:07:25
On a semi-unrelated note, what do you think is a good way to fancy up stock Filco plates?  I have 2 now, without use.  Wondering if sanding and using engine enamel (+baking) would result in sturdy finish.

That be a good question, man. I have 2 unused plates not too ~ Hmmm. The QFR one is already pretty and red but the Filco one is kind of ugly. Keep us posted on what you do with them :D Also, update your avatar with the spacebar! :P
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 20 July 2013, 15:09:42
I'll look into it.  There are lots of cool engine enamel colors, from metallics to glossy shades.  I've been using one of the plates as a lubing station. Also great for playing with switches.  Like I have a batch of vintage blacks now, mounted on an empty plate, just to play with.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 21 July 2013, 13:33:12
Still waiting my order :S (2 ISO plates). Are there still pending shipments? I hope so, otherwise something went wrong with my order.

I'm moving soon to a new address and I'll like to know when I can expect the package to arrive and so leave instructions about what to do with it.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 21 July 2013, 17:03:54
Still waiting my order :S (2 ISO plates). Are there still pending shipments? I hope so, otherwise something went wrong with my order.

I'm moving soon to a new address and I'll like to know when I can expect the package to arrive and so leave instructions about what to do with it.

wait. there are ISO plates?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 21 July 2013, 17:05:21
Still waiting my order :S (2 ISO plates). Are there still pending shipments? I hope so, otherwise something went wrong with my order.

I'm moving soon to a new address and I'll like to know when I can expect the package to arrive and so leave instructions about what to do with it.

If I got mine on July 15, in the U.S., then it's entirely possible that yours are still traveling, given that you are in Spain.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 21 July 2013, 17:46:06
Still waiting my order :S (2 ISO plates). Are there still pending shipments? I hope so, otherwise something went wrong with my order.

I'm moving soon to a new address and I'll like to know when I can expect the package to arrive and so leave instructions about what to do with it.

If I got mine on July 15, in the U.S., then it's entirely possible that yours are still traveling, given that you are in Spain.

Thanks for your reply. Knowing that they are still dispatching plates around USA let me know it's just a matter of time :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 04:55:59
Still waiting my order :S (2 ISO plates). Are there still pending shipments? I hope so, otherwise something went wrong with my order.

I'm moving soon to a new address and I'll like to know when I can expect the package to arrive and so leave instructions about what to do with it.

If I got mine on July 15, in the U.S., then it's entirely possible that yours are still traveling, given that you are in Spain.

Thanks for your reply. Knowing that they are still dispatching plates around USA let me know it's just a matter of time :)

maxmalkav, wrong GB. Although this plate is compatible with phantom PCB, this GB is unrelated to logistics of the Phantom GB.

For your specific situation of the Phantom GB, bavman has your stuff and it's out of my control. If I had known he was going to go AFK for this long (I sure hope he is ok), I would have personally shipped it myself. I told him I'd be willing to help him ship out stuff he was suppose to take care of, but bavman insisted on shipping your stuff since it was his mistake to ship out your PCB separately.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: maxmalkav on Tue, 23 July 2013, 06:42:36
Still waiting my order :S (2 ISO plates). Are there still pending shipments? I hope so, otherwise something went wrong with my order.

I'm moving soon to a new address and I'll like to know when I can expect the package to arrive and so leave instructions about what to do with it.

If I got mine on July 15, in the U.S., then it's entirely possible that yours are still traveling, given that you are in Spain.

Thanks for your reply. Knowing that they are still dispatching plates around USA let me know it's just a matter of time :)

maxmalkav, wrong GB. Although this plate is compatible with phantom PCB, this GB is unrelated to logistics of the Phantom GB.

For your specific situation of the Phantom GB, bavman has your stuff and it's out of my control. If I had known he was going to go AFK for this long (I sure hope he is ok), I would have personally shipped it myself. I told him I'd be willing to help him ship out stuff he was suppose to take care of, but bavman insisted on shipping your stuff since it was his mistake to ship out your PCB separately.

D'oh! I apologise for the confusion. WhiteFireDragon, thanks a lot for the info ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:24:09
I received my plate with no bend at all, thanks to WFD  ;D and the postman  :p

One question though, can I power coat the plate?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: eyesmiles on Tue, 23 July 2013, 19:25:26
I received my plate with no bend at all, thanks to WFD  ;D and the postman  :p

One question though, can I power coat the plate?  ;D

You can powder coat the plate as I've had it done to Beast's poker plate. I was going to have WFD's plate powder coated but I thought about it and felt it would be a waste especially since WFD had it brush finished. It looks great as it is :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 July 2013, 07:34:11
I received my plate with no bend at all, thanks to WFD  ;D and the postman  :p

One question though, can I power coat the plate?  ;D

You can powder coat the plate as I've had it done to Beast's poker plate. I was going to have WFD's plate powder coated but I thought about it and felt it would be a waste especially since WFD had it brush finished. It looks great as it is :)

I've had some motorcycle parts powder-coated, and I recall that the coating is fairly thick.  Did you mask off the key switch openings, or is there enough clearance to fit the keys even after the coating is applied?

Could be the brand of coating the shop applied, too.  I was having wheels and a swing-arm coated, they may have laid it on pretty thick.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 July 2013, 08:55:28
I think powder coating would look nice, but is a bit overkill for a plate. I usually give them a sanding with 80-grit sandpaper and about 3 light coats of regular Krylon in whatever color I want (usually satin black) and call it good. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 24 July 2013, 09:07:34
I personally love the brushed steel look and would hate to cover it up with anything short of anodizing.  And I love how the steel glimmers through with dark keycaps over it.  The stock black Filco plate, however, is a different story :) 
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 July 2013, 09:46:10
I personally love the brushed steel look and would hate to cover it up with anything short of anodizing.  And I love how the steel glimmers through with dark keycaps over it.  The stock black Filco plate, however, is a different story :) 

:D

Somewhat ironic, from someone who wants to paint everything else. I LOL'd.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 24 July 2013, 09:47:33
I paint all the boring stuff!  Like black cases, which are like the modern beige (and beige is so rare, it's back to being cool again :D)...   Want a modern  tenkeyless?  What color is it?  Oh yes, 99% of them are black. 

I'm keeping my stock white Filco plate white.  I've slowly banished black from most of my electronics, with the exception of my monitors (black/white and black/silver).  And my aluminum mouse pad has some black on it :(
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: eyesmiles on Wed, 24 July 2013, 13:06:44
I received my plate with no bend at all, thanks to WFD  ;D and the postman  :p

One question though, can I power coat the plate?  ;D

You can powder coat the plate as I've had it done to Beast's poker plate. I was going to have WFD's plate powder coated but I thought about it and felt it would be a waste especially since WFD had it brush finished. It looks great as it is :)

I've had some motorcycle parts powder-coated, and I recall that the coating is fairly thick.  Did you mask off the key switch openings, or is there enough clearance to fit the keys even after the coating is applied?

Could be the brand of coating the shop applied, too.  I was having wheels and a swing-arm coated, they may have laid it on pretty thick.

It was a from some place in South San Francisco that my friend had it done because they used the same shop for parts they needed for their house renovation (small trinkets and such). Since I got a Beast plate primarily for my friend, he was the one who dealt with the shop. I just saw the end result. He did mention filing down some areas that he believe could have problems whered he'd put switches but other than a few tight fits where the stabilizers were, it went well.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 25 July 2013, 11:35:30
Received mine on Monday in Canada. There were no scratches/blemishes and it was flat. I'm highly satisfied! Thanks again WFD. In total, desoldering and soldering the switches took me a whole afternoon, however it was well worth it!

I will post pictures tonight.

-Edit

Added higher quality crappy photos :).
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 25 July 2013, 20:35:35
Looks great, Dreamre. So glad these international ones aren't getting bent. So far, I think only 2 plates from the whole batch got bent.

Is that a detachable cable mod? Where did you get that end sticking out?


It was a from some place in South San Francisco that my friend had it done because they used the same shop for parts they needed for their house renovation (small trinkets and such). Since I got a Beast plate primarily for my friend, he was the one who dealt with the shop. I just saw the end result. He did mention filing down some areas that he believe could have problems whered he'd put switches but other than a few tight fits where the stabilizers were, it went well.

How much for the powder coating? I only asked about it once from a local shop, and added on too much cost to the plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 25 July 2013, 20:39:51
I think powder coating would look nice, but is a bit overkill for a plate. I usually give them a sanding with 80-grit sandpaper and about 3 light coats of regular Krylon in whatever color I want (usually satin black) and call it good. :)

I'm probably going to try powder coating this time, but I agree Krylon works great after a nice light sanding to allow the paint a good surface to adhere too. But we'll see how much I love the stainless :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 25 July 2013, 21:12:00
Looks great, Dreamre. So glad these international ones aren't getting bent. So far, I think only 2 plates from the whole batch got bent.

Is that a detachable cable mod? Where did you get that end sticking out?


It was a from some place in South San Francisco that my friend had it done because they used the same shop for parts they needed for their house renovation (small trinkets and such). Since I got a Beast plate primarily for my friend, he was the one who dealt with the shop. I just saw the end result. He did mention filing down some areas that he believe could have problems whered he'd put switches but other than a few tight fits where the stabilizers were, it went well.

How much for the powder coating? I only asked about it once from a local shop, and added on too much cost to the plate.

It was quite fast too -- I was very surprised!

It's actually a detachable cable mod by Paranoid here!

Here's a picture to the mod on my Filco MJ2 TKL. I sold that to get a Ninja.

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk310/DREAMRE/photo4.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 25 July 2013, 22:20:02
So DupliColor has a line of anodizing effect paints ("MetalCast"), and I'm in possession of 4 colors.  Apparently it can be sprayed on bare metal and should be fairly durable.  I've only sprayed them over silver paint until now, but I plan on sanding off the powder coating from one of the stock black Filco plates I have laying around (that should be a lot of fun :sarcasm:) and will try one of the colors.  Probably red.
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalCast/
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 25 July 2013, 23:02:12
It was a from some place in South San Francisco that my friend had it done because they used the same shop for parts they needed for their house renovation (small trinkets and such). Since I got a Beast plate primarily for my friend, he was the one who dealt with the shop. I just saw the end result. He did mention filing down some areas that he believe could have problems whered he'd put switches but other than a few tight fits where the stabilizers were, it went well.

How much for the powder coating? I only asked about it once from a local shop, and added on too much cost to the plate.

It was pricey for the plate; roughly $38.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 25 July 2013, 23:04:55
Meh... that's what I thought. That's why I didn't even bother asking tons of places. I know the process of powder coating is tedious, just like anodizing.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:42:27
Ok, I'm going to give this a try, for science!  Sanded down one of my unused Filco plates, and now trying to decide what color to go with... probably Red.

(http://i.imgur.com/h2Rwofm.jpg)

These give an anodizing effect, but as to how sturdy on bare metal... that it to be tested.  I may need to get their Adhesion Promoter to go underneath, as directed.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:45:47
Ok, I'm going to give this a try, for science!  Sanded down one of my unused Filco plates, and now trying to decide what color to go with... probably Red.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/h2Rwofm.jpg)


These give an anodizing effect, but as to how sturdy on bare metal... that it to be tested.  I may need to get their Adhesion Promoter to go underneath, as directed.

This should be interesting.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 26 July 2013, 20:19:39
The short answer is that those paints work.  I've used the Adhesion Promoter as specified, and it's only been a few hours, but the finish is sturdy enough to sand.  And it takes 7 days to fully dry (from the bottle description). 

It doesn't come out exactly nicely anodized, as it needs to be polished a whole lot after spraying (not by sanding but by rubbing with cutting / rubbing compounds to get rid of dark dullness).  Here is the result in bad kitchen lighting, and I expect it to get better.  It won't be uniform--looks a bit aged, with darker outlines by the holes.  But I kind of like the effect.

(http://i.imgur.com/tDCr9R2.jpg)

(looks more anodized in person).  Anyway, not a walk in the park as far as the process goes but potentially worth it if anyone is interested.  Some of the darkness is remnants of black powder coating that I couldn't quite get out (some of it was deep into rough parts of the steel, and in some light it was all sanded off, but in other, there were shadows left).
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: BliTzKiN on Fri, 26 July 2013, 20:43:40
The short answer is that those paints work.  I've used the Adhesion Promoter as specified, and it's only been a few hours, but the finish is sturdy enough to sand.  And it takes 7 days to fully dry (from the bottle description). 

It doesn't come out exactly nicely anodized, as it needs to be polished a whole lot after spraying (not by sanding but by rubbing with cutting / rubbing compounds to get rid of dark dullness).  Here is the result in bad kitchen lighting, and I expect it to get better.  It won't be uniform--looks a bit aged, with darker outlines by the holes.  But I kind of like the effect.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tDCr9R2.jpg)


(looks more anodized in person).  Anyway, not a walk in the park as far as the process goes but potentially worth it if anyone is interested.  Some of the darkness is remnants of black powder coating that I couldn't quite get out (some of it was deep into rough parts of the steel, and in some light it was all sanded off, but in other, there were shadows left).

Holysmokes, that looks really good. What did you use to sand it down? it looks so even from the picture above, awesome job man!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 26 July 2013, 20:46:47
200-grit 3M sandpaper, used wet.  When it was all done, I cleaned the plate again and used some dry.  Mostly tried sanding horizontally to imitate a brushed effect, but of course it didn't come out as nicely. 

It looked a lot more even before it got painted.  That paint doesn't exactly spray in uniform layers... Hence a lot of buffing and polishing afterwards.  It's got noticeable variations in person.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: oluf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 11:16:44
Wow! That looks great! Once it has switches and caps on it I think it would be hard to spot imperfections.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 27 July 2013, 11:18:54
If only I had some use for it...  I'm still trying to figure out a future keyboard to use vintage Blacks on (that I have a bag of).  Not another Filco though!  But I was told stock Filco plates fit Phantom PCBs.  This was just a curiosity-inspired experiment.

Edit: adding photos taken in the daylight: the first one is normal daylight and the second with the sun shining onto the plate

(http://i.imgur.com/JIv8Yvv.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/BtHC0Qw.jpg)

You can see all the darker areas well here--those are from the uneven steel surface on the thinner parts, where sanding off the black powdercoating was tough, and I also feel like the underlying steel surface wasn't that smooth to start with--almost a bit porous.  The paint should look better on plates that are bare metal without having to sand anything off.  The finish seems sturdy enough and very smooth after polishing.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 July 2013, 11:22:26
If only I had some use for it...  I'm still trying to figure out a future keyboard to use vintage Blacks on (that I have a bag of).  Not another Filco though!  But I was told stock Filco plates fit Phantom PCBs.  This was just a curiosity-inspired experiment.

Why not just get a phantom pcb and a phantom plate :P
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 30 July 2013, 19:16:22
Just as a quick update for anyone interested--this painting method seems to work well.  Now that it's been a few days, the finish is very hard, I'm trying to scratch it with my mail, and it's resisting very well ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: csimi on Fri, 02 August 2013, 09:22:33
Got my plates and PCB, nothing is bent. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: javallet on Sat, 24 August 2013, 09:47:16
WhiteFireDragon, are you still taking orders or have any plates left? :) I would be interested in one if so!
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 24 August 2013, 10:05:09
He's still on vacation, but he mentioned in another thread that he has more people that want the plates, than he has plates available. So he will have to figure out some fair way to sell the plates he has.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 24 August 2013, 11:35:16
Obviously, we need to have battles of some sort. My suggestion is arena style. Two men enter, one man walks out. And he gets his plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:11:11
Obviously, we need to have battles of some sort. My suggestion is arena style. Two men enter, one man walks out. And he gets his plate.

Seems legit  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:12:48
I was going to suggest rap battles too, but nobody wants this.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:15:20
Moose thinks that
GH isn't ready for more battlin'
Little does he know that
He's due for a paddlin'

My flows flow quicker than
a board with lubed Blacks
no stickerin'
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:24:36
Moose thinks that
GH isn't ready for more battlin'
Little does he know that
He's due for a paddlin'

My flows flow quicker than
a board with lubed Blacks
no stickerin'

t=2m28s

edit: just click the link. I've done this before, but I can't seem to get it to start a certain time when embedded...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:58:06
Have everyone received their plate? I am still waiting on mind for over 2 months now, I am losing so many things in the mail.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 12 September 2013, 03:10:01
Have everyone received their plate? I am still waiting on mind for over 2 months now, I am losing so many things in the mail.

I received mine within a couple days after they were shipped. You may have to talk to your post office about these problems, as I believe it shouldn't take this long, even for international shipments... :(
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: YongJK on Mon, 30 September 2013, 06:03:19
I am helping a person to switch plate.
His HPE casing is too tight to support this plate.
If I were to close the top with case,
it'd be like this.   :(

Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 30 September 2013, 07:09:01
cant you guys shave the sides either with Dremel or grinder + metal wheel?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: duq on Thu, 03 October 2013, 16:04:49
Have everyone received their plate? I am still waiting on mind for over 2 months now, I am losing so many things in the mail.

I received mine within a couple days after they were shipped. You may have to talk to your post office about these problems, as I believe it shouldn't take this long, even for international shipments... :(


If your plate was a "special" plate, not being ansi 125 or ansi 150, then it is most likely with Bavman who has yet to ship. In the phantom main thread, there is discussion about someone picking up the slack. Hopefully won't take too long from now.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: deSheol on Fri, 04 October 2013, 07:09:20
What happened to WFD? It has already been almost 2-3 month, and I still haven't got my plate, he never responded to PM too.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 04 October 2013, 07:13:56
What happened to WFD? It has already been almost 2-3 month, and I still haven't got my plate, he never responded to PM too.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48636.msg1058731
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: IonutZ on Sun, 06 October 2013, 13:57:56
Is there anywhere else where we can get a similar plate? I'm looking for a plate for my QFR but this is the only thread that pops up... Anyone selling a spare? :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 06 October 2013, 14:29:53
Is there anywhere else where we can get a similar plate? I'm looking for a plate for my QFR but this is the only thread that pops up... Anyone selling a spare? :)
You can start a thread in the classified section about buying plate, but you need to have 60 post first.
If you can wait Beast may do another plate buy soon.  You can found more details here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48334.0)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: S2000Gan on Wed, 23 October 2013, 17:51:06
I'm thinking of spray painting mine.
I'll look for the Dupli-color metal cast but if I cant find it I'll probably just use Krylon.
I dont think it will make the plate too think or anything.
Or I could just leave it be.
Anyone else have any input? Comments? Advice?

If I do paint it though,
Question is what to go with the Red LEDs on my Shine?
Red paint or Black?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 23 October 2013, 17:58:36
I'm thinking of spray painting mine.
I'll look for the Dupli-color metal cast but if I cant find it I'll probably just use Krylon.
I dont think it will make the plate too think or anything.
Or I could just leave it be.
Anyone else have any input? Comments? Advice?

If I do paint it though,
Question is what to go with the Red LEDs on my Shine?
Red paint or Black?


You should be able to find all the painting advice you need in the following thread.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44191.0
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: S2000Gan on Wed, 23 October 2013, 18:30:06
Thanks for the info!
If anyone else knows of any keep it coming! :D
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: gh_pp on Thu, 24 October 2013, 22:15:56
I missed this group by.

I want to mod my QFR but I don't want to desolder it multiple times.

If there is a 2nd round I'd get at least 3 ANSI 125 plates...
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: deSheol on Fri, 25 October 2013, 04:41:10
I missed this group by.

I want to mod my QFR but I don't want to desolder it multiple times.

If there is a 2nd round I'd get at least 3 ANSI 125 plates...

It's fine, it has been 3 months now and my plate still hasn't arrived yet, and WFD went 'busy'.  Good luck if you were to join one.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 11 January 2014, 12:09:00
Any chance for a second round from this?
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 12 January 2014, 04:58:08
I agree, I'm down for an awesome backplate :)
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: badboybry9000 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 08:33:27
I'm also hoping for a second round.
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 January 2014, 08:35:57
:facepalm:
Title: Re: [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 13 January 2014, 10:48:53
There was already a 2nd round in this very thread.  I don't think there will be a third round with the same person anyway.  Maybe someone else will eventually run another round.