looks like a clutch with a zipper or something. grooming kit? tablet? book cover? cheese storage?
looks like a clutch with a zipper or something. grooming kit? tablet? book cover? cheese storage?
Yup. It would even hold all your cheese knives very nicely.
Or is he holding the lady's purse?
Or perhaps it is a pencil case?
Or a fancy case for one of those huge Android phones?
iPad mini?
That's a Louis Vuitton zippy organizer in the classic monogram this is in the men's small leather goods section
Nothing wrong with big wallets ;<
Not a huge zipper fan but nothing wrong with a long wallet you either hold it, jacket pocket, or back pocket
Not a huge zipper fan but nothing wrong with a long wallet you either hold it, jacket pocket, or back pocket
you guys have HUGE back pockets.. If this thing fits.. I couldn't imagine you'd need it since you'd just load up that pocket to begin with :))
Not a huge zipper fan but nothing wrong with a long wallet you either hold it, jacket pocket, or back pocket
you guys have HUGE back pockets.. If this thing fits.. I couldn't imagine you'd need it since you'd just load up that pocket to begin with :))
Remember Sony Vaio P (http://internetsiao.com/sony-vaio-p-parody-fits-in-pocket/)?
I'm officially tired of prefixing everything with "man-". "Purse" needs to be reclaimed for dudes everywhere. If it's a little bag that you carry money and other small items, it's a purse.
Man purse, murse, "man bag", whatever... best euphemism to date describing it would have to be: "gear bag".
It's not a purse, it's a 'gear bag'.
its gay
its gay
wp sir, on second thought men should continue being insecure.
its gay
its gay
do you know that gay people are murdered every day specifically because of their homosexuality? beaten to death with sticks, rocks, bats? ridiculed and heckled and spit on and fired from their jobs specifically because of their homosexuality?
do you know what people are saying when they do this stuff to gay people? they're using 'gay' as a pejorative in EXACTLY the same way you are, and it doesn't matter if you didn't mean it with the same hatred, the same scorn or bile, because when you use that word like that, people that are victims of homophobia feel it the same way.
so will you please, for others' sake, not use that word like that?
its gay
do you know that gay people are murdered every day specifically because of their homosexuality? beaten to death with sticks, rocks, bats? ridiculed and heckled and spit on and fired from their jobs specifically because of their homosexuality?
do you know what people are saying when they do this stuff to gay people? they're using 'gay' as a pejorative in EXACTLY the same way you are, and it doesn't matter if you didn't mean it with the same hatred, the same scorn or bile, because when you use that word like that, people that are victims of homophobia feel it the same way.
so will you please, for others' sake, not use that word like that?
that must have been... fun :Pits gay
do you know that gay people are murdered every day specifically because of their homosexuality? beaten to death with sticks, rocks, bats? ridiculed and heckled and spit on and fired from their jobs specifically because of their homosexuality?
do you know what people are saying when they do this stuff to gay people? they're using 'gay' as a pejorative in EXACTLY the same way you are, and it doesn't matter if you didn't mean it with the same hatred, the same scorn or bile, because when you use that word like that, people that are victims of homophobia feel it the same way.
so will you please, for others' sake, not use that word like that?
While I agree with your comments and think you were VERY gentle, remember that people from many cultures visit this forum and some underdtandings and political correct statements in one country may mean absolutely nothing to others.
I remember when my wife first came to the US from Mexico. We were in Walmart looking at dishes. They were black in color. There were a bunch of african americans right next to us and my wife said, "I hate negro", which translates to black in Spanish.
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i still use gay and retarded, i'll be hanging with friends and if i see a neon yellow car go down the street, i'll be like "that's gay and retarded", i guess in a way it's pretty southern like, most of us grew up just calling things gay or retarded, oh yea i'm sure now i could replace retarded with stupid, like "oh that conservative republican is acting mightly stupid(retarded)", it doesn't have the same gumption, i guess it works, but man, what's a good replacement for gay?
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i still use gay and retarded, i'll be hanging with friends and if i see a neon yellow car go down the street, i'll be like "that's gay and retarded", i guess in a way it's pretty southern like, most of us grew up just calling things gay or retarded, oh yea i'm sure now i could replace retarded with stupid, like "oh that conservative republican is acting mightly stupid(retarded)", it doesn't have the same gumption, i guess it works, but man, what's a good replacement for gay?
I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage. i mean, for our honeymoon we went to italy, it was hot, and she's allergic to the sun, so she has to wear those woman sombero's (sun hat's?) one her head was just hot, and she was in the shade, so she just took it off and put it on my head to rest. she looked at me and said "wow that's pretty gay" and our friends laughed too (we went with friends).
I don't believe between the four of us using and hearing that word, that a homosexual was stoned that day because of it. And it's not like the bunch of us are intolerant either, 5 multicultral atheists on their way to the vatican, commenting on how gay i looked with a woman's hat on cuz my wife used me as a hat rack, isn't the worst way the word could be used. Heck our destination is more anti gay, than our use of the word gay.
I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage. i mean, for our honeymoon we went to italy, it was hot, and she's allergic to the sun, so she has to wear those woman sombero's (sun hat's?) one her head was just hot, and she was in the shade, so she just took it off and put it on my head to rest. she looked at me and said "wow that's pretty gay" and our friends laughed too (we went with friends).
I don't believe between the four of us using and hearing that word, that a homosexual was stoned that day because of it. And it's not like the bunch of us are intolerant either, 5 multicultral atheists on their way to the vatican, commenting on how gay i looked with a woman's hat on cuz my wife used me as a hat rack, isn't the worst way the word could be used. Heck our destination is more anti gay, than our use of the word gay.
I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage. i mean, for our honeymoon we went to italy, it was hot, and she's allergic to the sun, so she has to wear those woman sombero's (sun hat's?) one her head was just hot, and she was in the shade, so she just took it off and put it on my head to rest. she looked at me and said "wow that's pretty gay" and our friends laughed too (we went with friends).
I don't believe between the four of us using and hearing that word, that a homosexual was stoned that day because of it. And it's not like the bunch of us are intolerant either, 5 multicultral atheists on their way to the vatican, commenting on how gay i looked with a woman's hat on cuz my wife used me as a hat rack, isn't the worst way the word could be used. Heck our destination is more anti gay, than our use of the word gay.
Sorry, but you're still missing the point.
I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage.
I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage.
So if I grew up in the South when it was common to drop that colorful name for those of African descent, it would be okay for me to keep on going around saying that, because that's just how things were back then?
what? that i'm not in agreement with you? no i understand what these word police ppl are trying to get across, i understand it just fine, and while i believe the point is silly, i understand it. Just because someone doesn't agree with your point doesn't mean they don't understand.
i was waiting for this, that's entirely different, nigger (and i'm not being crass, that's the word in question, what am i gonna say n-word and make you think it in your head?) was always used as a way to catagorize a specific ppls, heck just watch django unchained. whereas gay was just used as a term to describe something silly or just not quite right.I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage.
So if I grew up in the South when it was common to drop that colorful name for those of African descent, it would be okay for me to keep on going around saying that, because that's just how things were back then?
Good point.
i already did, you just seem to want to have the last word at the dinner table.what? that i'm not in agreement with you? no i understand what these word police ppl are trying to get across, i understand it just fine, and while i believe the point is silly, i understand it. Just because someone doesn't agree with your point doesn't mean they don't understand.
Kindly restate it then.
it sounds like you're trying really hard to defend bigotry even after being told that it's not about your own perception of the effect.i was waiting for this, that's entirely different, nigger (and i'm not being crass, that's the word in question, what am i gonna say n-word and make you think it in your head?) was always used as a way to catagorize a specific ppls, heck just watch django unchained. whereas gay was just used as a term to describe something silly or just not quite right.I'm not "missing the point", it's that i don't believe there is a point to be made, legitimize what? to my wife and myself who believe that when we use the word gay, we're just describing something, cuz we both grew up using it in that usage.
So if I grew up in the South when it was common to drop that colorful name for those of African descent, it would be okay for me to keep on going around saying that, because that's just how things were back then?
Good point.
i mean, are we going to go to the point of saying that everytime a british person asks for a ***, and lights it up, it's just like the old salem witch trials and they're burning gays at the stake, just like the injustice that the witches felt? cuz their word for cigs is ***?i already did, you just seem to want to have the last word at the dinner table.what? that i'm not in agreement with you? no i understand what these word police ppl are trying to get across, i understand it just fine, and while i believe the point is silly, i understand it. Just because someone doesn't agree with your point doesn't mean they don't understand.
Kindly restate it then.
I agree with lanx here. Everyone here is looking at things from their own perspective and thinking that is just how it is. Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple.
I agree with lanx here. Everyone here is looking at things from their own perspective and thinking that is just how it is. Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple.
if it's that simple, then why is it so hard to avoid using words that mean much more offensive things to others than they do to you? what is the point of holding on to that language?
I agree with lanx here. Everyone here is looking at things from their own perspective and thinking that is just how it is. Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple.
if it's that simple, then why is it so hard to avoid using words that mean much more offensive things to others than they do to you? what is the point of holding on to that language?
i think i understand what you're saying but are you implying that we need to respect aspects of other cultures that are homophobic? this is clearly not a case of 'that word just means something different round these parts', it's a vilification of homosexuality.I agree with lanx here. Everyone here is looking at things from their own perspective and thinking that is just how it is. Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple.
if it's that simple, then why is it so hard to avoid using words that mean much more offensive things to others than they do to you? what is the point of holding on to that language?
I still don't think you are seeing it from their percpective. You are saying it is offensive, don't use it (and I agree, for me) but in their culture and daily communications it could be totally acceptable. They may not even understsnd your perspective and if you told them they would seem ignorant to you and say, why not, it is ok for us and we always say that, it means something else here.
I guess I just can't explain well what I want to say.
Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple. Don't think thst just because in this freaking liberal country that we live in where people get offended and go overboard that it is like that everywhere.
then that's why, you are a mindful person, as most are in circle of friends. no one is gonna "force the issue" or at most someone will quip up and say, "hey this might be a touchy subject for so and so,"and then ppl will be like "oh yea that's right! how careless of me".Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple. Don't think thst just because in this freaking liberal country that we live in where people get offended and go overboard that it is like that everywhere.
You're right. Words don't mean the same thing to everyone. That's why when I want to make offensive jokes, I make it in my circle of friends who I have known for many years. If I'm walking around and make a casual joke about rape, and it triggers a bad memory for someone who was a victim of such a heinous crime, is that person being too sensitive? No. How about someone who is homosexual and has been beaten for it, and had their traditional-family-values family abandon them as if they were nothing? Is "gay" still okay to joke about there?
I tried to make a couple of readable sentences above, please try to understand. If not I will be out of this "community" for good. I'm tired of this ****
i mean if we say that, why don't we start with like, not treating them like third class citizens?, why are debating about them over the dinner table? why is it that legalizing weed, is more of a reality than letting homosexuals get married?why not all of this AND we don't throw around gay as a pejorative?
Clearly you disagree with me, and that's fine. But the things you write lead me to believe that you're not grasping it.
Lanx, just ask yourself why you would choose to use this language in a derogatory way. Why not just be respectful of others? Why perpetuate stereotypes? Why are you doing it?whoever said i used it in a derogatory way?, i've always used it as descriptive. I don't go all westboro baptist on the word gay.
whoever said i used it in a derogatory way?, i've always used it as descriptive.
i still use gay and retarded, i'll be hanging with friends and if i see a neon yellow car go down the street, i'll be like "that's gay and retarded", i guess in a way it's pretty southern like, most of us grew up just calling things gay or retarded, oh yea i'm sure now i could replace retarded with stupid, like "oh that conservative republican is acting mightly stupid(retarded)", it doesn't have the same gumption, i guess it works, but man, what's a good replacement for gay?
I'm vocal about this because it harms human beings. Sorry if it's annoying. But seriously, give it some thought.maybe that's the issue at hand, is it more harmful to shove and force your view unto someone, in the misguided thinking that it will lead enlightenment? this sounds like those crazy door to door jesus ppl, jehovah witness', i listened to them when i was 10, i told my mom about it that night, she said, why! they're crazy, ignore them next time, and she's right, what kind of crazy nutjob goes door to door preaching about a zombie, and when a 10 year old answers the door, tries to convert him!
... but man, what's a good replacement for gay?
whoever said i used it in a derogatory way?, i've always used it as descriptive.
You did -- that's how this conversation started.i still use gay and retarded, i'll be hanging with friends and if i see a neon yellow car go down the street, i'll be like "that's gay and retarded", i guess in a way it's pretty southern like, most of us grew up just calling things gay or retarded, oh yea i'm sure now i could replace retarded with stupid, like "oh that conservative republican is acting mightly stupid(retarded)", it doesn't have the same gumption, i guess it works, but man, what's a good replacement for gay?
maybe that's the issue at hand, is it more harmful to shove and force your view unto someone, in the misguided thinking that it will lead enlightenment? this sounds like those crazy door to door jesus ppl, jehovah witness', i listened to them when i was 10, i told my mom about it that night, she said, why! they're crazy, ignore them next time, and she's right, what kind of crazy nutjob goes door to door preaching about a zombie, and when a 10 year old answers the door, tries to convert him!
i thought i was, i pointed out what the ulterior motive might be, and related a story when from i was a child (much like what i've been doing, since that's just what i've been doing.)maybe that's the issue at hand, is it more harmful to shove and force your view unto someone, in the misguided thinking that it will lead enlightenment? this sounds like those crazy door to door jesus ppl, jehovah witness', i listened to them when i was 10, i told my mom about it that night, she said, why! they're crazy, ignore them next time, and she's right, what kind of crazy nutjob goes door to door preaching about a zombie, and when a 10 year old answers the door, tries to convert him!
Are you against discussing this at all?
all joking aside though, i dont see what the issue is with what phetto said....this is something often used by gay men...he called it gay, straight men have an issue with being seen as gay or effeminate...ergo this bag is not a good thing for straight men who feel this way to wear or use.actually that's about it, was it in good form to use a term, that's currently commonly known to describe a group of ppl, and apply it to a description situation.
why would they defend something as being not gay if not, if they were indifferent they would not defend it.
Furthermore, phetto did not use the term derogatorily or even out of context. This bag is a bit gay, you would see a gay man with it.
Its different to him saying click clacks are gay or, that oak tree is gay.
- i do think it is silly and misinformed to call something completely random gay i.e a click clack or an oak tree.
and i do think it can lead to stigma, i do not think it is worth getting this worked up about, especially with language barriers in the way
I didn't take offense at phetto's original remark. That said, in context it was a rebuttal to what I had just finished pointing out which is that it's ridiculous that straight men are so terrified of appearing feminine in any way.yea, i'm using it in the way that it has descriptive properties, i didn't have nor do i, or probably will ever have harmful intent towards a group of ppl. But i don't need to be told, that if i use it in my way, some other person, that thinks in their way of it, means that it leads to condemnation, being forcefed or preached to, this is your type of thinking, i don't have to believe in your way.
I took Lanx's original post about gay and retarded to mean that he uses both to mean stupid or lame. Both gay and retarded were commonly used in that way where I grew up, and I'm sure it's the same where Lanx is from regardless of whether he himself uses gay to mean lame. In any case, that is the context in which we have been arguing.
I didn't take offense at phetto's original remark. That said, in context it was a rebuttal to what I had just finished pointing out which is that it's ridiculous that straight men are so terrified of appearing feminine in any way.But i don't need to be told, that if i use it in my way, some other person, that thinks in their way of it, means that it leads to condemnation, being forcefed or preached to,
I took Lanx's original post about gay and retarded to mean that he uses both to mean stupid or lame. Both gay and retarded were commonly used in that way where I grew up, and I'm sure it's the same where Lanx is from regardless of whether he himself uses gay to mean lame. In any case, that is the context in which we have been arguing.
i think i understand what you're saying but are you implying that we need to respect aspects of other cultures that are homophobic? this is clearly not a case of 'that word just means something different round these parts', it's a vilification of homosexuality.I agree with lanx here. Everyone here is looking at things from their own perspective and thinking that is just how it is. Words just don't mean the same thing to everyone. It's that simple.
if it's that simple, then why is it so hard to avoid using words that mean much more offensive things to others than they do to you? what is the point of holding on to that language?
I still don't think you are seeing it from their percpective. You are saying it is offensive, don't use it (and I agree, for me) but in their culture and daily communications it could be totally acceptable. They may not even understsnd your perspective and if you told them they would seem ignorant to you and say, why not, it is ok for us and we always say that, it means something else here.
I guess I just can't explain well what I want to say.
You're missing the point. It's not just the pain that gay people feel when they hear you say it; it's that when you use it in that way you're projecting to everyone who hears it that it's ok to make fun of gay people. Including your wife. Including your straight buddies. Including yourself.
do you know that gay people are murdered every day specifically because of their homosexuality? beaten to death with sticks, rocks, bats? ridiculed and heckled and spit on and fired from their jobs specifically because of their homosexuality?are they ever sodomized with retractable batons?
My gay friends call me (and themselves) a f****t all the time, and I'm straight. Lol.
Seems like nobody liked my idea of just leaving people alone and moving on with their lives. And now you understand Geekhack in a nutshell.
My gay friends call me (and themselves) a f****t all the time, and I'm straight. Lol.
Seems like nobody liked my idea of just leaving people alone and moving on with their lives. And now you understand Geekhack in a nutshell.
Why are you so "sure".. maybe you are a f**got, and only a full f**got could tell, because you're in denial.