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Title: Some IBM rarities
Post by: RougeR on Fri, 29 March 2013, 12:06:46: rack mounted buckling spring
i think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-MINI-IBM-Tastatur-Model-M-Mechanical-Clicky-Buckling-Spring-Keyboard-/181110312203?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2a2b040d0b

industrial silver label
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Industrial-Keyboard-Gray-Olive-Case-1390653-Dec-1-1988-/121086029994?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1c314a30aa
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 29 March 2013, 20:30:27: how about these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Industrial-NON-CLICKY-PC-Keyboard-with-Attached-Cord-WORKS-CLEAN-w-box-/251251795062?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3a7fc62476

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-IBM-6247440-Keyboard-for-5086-Processor-/121087658489?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1c316309f9
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 29 March 2013, 20:39:58: whaaaat, I've never seen a rack mount model m before...
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:00:17: Quote from: JesuswasaZombie on Fri, 29 March 2013, 20:39:58
whaaaat, I've never seen a rack mount model m before...
green alps I believe
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: RougeR on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:09:57: saw the industrrial pcjr look a like, domes i think
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:13:52: Who got the prototopre?
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:15:57: HaaTa.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: RougeR on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:22:09: what on earth is it
New IBM 6247440 Keyboard for 5086 Processor
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:53:51: Quote from: RougeR on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:22:09
what on earth is it
New IBM 6247440 Keyboard for 5086 Processor
and you call yourself buckling springs warrior huh!!! lol have no clue dude, might be BS, might be alps, might be rubber dome.... need to ask the seller if its clicky, but even rubber domes make some sort of click... and if seller have no clue of mech boards he will tell you YES it clicks!!!! see the XT industrial link, seller have knowledge and he says its not clicky = rubber dome :)
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 30 March 2013, 12:19:47: Quote from: bazemk1979 on Fri, 29 March 2013, 20:30:27
how about these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Industrial-NON-CLICKY-PC-Keyboard-with-Attached-Cord-WORKS-CLEAN-w-box-/251251795062?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3a7fc62476
Saw this when it was first posted on ebay. I believe it's the same as webwit'- so-called "frankenboard". It'd be good to swap the guts out of a real XT into it.
http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_industrial/xt/

At a guess, it's probably either acer-like spring over membrane or capacitive foam/foil.

I've been doing a ton of IBM research lately, so just thought I'd share.
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Blazemk, that "IBM 6247440 Keyboard for 5086 Processor" keyboard is almost certainly "prototopre". The keyboards for the IBM 5085 GPU (1983) were capacitive BS, and the keyboard for the 5086 (1986, just before the RS/6000 series) is prototopre. Also, looking at the key legends in the picture, it's the same as both the "prototopre" 'boards I've seen.

Do I call myself a "buckling spring warrior" ? No. But I have done my homework, especially as far as these IBM CAD workstation keyboards go.

Also: another teaser. There's right now a very interesting IBM keyboard on eBay that you missed. I have it, and will be taking better pictures of, and will be documenting.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 30 March 2013, 12:22:31: someone should pick up that F-alike. capacitive foam/oil would be super cool to see the internals of.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: RougeR on Tue, 02 April 2013, 20:20:11: id do it but shipping is murder to the uk
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: digi on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:25:17: There is a very cool looking IBM 6247440 on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-IBM-6247440-Keyboard-for-5086-Processor-/121184199564?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1c3724238c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-IBM-6247440-Keyboard-for-5086-Processor-/121184199564?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1c3724238c), I know nothing about them but found someone's Flickr album on them here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaata/sets/72157643179098933/page1/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaata/sets/72157643179098933/page1/).

Very tempted to try the IBM Cupped Rubber, anyone have more information on these? This thread that I've posted in is all I could find.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:52:41: They look like Topre rubber domes. Is it also capacitive? I think I'm going to buy it and see what's up.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:11:39: Never mind. I looked at the pictures, and I don't believe it to be capacitive. It seems the pit in the middle of the rubber is what presses the two matrix sheets together to make contact.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:14:03: Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:11:39
Never mind. I looked at the pictures, and I don't believe it to be capacitive. It seems the pit in the middle of the rubber is what presses the two matrix sheets together to make contact.

I~~t's a "prototopre"~~ with the blue and green dye-subbing.

Works with a soarer converter IIRC.

edit: HaaTa has spoken these are newer than the capacitive variety.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: digi on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:16:31: Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:52:41
They look like Topre rubber domes. Is it also capacitive? I think I'm going to buy it and see what's up.

I have no idea if they're capacitive or not, I would also really like to know. It appears that there is no cable included with the keyboard and I'm not sure if it speaks ps/2 or what.
Title: Re: Some IBM rarities
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 17 May 2014, 18:27:48: Quote from: digi on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:16:31
Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:52:41
They look like Topre rubber domes. Is it also capacitive? I think I'm going to buy it and see what's up.

I have no idea if they're capacitive or not, I would also really like to know. It appears that there is no cable included with the keyboard and I'm not sure if it speaks ps/2 or what.

should speak IBM RT protocol and work with a soarer.

These are the newer versions of the prototopre keyboards. The fun legends are for graphics / CAD workstation use