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Title: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:02:30
My patience threshold is  500 [KB] / s

Anything slower, and I attempt hold my breath to make it go m0re fast.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:04:29
More patient than I.  750kb/sec
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:04:47
The real question...

How slow is too slow for a CF sale???
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:06:02
The *real* question is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:11:05
The really real question...

Wtf is a klaxon?
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:11:48
It's a siren.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:14:16
Wait a klaxon is a real thing?
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:14:44
Why do you think my avatar is a horn?
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:16:45
Wow I feel really dumb right now.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 April 2013, 01:49:48
you guys are doing something 'wrong'
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Grim Fandango on Mon, 22 April 2013, 01:54:27
More patient than I.  750kb/sec

I am the same. The more you get used to higher speeds, the less tolerant you get. I remember when it was normal to wait for a page to load when using a browser. That would now drive me insane. I can not even deal with it on my phone.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 April 2013, 02:08:37
More patient than I.  750kb/sec

I am the same. The more you get used to higher speeds, the less tolerant you get. I remember when it was normal to wait for a page to load when using a browser. That would now drive me insane. I can not even deal with it on my phone.

Mobile internet... just kill me...
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:56:51
Speed is like a drug, alcohol or nicotine addiction the more you get the more you need! Having the fastest connection and losing it is worse than never having it at all, for me anyhow.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:17:47
More patient than I.  750kb/sec

I am the same. The more you get used to higher speeds, the less tolerant you get. I remember when it was normal to wait for a page to load when using a browser. That would now drive me insane. I can not even deal with it on my phone.

Mobile internet... just kill me...

That's why I refuse to get anything under lte 4g heh.

Everything else is too slow.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: RougeR on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:19:20
lol i rarely see above 750kb/s ever.

i upgraded from 2mbps line to a 8mpbs line a year ago.....then finally to a 16mbps last month. service has always been ****e up untill now, anything over 250kbps is fine with me atm.
jeeze patience guys.

i gamed on a 2mbps line and have experienced 1000ms+ pings consistently...i am the master of patience
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:33:22
This is now a speedtest thread.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2662857777.png)

It's a damn shame my upload sucks.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: RougeR on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:38:02
hokay, i pay for 16, get 14ish most of the time, but sometimes way under. im happy, but if i upload anything, my ping goes to hell.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2662866213.png)
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:01:39
The only problem with Comcast is you can't get good torrent speeds because of the active throttling on anything Torrent.

I feel bad for kids in areas where there's only comcast, and they want to torrent.

It not only throttles the connection, but it adds tremendous latency doing so.

I was getting 1000ms ping in-game while torrenting.. but on fios, at worst it's 130ping on the same server.

Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: damorgue on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:14:18
Speed is like a drug, alcohol or nicotine addiction the more you get the more you need! Having the fastest connection and losing it is worse than never having it at all, for me anyhow.

True. I fear the day I have to move, although it will probably never be as bad as what you guys seem to have it in the US.

Edit: Clarification, I am currently on 950/750
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:08:25
The only problem with Comcast is you can't get good torrent speeds because of the active throttling on anything Torrent.

I feel bad for kids in areas where there's only comcast, and they want to torrent.

It not only throttles the connection, but it adds tremendous latency doing so.

I was getting 1000ms ping in-game while torrenting.. but on fios, at worst it's 130ping on the same server.
Thats why I only torrent at night.  Lately I haven't been torrenting anything since the guy I usually torrent from hasn't uploaded any more seasons of dbz.  Got to the end of Trunks and am waiting x.x
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:13:16
How slow is too slow? It's too slow if you have to pause for a stream to load on YouTube/Netflix/etc.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:28:13
How slow is too slow? It's too slow if you have to pause for a stream to load on YouTube/Netflix/etc.

The worst, is when it teases you, you get like a good 15 seconds of smooth playback, and then STOP... and you're like, fffff
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: phetto on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:29:26
5mb/s is too slow
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:36:42
How slow is too slow? It's too slow if you have to pause for a stream to load on YouTube/Netflix/etc.
I get throttled hard during peak hours and have to do this.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: L4yercake on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:38:45
(http://i33.tinypic.com/oqyhk9.png)

SmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFry

I need to figure out the KMAC programming  :))

Fun fact Youtube doesn't load videos for me.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:41:22
Show Image
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SmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFry

I need to figure out the KMAC programming  :))

Fun fact Youtube doesn't load videos for me.

what? why?
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:42:10
Show Image
(http://i33.tinypic.com/oqyhk9.png)


SmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFrySmallFry

I need to figure out the KMAC programming  :))

Fun fact Youtube doesn't load videos for me.

what? why?
Throttling, ****ed up DNS, there could be many reasons.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:46:00
i pay for 30/30 so i am impressed Verizon has thrown in the extra 10/10 for the last year

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665425989.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

but what is intolerable?

sprint data, everything about it.

no 4G love in virginia and barely any 4G coverage when i go on trips to dc and atlanta where i need to tether.

anything below 1Mbit on a phone is intolerable and too slow
anything below 5Mbit on a desktop is intolerable and too slow
anything below 30Mbit is too slow for leeching stuff
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:56:02
i pay for 30/30 so i am impressed Verizon has thrown in the extra 10/10 for the last year

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665425989.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

but what is intolerable?

sprint data, everything about it.

no 4G love in virginia and barely any 4G coverage when i go on trips to dc and atlanta where i need to tether.

anything below 1Mbit on a phone is intolerable and too slow
anything below 5Mbit on a desktop is intolerable and too slow
anything below 30Mbit is too slow for leeching stuff

I pay Comcast for 20/4.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665443037.png)
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Binge on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:56:25
10 wpm... to slow
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: phetto on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:56:47
So I tried the speedtest site and I only got ~50mb/s upload from that site, which is weird, I did another test at another site and I got ~90 up.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665442027.png)
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:23:19
I'm so jealous...  I'm about to call Comcast about my upload.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:51:33
i pay for 30/30 so i am impressed Verizon has thrown in the extra 10/10 for the last year

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665425989.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

but what is intolerable?

sprint data, everything about it.

no 4G love in virginia and barely any 4G coverage when i go on trips to dc and atlanta where i need to tether.

anything below 1Mbit on a phone is intolerable and too slow
anything below 5Mbit on a desktop is intolerable and too slow
anything below 30Mbit is too slow for leeching stuff

I pay Comcast for 20/4.

Show Image
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665443037.png)


ha, had similar up/down speeds with COX last year before i left the DC area. Was paying for 25Mbit and was getting well over 110Mbit down, i never complained lol, it was fun at that speed. Cable internet has improved significantly over the last few years. i remember only getting 15Mbit in atlanta only 4 years ago.

feel sorry for anyone getting less than 30.....
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: sth on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:57:16
except for big file downloads and occasional streaming hiccups i can do just fine with 1.5mbps, and probably even less depending on the content.

and for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:57:57
i pay for 30/30 so i am impressed Verizon has thrown in the extra 10/10 for the last year

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665425989.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

but what is intolerable?

sprint data, everything about it.

no 4G love in virginia and barely any 4G coverage when i go on trips to dc and atlanta where i need to tether.

anything below 1Mbit on a phone is intolerable and too slow
anything below 5Mbit on a desktop is intolerable and too slow
anything below 30Mbit is too slow for leeching stuff

I pay Comcast for 20/4.

Show Image
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2665443037.png)


ha, had similar up/down speeds with COX last year before i left the DC area. Was paying for 25Mbit and was getting well over 110Mbit down, i never complained lol, leeching was fun at that speed. Cable internet has improved significantly over the last few years. i remember only getting 15Mbit in atlanta only 4 years ago.

feel sorry for anyone getting less than 30.....

wtf really?  if you actually utilized the 100 though, they'd prob catch on pretty quick.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:06:02
wtf really?  if you actually utilized the 100 though, they'd prob catch on pretty quick.

i always use a SSL L2TP/IPSec VPN to avoid any sort of traffic monitoring and it seemed to work because for the year i was in the DC area i didn't get one complaint/letter/notice from COX and Verizon has never said anything either. could be just luck but VPN is a good idea no matter what you do on the web.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: sth on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:07:26
wtf really?  if you actually utilized the 100 though, they'd prob catch on pretty quick.

i always use a SSL L2TP/IPSec VPN to avoid any sort of traffic monitoring and it seemed to work because for the year i was in the DC area i didn't get one complaint/letter/notice from COX and Verizon has never said anything either. could be just luck but VPN is a good idea no matter what you do on the web.
agreed on VPNs being good no matter what, but they can still see your bandwidth usage and throttle you if you overuse.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:08:25
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: lazerpointer on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:20:01
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.

Edit;
one would think a VPN service actually eats up more data, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: sth on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:22:14
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.
Generally you get throttled for torrenting because it exhibits specific traffic patterns. If that's all coming down through one connection (your VPN) rather than a bunch of concurrent connections (direct connection to peers) then it doesn't look like torrent traffic to your ISP.
AFAIK most ISPs don't throttle VPN traffic specifically but that can fall under overuse restrictions, like if you're downloading a ton at once or you have a soft cap on your connection.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:22:16
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:23:11
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.
Generally you get throttled for torrenting because it exhibits specific traffic patterns. If that's all coming down through one connection (your VPN) rather than a bunch of concurrent connections (direct connection to peers) then it doesn't look like torrent traffic to your ISP.
AFAIK most ISPs don't throttle VPN traffic specifically but that can fall under overuse restrictions, like if you're downloading a ton at once or you have a soft cap on your connection.

trust me, they know it's torrents.

You can't hide anything from the isp
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:23:36
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...
You can't go to jail for pirating.  It is a civil crime.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:24:27
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...
You can't go to jail for pirating.  It is a civil crime.

nuh un.. i've never nixed nothing from the internet.. except napster back in the day.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:26:04
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...
You can't go to jail for pirating.  It is a civil crime.

nuh un.. i've never nixed nothing from the internet.. except napster back in the day.
What?
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: lazerpointer on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:27:24
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.
Generally you get throttled for torrenting because it exhibits specific traffic patterns. If that's all coming down through one connection (your VPN) rather than a bunch of concurrent connections (direct connection to peers) then it doesn't look like torrent traffic to your ISP.
AFAIK most ISPs don't throttle VPN traffic specifically but that can fall under overuse restrictions, like if you're downloading a ton at once or you have a soft cap on your connection.

Informative, thanks sth.

I still think it would be logical for big companies like Verizon to ONLY worry about how much data is being used.

If you think about it from a business perspective, it would cost much more effort / man hours to decide whether or not the large volume of data being downloaded was legal or not...
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:38:00
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.
Generally you get throttled for torrenting because it exhibits specific traffic patterns. If that's all coming down through one connection (your VPN) rather than a bunch of concurrent connections (direct connection to peers) then it doesn't look like torrent traffic to your ISP.
AFAIK most ISPs don't throttle VPN traffic specifically but that can fall under overuse restrictions, like if you're downloading a ton at once or you have a soft cap on your connection.

Informative, thanks sth.

I still think it would be logical for big companies like Verizon to ONLY worry about how much data is being used.

If you think about it from a business perspective, it would cost much more effort / man hours to decide whether or not the large volume of data being downloaded was legal or not...

We are very lucky that there's competition for ISP-s, whoever is more lenient get's the customers..
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: sth on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:40:35
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.
Generally you get throttled for torrenting because it exhibits specific traffic patterns. If that's all coming down through one connection (your VPN) rather than a bunch of concurrent connections (direct connection to peers) then it doesn't look like torrent traffic to your ISP.
AFAIK most ISPs don't throttle VPN traffic specifically but that can fall under overuse restrictions, like if you're downloading a ton at once or you have a soft cap on your connection.

trust me, they know it's torrents.

You can't hide anything from the isp
they can't prove it if you're encrypted and your vpn provider doesn't play. that doesn't mean you won't still get throttled.

Flip -- you're not wrong, and normally that's all they care about. Copyright law is a big part of what sets precedents for monitoring and throttling of specific traffic patterns, but any users saturating their connections (especially with a bunch of concurrent connections instead of one) are subject to inspection / throttling if it hurts the rest of the subscribers.
Clear loooooooooooooooooooooooves throttling based on traffic type / packet inspection but going through a VPN they hardly bat an eye.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:45:43
I prefer to have at least 3 to 5 MBps down, at least 1 up for average use.

for those complaining about throttling, do u even cheap vpn service? i pay less than 10 extra bucks a month for vpn with tons of different exit nodes.

I thought VPN could only hide WHAT you were downloading... not IF you're downloading?

Packets sent and received, whether encrypted or not, are still packets / data.
Generally you get throttled for torrenting because it exhibits specific traffic patterns. If that's all coming down through one connection (your VPN) rather than a bunch of concurrent connections (direct connection to peers) then it doesn't look like torrent traffic to your ISP.
AFAIK most ISPs don't throttle VPN traffic specifically but that can fall under overuse restrictions, like if you're downloading a ton at once or you have a soft cap on your connection.

trust me, they know it's torrents.

You can't hide anything from the isp
they can't prove it if you're encrypted and your vpn provider doesn't play. that doesn't mean you won't still get throttled.

Flip -- you're not wrong, and normally that's all they care about. Copyright law is a big part of what sets precedents for monitoring and throttling of specific traffic patterns, but any users saturating their connections (especially with a bunch of concurrent connections instead of one) are subject to inspection / throttling if it hurts the rest of the subscribers.
Clear loooooooooooooooooooooooves throttling based on traffic type / packet inspection but going through a VPN they hardly bat an eye.

"IF" your vpn doesn't play...

i don't have alotta faith in the low cost vpn not outing me for my measly $10 / month
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:51:53
Wow I feel really dumb right now.
LMAO!
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:03:41
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...

those were the old days, when you are poor and feel like it is the only option.

now i just stream tons of stuff and my wife goes crazy on itunes. it still eats a lot of traffic.

with all the HD streaming services like netflix, amazon, hulu, spotify, hbogo, pandora, etc i havent seen a need to do that stuff

plus you got steam and other game stuff, when i had a fresh install i found myself downloading 150GB of just game stuff in just a couple days times.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:07:03
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...

those were the old days, when you are poor and feel like it is the only option.

now i just stream tons of stuff and my wife goes crazy on itunes. it still eats a lot of traffic.

with all the HD streaming services like netflix, amazon, hulu, spotify, hbogo, pandora, etc i havent seen a need to do that stuff

plus you got steam and other game stuff, when i had a fresh install i found myself downloading 150GB of just game stuff in just a couple days times.

is there a streaming service yet that does full bitrate blurays...
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:14:46
i guess i have just been lucky  :-X

now we've jinxed it, enjoy prison and your 3 square meals a day, exercise facility, and psychiatric hardening...

those were the old days, when you are poor and feel like it is the only option.

now i just stream tons of stuff and my wife goes crazy on itunes. it still eats a lot of traffic.

with all the HD streaming services like netflix, amazon, hulu, spotify, hbogo, pandora, etc i havent seen a need to do that stuff

plus you got steam and other game stuff, when i had a fresh install i found myself downloading 150GB of just game stuff in just a couple days times.

is there a streaming service yet that does full bitrate blurays...

i haven't found the need
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:19:55
I buy CDs then download them as flac via torrents :P  I'm lazy like that.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:26:27
I buy CDs then download them as flac via torrents :P  I'm lazy like that.

but... what? why?  There's no way your computer can't convert the CD in the time it takes to "find + download" the disk.

I mean.. it'd have to be a really really slow computer
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:35:53
I buy CDs then download them as flac via torrents :P  I'm lazy like that.

but... what? why?  There's no way your computer can't convert the CD in the time it takes to "find + download" the disk.

I mean.. it'd have to be a really really slow computer

About 2-3 minutes to "find+download".  Like 10-15 minutes to rip from CD.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:38:37
It doesn't ever get fast enough. Whatever you got, you probably want more. Isn't that human nature?
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2663049611.png
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: sth on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:48:51
doesn't count if your ISP runs a speedtest  server or peers with someone who does :P
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: phetto on Wed, 24 April 2013, 02:16:05
It doesn't ever get fast enough. Whatever you got, you probably want more. Isn't that human nature?
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2663049611.png

cant count your school dude!!
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 02:19:35
doesn't count if your ISP runs a speedtest  server or peers with someone who does :P

Hmm..... I don't think they would, even if they did, it's not like they could get away with giving any one who  "cares" less bandwidth..

I would immediately know if something is slower than the claim.. :D
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:39:29
That is my home connection, and I picked a server in another country
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: bw on Thu, 25 April 2013, 02:08:32
Are there any speedtest servers with more than gigabit ethernet?

And there are VPN providers that aren't required to (and don't) keep logs.  Even better, ones that put you behind NAT.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 28 April 2013, 11:31:05
but... what? why?  There's no way your computer can't convert the CD in the time it takes to "find + download" the disk.

I mean.. it'd have to be a really really slow computer

About 2-3 minutes to "find+download".  Like 10-15 minutes to rip from CD.
Either you've got a sucky optical drive or something's set up wrong. A typical CD takes about 3-4 minutes to rip here, and that's with read speed limited to 24X (the minimal saved time at 32X never is never worth additional wear and noise). EAC using AccurateRip + CTDB, so assuming everything's fine I can use burst mode and get a perfectly fine rip. Occasionally I'll have to re-rip a track or two in secure mode, but that doesn't take ages either.

Granted, my drives definitely do not suck when it comes to reading audio CDs (Optiarc DDU-1671S and LG BH10LS38). Slimline drives can be pretty horrible. (Of course, as if to prove me wrong, the TSST TS-U633J in my work notebook seems to have pretty darn good CD reading abilities. Then again, this one hasn't seen more than a handful of discs in its life.)

You have to be careful with CD rips from dubious sources. Apparently there's enough jokesters willing to upload FLAC versions transcoded from MP3s or other lossy sources.

We're currently on a 16 Mbit down / 1 Mbit up connection, though download is currently limited to 5 Mbits as that seems to be the limit for our trusty 12-year-old DSL router with 10 Mbit WAN. Anyway, it's fast enough. That connection usually isn't the bottleneck anyway - not infrequently a Youtube vid won't even load fast enough for 360p.
Title: Re: How slow is too slow
Post by: naokira on Sun, 28 April 2013, 12:02:00
You guys... talking about 40mb up, whereas my speed all my internet life was 1mb down 0.5mb up. :(

Sadder thread than post your korean keyboard  :(