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Title: GDI, Originative's maybe coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 03:01:54
https://www.originativeco.com/store

I even put in the order already, now what do I do...

grrr........ >:D
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 05:58:36
Quote
Hello Geekhackers,

I am very sorry about my disappearance.  I have been quite busy with many family troubles.  The PayPal troubles and the Credit Card troubles also gave me a bunch of headaches.
Everything with my family is getting better, and the web-site finally works better.  There are still some issues, but they will be fixed in time.
I am posting the Ski Data set this week.  I am getting 5 new springs.  Dolch and 5 new sets are being manufactured right now.  If there are problem with your
orders, then please e-mail me at sheraton@originativeco.com.
The rest of the Sanctuary keysets arrive this week.  I have to package them myself, and I will ship the rest.  I believe there are about 10 more people that has not
received them.

If you are planning to purchase from our store, then please send me an e-mail with the Order No. as the title.  In the summary, please post the shipping address and the order.

Thanks,

Sheraton
I sure hope its coming back, or sherry is gonna be swimming in a pile of expensive keycaps.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: jabar on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:06:12
How long ago was that message?

If he was more open about his commercial aspirations and the whole GMK mess he'd be in a much better rep position now.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:07:12
How long ago was that message?

If he was more open about his commercial aspirations and the whole GMK mess he'd be in a much better rep position now.
That was actually just a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:11:49
Sure want a set of dolch caps when he gets them in :)
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:05:07
I just don't understand why he's not here on GH,

it'd be so quick to say.. stuff's coming.. and send out a mass email to everyone who ordered said stuff.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: emptythecache on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:18:29
He did comment a couple days ago, he just wasn't all that specific. I think this is actually a good thing, he's doing what we asked: dealing with his outstanding orders without taking on new ones. It might take him longer than he thinks and ski data might not come out until next week or the one after, but if he can get unburied by outstanding orders he'll be better able to service us in the long run.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:20:51
He did comment a couple days ago, he just wasn't all that specific. I think this is actually a good thing, he's doing what we asked: dealing with his outstanding orders without taking on new ones. It might take him longer than he thinks and ski data might not come out until next week or the one after, but if he can get unburied by outstanding orders he'll be better able to service us in the long run.

how many outstanding are we talking here..
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:45:05
He did comment a couple days ago, he just wasn't all that specific. I think this is actually a good thing, he's doing what we asked: dealing with his outstanding orders without taking on new ones. It might take him longer than he thinks and ski data might not come out until next week or the one after, but if he can get unburied by outstanding orders he'll be better able to service us in the long run.

how many outstanding are we talking here..
Koreans...
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Batmann on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:56:12
Sherry looks like a busy man,
I'm impressed by the 5 sets coming, if they all from GMK and if MOQ is still 400 that makes 2000 sets for a total of 160 000$ (considering 80$ per set)
That is some commitment
I hope his business is gonna get off the ground but I can't help thinking it will need to be hell smoother
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: mashby on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:41:19
I'm guessing that the web designer hasn't been paid.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Batmann on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:49:04
lol  :))


that's a possibility!
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:54:21
I'm guessing that the web designer hasn't been paid.

Or the web hosting company. 
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: mashby on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:55:34
I'm guessing that the web designer hasn't been paid.

Or the web hosting company.

Nah, HostGator would have done a re-direct to one of their pages.  ;D
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:01:07
Not surprised, their website was total ****, even after "fixing ssl".

It had items called "Do not Buy" and multiples.

I offered help for a trade, and then for free and he didn't seem to want any.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:08:59
Not surprised, their website was total ****, even after "fixing ssl".

It had items called "Do not Buy" and multiples.

I offered help for a trade, and then for free and he didn't seem to want any.
Doesn't really matter.  He will always get sales as long as he has stuff nobody has (allegedly SkiData and Dolch)
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:38:03
Yes but hopefully he gets everything working smoothly, then I think he would sell the most caps out of anyone.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tribade on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:26:47
Okay, noobie here so pardon what must be an often-asked question, but is originative the only way to get KMAC boards?  He seems to be the only vendor I've seen and unfortunately I've been bitten by the Korean Board Bug  :(
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: keymaster on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:40:59
Originativeco.com was up yesterday or the day before. He made a post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg864403#msg864403) yesterday detailing how he's going to be putting up new products. That probably explains the website downtime.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: dante on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:57:03
Why not unload all the stuff on ebay?  Sure they take their cut but it has to be much simpler than reinventing the wheel.
Title: Re: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:59:50
Sherry looks like a busy man,
I'm impressed by the 5 sets coming, if they all from GMK and if MOQ is still 400 that makes 2000 sets for a total of 160 000$ (considering 80$ per set)
That is some commitment
I hope his business is gonna get off the ground but I can't help thinking it will need to be hell smoother

He already said he's getting a few Imsto thick PBT sets, so some of the five could very well be these.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:15:48
Why not unload all the stuff on ebay?  Sure they take their cut but it has to be much simpler than reinventing the wheel.

Ebay fees and the fact that his paypal isn't working....
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:18:59
Why not unload all the stuff on ebay?  Sure they take their cut but it has to be much simpler than reinventing the wheel.

Ebay fees and the fact that his paypal isn't working....

Sounds like he's managed to replicate most of the small-business issues all at once.  Cash flow, vendor bills, shipping costs, web presence overhead, etc.

He needs someone to run his business for him. 
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:19:50
So... It's "still going to happen" in what a month?

the springs I ordered? :D
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:28:15
So... It's "still going to happen" in what a month?

the springs I ordered? :D

By the time the springs arrive you'll have forgotten what you were going to use them for.   :p

Seriously, just do what I do.  Shovel a bunch of money out via Paypal, and check the mail every day.  Stuff will roll in days, weeks, months after you ordered it, so much that you've always got six projects going at any given time.  You'll get stuff in the mail you'll have completely forgotten you'd ordered.  Kind of like Christmas, several times a year.

You've got over 3000 posts on GH alone, so I'm sure you know all of this already.



Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:28:34
I would take his words with a grain of salt right now. That update seems like an obligatory response, but I feel there is much more that he hasn't said. He announced a lot more new products, yet still backlogged with tons of issues and transactions to take care of.

Common sense would tell you to wait until he gets all old problems resolved before throwing more money at him, which will only compound his workload.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:36:39
I would take his words with a grain of salt right now. That update seems like an obligatory response, but I feel there is much more that he hasn't said. He announced a lot more new products, yet still backlogged with tons of issues and transactions to take care of.

Common sense would tell you to wait until he gets all old problems resolved before throwing more money at him, which will only compound his workload.

hm... i just checked my bills, he hasn't billed me... so... Damn it wfd, sell me "some of those springs" why don't ya..
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:37:00
I would take his words with a grain of salt right now. That update seems like an obligatory response, but I feel there is much more that he hasn't said. He announced a lot more new products, yet still backlogged with tons of issues and transactions to take care of.

Common sense would tell you to wait until he gets all old problems resolved before throwing more money at him, which will only compound his workload.

Excellent point, WFD.  I realized after re-reading my post that I missed one important caveat.  The shoveling of money reference?  That was meant to refer to multiple vendors/private parties, not to Sherryton.  I've got stuff on order from a Taobao agent, a box of stuff from EU eBay being collected in Berlin by a proxy buyer from DT, multiple group buys from around the US, and those are just the purchases I remember. 

Ironically, I don't think I've ever ordered from Originative.  I registered with GH shortly before Sherryton posted his web store page, and the only communication I had with him was a question from me about how many springs were included in the single price.  Never got a response, so I never ordered.   :))

Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:39:11
I would take his words with a grain of salt right now. That update seems like an obligatory response, but I feel there is much more that he hasn't said. He announced a lot more new products, yet still backlogged with tons of issues and transactions to take care of.

Common sense would tell you to wait until he gets all old problems resolved before throwing more money at him, which will only compound his workload.

Excellent point, WFD.  I realized after re-reading my post that I missed one important caveat.  The shoveling of money reference?  That was meant to refer to multiple vendors/private parties, not to Sherryton.  I've got stuff on order from a Taobao agent, a box of stuff from EU eBay being collected in Berlin by a proxy buyer from DT, multiple group buys from around the US, and those are just the purchases I remember. 

Ironically, I don't think I've ever ordered from Originative.  I registered with GH shortly before Sherryton posted his web store page, and the only communication I had with him was a question from me about how many springs were included in the single price.  Never got a response, so I never ordered.   :))



sigh..............
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 25 April 2013, 01:51:04
hm... i just checked my bills, he hasn't billed me... so... Damn it wfd, sell me "some of those springs" why don't ya..

Oh man, did I ever tell you how great these springs are? I sport them on all my personal keyboards, as well as all the ones I build for people. Truly a must-have item.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 25 April 2013, 02:07:21
hm... i just checked my bills, he hasn't billed me... so... Damn it wfd, sell me "some of those springs" why don't ya..

Oh man, did I ever tell you how great these springs are? I sport them on all my personal keyboards, as well as all the ones I build for people. Truly a must-have item.
:))
Which springs? 62s?
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 April 2013, 02:08:43
hm... i just checked my bills, he hasn't billed me... so... Damn it wfd, sell me "some of those springs" why don't ya..

Oh man, did I ever tell you how great these springs are? I sport them on all my personal keyboards, as well as all the ones I build for people. Truly a must-have item.
:))
Which springs? 62s?

he prob has 62s as well, but i was asking him bout 65s.

I think 62 and 65 is below the just noticeble difference threshold so in terms of "feel" it would be quite impossible to tell them apart.

But if the clear switch stems were new and un-greased, it's possible that they may fail to reset promptly
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 25 April 2013, 08:05:02
hm... i just checked my bills, he hasn't billed me... so... Damn it wfd, sell me "some of those springs" why don't ya..

Oh man, did I ever tell you how great these springs are? I sport them on all my personal keyboards, as well as all the ones I build for people. Truly a must-have item.

Truly.  You just haven't experienced mechanical keyboards as they were designed to work without these springs.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: mashby on Thu, 25 April 2013, 08:06:47
hm... i just checked my bills, he hasn't billed me... so... Damn it wfd, sell me "some of those springs" why don't ya..

Oh man, did I ever tell you how great these springs are? I sport them on all my personal keyboards, as well as all the ones I build for people. Truly a must-have item.

What springs?
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: emptythecache on Thu, 25 April 2013, 11:49:42
For what its worth, I ordered springs from the site while it was up and they came maybe a week later.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Dianoda on Thu, 25 April 2013, 12:07:48
For what its worth, I ordered springs from the site while it was up and they came maybe a week later.

Similar story here - I ordered from sherry via PM (shortly after his paypal account went kaput) and paid w/ amazon payments.  Got my springs/stickers/cap pretty quickly, less than a week.  But after seeing what's happened w/ the sanctuary GB, well, sherry needs to take care of that before I would begin to consider ordering from him again.

Looks like the site is back up, btw.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 25 April 2013, 12:43:35
Well the atleast site is back up again.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: keymaster on Thu, 25 April 2013, 12:45:07
The site is back up, but I'm not able to get past the 'Review Your Order' page.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: mashby on Thu, 25 April 2013, 12:45:59
For what its worth, I ordered springs from the site while it was up and they came maybe a week later.

Ditto. I ordered stickers via Amazon Payments and they arrived the same week. I would happily order from him again once he gets his stuff sorted out.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: keymaster on Thu, 25 April 2013, 21:31:10
Here's a pic of the SkiData set sherry put on his instagram:

(http://i.imgur.com/V3CaEwE.jpg)
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 25 April 2013, 21:46:56
Looks good but the ~ and non-classic tab key might bother me ~_~
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: funkymeeba on Thu, 25 April 2013, 22:13:05
I think his terrible business practice is the part that would bother me. ;)
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: L4yercake on Thu, 25 April 2013, 22:56:29
I haven't been following this but are the SkiData made by GMK?
Title: Re: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: boost on Thu, 25 April 2013, 23:01:45
I haven't been following this but are the SkiData made by GMK?

Yes
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: ekw808 on Thu, 25 April 2013, 23:05:37
Wish they would fix that tab key..
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Michael on Thu, 25 April 2013, 23:06:21
haha I was just about to say something about the tab key, ekw :P
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 26 April 2013, 05:24:39
i'll grab some dolch when they arrive !
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:20:23
i'll grab some dolch IF they arrive !
FTFY
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: L4yercake on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:09:18
And I think I'll sell a Dolch set when the SkiData set arrives.   :p
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:19:26
..ordered some 65g springs yesterday. May the gods bless its journey from Originative to my doorstep  :))
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:30:54
GMK do have the at least 2 other Tab legend, I have no idea why the hell originative are choosing that one. I don't even know where that one comes from as I can not recall any vintage Cherry keyboard that uses it.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:32:11
I've got no clue. This is Sherry you're talking about Ivan. Don't forget that. :P
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:33:06
His site looks so nice and professional. Too bad he isn't so here.
Has anyone contacted him from his site?

According to his site, he is around the Los Angeles or San Diego area.
I wonder if he does local pickups...
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Acetrak on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:49:08
Orange Charcoal are now live: https://www.originativeco.com/orange-and-charcoal-set
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 26 April 2013, 21:06:27
Also updated his homepage, I would gladly purchase if he does follow through.
But until then I think I will hold off on buying orange on charcoal.

Quote
I have introduced a few new products ranging from keyset to springs.  I am sorry for all the inconvenience I have caused everyone.  Most of the things have been fixed.  If you are missing any keys, then please send me an e-mail with the order no. at sheraton@originativeco.com. The sanctuary keyset was in South Korea until they shipped it back on Tuesday.  ALL of them will go out on Monday and Tuesday.  More products are going to be available soon.  4 new sets of PBT Dye Sublimation, 2 new sets of Double-Shot, 4 sets from IMSTO, a few novelty keys, and some rarer springs.  Thanks for all the patience, and thank you for continuing staying with us.  I will do another contest with the new keycap sets. 
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: ideus on Fri, 26 April 2013, 21:14:01
The offer at his site is very tempting, a brand new authentic cherry set, wow!, let see if the pioneer buyers that risk into this new land survive  :D
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: inlikeflynn on Fri, 26 April 2013, 21:17:35
dat tab is so bad dough

and no 1.75x shift or ISO stuff he promised before too :/
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 April 2013, 21:17:49
I emailed him about the black on beige set after he made that update post a few days ago..he said i could place and order, and i asked to make sure that he would be able to ship it out and what-not and i got no reply.

i will email again after the gh60 payments are due, and try to buy that black on beige set for my gh60
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: L4yercake on Fri, 26 April 2013, 21:20:30
Why is priority shipping costing $11.95?

And no 1.75 Right Shift...? This man has got nothing together apparently. I'm going to hold off for a bit.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 April 2013, 22:06:40
he prob has 62s as well, but i was asking him bout 65s.

I think 62 and 65 is below the just noticeble difference threshold so in terms of "feel" it would be quite impossible to tell them apart.

But if the clear switch stems were new and un-greased, it's possible that they may fail to reset promptly

It's hard to tell them apart, but my 65g spring Clears feel better than my 62g Clears.  The 65g springs just make the switch feel a little smoother.  I'm sure you couldn't tell on other switches, but it's barely noticeable on Clears.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's maybe coming back
Post by: dante on Sat, 27 April 2013, 09:04:53
I'm LOL'ing hard at that Windows key.  It looks like something off a QFR.

[edit]Just noticed 80g springs.  Paging rootwyrm...
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's maybe coming back
Post by: Glod on Mon, 29 April 2013, 04:23:26
damn 45g and 80g springs

may roll the dice with originative and make an order and see how that goes ......
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's prob not coming back
Post by: Hypersphere on Wed, 10 July 2013, 22:49:01
For what its worth, I ordered springs from the site while it was up and they came maybe a week later.

Ditto. I ordered stickers via Amazon Payments and they arrived the same week. I would happily order from him again once he gets his stuff sorted out.

A few weeks ago, I ordered the Classic Beige with Blue keycap set from Originative and received it promptly, although I thought the payment method was strange. Since then, I have wanted to order additional keycap sets, but I had some pre-sales questions. I have sent multiple e-mails through the Originative site, regular e-mails, and PMs through GH, but I have received no replies.

Like you, I would like to give them more business, but it is not possible without communication. Surely there must be other dealers for GMK and other quality keycap sets (double shots and thick dye sub PBT). I realize there are GBs organized through GH from time to time, but I would prefer not to wait for such a lengthy process. Suggestions?
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's maybe coming back
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:25:45
There are no other GMK dealers. He does sell some imsto thick PBTs that can be bought from imsto directly, through feng (http://myworld.ebay.com/geek_feng/) or through the R2 group buy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0)

Everything Originative sells is unique and can't be found elsewhere except for the imsto sets. Also, some of the imsto sets he sells can't be found elsewhere either.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's maybe coming back
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:31:12
elitekeyboards.com sells some keys manufactured by GMK, but not full sets.  For those, at the moment, it is Originative or group buys.
Title: Re: GDI, Originative's maybe coming back
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:10:13
Sherry got back to me last night. His internet connection had been down again, but now it appears that things are up and running once more. I really like the unique products he has, so I will be ordering from him again.