I'm not defending monsanto or dupont pioneer (less known company, same bull****) but the dependence on these GM products keeps them alive. there really isn't an alternative to GM products given how much we consume soy, corn, etc. and how cheap we need it to be.Received wisdom from commercials? Politicians? It doesn't fly:
You can’t look at the chart and guess when GMO seeds were introduced (hint: 1996) by some huge increase in the yield curve. Certainly, it’s not the way you could glance at a graph of, say, the tuberculosis death rate in the 20th century and instantly identify the date antibiotics were introduced.http://grist.org/food/frankenfoods-good-for-big-business-bad-for-the-rest-of-us/
The commercialization of GMO seeds starting in 1996 didn’t lead to any agricultural great leap forward. It’s a far cry from what biotech advocates declare: that we need GMOs in order to feed a growing world population or face mass starvation.
there really isn't an alternative to GM products given how much we consume soy, corn, etc. and how cheap we need it to be.
there really isn't an alternative to GM products given how much we consume soy, corn, etc. and how cheap we need it to be.
This is the problem, people are implanted by the media with this idea that America won't be able to survive without huge surpluses of these ****ty GMO commodities... In reality, these ****ty GMO surplus commodities are getting a few douche bags rich, destroying our fertile farmlands, and providing more than necessary, AKA wasting the fertility of our soil, so that a few major shareholders and the executives who cater to them can continue to buy new Bentleys while enslaving illegal Mexicans for pennies on the dollar... sorry for sounding like KL but this **** is reality and I don't share TP's belief of "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"
damn tp, done editing your post yet?
that's at least 3 edits I've seen...
I'm helping bring awareness to the problem by 'running my mouth'.
All you're doing is serving their purpose, patronizing the people who are speaking up against injustice.
Yeah, I know you're a little *****, keep yapping online, it's the only think you seem to be good at :/
What do you believe in exactly?... the only thing you seem to be obsessed with is entitlement... pay for no work..
What do you believe in exactly?... the only thing you seem to be obsessed with is entitlement... pay for no work..
I have insinuated nothing of the sort, thank you for proving my point that you are a deranged, depressed psychopath, who attempts to project his ****ed up perception of reality onto others. I'm done with you, your next reply will be to yourself.
If you truly believe in a grand-revolution, then go make money and buy change...What a retard thing to say. He isn't complaining but informing people.
Instead of sitting here complaining on the internet... Putting forward only the least of efforts..
Just grow your own food. I do!Self centered much? See above..
I figure if people aren't smart enough to figure out what's killing them, then why keep them alive?
Just grow your own food. I do!
Sure. Call it what you want. If your not going to educate yourself, why bother breathing?If you truly believe in a grand-revolution, then go make money and buy change...What a retard thing to say. He isn't complaining but informing people.
Instead of sitting here complaining on the internet... Putting forward only the least of efforts..Just grow your own food. I do!Self centered much? See above..
I figure if people aren't smart enough to figure out what's killing them, then why keep them alive?
I would guess you've spent about 5 seconds thinking about that. They don't control every inch of soil and plant that grows on this earth. I takes hardly any effort to find heirloom seeds. If you don't know what those are, give them a look. You might be surprised!Just grow your own food. I do!
That's possible to only some extent, and even then you're affected by those corporations, because (1) GMO stuff is often dominant, and (2) they (their lobby) change the rules (i.e. laws).
I would guess you've spent about 5 seconds thinking about that. They don't control every inch of soil and plant that grows on this earth. I takes hardly any effort to find heirloom seeds. If you don't know what those are, give them a look. You might be surprised!Just grow your own food. I do!
That's possible to only some extent, and even then you're affected by those corporations, because (1) GMO stuff is often dominant, and (2) they (their lobby) change the rules (i.e. laws).
Sure. Call it what you want. If your not going to educate yourself, why bother breathing?If you truly believe in a grand-revolution, then go make money and buy change...What a retard thing to say. He isn't complaining but informing people.
Instead of sitting here complaining on the internet... Putting forward only the least of efforts..Just grow your own food. I do!Self centered much? See above..
I figure if people aren't smart enough to figure out what's killing them, then why keep them alive?I would guess you've spent about 5 seconds thinking about that. They don't control every inch of soil and plant that grows on this earth. I takes hardly any effort to find heirloom seeds. If you don't know what those are, give them a look. You might be surprised!Just grow your own food. I do!
That's possible to only some extent, and even then you're affected by those corporations, because (1) GMO stuff is often dominant, and (2) they (their lobby) change the rules (i.e. laws).
Baby sloth? Cute now, but they tend to get infested with a lot of vermin as adults.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vhzdP.gif)
Just grow your own food. I do!
How about Monsanto made Soylent Green when the ecosystem is dead.Just grow your own food. I do!
That's fine if you're willing to except the fact that a bunch of brown people are going to die of starvation/malnutrition as a result. Intensive farming, pesticides, chemical fertilizers and genetic modification are what's keeping the increasing world population fed. Not a nice fact, but that's the reality. The next stage of development is probably going to be farming insects as a protein source (if not for human consumption initially, then for animal feed).
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
Monsanto Corp.
Monsanto makes genetically engineered seeds and crops. They are the biggest seed company in the world, and have net income of approx. $126 million (USD). Monsanto's current stock price is approx. $104 (USD) which is still below their peak in 2008 of $140 (USD). The corporate criminals who run Monsanto are not even serving the greedy morons who bought their stock. They are stealing money from their shareholders, hiding profits from rightful taxation by the US Government through offshore accounts, and they are intentionally making, marketing and selling products that ruin human health and the environment.
Actual Genocide from Herbicide:
As if that wasn't bad enough, Monsanto is the corporation that created and sold Agent Orange, in partnership with Dow Chemical, to the US military during the Vietnam "conflict" from 1962 to 1971. If you are an ignorant jackass who doesn't know what Agent Orange is, it is the defoliating chemical herbicide that the USA dropped from bomber airplanes on Vietnam. The USA dropped over 19 million gallons on Vietnam. Over 150,000 US military personnel have suffered injuries as a result of said Agent Orange. Over 400,000 Vietnamese people were killed or maimed by Agent Orange, 500,000 suffered birth defects, and up to 1 million more people have other residual injuries.
Vietnam Was a Long Time Ago, So What?
Genetically engineered "food" has been genetically engineered to yield higher corporate profits for food corporate farm producers and retailers. That's it. There is no nutrition from genetically engineered food, because genetically engineered "food" is not even food at all, it is poison that can be made to look like food and sold to people who don't know any better, like tp4tissue. If you eat it, like tp4tissue, you will become fat and depressed (and suffer other health problems, including delusional thinking, I am not making this up). Monsanto (and others too) have stripped most of the phytonutrients from their genetically engineered "food". (Phytonutrients are compounds found in natural food which fight, among other things, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, depression and dementia.) It has gotten so bad over the past 15 years, that today in 2013, people are better off eating the wild dandelions from their lawns this spring than eating the so-called "spinach" that can be purchased from their local national chain supermarket. The dandelions have more nutrition. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. (And under no circumstances should you eat any food you purchase from Walmart, unless you hate life and want to die a fat colossal fool like tp4tissue.)
Ancient Greek Wisdom:
2,500 years ago Hippoctrates and the ancient Greeks knew that healthy food is important to sustaining the human body. Hippocrates said "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food." Somehow in the 21st century, this knowledge has been lost. Today, people like tp4tissue and the Monsanto Corporation say: "Let food be my poison, and poison be my food." And somehow other people agree.
How Much Will Stopping Monsanto Cost tp4tissue?
The real question we should all be asking ourselves, is: Will stopping Monsanto cost tp4tissue any money? The answer is: no. Curiously though tp4tissue is very worried about how much this will cost him. First, healthy food need not cost more than poison. And Second, even assuming arguendo that eating healthy food costs more than eating poison [which it does not], what is tp4tissue's ultimate goal? To save money by eating poison? If that is the case then he will ultimately end up being a wealthy corpse, who was fat and miserable every day when he was alive. Regardless of tp4tissue's budgetary worries, eating healthy food will not cost more than eating poison.
What can be done about it?
Get the government to pass a law banning all genetically engineered foods. The people must demand minimum standards for nutrition from the food you eat. Currently we regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol and tobacco. We ban heroin and cocaine. We do not allow people to put rat poison in our children's food. Why do we allow Monsanto to put poison us on our dinner plates?
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
Monsanto Corp.
Monsanto makes genetically engineered seeds and crops. They are the biggest seed company in the world, and have net income of approx. $126 million (USD). Monsanto's current stock price is approx. $104 (USD) which is still below their peak in 2008 of $140 (USD). The corporate criminals who run Monsanto are not even serving the greedy morons who bought their stock. They are stealing money from their shareholders, hiding profits from rightful taxation by the US Government through offshore accounts, and they are intentionally making, marketing and selling products that ruin human health and the environment.
Actual Genocide from Herbicide:
As if that wasn't bad enough, Monsanto is the corporation that created and sold Agent Orange, in partnership with Dow Chemical, to the US military during the Vietnam "conflict" from 1962 to 1971. If you are an ignorant jackass who doesn't know what Agent Orange is, it is the defoliating chemical herbicide that the USA dropped from bomber airplanes on Vietnam. The USA dropped over 19 million gallons on Vietnam. Over 150,000 US military personnel have suffered injuries as a result of said Agent Orange. Over 400,000 Vietnamese people were killed or maimed by Agent Orange, 500,000 suffered birth defects, and up to 1 million more people have other residual injuries.
Vietnam Was a Long Time Ago, So What?
Genetically engineered "food" has been genetically engineered to yield higher corporate profits for food corporate farm producers and retailers. That's it. There is no nutrition from genetically engineered food, because genetically engineered "food" is not even food at all, it is poison that can be made to look like food and sold to people who don't know any better, like tp4tissue. If you eat it, like tp4tissue, you will become fat and depressed (and suffer other health problems, including delusional thinking, I am not making this up). Monsanto (and others too) have stripped most of the phytonutrients from their genetically engineered "food". (Phytonutrients are compounds found in natural food which fight, among other things, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, depression and dementia.) It has gotten so bad over the past 15 years, that today in 2013, people are better off eating the wild dandelions from their lawns this spring than eating the so-called "spinach" that can be purchased from their local national chain supermarket. The dandelions have more nutrition. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. (And under no circumstances should you eat any food you purchase from Walmart, unless you hate life and want to die a fat colossal fool like tp4tissue.)
Ancient Greek Wisdom:
2,500 years ago Hippoctrates and the ancient Greeks knew that healthy food is important to sustaining the human body. Hippocrates said "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food." Somehow in the 21st century, this knowledge has been lost. Today, people like tp4tissue and the Monsanto Corporation say: "Let food be my poison, and poison be my food." And somehow other people agree.
How Much Will Stopping Monsanto Cost tp4tissue?
The real question we should all be asking ourselves, is: Will stopping Monsanto cost tp4tissue any money? The answer is: no. Curiously though tp4tissue is very worried about how much this will cost him. First, healthy food need not cost more than poison. And Second, even assuming arguendo that eating healthy food costs more than eating poison [which it does not], what is tp4tissue's ultimate goal? To save money by eating poison? If that is the case then he will ultimately end up being a wealthy corpse, who was fat and miserable every day when he was alive. Regardless of tp4tissue's budgetary worries, eating healthy food will not cost more than eating poison.
What can be done about it?
Get the government to pass a law banning all genetically engineered foods. The people must demand minimum standards for nutrition from the food you eat. Currently we regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol and tobacco. We ban heroin and cocaine. We do not allow people to put rat poison in our children's food. Why do we allow Monsanto to put poison us on our dinner plates?
HAHAHAHHAHAA...
You are so naive.. and so wrong.
Eating healthy food, whether it's by monsanto or not cost significantly more money.. Per pound vegetables cost as much as meat, just an example.
COST is the reason we do not reform the poor food we give to children in our very schools in the USA... and NO ONE WANTS TO PAY...
Engineered food by monsanto IS NOT poison..
I could care less about their business practices.. Money is always acounted for in the end.. It really doesn't matter who holds it..
It is very difficult to truly squander money, because money is merely an accounting tool. While the lesser-learned people like eth0s think of it like a "reserve" or a "battery"...
In reality It is not...
Money is a form of artificial motivation, because as soon as a person is born into this world.. He is essentially in DEBT...
Because simply existing and surviving has become too trivial.. Humanity created this artificial debt to motivate people to go forward..
Monsanto may not be the BEST... but there will be people to replace them should they truly go off the deep end... and the replacement will be EXACTLY the same.... This is the nature of big business...
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
Monsanto Corp.
Monsanto makes genetically engineered seeds and crops. They are the biggest seed company in the world, and have net income of approx. $126 million (USD). Monsanto's current stock price is approx. $104 (USD) which is still below their peak in 2008 of $140 (USD). The corporate criminals who run Monsanto are not even serving the greedy morons who bought their stock. They are stealing money from their shareholders, hiding profits from rightful taxation by the US Government through offshore accounts, and they are intentionally making, marketing and selling products that ruin human health and the environment.
Actual Genocide from Herbicide:
As if that wasn't bad enough, Monsanto is the corporation that created and sold Agent Orange, in partnership with Dow Chemical, to the US military during the Vietnam "conflict" from 1962 to 1971. If you are an ignorant jackass who doesn't know what Agent Orange is, it is the defoliating chemical herbicide that the USA dropped from bomber airplanes on Vietnam. The USA dropped over 19 million gallons on Vietnam. Over 150,000 US military personnel have suffered injuries as a result of said Agent Orange. Over 400,000 Vietnamese people were killed or maimed by Agent Orange, 500,000 suffered birth defects, and up to 1 million more people have other residual injuries.
Vietnam Was a Long Time Ago, So What?
Genetically engineered "food" has been genetically engineered to yield higher corporate profits for food corporate farm producers and retailers. That's it. There is no nutrition from genetically engineered food, because genetically engineered "food" is not even food at all, it is poison that can be made to look like food and sold to people who don't know any better, like tp4tissue. If you eat it, like tp4tissue, you will become fat and depressed (and suffer other health problems, including delusional thinking, I am not making this up). Monsanto (and others too) have stripped most of the phytonutrients from their genetically engineered "food". (Phytonutrients are compounds found in natural food which fight, among other things, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, depression and dementia.) It has gotten so bad over the past 15 years, that today in 2013, people are better off eating the wild dandelions from their lawns this spring than eating the so-called "spinach" that can be purchased from their local national chain supermarket. The dandelions have more nutrition. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. (And under no circumstances should you eat any food you purchase from Walmart, unless you hate life and want to die a fat colossal fool like tp4tissue.)
Ancient Greek Wisdom:
2,500 years ago Hippoctrates and the ancient Greeks knew that healthy food is important to sustaining the human body. Hippocrates said "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food." Somehow in the 21st century, this knowledge has been lost. Today, people like tp4tissue and the Monsanto Corporation say: "Let food be my poison, and poison be my food." And somehow other people agree.
How Much Will Stopping Monsanto Cost tp4tissue?
The real question we should all be asking ourselves, is: Will stopping Monsanto cost tp4tissue any money? The answer is: no. Curiously though tp4tissue is very worried about how much this will cost him. First, healthy food need not cost more than poison. And Second, even assuming arguendo that eating healthy food costs more than eating poison [which it does not], what is tp4tissue's ultimate goal? To save money by eating poison? If that is the case then he will ultimately end up being a wealthy corpse, who was fat and miserable every day when he was alive. Regardless of tp4tissue's budgetary worries, eating healthy food will not cost more than eating poison.
What can be done about it?
Get the government to pass a law banning all genetically engineered foods. The people must demand minimum standards for nutrition from the food you eat. Currently we regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol and tobacco. We ban heroin and cocaine. We do not allow people to put rat poison in our children's food. Why do we allow Monsanto to put poison us on our dinner plates?
HAHAHAHHAHAA...
You are so naive.. and so wrong.
Eating healthy food, whether it's by monsanto or not cost significantly more money.. Per pound vegetables cost as much as meat, just an example.
COST is the reason we do not reform the poor food we give to children in our very schools in the USA... and NO ONE WANTS TO PAY...
Engineered food by monsanto IS NOT poison..
I could care less about their business practices.. Money is always acounted for in the end.. It really doesn't matter who holds it..
It is very difficult to truly squander money, because money is merely an accounting tool. While the lesser-learned people like eth0s think of it like a "reserve" or a "battery"...
In reality It is not...
Money is a form of artificial motivation, because as soon as a person is born into this world.. He is essentially in DEBT...
Because simply existing and surviving has become too trivial.. Humanity created this artificial debt to motivate people to go forward..
Monsanto may not be the BEST... but there will be people to replace them should they truly go off the deep end... and the replacement will be EXACTLY the same.... This is the nature of big business...
^ This is what happens to your brain if you eat genetically engineered food.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
Monsanto Corp.
Monsanto makes genetically engineered seeds and crops. They are the biggest seed company in the world, and have net income of approx. $126 million (USD). Monsanto's current stock price is approx. $104 (USD) which is still below their peak in 2008 of $140 (USD). The corporate criminals who run Monsanto are not even serving the greedy morons who bought their stock. They are stealing money from their shareholders, hiding profits from rightful taxation by the US Government through offshore accounts, and they are intentionally making, marketing and selling products that ruin human health and the environment.
Actual Genocide from Herbicide:
As if that wasn't bad enough, Monsanto is the corporation that created and sold Agent Orange, in partnership with Dow Chemical, to the US military during the Vietnam "conflict" from 1962 to 1971. If you are an ignorant jackass who doesn't know what Agent Orange is, it is the defoliating chemical herbicide that the USA dropped from bomber airplanes on Vietnam. The USA dropped over 19 million gallons on Vietnam. Over 150,000 US military personnel have suffered injuries as a result of said Agent Orange. Over 400,000 Vietnamese people were killed or maimed by Agent Orange, 500,000 suffered birth defects, and up to 1 million more people have other residual injuries.
Vietnam Was a Long Time Ago, So What?
Genetically engineered "food" has been genetically engineered to yield higher corporate profits for food corporate farm producers and retailers. That's it. There is no nutrition from genetically engineered food, because genetically engineered "food" is not even food at all, it is poison that can be made to look like food and sold to people who don't know any better, like tp4tissue. If you eat it, like tp4tissue, you will become fat and depressed (and suffer other health problems, including delusional thinking, I am not making this up). Monsanto (and others too) have stripped most of the phytonutrients from their genetically engineered "food". (Phytonutrients are compounds found in natural food which fight, among other things, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, depression and dementia.) It has gotten so bad over the past 15 years, that today in 2013, people are better off eating the wild dandelions from their lawns this spring than eating the so-called "spinach" that can be purchased from their local national chain supermarket. The dandelions have more nutrition. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. (And under no circumstances should you eat any food you purchase from Walmart, unless you hate life and want to die a fat colossal fool like tp4tissue.)
Ancient Greek Wisdom:
2,500 years ago Hippoctrates and the ancient Greeks knew that healthy food is important to sustaining the human body. Hippocrates said "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food." Somehow in the 21st century, this knowledge has been lost. Today, people like tp4tissue and the Monsanto Corporation say: "Let food be my poison, and poison be my food." And somehow other people agree.
How Much Will Stopping Monsanto Cost tp4tissue?
The real question we should all be asking ourselves, is: Will stopping Monsanto cost tp4tissue any money? The answer is: no. Curiously though tp4tissue is very worried about how much this will cost him. First, healthy food need not cost more than poison. And Second, even assuming arguendo that eating healthy food costs more than eating poison [which it does not], what is tp4tissue's ultimate goal? To save money by eating poison? If that is the case then he will ultimately end up being a wealthy corpse, who was fat and miserable every day when he was alive. Regardless of tp4tissue's budgetary worries, eating healthy food will not cost more than eating poison.
What can be done about it?
Get the government to pass a law banning all genetically engineered foods. The people must demand minimum standards for nutrition from the food you eat. Currently we regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol and tobacco. We ban heroin and cocaine. We do not allow people to put rat poison in our children's food. Why do we allow Monsanto to put poison us on our dinner plates?
HAHAHAHHAHAA...
You are so naive.. and so wrong.
Eating healthy food, whether it's by monsanto or not cost significantly more money.. Per pound vegetables cost as much as meat, just an example.
COST is the reason we do not reform the poor food we give to children in our very schools in the USA... and NO ONE WANTS TO PAY...
Engineered food by monsanto IS NOT poison..
I could care less about their business practices.. Money is always acounted for in the end.. It really doesn't matter who holds it..
It is very difficult to truly squander money, because money is merely an accounting tool. While the lesser-learned people like eth0s think of it like a "reserve" or a "battery"...
In reality It is not...
Money is a form of artificial motivation, because as soon as a person is born into this world.. He is essentially in DEBT...
Because simply existing and surviving has become too trivial.. Humanity created this artificial debt to motivate people to go forward..
Monsanto may not be the BEST... but there will be people to replace them should they truly go off the deep end... and the replacement will be EXACTLY the same.... This is the nature of big business...
^ This is what happens to your brain if you eat genetically engineered food.
Wow you break down into "only" personal insults after 1 response... There's alot of internet defeats today.. Eth0s, WRXChris... :D
I'm on a roll.
Heh, while I may not agree with your points TP, +1 internets for you. I laughed.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
Monsanto Corp.
Monsanto makes genetically engineered seeds and crops. They are the biggest seed company in the world, and have net income of approx. $126 million (USD). Monsanto's current stock price is approx. $104 (USD) which is still below their peak in 2008 of $140 (USD). The corporate criminals who run Monsanto are not even serving the greedy morons who bought their stock. They are stealing money from their shareholders, hiding profits from rightful taxation by the US Government through offshore accounts, and they are intentionally making, marketing and selling products that ruin human health and the environment.
Actual Genocide from Herbicide:
As if that wasn't bad enough, Monsanto is the corporation that created and sold Agent Orange, in partnership with Dow Chemical, to the US military during the Vietnam "conflict" from 1962 to 1971. If you are an ignorant jackass who doesn't know what Agent Orange is, it is the defoliating chemical herbicide that the USA dropped from bomber airplanes on Vietnam. The USA dropped over 19 million gallons on Vietnam. Over 150,000 US military personnel have suffered injuries as a result of said Agent Orange. Over 400,000 Vietnamese people were killed or maimed by Agent Orange, 500,000 suffered birth defects, and up to 1 million more people have other residual injuries.
Vietnam Was a Long Time Ago, So What?
Genetically engineered "food" has been genetically engineered to yield higher corporate profits for food corporate farm producers and retailers. That's it. There is no nutrition from genetically engineered food, because genetically engineered "food" is not even food at all, it is poison that can be made to look like food and sold to people who don't know any better, like tp4tissue. If you eat it, like tp4tissue, you will become fat and depressed (and suffer other health problems, including delusional thinking, I am not making this up). Monsanto (and others too) have stripped most of the phytonutrients from their genetically engineered "food". (Phytonutrients are compounds found in natural food which fight, among other things, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, depression and dementia.) It has gotten so bad over the past 15 years, that today in 2013, people are better off eating the wild dandelions from their lawns this spring than eating the so-called "spinach" that can be purchased from their local national chain supermarket. The dandelions have more nutrition. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. (And under no circumstances should you eat any food you purchase from Walmart, unless you hate life and want to die a fat colossal fool like tp4tissue.)
Ancient Greek Wisdom:
2,500 years ago Hippoctrates and the ancient Greeks knew that healthy food is important to sustaining the human body. Hippocrates said "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food." Somehow in the 21st century, this knowledge has been lost. Today, people like tp4tissue and the Monsanto Corporation say: "Let food be my poison, and poison be my food." And somehow other people agree.
How Much Will Stopping Monsanto Cost tp4tissue?
The real question we should all be asking ourselves, is: Will stopping Monsanto cost tp4tissue any money? The answer is: no. Curiously though tp4tissue is very worried about how much this will cost him. First, healthy food need not cost more than poison. And Second, even assuming arguendo that eating healthy food costs more than eating poison [which it does not], what is tp4tissue's ultimate goal? To save money by eating poison? If that is the case then he will ultimately end up being a wealthy corpse, who was fat and miserable every day when he was alive. Regardless of tp4tissue's budgetary worries, eating healthy food will not cost more than eating poison.
What can be done about it?
Get the government to pass a law banning all genetically engineered foods. The people must demand minimum standards for nutrition from the food you eat. Currently we regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol and tobacco. We ban heroin and cocaine. We do not allow people to put rat poison in our children's food. Why do we allow Monsanto to put poison us on our dinner plates?
HAHAHAHHAHAA...
You are so naive.. and so wrong.
Eating healthy food, whether it's by monsanto or not cost significantly more money.. Per pound vegetables cost as much as meat, just an example.
COST is the reason we do not reform the poor food we give to children in our very schools in the USA... and NO ONE WANTS TO PAY...
Engineered food by monsanto IS NOT poison..
I could care less about their business practices.. Money is always acounted for in the end.. It really doesn't matter who holds it..
It is very difficult to truly squander money, because money is merely an accounting tool. While the lesser-learned people like eth0s think of it like a "reserve" or a "battery"...
In reality It is not...
Money is a form of artificial motivation, because as soon as a person is born into this world.. He is essentially in DEBT...
Because simply existing and surviving has become too trivial.. Humanity created this artificial debt to motivate people to go forward..
Monsanto may not be the BEST... but there will be people to replace them should they truly go off the deep end... and the replacement will be EXACTLY the same.... This is the nature of big business...
^ This is what happens to your brain if you eat genetically engineered food.
Wow you break down into "only" personal insults after 1 response... There's alot of internet defeats today.. Eth0s, WRXChris... :D
I'm on a roll.
You are what you eat. If you are insulted by that fact, you should realize that it's not me that's insulting you.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
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As a non American I'm not sure this really affects me much at all, but banning all GM foods seems a little extreme. I enjoy all kinds of GM foods that have been changed for my personal benefit, like fruit with smaller pips etc...
People aren't forced into poor diets, it's simply just a lack of education on how to diet and exercise properly.
But anything that can help make general food healthier can't be a bad thing I guess?
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
(...)
That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
"More cliche nonsense by eth0s... it seems like you've been on chan and reddit too long...
Akkkehm..
Human beings only eat 3 big groups.. Protein, Fats, Carbohydrates
The body is NOT terribly picky about the things intra-category."
Something I said must have really upset you, and I guess I should apologize, for that was not my intent. But you continue to spew nonsense. "ïntra-category things"? This is meaningless. Please take a class on nutrition. Or better yet go outside and get some exercise.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
(...)
That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
(...)
That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
In the Czech Republic, one of the top three producers of GM crops in the EU, production of Bt maize, used for animal feed, dropped 27 percent to just 4,680 hectares, while organic crop acreage increased 30 percent in 2010. Czech consumers have been rejecting GM foods, even in a recession, in favor of more expensive organic foods.
Czech people are starting to see that GM crops are not the panacea they were promised to be. Plus the only reason you had GM crops in your country in the first place is that the US Government pushed you to grow them. If you want the US Government to tell you what to do, that is up to you. But, I'm sure you don't want to see a GM version of Pilsner Urquell, do you? How about being forced to drink a nice tall glass of American Budweiser? Sound good? If yes then you agree with US Trade Representative Mary Sapiro. She said unequivocally that she expects all Europeans to enjoy heaping portions of American cuisine with no concerns whatsoever.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
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That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
In the Czech Republic, one of the top three producers of GM crops in the EU, production of Bt maize, used for animal feed, dropped 27 percent to just 4,680 hectares, while organic crop acreage increased 30 percent in 2010. Czech consumers have been rejecting GM foods, even in a recession, in favor of more expensive organic foods.
Czech people are starting to see that GM crops are not the panacea they were promised to be. Plus the only reason you had GM crops in your country in the first place is that the US Government pushed you to grow them. If you want the US Government to tell you what to do, that is up to you. But, I'm sure you don't want to see a GM version of Pilsner Urquell, do you? How about being forced to drink a nice tall glass of American Budweiser? Sound good? If yes then you agree with US Trade Representative Mary Sapiro. She said unequivocally that she expects all Europeans to enjoy heaping portions of American cuisine with no concerns whatsoever.
No, this is a business/political issue that you've mentioned... No one in Czech believes that GM crops are "poisoned"
Organic is also BS, makes for good marketing, and in a smaller country like Czech it is much easier for them to adopt such a "fashion"..
In larger countries however, organic is but a fad, AND most of the time, A LIE outright...
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
(...)
That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
In the Czech Republic, one of the top three producers of GM crops in the EU, production of Bt maize, used for animal feed, dropped 27 percent to just 4,680 hectares, while organic crop acreage increased 30 percent in 2010. Czech consumers have been rejecting GM foods, even in a recession, in favor of more expensive organic foods.
Czech people are starting to see that GM crops are not the panacea they were promised to be. Plus the only reason you had GM crops in your country in the first place is that the US Government pushed you to grow them. If you want the US Government to tell you what to do, that is up to you. But, I'm sure you don't want to see a GM version of Pilsner Urquell, do you? How about being forced to drink a nice tall glass of American Budweiser? Sound good? If yes then you agree with US Trade Representative Mary Sapiro. She said unequivocally that she expects all Europeans to enjoy heaping portions of American cuisine with no concerns whatsoever.
No, this is a business/political issue that you've mentioned... No one in Czech believes that GM crops are "poisoned"
Organic is also BS, makes for good marketing, and in a smaller country like Czech it is much easier for them to adopt such a "fashion"..
In larger countries however, organic is but a fad, AND most of the time, A LIE outright...
tp4tissue: What can I say? You are the most disagreeable person on this forum. I do not want to insult you, and again I apologize for insulting you earlier. But please go to Prague. Or read something about the issue. I have done both. The US Govt. is forcing smaller and weaker states like the Czech Republic to accept GM foods and crops. It is an outrage. If you are for such victimization, then I have to respectfully agree to disagree with you. But I caution you not to unwittingly act as an apologist for such a foreign policy. If you are a big shareholder of Monsanto Corp, I guess you will never see my point of view. Regardless of your financial interest in Monsanto, GM foods are a real problem, which you are choosing to ignore. I guess I cannot convince you of a danger that you cannot see or taste. But it's there. I would like to see an America where there are no fat people. We are rich enough, and smart enough to accomplish this feat, simply by having real food to eat. Well, I guess I should say I want to live in an America where the only fat Americans are those that choose to be fat, not the America we have today, where the pituitary gland of every American who eats GM food and other corporate mass-produced food is being flooded with hormones and chemicals without your knowledge and consent from the very food you eat, which in turn makes them fat. Choosing to be fat is lamentable, forcing people to be fat without their consent is horrific.
Also I agree that the terms "organic" and "natural" should be regulated. But again, the large corporations that are blocking such regulation are Monsanto and their ilk. They do not want Americans to know what that they have a healthy choice, since like in the Czech Republic, they are afraid people will overwhelmingly choose healthy foods, even if they cost more.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
(...)
That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
In the Czech Republic, one of the top three producers of GM crops in the EU, production of Bt maize, used for animal feed, dropped 27 percent to just 4,680 hectares, while organic crop acreage increased 30 percent in 2010. Czech consumers have been rejecting GM foods, even in a recession, in favor of more expensive organic foods.
Czech people are starting to see that GM crops are not the panacea they were promised to be. Plus the only reason you had GM crops in your country in the first place is that the US Government pushed you to grow them. If you want the US Government to tell you what to do, that is up to you. But, I'm sure you don't want to see a GM version of Pilsner Urquell, do you? How about being forced to drink a nice tall glass of American Budweiser? Sound good? If yes then you agree with US Trade Representative Mary Sapiro. She said unequivocally that she expects all Europeans to enjoy heaping portions of American cuisine with no concerns whatsoever.
No, this is a business/political issue that you've mentioned... No one in Czech believes that GM crops are "poisoned"
Organic is also BS, makes for good marketing, and in a smaller country like Czech it is much easier for them to adopt such a "fashion"..
In larger countries however, organic is but a fad, AND most of the time, A LIE outright...
tp4tissue: What can I say? You are the most disagreeable person on this forum. I do not want to insult you, and again I apologize for insulting you earlier. But please go to Prague. Or read something about the issue. I have done both. The US Govt. is forcing smaller and weaker states like the Czech Republic to accept GM foods and crops. It is an outrage. If you are for such victimization, then I have to respectfully agree to disagree with you. But I caution you not to unwittingly act as an apologist for such a foreign policy. If you are a big shareholder of Monsanto Corp, I guess you will never see my point of view. Regardless of your financial interest in Monsanto, GM foods are a real problem, which you are choosing to ignore. I guess I cannot convince you of a danger that you cannot see or taste. But it's there. I would like to see an America where there are no fat people. We are rich enough, and smart enough to accomplish this feat, simply by having real food to eat. Well, I guess I should say I want to live in an America where the only fat Americans are those that choose to be fat, not the America we have today, where the pituitary gland of every American who eats GM food and other corporate mass-produced food is being flooded with hormones and chemicals without your knowledge and consent from the very food you eat, which in turn makes them fat. Choosing to be fat is lamentable, forcing people to be fat without their consent is horrific.
Also I agree that the terms "organic" and "natural" should be regulated. But again, the large corporations that are blocking such regulation are Monsanto and their ilk. They do not want Americans to know what that they have a healthy choice, since like in the Czech Republic, they are afraid people will overwhelmingly choose healthy foods, even if they cost more.
tp4tissue is actually right here. Growing GM crops and mostly oilseed rape was mostly a political decision, same mistake as with photovoltaics and such sources of energy, based on environmentalist hype/lobby and pressure from EU.
Organic food is a completely different story. (BTW we have the worst quality food maybe in whole Europe. Same with GSM and such stuff. Specific market, sigh...)
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
(...)
That sounded believable until the third paragraph. GM food in general is a poison? If you're serious, you're as brainwashed as tp4tissue.
In the Czech Republic, one of the top three producers of GM crops in the EU, production of Bt maize, used for animal feed, dropped 27 percent to just 4,680 hectares, while organic crop acreage increased 30 percent in 2010. Czech consumers have been rejecting GM foods, even in a recession, in favor of more expensive organic foods.
Czech people are starting to see that GM crops are not the panacea they were promised to be. Plus the only reason you had GM crops in your country in the first place is that the US Government pushed you to grow them. If you want the US Government to tell you what to do, that is up to you. But, I'm sure you don't want to see a GM version of Pilsner Urquell, do you? How about being forced to drink a nice tall glass of American Budweiser? Sound good? If yes then you agree with US Trade Representative Mary Sapiro. She said unequivocally that she expects all Europeans to enjoy heaping portions of American cuisine with no concerns whatsoever.
No, this is a business/political issue that you've mentioned... No one in Czech believes that GM crops are "poisoned"
Organic is also BS, makes for good marketing, and in a smaller country like Czech it is much easier for them to adopt such a "fashion"..
In larger countries however, organic is but a fad, AND most of the time, A LIE outright...
tp4tissue: What can I say? You are the most disagreeable person on this forum. I do not want to insult you, and again I apologize for insulting you earlier. But please go to Prague. Or read something about the issue. I have done both. The US Govt. is forcing smaller and weaker states like the Czech Republic to accept GM foods and crops. It is an outrage. If you are for such victimization, then I have to respectfully agree to disagree with you. But I caution you not to unwittingly act as an apologist for such a foreign policy. If you are a big shareholder of Monsanto Corp, I guess you will never see my point of view. Regardless of your financial interest in Monsanto, GM foods are a real problem, which you are choosing to ignore. I guess I cannot convince you of a danger that you cannot see or taste. But it's there. I would like to see an America where there are no fat people. We are rich enough, and smart enough to accomplish this feat, simply by having real food to eat. Well, I guess I should say I want to live in an America where the only fat Americans are those that choose to be fat, not the America we have today, where the pituitary gland of every American who eats GM food and other corporate mass-produced food is being flooded with hormones and chemicals without your knowledge and consent from the very food you eat, which in turn makes them fat. Choosing to be fat is lamentable, forcing people to be fat without their consent is horrific.
Also I agree that the terms "organic" and "natural" should be regulated. But again, the large corporations that are blocking such regulation are Monsanto and their ilk. They do not want Americans to know what that they have a healthy choice, since like in the Czech Republic, they are afraid people will overwhelmingly choose healthy foods, even if they cost more.
tp4tissue is actually right here. Growing GM crops and mostly oilseed rape was mostly a political decision, same mistake as with photovoltaics and such sources of energy, based on environmentalist hype/lobby and pressure from EU.
Organic food is a completely different story. (BTW we have the worst quality food maybe in whole Europe. Same with GSM and such stuff. Specific market, sigh...)
"I remember that Monsanto and its products have recently been banned from Poland, precisely because its genetically modified maize devastated the bee population in the country. In this context, here is the move of Monsanto is to buy the organization that conducts research in the world on this issue. The matter in surrounded by the fact that the institution in question - they work for the best experts entomologists on the planet - has also recently stated that the Worldwide mortality of bees be found in a certain cause: the products of Monsanto. "
from an article somewhere in the internet...
How can you live in this world so cold and hopeless that does not care anything about you?
Where we all are a lonely nothing?
I mean that is your world that is cold, not you, none gives a **** if you are cold or not as long as you pay your bills
is it the organic food fallacy? are gmo's really so bad? does anyone care about fair trade? Monsanto ifs a Corp just like any other,I don't see anyone occupying Apple, farmers in India suicide cuz they can't pay the Monsanto fees, Apple has ppl jumping off by the dozen, it's all the same really. I buy my groceries from different markets, Wal-Mart and even from these horrible Amish farmers markets. what is it anyone's business if Monsanto does business it not.oh I also but organic chicken, the Kat time I bought Perdue the breasts were of Pamala Anderson size, definitely not correct.
perdue does, you buy one perdue chicken and you buy a different organic chicken (for some reason my organic only costs 30c more per lb, not terribly much) and the perdue breasts just look like implants. (tastes worst too)I will say that I've been impressed with some organic chicken I've gotten at Trader Joes. They tasted a lot better, almost as if you crossed the flavor of a regular bland chicken with the egg that it lays.
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This is worrying, at the very least... Lobbying is one of the biggest obstructions towards a true democracy. To see powerful companies and banks having such high positions in government is another obstacle.
Millions of people are marching in 400 cities around the world against Monsanto vs. tp4tissue who supports Monsanto.
Monsanto Corp.
Monsanto makes genetically engineered seeds and crops. They are the biggest seed company in the world, and have net income of approx. $126 million (USD). Monsanto's current stock price is approx. $104 (USD) which is still below their peak in 2008 of $140 (USD). The corporate criminals who run Monsanto are not even serving the greedy morons who bought their stock. They are stealing money from their shareholders, hiding profits from rightful taxation by the US Government through offshore accounts, and they are intentionally making, marketing and selling products that ruin human health and the environment.
Actual Genocide from Herbicide:
As if that wasn't bad enough, Monsanto is the corporation that created and sold Agent Orange, in partnership with Dow Chemical, to the US military during the Vietnam "conflict" from 1962 to 1971. If you are an ignorant jackass who doesn't know what Agent Orange is, it is the defoliating chemical herbicide that the USA dropped from bomber airplanes on Vietnam. The USA dropped over 19 million gallons on Vietnam. Over 150,000 US military personnel have suffered injuries as a result of said Agent Orange. Over 400,000 Vietnamese people were killed or maimed by Agent Orange, 500,000 suffered birth defects, and up to 1 million more people have other residual injuries.
Vietnam Was a Long Time Ago, So What?
Genetically engineered "food" has been genetically engineered to yield higher corporate profits for food corporate farm producers and retailers. That's it. There is no nutrition from genetically engineered food, because genetically engineered "food" is not even food at all, it is poison that can be made to look like food and sold to people who don't know any better, like tp4tissue. If you eat it, like tp4tissue, you will become fat and depressed (and suffer other health problems, including delusional thinking, I am not making this up). Monsanto (and others too) have stripped most of the phytonutrients from their genetically engineered "food". (Phytonutrients are compounds found in natural food which fight, among other things, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, depression and dementia.) It has gotten so bad over the past 15 years, that today in 2013, people are better off eating the wild dandelions from their lawns this spring than eating the so-called "spinach" that can be purchased from their local national chain supermarket. The dandelions have more nutrition. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. (And under no circumstances should you eat any food you purchase from Walmart, unless you hate life and want to die a fat colossal fool like tp4tissue.)
Ancient Greek Wisdom:
2,500 years ago Hippoctrates and the ancient Greeks knew that healthy food is important to sustaining the human body. Hippocrates said "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food." Somehow in the 21st century, this knowledge has been lost. Today, people like tp4tissue and the Monsanto Corporation say: "Let food be my poison, and poison be my food." And somehow other people agree.
How Much Will Stopping Monsanto Cost tp4tissue?
The real question we should all be asking ourselves, is: Will stopping Monsanto cost tp4tissue any money? The answer is: no. Curiously though tp4tissue is very worried about how much this will cost him. First, healthy food need not cost more than poison. And Second, even assuming arguendo that eating healthy food costs more than eating poison [which it does not], what is tp4tissue's ultimate goal? To save money by eating poison? If that is the case then he will ultimately end up being a wealthy corpse, who was fat and miserable every day when he was alive. Regardless of tp4tissue's budgetary worries, eating healthy food will not cost more than eating poison.
What can be done about it?
Get the government to pass a law banning all genetically engineered foods. The people must demand minimum standards for nutrition from the food you eat. Currently we regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol and tobacco. We ban heroin and cocaine. We do not allow people to put rat poison in our children's food. Why do we allow Monsanto to put poison us on our dinner plates?
HAHAHAHHAHAA...
You are so naive.. and so wrong.
Eating healthy food, whether it's by monsanto or not cost significantly more money.. Per pound vegetables cost as much as meat, just an example.
COST is the reason we do not reform the poor food we give to children in our very schools in the USA... and NO ONE WANTS TO PAY...
Engineered food by monsanto IS NOT poison..
I could care less about their business practices.. Money is always acounted for in the end.. It really doesn't matter who holds it..
It is very difficult to truly squander money, because money is merely an accounting tool. While the lesser-learned people like eth0s think of it like a "reserve" or a "battery"...
In reality It is not...
Money is a form of artificial motivation, because as soon as a person is born into this world.. He is essentially in DEBT...
Because simply existing and surviving has become too trivial.. Humanity created this artificial debt to motivate people to go forward..
Monsanto may not be the BEST... but there will be people to replace them should they truly go off the deep end... and the replacement will be EXACTLY the same.... This is the nature of big business...
^ This is what happens to your brain if you eat genetically engineered food.
Wow you break down into "only" personal insults after 1 response... There's alot of internet defeats today.. Eth0s, WRXChris... :D
I'm on a roll.
eth0s, what you've said isn't clever at all, LOL, it's cliche, dumb kids.. :))
"I remember that Monsanto and its products have recently been banned from Poland, precisely because its genetically modified maize devastated the bee population in the country. In this context, here is the move of Monsanto is to buy the organization that conducts research in the world on this issue. The matter in surrounded by the fact that the institution in question - they work for the best experts entomologists on the planet - has also recently stated that the Worldwide mortality of bees be found in a certain cause: the products of Monsanto. "
from an article somewhere in the internet...
Let's say that's TRUE.. we don't know for sure.. but let's assume...
In the end, it won't kill ALL the bees EVERYWHERE..
So, Many many bees die... that's quite alright.. Is this really a problem?
At worst Bee farmers may have to move to certain areas so their honey stock stays profitable..
People are really too attached and emotional about conservation of "endangered" animals...
I think dolphins are fine and cool, but if we need an oceanic power generator, and it happens to kill all the dolphins for greatly increased energy production... then dolphins are expendable.
and to those who says, the dolphins are innocent, and we need to live in harmony...
we live AGAINST the forces of nature... and these forces can crush us at ANY MOMENT... Dolphins be damned...
I'd much rather have more power to fuel more scientific research...
At any moment, the sun might release a solar flare that blows through our atmosphere and kill all unshielded electronics on earth..
Dolphins are gonna help us and give us internet back when that happens right?... oh please great dolphins.... fix our cellphones...
"I remember that Monsanto and its products have recently been banned from Poland, precisely because its genetically modified maize devastated the bee population in the country. In this context, here is the move of Monsanto is to buy the organization that conducts research in the world on this issue. The matter in surrounded by the fact that the institution in question - they work for the best experts entomologists on the planet - has also recently stated that the Worldwide mortality of bees be found in a certain cause: the products of Monsanto. "
from an article somewhere in the internet...
Let's say that's TRUE.. we don't know for sure.. but let's assume...
In the end, it won't kill ALL the bees EVERYWHERE..
So, Many many bees die... that's quite alright.. Is this really a problem?
At worst Bee farmers may have to move to certain areas so their honey stock stays profitable..
People are really too attached and emotional about conservation of "endangered" animals...
I think dolphins are fine and cool, but if we need an oceanic power generator, and it happens to kill all the dolphins for greatly increased energy production... then dolphins are expendable.
and to those who says, the dolphins are innocent, and we need to live in harmony...
we live AGAINST the forces of nature... and these forces can crush us at ANY MOMENT... Dolphins be damned...
I'd much rather have more power to fuel more scientific research...
At any moment, the sun might release a solar flare that blows through our atmosphere and kill all unshielded electronics on earth..
Dolphins are gonna help us and give us internet back when that happens right?... oh please great dolphins.... fix our cellphones...
Did you really just ignore the fact that bees are responsible for pollinating our plants? Bees don't just produce honey, they are the "slave labor" that takes male plant sperm and puts it in the female plant vagina. Are you ready for a world that replaces bees with third-world-human-beings at below minumum wages?
"I remember that Monsanto and its products have recently been banned from Poland, precisely because its genetically modified maize devastated the bee population in the country. In this context, here is the move of Monsanto is to buy the organization that conducts research in the world on this issue. The matter in surrounded by the fact that the institution in question - they work for the best experts entomologists on the planet - has also recently stated that the Worldwide mortality of bees be found in a certain cause: the products of Monsanto. "
from an article somewhere in the internet...
Let's say that's TRUE.. we don't know for sure.. but let's assume...
In the end, it won't kill ALL the bees EVERYWHERE..
So, Many many bees die... that's quite alright.. Is this really a problem?
At worst Bee farmers may have to move to certain areas so their honey stock stays profitable..
People are really too attached and emotional about conservation of "endangered" animals...
I think dolphins are fine and cool, but if we need an oceanic power generator, and it happens to kill all the dolphins for greatly increased energy production... then dolphins are expendable.
and to those who says, the dolphins are innocent, and we need to live in harmony...
we live AGAINST the forces of nature... and these forces can crush us at ANY MOMENT... Dolphins be damned...
I'd much rather have more power to fuel more scientific research...
At any moment, the sun might release a solar flare that blows through our atmosphere and kill all unshielded electronics on earth..
Dolphins are gonna help us and give us internet back when that happens right?... oh please great dolphins.... fix our cellphones...
Did you really just ignore the fact that bees are responsible for pollinating our plants? Bees don't just produce honey, they are the "slave labor" that takes male plant sperm and puts it in the female plant vagina. Are you ready for a world that replaces bees with third-world-human-beings at below minumum wages?
LOL, bees are not the only bugs that pollinate. they're not even the majority of the pollination.. :D
Read up, and stop trolling..
As to the "winning" I am tiger blood incarnate.. Wchris I'd have to say you're something between a blown ball point pen and ransacked a bird's nest I stepped on... :))
There is no such thing as a "true democracy". There is always a scale. There will always a struggle between freedom and corruption.Lobbying is one of the biggest obstructions towards a true democracy.Oh come on keymaster, there's no such thing as democracy... :D
The main attractions of organic food are much lower exposure of pesticides/herbicides/fungicides that keeps the consumer and the soil healthier.It keeps the planet's entire ecosystem healthier. The eco-system is what sustains us and is the source of all our real wealth. Don't forget that. Throughout history, the civilisations that have thrived the most have always been those with the best conditions for agriculture. Proper organic agriculture sustains those conditions, while xxx-icides and synthetic fertilizers have often been harmful.
LOL, bees are not the only bugs that pollinate. they're not even the majority of the pollination.. :DNot in nature, no. The majority of the insect-pollinated plants on farms and in orchards depend on bees, however.
As to the "winning" I am tiger blood incarnate..What? We have Charlie Sheen on our forum? ;)
There is no such thing as a "true democracy". There is always a scale. There will always a struggle between freedom and corruption.Lobbying is one of the biggest obstructions towards a true democracy.Oh come on keymaster, there's no such thing as democracy... :DThe main attractions of organic food are much lower exposure of pesticides/herbicides/fungicides that keeps the consumer and the soil healthier.It keeps the planet's entire ecosystem healthier. The eco-system is what sustains us and is the source of all our real wealth. Don't forget that. Throughout history, the civilisations that have thrived the most have always been those with the best conditions for agriculture. Proper organic agriculture sustains those conditions, while xxx-icides and synthetic fertilizers have often been harmful.LOL, bees are not the only bugs that pollinate. they're not even the majority of the pollination.. :DNot in nature, no. The majority of the insect-pollinated plants on farms and in orchards depend on bees, however.As to the "winning" I am tiger blood incarnate..What? We have Charlie Sheen on our forum? ;)
are monsanto seeds considered organic?AFAIK monsanto's seed is all genetically engineered... so the answer is no. And monsanto's herbicides would kiil any non-GE crops (even ones being grown conventionally). Their stuff isn't compatible with anything natural or normal.
i mean can a farmer just take monsanto seeds and idk get organic monsanto pesticides and do the whole organic thing and say it's organic wheat or soy even with monsanto seeds?
are monsanto seeds considered organic?AFAIK monsanto's seed is all genetically engineered... so the answer is no. And monsanto's herbicides would kiil any non-GE crops (even ones being grown conventionally). Their stuff isn't compatible with anything natural or normal.
i mean can a farmer just take monsanto seeds and idk get organic monsanto pesticides and do the whole organic thing and say it's organic wheat or soy even with monsanto seeds?
You can use conventionally cultivated plants for organic, but those might not be the best varieties for it. Produce must be free of genetic engineering as one of the criteria for organic certification. And monsanto will not allow any farmer to keep profits from their crops if those crops are shown to have even a tiny amount of monsanto genetic markers in them (even if those genes were accidentally spread on the wind, as they often are).