would really like something with manual transmissiondid you take America's Five Years Manual Transmission Driving Course?
For proven resale value as well as reliability, you can't go wrong with Civic. LX doesn't have vtec does it? It's mighty fun driving a manual honda though :)
new cars? will you just give me a stack of 100 dollar bills so i can burn them in front of you?
STi
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I just looked this up. lol. A 400 h.p. Honda Civic! I'm sure that the price is proportional with the h.p. So, I still I think a Toyota Scion FR-S is a better buy, since it's the best value in sports cars right now, at $26K. If you feel some need to speed around the streets, and act like a menace, that is.
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I just looked this up. lol. A 400 h.p. Honda Civic! I'm sure that the price is proportional with the h.p. So, I still I think a Toyota Scion FR-S is a better buy, since it's the best value in sports cars right now, at $26K. If you feel some need to speed around the streets, and act like a menace, that is.
STi > life
and if going with the fr-s, i'd get the br z for that beautiful subbie blue.
prop's for going manual, I know that's something not most Americans arnt even capable of driving :)
Off-Topic: I can't believe the amount of people in America that learn to drive in an automatic (Next to nobody does in the UK), if you can't drive a manual then sorry but you can't drive :pif you can change gears with your left hand you must be some sort of a ninja
Manual transmission? Really? Last year I finally got rid of a car with manual transmission that I had for eight years. Eight LONG years of manual transmission shifting. Start. Shift up gears 1 through 5, go, shift back down 5-1, stop. Start, shift 1-2-3, traffic, slow, shift 3-2-1, stop. Shift, go, shift, stop, shift, shift, shift. It sucks. On the highway at 80 mph, it's okay. In city traffic, it's a nightmare. Do not get a manual transmission. My recommendation instead is to get the Honda CR-V AWD EXL (but do not get the Honda Navigation package - save the money, 'cuz Honda's Nav system sux - just use your smart phone.) CR-V costs like $4K more than a civic, but it's a much better option, especially for a couple. It has 70 cu. ft. of cargo space, leather seats, Econ button for better gas mileage, and better point-of-view perspective than a tiny civic because you are much higher off the ground. Also it's bigger and safer and has front and side airbags. If you want to go racing around the streets, you should get the Toyota GT 86, or w/e it's called. But why do that? You will either get traffic tickets or into an accident. Get the civilized CR-V, put on the A/C, turn up the USB ipod tunes, engage the cruise control, and ride around in comfort and sophistication.
I just bought a Civic Coupe EX 3 months ago (end of March) and it's been great! At the time, I'd considered the Mazda 3 as well but went with the Civic based on my previous experience with the brand. My previous car was a Honda, wife also has a Honda ('09 Fit Sport). They've really improved it over the 2012 model which btw, has some of the worse reviews ever for Hondas. lol
You can't go wrong with either one tho. :)
Why do you downshift? You're just putting extra strain on your engine and transmission. Put it in neutral and brake. Brakes are easily replaceable.
Why do you downshift? You're just putting extra strain on your engine and transmission. Put it in neutral and brake. Brakes are easily replaceable.
I know what its called, but there's no need to. Especially in a small car. Give yourself enough distance to brake properly.
I know what its called, but there's no need to. Especially in a small car. Give yourself enough distance to brake properly.Years ago it was done because the brakes stunk, then it got to where it was sort of pointless as brakes got better, but we still had carburetors.
My car is 14 years old. I hope it lasts me at least another 6.
My car is 14 years old. I hope it lasts me at least another 6.
why?
have to say on my drives to work I barely ever touch the break (unless I come to a round about or something) and just use the gears to slow me down, so much easier.
Not sure why you'd ever recommend an auto over a manual, unless you just constantly drove on motorways...
My car is 14 years old. I hope it lasts me at least another 6.
why?
Money in the bank!
I'm sure its paid for and the instance isn't so bad.
New car = more Insurance + car payment
That's my working theory.
My car is 14 years old. I hope it lasts me at least another 6.
why?
Money in the bank!
I'm sure its paid for and the instance isn't so bad.
New car = more Insurance + car payment
That's my working theory.
old car more problems?
I've no problem with looking after a car and making it last, but upgrading is also good lol
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
until a 18 year old kid turns it into a rice rocket. sadly :(
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
have to say on my drives to work I barely ever touch the break (unless I come to a round about or something) and just use the gears to slow me down, so much easier.
Not sure why you'd ever recommend an auto over a manual, unless you just constantly drove on motorways...
Are you recommending a manual for cities? I honestly never heard anyone say that before, maybe it's an American or New Yorker thing to prefer auto's for cities. I use to drive around the city using paddle shifters, and even those got really annoying. I can't imagine myself using a tradition manual car set up for a city. On highways where traffic is moving, it's a different story and manuals are more fun to drive.
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
yeah except the problem of them being the target of theft more than pretty much any other car haha
have to say on my drives to work I barely ever touch the break (unless I come to a round about or something) and just use the gears to slow me down, so much easier.
Not sure why you'd ever recommend an auto over a manual, unless you just constantly drove on motorways...
Are you recommending a manual for cities? I honestly never heard anyone say that before, maybe it's an American or New Yorker thing to prefer auto's for cities. I use to drive around the city using paddle shifters, and even those got really annoying. I can't imagine myself using a tradition manual car set up for a city. On highways where traffic is moving, it's a different story and manuals are more fun to drive.
I recommend manuals over auto's for any kind of driving really, its just more enjoyable to drive a manual... I've never driven in the US so I've no idea what the roads are like, but in the UK we have bends and corners... dull as **** to drive in an auto
have to say on my drives to work I barely ever touch the break (unless I come to a round about or something) and just use the gears to slow me down, so much easier.Cities clogged by traffic prefer autos.
Not sure why you'd ever recommend an auto over a manual, unless you just constantly drove on motorways...
My favorite cars were a 20 year old BMW and a 35 year old pickup.My car is 14 years old. I hope it lasts me at least another 6.
why?
The only city you shouldn't drive a manual in, especially if you don't know how to drive one well enough, is San Francisco.You haven't driven in So. Cal. then.
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
until a 18 year old kid turns it into a rice rocket. sadly :(
Is there a reason that I don't understand of why people do this? I am 18 and I never had the idea to modify my car to make it obnoxiously loud or looking like it's been modified. Does louder cars not create a more uncomfortable ride because of the noise? I understand if you want to hear the engine while racing or something, but no need for that sound while driving at 15 to 40 miles per hour. Along with some modified cars which I would assume people would put some stupidly stiff suspensions. Then there is also lowered cars (not air bag lowered), isn't it really dam annoying to drive over speedbumps and out of driveways? In my opinion, modified cars makes me think the person just can't afford a better car and believes that more sound means more power.
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
until a 18 year old kid turns it into a rice rocket. sadly :(
Is there a reason that I don't understand of why people do this? I am 18 and I never had the idea to modify my car to make it obnoxiously loud or looking like it's been modified. Does louder cars not create a more uncomfortable ride because of the noise? I understand if you want to hear the engine while racing or something, but no need for that sound while driving at 15 to 40 miles per hour. Along with some modified cars which I would assume people would put some stupidly stiff suspensions. Then there is also lowered cars (not air bag lowered), isn't it really dam annoying to drive over speedbumps and out of driveways? In my opinion, modified cars makes me think the person just can't afford a better car and believes that more sound means more power.
the same reason why people put clickclacks on their boards that serve no purpose other than looks. or any keycap really.
because they like it.
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
until a 18 year old kid turns it into a rice rocket. sadly :(
Is there a reason that I don't understand of why people do this? I am 18 and I never had the idea to modify my car to make it obnoxiously loud or looking like it's been modified. Does louder cars not create a more uncomfortable ride because of the noise? I understand if you want to hear the engine while racing or something, but no need for that sound while driving at 15 to 40 miles per hour. Along with some modified cars which I would assume people would put some stupidly stiff suspensions. Then there is also lowered cars (not air bag lowered), isn't it really dam annoying to drive over speedbumps and out of driveways? In my opinion, modified cars makes me think the person just can't afford a better car and believes that more sound means more power.Show Image(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rMYQ5lc1Wkk/T4sNI8WUTZI/AAAAAAAAApA/rv5mpf3lTnE/s1600/Ferrari+F430+custom+pimped+tricked+out+exotic+car+adv1+wheels+big+wheels+slammed+lowered+clean+stance+hella+flush+rear.jpg)
this owner would disagree.
and it's the same reason why a lot of people do a lot of stuff.
they like it. they think it looks cool. it isn't for everybody of course.
dude im not going to argue with you other people's choices of what they do to their car.
it's all personal choice, that's the answer to your original question.
dude im not going to argue with you other people's choices of what they do to their car.
it's all personal choice, that's the answer to your original question.
I'm not trying to argue about people's choice of their car, I'm trying to figure out why people must try to wake me up when I'm trying to sleep. Some cars come out of no where on the highway and just speeds pass and you don't hear the noise until after they pass you, which can be scary and in some cases very scary when you have a heart condition when considering the volume of their exhaust.
I'm going to call you Trollpre from now on.
dude im not going to argue with you other people's choices of what they do to their car.
it's all personal choice, that's the answer to your original question.
I'm not trying to argue about people's choice of their car, I'm trying to figure out why people must try to wake me up when I'm trying to sleep. Some cars come out of no where on the highway and just speeds pass and you don't hear the noise until after they pass you, which can be scary and in some cases very scary when you have a heart condition when considering the volume of their exhaust.
report it, i believe there are certain levels of noise a car can make. I know my uncle got pulled over and ticketed due to an extremely loud exhaust.
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Dashcams! Friend and I have been looking into them and we're pretty set on the DOD LS300W, only thing it's lacking is GPS.
I was looking at the BlackVue DR500 before that
Actually, I suggest the Itronics models. They're pretty reliable and pretty clear night and day visions. Blackvue is okay as well, but not as reliable. Both are pretty small.
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Why do you downshift? You're just putting extra strain on your engine and transmission. Put it in neutral and brake. Brakes are easily replaceable.said a true texasite who has never driven in snow and ice!
have to say on my drives to work I barely ever touch the break (unless I come to a round about or something) and just use the gears to slow me down, so much easier.
Not sure why you'd ever recommend an auto over a manual, unless you just constantly drove on motorways...
Are you recommending a manual for cities? I honestly never heard anyone say that before, maybe it's an American or New Yorker thing to prefer auto's for cities. I use to drive around the city using paddle shifters, and even those got really annoying. I can't imagine myself using a tradition manual car set up for a city. On highways where traffic is moving, it's a different story and manuals are more fun to drive.
I recommend manuals over auto's for any kind of driving really, its just more enjoyable to drive a manual... I've never driven in the US so I've no idea what the roads are like, but in the UK we have bends and corners... dull as **** to drive in an auto
I totally understand driving a manual at a road where there isn't many people. Do you, or would you drive a manual in a city like London and recommend it? I leave my car in auto until I hit the highways, then it's either cruise control or manual.
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
until a 18 year old kid turns it into a rice rocket. sadly :(
Is there a reason that I don't understand of why people do this? I am 18 and I never had the idea to modify my car to make it obnoxiously loud or looking like it's been modified. Does louder cars not create a more uncomfortable ride because of the noise? I understand if you want to hear the engine while racing or something, but no need for that sound while driving at 15 to 40 miles per hour. Along with some modified cars which I would assume people would put some stupidly stiff suspensions. Then there is also lowered cars (not air bag lowered), isn't it really dam annoying to drive over speedbumps and out of driveways? In my opinion, modified cars makes me think the person just can't afford a better car and believes that more sound means more power.
the same reason why people put clickclacks on their boards that serve no purpose other than looks. or any keycap really.
because they like it.
Keycaps are for looks, and it doesn't disturb the person next to you unless if they choose to stare at your keyboard. However when some idiot comes driving by at 15 miles per hour in the city, you have no way to mute him. Some people need to sleep. Then on the highway you are cruising at around the speed limit and the person drives at the same speed, no way to mute him unless if you drive far away from him. That means slowing down until he gets far or speeding up and getting away from that person. I just want to leave my car in cruise control. The same for motorcycles too. There is no need for such a loud exhaust while travelling at speeds that should not even be putting a car close to the limits.There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.
until a 18 year old kid turns it into a rice rocket. sadly :(
Is there a reason that I don't understand of why people do this? I am 18 and I never had the idea to modify my car to make it obnoxiously loud or looking like it's been modified. Does louder cars not create a more uncomfortable ride because of the noise? I understand if you want to hear the engine while racing or something, but no need for that sound while driving at 15 to 40 miles per hour. Along with some modified cars which I would assume people would put some stupidly stiff suspensions. Then there is also lowered cars (not air bag lowered), isn't it really dam annoying to drive over speedbumps and out of driveways? In my opinion, modified cars makes me think the person just can't afford a better car and believes that more sound means more power.Show Image(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rMYQ5lc1Wkk/T4sNI8WUTZI/AAAAAAAAApA/rv5mpf3lTnE/s1600/Ferrari+F430+custom+pimped+tricked+out+exotic+car+adv1+wheels+big+wheels+slammed+lowered+clean+stance+hella+flush+rear.jpg)
this owner would disagree.
and it's the same reason why a lot of people do a lot of stuff.
they like it. they think it looks cool. it isn't for everybody of course.
Sports and supercars can be almost silent while driving. I totally understand why a car would be making noise if the driver is trying to accelerate as much as possible. Cursing with such a powerful car will be close to silent if it is in the right gear and not close to it's top speed. The Bugatti Veyron is a great example of a vehicle with power but not much sound. If you ever get a chance to drive one, you would be amazed by it. Too bad Volkswagen decides that most people are too poor to be able to buy a new Bugatti. It makes no sense that even if I was to be able to afford a new Boeing 737 in cash, I can still be considered too poor to be able to own a new Bugatti Veyron. They want to only sell it to people that are worth at least $500 million.
There is a limit to how big you should go on your exhaust, by the way. Do supercars have 3.5" exhausts? There needs to be a sort of pressure to flow.
I had an Integra where I dumped the exhaust as soon as I could, and it was slower that way... I don't think every method fits every application.
There is a limit to how big you should go on your exhaust, by the way. Do supercars have 3.5" exhausts? There needs to be a sort of pressure to flow.
There is a limit to how big you should go on your exhaust, by the way. Do supercars have 3.5" exhausts? There needs to be a sort of pressure to flow.
This is mostly for 2-stroke... for 4 stroke the important bit is in the header where you try to cause the different cylinder exhaust burps to not collide.
Do yourself a favor and shop for new financing. When I did that the company I already had financing through made an offer .75% better than they had given me through the dealer. Ultimately I didn't go with them tho since I scored an unsecured loan at 1% better.
Do yourself a favor and shop for new financing. When I did that the company I already had financing through made an offer .75% better than they had given me through the dealer. Ultimately I didn't go with them tho since I scored an unsecured loan at 1% better.
Well I don't really use credit a lot or at least haven't historically, so I thought the 4.24% was pretty good. Regardless, I have a lot of savings and expect to pay it off in a year (no penalties for this) and don't really mind if $700-800 is lost in the process. That said, I appreciate the suggestion.
You may want to look into refinancing, even if you are planning to pay it off within a year. Car loans typically don't recast automatically, so if you pay it off within a year, you're still paying a total interest charge calculated over the life of the loan (36/48/60/72 months). Even if you don't refinance, might be worth having a CPA take a look at the loan terms and see what the pros and cons would be.
Not a financial expert, just passing along some tips I received in a similar situation. :rolleyes:
We went with the Mazda 3 i Sport 6 speed manualcongratulations! you didn't make the wrong choice.
PS - I don't know what to tell the people who think buying manual is crazy. First, it's what I've been driving my entire life and it's ingrained into my brainnoooo! you are ruining the stereotype!
we'll be in east Orlando and the commute will be under 4 miles. If I was still living in Pittsburgh or any other city with insane stop and go traffic, I probably would have gone with or at least considered the automatic, but we also plan to buy bicycles for getting around and I don't think there will be any regrets going with the manual option.yup, i'd definitely use a bike for such short commute.
As a car enthusiast, I'll state that loud exhausts serve a purpose. The more free flowing an exhaust is, the more performance you'll get from your engine. This typically results in a louder exhaust, which can be negligible to a degree. Sports cars and supercars take pride in making the ride comfortable and enjoyable, and that's why they're quiet and tame at low RPM's. Slap a performance exhaust on it, grab an additional 50HP and that thing will be louder than your neighbors riced out civic.That's just how cars work. In order to silence your car, you need a more restrictive exhaust, which in turn removes power. Want the power back? You have to deal with the noise, which in most cases, is sought after.
Now on to motorcycles. The louder the bike (sport bike / dual sport) the better. Simply because, it's down right more safe. If you're on a stock street bike, cruising on the highway, nobody will hear you or pay attention to you unless you're accelerating extremely quickly. This can be dangerous as people won't pay attention to you and could easily hit you. Now when you have a nice loud bike, people will know where you are at all times and be able to avoid you and not kill the living hell out of you with one flick of the wheel on accident. Everything has its ups and downs.
As a car enthusiast, I'll state that loud exhausts serve a purpose. The more free flowing an exhaust is, the more performance you'll get from your engine. This typically results in a louder exhaust, which can be negligible to a degree. Sports cars and supercars take pride in making the ride comfortable and enjoyable, and that's why they're quiet and tame at low RPM's. Slap a performance exhaust on it, grab an additional 50HP and that thing will be louder than your neighbors riced out civic.That's just how cars work. In order to silence your car, you need a more restrictive exhaust, which in turn removes power. Want the power back? You have to deal with the noise, which in most cases, is sought after.
Now on to motorcycles. The louder the bike (sport bike / dual sport) the better. Simply because, it's down right more safe. If you're on a stock street bike, cruising on the highway, nobody will hear you or pay attention to you unless you're accelerating extremely quickly. This can be dangerous as people won't pay attention to you and could easily hit you. Now when you have a nice loud bike, people will know where you are at all times and be able to avoid you and not kill the living hell out of you with one flick of the wheel on accident. Everything has its ups and downs.
Engine and gear sound you can pretty much hear and they sound fine, but exhaust sounds like someone dribbling super loud. I don't mind someone driving by with a nice engine sound, but really dislike the loud exhaust.
The motorcycle argument is very common. Honestly I have never heard a motorcycle until they passed me, usually driving at 20 miles per hour faster than me. What if I got a shock from the sound and just started swerving? The only time when the exhaust is heard is when they are either cruising next to me, or driving near the same speed. I think such a loud bike is unnecessary dangerous. The exhaust does not point forward, the sound is directed towards the back of the bike.
As a car enthusiast, I'll state that loud exhausts serve a purpose. The more free flowing an exhaust is, the more performance you'll get from your engine. This typically results in a louder exhaust, which can be negligible to a degree. Sports cars and supercars take pride in making the ride comfortable and enjoyable, and that's why they're quiet and tame at low RPM's. Slap a performance exhaust on it, grab an additional 50HP and that thing will be louder than your neighbors riced out civic.That's just how cars work. In order to silence your car, you need a more restrictive exhaust, which in turn removes power. Want the power back? You have to deal with the noise, which in most cases, is sought after.
Now on to motorcycles. The louder the bike (sport bike / dual sport) the better. Simply because, it's down right more safe. If you're on a stock street bike, cruising on the highway, nobody will hear you or pay attention to you unless you're accelerating extremely quickly. This can be dangerous as people won't pay attention to you and could easily hit you. Now when you have a nice loud bike, people will know where you are at all times and be able to avoid you and not kill the living hell out of you with one flick of the wheel on accident. Everything has its ups and downs.
Engine and gear sound you can pretty much hear and they sound fine, but exhaust sounds like someone dribbling super loud. I don't mind someone driving by with a nice engine sound, but really dislike the loud exhaust.
The motorcycle argument is very common. Honestly I have never heard a motorcycle until they passed me, usually driving at 20 miles per hour faster than me. What if I got a shock from the sound and just started swerving? The only time when the exhaust is heard is when they are either cruising next to me, or driving near the same speed. I think such a loud bike is unnecessary dangerous. The exhaust does not point forward, the sound is directed towards the back of the bike.
Sound travels in many directions and unless that bike is going faster than 780MPH the sound of his bike is going to get to you before he does. That's just science. And you do not hear engine noise practically ever. All the noise you hear is exhaust. How loud it is and the sound it makes is determined by pipe size, shape, and length. And furthermore, if you get scared by the sound of a motorcycle whizzing by and begin to swerve, you shouldn't even be driving in the first place. What if you're drifting into another person's lane late at night and they beep at you. Are you going to get scared and swerve into the jersey barrier? There is no argument here. Loud bikes are heard more than quiet bikes and often result in recognition and better safety. Car exhausts are all different. Some can sound good, some can sound bad. If you simply cut your exhaust off after the header, it's going to sound obnoxiously loud and usually bad. If you run a 3" stainless pipe from header / turbo back, it's usually going to sound good.
Sound does travel in many directions, but does that mean it will be equally loud regardless of the direction you point the exhaust in? Concerts don't have their speakers facing away from their audience because the direction the sound is directed at does matter. A horn is much more quiet than the exhaust you hear most of the times. I wouldn't be the one drifting into another lane, my car wouldn't even let me if I tried. I care about my passengers too, a crying baby takes a while to stop. Although I do not know much about cars, I do believe the gears (maybe not the engine) in a car does make sounds. For example, an spur gear based vehicle will create a high pitched sound, whereas a helical gear vehicle will create a sound heard in most vehicles that is not in reverse mode.
Thanks everyone! I read a lot of the early replies, but really didn't have time to reply with car hunting going on.
We went with the Mazda 3 i Sport 6 speed manual (Pick it up tomorrow), got our trade in off while being able to keep it, and paid ~$3000 less than MSRP. We also decided to finance instead, mainly because we really like the car, but also due to the 4.24% APR. We test drove quite a few other sub compacts and nothing else really had a "fun feeling". Also added in the extended 3 year bumper to bumper warranty for $900, extending it to 6 years/72,000 miles. The only potential regret is not waiting for the 2014 model, but we could really use a new car right now and I'm liking the smiley face front end lol.
I have never owned a car that wasn't at least 10 years old and I think I would have been happy with just about anything we looked at, but like I mentioned above this thing is fun to drive compared to the others. I'd also like to add that shopping for new cars is very stressful (Did most of this while 4grabs was happening lol). I thought it was going to be all fun and stress free, but I was definitely wrong and I'm so glad it's over now.
PS - I don't know what to tell the people who think buying manual is crazy. First, it's what I've been driving my entire life and it's ingrained into my brain, but more importantly, we'll be in east Orlando and the commute will be under 4 miles. If I was still living in Pittsburgh or any other city with insane stop and go traffic, I probably would have gone with or at least considered the automatic, but we also plan to buy bicycles for getting around and I don't think there will be any regrets going with the manual option.
We went with the Mazda 3 i Sport 6 speed manual
There is no such thing as "old care more problems" when it comes to older gen Civics.The hell there isn't... my first car was a 1992 Civic that proved to be a freaking money pit. I eventually replaced it with a 2005 Mazda 3, which was a superior car in every imaginable way. (It pained me to sell the Mazda when I moved to Europe.)
I use BlackVue DR400 HD II, but they tend to overheat, so I don't leave it in the car while it's parked in a hot sunny day. Winter is fine. I like the "parking mode" it has.
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I know what its called, but there's no need to. Especially in a small car. Give yourself enough distance to brake properly.
That is proper braking. I also down shift in my automatic rather than ride the brakes down a hill.
Off-Topic: I can't believe the amount of people in America that learn to drive in an automatic (Next to nobody does in the UK), if you can't drive a manual then sorry but you can't drive :pif you can change gears with your left hand you must be some sort of a ninja
Why do you downshift? You're just putting extra strain on your engine and transmission. Put it in neutral and brake. Brakes are easily replaceable.