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Title: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:30:19: Folks,

With the aid of the mkawa brand krytoxapullt and a lot of elbow grease, i've manage to pack a couple dozen vials of krytox GPL 206 to varying degrees. I'd like to send some of them off to test my early version of the packaging method and look for changes to optimize the package's usefulness for everyone.

Because the lube kits are very much a beta test, I will be selling them at a discount compared to the completed kits.

i also have a gigantic box full of those PS2 to USB adapters that need to be sold.

PRICING:

BETA LUBE KIT: ~20g krytox 1506 oil, ~8g krytox 206 grease, clean 5ml syringe with 27ga scabbarded luer lock needle. 12$ + shipping

RTM ID Innovations Multimode PS2 to USB keyboard adapter: 12$ + shipping

At the moment I only have the capability to ship to CONUS. Payment will be via Paypal. Shipping should be between 2 and 3 dollars to anywhere in the CONUS. If you have a terrible local USPS hub that destroys all your mail PLEASE ORDER!! I want to make sure my packaging system will stand up to USPS's worst!

-KAWA

HOW TO ORDER: send me a PM with your shipping address, paypal email address and requested order. I will send you a paypal money request. when paid, i will then pack and ship. I WILL ACCEPT DOMESTIC US ORDERS AS WELL AS ORDERS TO KOREA, CANADA, UK, AUSTRALIA, and NORTHERN EUROPE. ALL INTERNATIONAL ORDER PMs MUST INCLUDE A PHONE NUMBER FOR CUSTOMS
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: lcs on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:31:57: Send one to my proxy mkawa. University handling must be terrible :P
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: actionbastard on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:38:43: I'd be in for a lube kit.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:40:54: im in as soon as its not conus only
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: boost on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:51:51: I'll take 2 lube kits. Invoice me yo!!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: JPG on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:18:23: If you want to test how shipping works in Canada PM me! ;D
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Jrwestcoast on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:24:10: I will take one of the lube kits and will let you know how it does. I have had some packages completely destroyed.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:36:09: You want to test your packaging? Send it to me dude.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 11 August 2013, 13:18:41: You needed a UK guinea pig? :))
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 11 August 2013, 13:30:54: Quote from: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:30:19
If you have a terrible local USPS hub that destroys all your mail
^-^ that's me
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 13:45:23: Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 11 August 2013, 13:18:41
You needed a UK guinea pig? :))
PM ME!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 11 August 2013, 14:36:38: 1 lube kit please
PM'd, invoice plox
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: JPG on Sun, 11 August 2013, 14:37:56: 1 lube kit for Canada! PM sent ;D
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 15:12:59: mohit, if you want one i'm willing to try FC mail to india, but i don't really expect it to arrive, so my advice: don't waste your money ;) wait till we have a robust international shipping solution.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 15:16:06: Quote from: lcs on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:31:57
Send one to my proxy mkawa. University handling must be terrible :P
PM ME!!! i definitely want to test two-hop shipping out to south america.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 August 2013, 15:17:04: I'd be interested in USB adaptor or two when not CONUS only.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 11 August 2013, 15:38:23: Paid :D
/me is excited
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Topre on Sun, 11 August 2013, 16:54:13: I'll take a kit for a discount. :p
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 18:34:48: Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 11 August 2013, 15:17:04
I'd be interested in USB adaptor or two when not CONUS only.

rowdy, i owe you a usb adapter from the last buy. PM me please!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: n0rvig on Sun, 11 August 2013, 22:40:27: Quote from: JPG on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:18:23
If you want to test how shipping works in Canada PM me! ;D

Awe! I wanted to be the Canadian guinea pig! gj
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: affect656 on Sun, 11 August 2013, 22:43:23: I would order one and get them sent to my parents house for future retrieval but if you really want I'll get it to sent to my APO AP address which is a US address that ships it overseas to Korea, and boxes get banged up. Let me know?
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: JPG on Sun, 11 August 2013, 22:44:38: Quote from: n0rvig on Sun, 11 August 2013, 22:40:27
Quote from: JPG on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:18:23
If you want to test how shipping works in Canada PM me! ;D

Awe! I wanted to be the Canadian guinea pig! gj

Oink!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 23:13:02: as of this writing there are 19 beta lube kits left.

i'll take a second canadian. n0rvig, PM me your order. include your phone number for customs.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 23:14:19: Quote from: affect656 on Sun, 11 August 2013, 22:43:23
I would order one and get them sent to my parents house for future retrieval but if you really want I'll get it to sent to my APO AP address which is a US address that ships it overseas to Korea, and boxes get banged up. Let me know?
yep, APO is perfect. PM me your order with the APO address
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 11 August 2013, 23:16:14: pm sent for a lube kit!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 August 2013, 23:53:37: 17 left!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Topre on Mon, 12 August 2013, 01:12:09: Here is a tip, if you want the package to be throw around then put a handle with care or fragile sticker on it. You can also put custom stickers requesting it to be thrown around and kicked. I have a feeling both packages will be equally damaged if you do that.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MTManiac on Mon, 12 August 2013, 01:29:15: Quote from: Topre on Mon, 12 August 2013, 01:12:09
Here is a tip, if you want the package to be throw around then put a handle with care or fragile sticker on it. You can also put custom stickers requesting it to be thrown around and kicked. I have a feeling both packages will be equally damaged if you do that.
There is much truth to what is said here, sad to say I know people who look for the handle with care packages to use for punting practice, oh well they always loose at the poker table, karma is a ***** hehe
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 03:00:11: HAH

i wish i had some, but i'd have to stand in line for an hour to get like one or two stickers, and well, let's just say the window workers at my local PO do not. like. me. at all.

so, someone has been asking me about how to use the lube kits, and for some reason i wrote a novel in response (and this is separate from the instructions i wrote and am including with every order.

Quote
So if I'm understanding correctly, I want to use a mixture of oil and grease on the sliders of the switch and the little feet things, and just oil on the spring and stem.

Is there any specific ratio I should be going by for the mixture?
the irony here is that i don't personally lube switches so i have no idea what people actually do with this lube. i just know they want it and they've had to do weird shady things to get it in the past. i'm providing a way to put a single drop of lube OR lube/grease mix anywhere you want. i'm not actually sure if this is how people use the krytox, it's how i personally use krytox, but i tend to lube machine parts, joints and other bushings and bearings with it.

i would just go to the lube thread and ask people how they do it. i know some people (i was talking with nubbinator in particular) like to use a fine paintbrush and just get a sheen, and they use the grease/oil mixture everywhere. however, some people like to do other stuff. i know limmy also uses a heavier mineral oil, but i don't recommend mixing krytox with a mineral oil. krytox doesn't like petro oils, and krytox lasts much much longer than petro oils. just replace the petro oil with a more viscous krytox mix.

as far as ratio is concerned, i've done some testing with the specific combo i have on hand and you can go pretty high, as high as 3:1 oil to grease and still get something that's quite viscous at room temperature. however, the dupont chemist felt that somewhere between 1.3:1 and 2:1 was about right and you wouldn't get much better performance above that ratio; my feeling is that he is probably right. you want the oil to seem a bit heavier and more viscous. viscosity is actually separate from lubridicity. oddly, and especially with these fluoropolymers, you can have a viscous oil that significantly reduces the coefficient of friction. it's kind of the beauty of PFPE and PTFE, actually. you can have this viscous oil that stays in one place, but has an extremely low coefficient of friction.

to see an example of this in a less exotic situation, think of PTFE mouse feet. they are quite slippery, right? however, they're completely solid. although we normally think of coefficient of friction as being proportional to viscosity, that's really only true for certain types of oils, specifically petro-based oils and silicone-based oils. it's not true of fluoropolymers.

the secret to fluorinated materials is that they just don't like other substances. they don't mix with them, they don't get along with them. they're just kind of like

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png)

the reason why is very basic chemistry. fluorine is an incredibly reactive halogen, but because it's so reactive, once it forms a stable bond with something, it becomes exceedingly inert. so PTFE and PFPE, which are the class of polymers that krytox belongs to, are all fluorine capped. their polymer compounds are these long strings of organic compounds with really nice properties that we want, and then to protect the polymer stringest, fluorine is placed in a highly stable bond as a cap on every endpoint. to make a macroscopic biological analogy, these polymers are kind of like micro-organisms that form hardened cell membranes and hibernate to hide and survive over long periods of time; tuberculosis does this, as do many other very highly drug resistant bacteria.

that said, there are a lot of friction points in a cherry switch (same with an alps switch, buckling spring, etc.). some of those friction points make the switch more pleasant to type on -- like the distinct tactile bump on a factory green. some of those friction points make the switch less pleasant to type on -- like the scratchy sliding action of a factory cherry black. so it really depends on your preferences. where do you want there to be less friction? _those_ are the points that you want to put a drop or a sheen or what have you of lube on.

once you get into it and realize how amazing this stuff is, you'll find that there's a ton of stuff that can benefit from krytox as well. i lubricate box joints on hand tools with it (feels... so... good..), nearly anything with a bushing or bearing on it, and so on...

just remember that the grease has a 260C hard limit at which the PTFE matrix melts (although the oil in the 206 may start off-gassing before then, it is generally good up to 200C), so it's also definitely good for some automotive applcations, small machines (like 3d printers :D), and all kinds of other junk. heck, if you have a particularly noisy door...

so anyway, what you want to remember is that what i'm doing here is trying to get literally the highest end bleeding edge lubricant to everyone as a nice reasonable price. using it is really up to you. it's been a lot of work to get to this point, but i have no doubt that you guys can come up with cool and effective ways to use it.

in fact, here's one: you now how some caps are tighter than others on cherry cruciforms? have a particularly tight cap? a single drop of oil is probably enough to clear that up without contaminating every other part of the cap.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Topre on Mon, 12 August 2013, 03:26:07: You can print your own stickers using envelope or shipping labels.

Since it seems like you like writing, how much Krytox 1506 can I drink before getting diarrhea, extreme diarrhea and before dying?

Imagine making a waterpark with Krytox, you would see people slipping everywhere! A slide with Krytox would be fun though. :))
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 06:40:45: a truck dispatch office just called me :|

according to the msds: http://msds.dupont.com/msds/pdfs/EN/PEN_09004a35804e560f.pdf

they tried this with a rat, and you'd have to eat more than 110% of your body weight to die from eating GPL 20x greases. the rat probably died from its stomach exploding and not from exposure to the polymer.

either that or the rat just stopped eating and they couldn't make the rat suffer any ill effects so they just reported that it would have to be more than 110% of your body weight.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 06:49:45: i just realized that this is a good thing because almost everything i own has a trace amount of krytox on it now.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 12 August 2013, 09:23:07: I'd be happy to take one of the kits, but I don't have a unique situation at all. Just a regular small town post office that takes great care of things, delivered to a house with no issues. But if you need to unload some of the packs I'd take one. :)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 11:56:29: sure, send me your order. the beta kits are all ready to go out, and i'm not only testing shipping but the kits themselves (for feedback)

i believe there are 14 or 15 kits left btw
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 12 August 2013, 12:05:53: PM sent. Never lubed switches before, this should be interesting. :)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 12 August 2013, 15:28:20: Payment sent. Should be good.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 15:29:34: Kawa you wanna try sending to me in Canada or can I just pick up at Keycon :p
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 15:49:46: can't bring on plane. PM me your order. i'm completely opening it up to AUS, KR, CAN and the UK now. All of Northern Europe, France and other G8 countries are generally OK as well (Spain and Italy, as you guys know, can be iffy. If you're willing to accept the risk though, I'll ship to you).
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 15:51:35: 12 kits left

NOTE: prices will DEFINITELY be going up after this beta test. If you want the maximum amount of raw krytoxican material for the least cost, now is the time to get a kit. I will be vending more niceties later, but costs are going to have to go up to compensate.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59: HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:02:46: Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

wow shoot I better be care
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Xenderwind on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:05:12: Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.
I think I'm more worried about the greasy poops than the dying part.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:06:39: Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:02:46
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

wow shoot I better be care

request: pic of sifo 50% dying
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:06:47: Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

Did you buy over 800 pounds of it? I hope you did.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:34:07: someone clearly wants to live their life on the edge.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 12 August 2013, 23:56:15: Now the chances of us dying just sky-rocketed.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: hoggy on Tue, 13 August 2013, 00:53:55: I could go on a diet while I wait for my package to arrive...
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 13 August 2013, 12:04:48: slightly less than 10 beta kits left
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 13 August 2013, 12:07:36: Quote from: mkawa on Tue, 13 August 2013, 12:04:48
slightly less than 10 beta kits left

Have these shipped yet? Or are you waiting until all are sold before shipping.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 13 August 2013, 13:06:57: everything paid for so far has shipped. i was a doof and forgot to enter email addresses for the domestic shipments. if you need to know your tracking, pm me
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 13 August 2013, 13:37:23: Lube me up, sir ;).
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 13 August 2013, 16:36:43: 7 (?) sets left.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 14 August 2013, 12:59:04: Just as a data point, I got the USB adapters today - northern Virginia.

Thanks!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: oTurtlez on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:04:20: Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:06:39
Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:02:46
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

wow shoot I better be care

request: pic of sifo 50% dying

Did someone request a pic of sifo dying?

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:08:31: Quote from: oTurtlez on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:04:20
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:06:39
Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:02:46
Show Image
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

wow shoot I better be care

request: pic of sifo 50% dying

Did someone request a pic of sifo dying?

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg) (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg)

or sifo dyeing

[attach=1]
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 14 August 2013, 14:40:11: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:08:31
Quote from: oTurtlez on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:04:20
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:06:39
Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:02:46
Show Image
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

wow shoot I better be care

request: pic of sifo 50% dying

Did someone request a pic of sifo dying?

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg) (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg)

or sifo dyeing

[attach=1]

Epic LMAO!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Xenderwind on Wed, 14 August 2013, 15:31:17: Got my lube kit today. Everything arrived safely, at least I think. I have not fully unwrapped the lube yet since I saw small amounts of lube on the wrapping at I got further down (and I don't have any gloves). But I'm going to attest that to either a really really small leak, or the fact that you probably have lube everywhere in your house. The syringe is safe as well. I can take pics if needed, but trying to eat atm :D.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 14 August 2013, 15:37:14: Got mine today, a little bit leaked out and got on the wrapping and the skinny bottles. but not a lot from what I can tell.

Its not a big deal, just thought you should know.

Thanks a lot mkawa.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 14 August 2013, 17:10:51: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:08:31
Quote from: oTurtlez on Wed, 14 August 2013, 13:04:20
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:06:39
Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:02:46
Show Image
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:59:59
HOLD THE PRESSES FOLKS

i've just discovered that IF YOU EAT 3.7 TIMES YOUR BODY MASS IN KRYTOX OIL, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF DYING

be careful out there guys.

wow shoot I better be care

request: pic of sifo 50% dying

Did someone request a pic of sifo dying?

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg) (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chest-pain-25574981.jpg)

or sifo dyeing

[attach=1]

YYEESSSSSssssssssss.......

umm, yes, the vials are slippery because i literally have krytox everywhere in my apartment, and myself. basically 24/7. if it's not clear that a significantly amount got out of the vial (the oil vial would be like half empty most likely), it was probably either a slight pressure issue or just the grease that was on all the grease vials migrating with heat cycles in hot trucks. i have one report of a straight up smashed oil vial, but that was with those damned 3x4 envelopes that i won't be using ever again. for anything.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:37:33: Mwaka what is the procedure for washing this stuff off?
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Xenderwind on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:40:59: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:37:33
Mwaka what is the procedure for washing this stuff off?

There was actually a part of the note that was included that states:
There are exactly seven solvents that dissolve krytox products and: six of them cause cancer, and the last one is the chemical equivalent of an anti-krytox, except it costs three times as much and is nearly impossible to purchase. Also, it may cause cancer. You have been warned.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:54:59: i buy the big packs of microfiber cloths from costco and wipe everything down. when a towel is saturated with krytox, i rinse it out and dry. after enough cycles of this, the towels become pretty useless and have to be tossed.. the costco microfibers are about 0.4USD each, so it ends up working out. all future shipments will come with at least one pair of disposable gloves (the note actually states that every pack comes with a pair of gloves, but i doofed and forgot the gloves for the first 10 shipments or so.

there are 5 or 6 beta kits left. after this, prices go up, so if you want krytox in the US, now is a pretty good time. more niceties will come in later packs, but they will have to cost more.

there will be super cute heart stickers though. hat tip to jocelyn for that one.

note that the problem with trying to dissolve krytox polymers is that you release flourine. flourine unbonded is an extremely nasty, corrosive substance. hence, badness. the least toxic solvent for krytox is actually another PFPE that is designed to attract the PFPE base in krytox products and bond to them, and then there's some chemical magic that I don't understand. However, even this product has a max exposure of 750 PPM; ie, it is toxic.

krytox itself is completely, wildly non-toxic. so the best cleanup procedure is probably some rags and time. yes, eventually everything you own will have a trace amount of krytox on it, but i've been living in trace amounts of krytox all week/end and it's not so bad -- everything is just slightly less frictiony. also, it's odorless and tasteless. so basically, i'm unable to tell via the usual methods that there is krytox everywhere. i just know because there has to be.

one should also note that the reason i have krytox everywhere is because i did a horrible job trying to pack the beta kits and i have 20-30lbs of it in my living room. the few grams in each kit won't get nearly as far, frankly.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 August 2013, 20:33:00: Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:54:59
i have 20-30lbs of it in my living room.

You could kill a tiny baby with that. If you force fed it to them.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 20:44:38: Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:54:59
i buy the big packs of microfiber cloths from costco and wipe everything down. when a towel is saturated with krytox, i rinse it out and dry. after enough cycles of this, the towels become pretty useless and have to be tossed.. the costco microfibers are about 0.4USD each, so it ends up working out. all future shipments will come with at least one pair of disposable gloves (the note actually states that every pack comes with a pair of gloves, but i doofed and forgot the gloves for the first 10 shipments or so.

there are 5 or 6 beta kits left. after this, prices go up, so if you want krytox in the US, now is a pretty good time. more niceties will come in later packs, but they will have to cost more.

there will be super cute heart stickers though. hat tip to jocelyn for that one.

note that the problem with trying to dissolve krytox polymers is that you release flourine. flourine unbonded is an extremely nasty, corrosive substance. hence, badness. the least toxic solvent for krytox is actually another PFPE that is designed to attract the PFPE base in krytox products and bond to them, and then there's some chemical magic that I don't understand. However, even this product has a max exposure of 750 PPM; ie, it is toxic.

krytox itself is completely, wildly non-toxic. so the best cleanup procedure is probably some rags and time. yes, eventually everything you own will have a trace amount of krytox on it, but i've been living in trace amounts of krytox all week/end and it's not so bad -- everything is just slightly less frictiony. also, it's odorless and tasteless. so basically, i'm unable to tell via the usual methods that there is krytox everywhere. i just know because there has to be.

one should also note that the reason i have krytox everywhere is because i did a horrible job trying to pack the beta kits and i have 20-30lbs of it in my living room. the few grams in each kit won't get nearly as far, frankly.

So basically don't use krytox to moisturize the cat.

Unless they are stuck somewhere, then it might come in handy.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 14 August 2013, 20:57:09: cats are already pretty slippery little critters. i really don't think they need it.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: korrelate on Wed, 14 August 2013, 23:51:36: PMed!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: actionbastard on Thu, 15 August 2013, 03:02:23: Got mine today, mine was pretty much same as Cody's. vial's were closed but a little oily.

Didn't get around to messing with the lube today though, my ErgoDox also came in and I spent literally 6 or 7 hours putting it together. But it's done, and works. :thumb:
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 15 August 2013, 09:45:42: awesome!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:13:10: I've wished more times than I can remember that I was in the US this week.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:16:39: Quote from: mohitgarg on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:13:10
I've wished more times than I can remember that I was in the US this week.

But then you couldn't do all the awesome stickers, acrylic keys, etc!!! ;)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: boost on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:23:14: Got my kits in!!!!

anyone wanna "test" the lube by lubing 500 switches for me ;)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:27:23: Quote from: boost on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:23:14
Got my kits in!!!!

anyone wanna "test" the lube by lubing 500 switches for me ;)

I'm still debating if I want to relube mine. I just used the cheap teflon stuff last time but that was only a couple weeks ago. I'd hate to have to desolder all the switches and open them again, but at least I have a switch tool this time.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:27:34: Quote from: boost on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:23:14
Got my kits in!!!!

anyone wanna "test" the lube by lubing 500 switches for me ;)
Send it my way! :P

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:16:39
Quote from: mohitgarg on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:13:10
I've wished more times than I can remember that I was in the US this week.

But then you couldn't do all the awesome stickers, acrylic keys, etc!!! ;)
I know, I had this discussion int he PM with HoffmanMyster, and said what I said earlier and in the same line, what you mentioned.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:28:47: Quote from: boost on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:23:14
Got my kits in!!!!

anyone wanna "test" the lube by lubing 500 switches for me ;)

all at once :o

just put all the switches in a BIG zip lock bag then dump in lube and shake...
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 August 2013, 13:52:03: Quote from: mohitgarg on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:27:34
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:16:39
Quote from: mohitgarg on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:13:10
I've wished more times than I can remember that I was in the US this week.

But then you couldn't do all the awesome stickers, acrylic keys, etc!!! ;)
I know, I had this discussion int he PM with HoffmanMyster, and said what I said earlier and in the same line, what you mentioned.

You'll just have to come visit around the time of KeyCon 2014! :D

On topic: can't wait to receive my kit! Should get it by this weekend when I go home.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 15 August 2013, 15:45:53: 4 kits left. last chance to get yours shipped before i leave for keycon
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 17 August 2013, 21:33:41: lubed recieved
thanks dood
accidentally touched the plastic wrapping around the bottles, and now my keycaps are greasy x_x
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 18 August 2013, 00:26:02: All the lube showed up intact with scary latex gloves that made me think I was dealing with death in tiny syringes.
Love the instructions too. Maybe just give a link to an online document with that information in the invoice or receipt to save paper?
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:44:50: 1) they're nitrile gloves, so safe if you have a latex allergy!

2) at some point the geekhackers storefront will have all this documentation. this was something i wrote up in the rush to get the beta kits out. i wanted to personally thank everyone who was willing to try out my first effort at this personally, and that's why you always leave a note.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:49:30: Exceptionally serious reply to a warm and joking post. I'll go back to not posting now :).
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:25:24: IT WAS ALL JUST EXCUSE FOR THE ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT REFERENCE
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:18:20: If I was to say... spill some of this. what is the best way to clean it up? dawn dish soap? isopropyl alcohol?
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:19:14: disposable microfiber cloth
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:21:04: Quote from: Xenderwind on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:40:59
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:37:33
Mwaka what is the procedure for washing this stuff off?

There was actually a part of the note that was included that states:
There are exactly seven solvents that dissolve krytox products and: six of them cause cancer, and the last one is the chemical equivalent of an anti-krytox, except it costs three times as much and is nearly impossible to purchase. Also, it may cause cancer. You have been warned.

nevermind I see this now. it sounds like trolling though. :(

edit: wow.... this stuff is crazy. lol must get some.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:44:10: http://www2.dupont.com/Lubricants/en_US/assets/downloads/H-58520-4,%20Solvents%20for%20Krytox.pdf
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:41:32: ... and i think we're all out of beta kits now! thanks for your orders everyone!! :)

on wednesday i will retrieve the last of the parts for the pre-RTM kits (i think there's one more thing i want to include in the final final-ish kits -- a larger diameter needle for suction-filling with the plunger... but i'm still trying to decide if it will actually help or just drive up the cost of the kits for no good reason. 5ccs just doesn't give you that much vacuum unfortunately..).

matt3o has been hard at work on the storefront and i'm hoping at least a beta version will go up by next week so that kits can be ordered properly. i also have dyesubbed spacebars from imsto coming in at some point that i know a number of you have been waiting patiently for, and something something i can't remember).

ok anyway, if you've contacted me with an order in the last couple days, i will get back to you by wednesday pacific time at the latest.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: JPG on Mon, 19 August 2013, 18:59:12: I got my lube today. Seems okay, a little oil evaporated, but it's very few. The package did it's job!

Thx Kawa :thumb:
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:09:17: yes! through canuck customs!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:24:53: oh by the way, nothing evaporated. i left a little room in each vial because the density of the oil and grease lower slightly when heated (by quite a bit, but you never know with mail)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: korrelate on Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:36:25: Received my beta package yesterday. Very timely shipping. Thanks mkawa!!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 02:43:26: Got my ****, but u already know it Gucci
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: thadood on Thu, 22 August 2013, 09:20:39: Glad I was able to place a finish line order!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 22 August 2013, 16:36:05: Got my shipment yesterday. It probably arrived earlier but I only just checked the mailbox.

Love the instructions. My muscles are tired because I'm a geek.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:15:51: Mine arrived today - thanks!

Only 12 days - that might be a record.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 23 August 2013, 01:05:13: yes!

i have 16 pre-RTM kits packed. these are the same as the beta kits with a few exceptions: ALL of them contain gloves. i have included a swizzle stick for mixing and moving around the grease (beta+ kits also have this). finally, the grease vials have a much wider mouth which makes them quite a bit easier to work with. Price on these is 16$ USD. Same shipping restrictions as before. I will not ship into china or SE asia, as they still come with hypodermic needles, and i don't want anyone to get put in jail (yeeps!)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 23 August 2013, 06:58:44: rowdy didn't order any lube by the way. still need to test lube packs into australia. anyone in australia need krytox? :D
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 23 August 2013, 16:23:19: rowdy in australia
rowdy gets krytox lube
rowdy didn't order krytox lube
need to test shipping to australia

Now I am confused.

I really want to get some lube, however I am a MX Blue fan and lube will dampen the feel I love. What to do. First world problems. :-\
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 23 August 2013, 18:29:46: Rowdy received three PS/2 to USB adaptors, and in the spirit of transparency, Rowdy did not receive any latex gloves, although there was a nice instruction leaflet included that said something about wearing the gloves while using the rest of the package. Rowdy was a bit worried to plug a PS/2 keyboard in without the gloves.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: affect656 on Fri, 23 August 2013, 20:18:33: Picked it up yesterday but I think it got there like a week earlier. Package was fine
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 24 August 2013, 06:10:33: Finely sense creeping back to the thread.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 25 August 2013, 10:42:02: so i have a huge number of kits of various revisions (tiny changes in packaging basically) available for sale. the website isn't up because matt3o found some work (yay!), and i have a massive world-smashing deadline, but if you PM me your order to anywhere except muslim and SE asian countries, I will send you your goods. again, our stock is krytox lube packs (~8g GPL 206 grease and ~18g 1506 VPF oil) and ID innovations multimode (serial to usb and ps2 to usb) usb adapters. they don't use the familiar FTDI chipset, but thank gives them the ability to switch between serial and ps2 mode. note that in ps2 mode, they're made to interface with ps2 keyboards only. if you have a particularly weird ps2 keyboard, or a device that you want to act like a ps2 keyboard, there's a third firmware that emulates a HID keyboard but i believe takes its input as txrx.

i should note that because of this, they're actually really cool little hacker toys and not just ps2 to usb adapters. that said, my primary reason for stocking them is that they work extremely well with very old model Ms. in terms of providing power over the ps2 connector and reconnecting if your M controller is flakey, they are absolutely tops.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:25:42: SUPER CUTE HEART STICKERS ARE A GO

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-08-26%2021.24.15.jpg)

THANKS TO JOCELYN FOR THE IDEA!!!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 27 August 2013, 04:05:27: Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:25:42
SUPER CUTE HEART STICKERS ARE A GO

Show Image
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-08-26%2021.24.15.jpg)

THANKS TO JOCELYN FOR THE IDEA!!!

DO WE PUT THEM ON OUR NIPPLES?

but seriously what do they do
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 August 2013, 06:35:30: Quote from: Meiosis on Tue, 27 August 2013, 04:05:27
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:25:42
SUPER CUTE HEART STICKERS ARE A GO

Show Image
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-08-26%2021.24.15.jpg)

THANKS TO JOCELYN FOR THE IDEA!!!

DO WE PUT THEM ON OUR NIPPLES?

but seriously what do they do

They bring smiles to faces!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: thadood on Tue, 27 August 2013, 08:27:31: Got mah loobs in yesterday. Scary warning about cancers is scary. Thanks, buddy! Can't wait to try it out.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 27 August 2013, 08:59:08: Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:25:42
SUPER CUTE HEART STICKERS ARE A GO

Show Image
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-08-26%2021.24.15.jpg)

THANKS TO JOCELYN FOR THE IDEA!!!

Printing is off :P
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 10:59:11: my laserprinter is not a precision instrument in any way shape or form :P
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 27 August 2013, 12:39:32: Quote from: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 10:59:11
my laserprinter is not a precision instrument in any way shape or form :P

LOL, where did you get those heart shaped stickers precut?
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:09:37: ping carol @ kimmericstudio.com. she's awesome!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:12:28: here in Merica you can also get them at office depot/staples/ or just about any office supply company or craft store.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:14:54: ok seriously folks, there is no solvent for krytox that's easily available and non-toxic. i've gotten a lot of questions about how to get krytox off of stuff. the short answer is this: go to some fluffy microfiber cloths. my favorite are the costco yellow ones. they're really cheap, and you can use them for EVERYTHING then toss them when they get gross. step 2! wipe surface aggressively with a fresh cloth. the wicking action of the microfiber absorbs the vast majority of either the grease or the oil (both of them are mostly oil. the stuff that's not oil is a teflon matrix and large and solid; it will just by abraded away by the polyester fibers). that's it! there might be stains that are trace amounts of oil after you do this. if they bother you (you should barely be able to feel them), just take another surface of the cloth or another cloth and wipe vigorously. again, that is it. polyester is WAY harder than anything in the lubricant and the lubricant polymers are smaller than the micro bit of the microfibers, and they even like the polyester! they're good buddies so make them happy :D

however, DO NOT THROW SOLVENTS AT KRYTOX. i don't care what it is. if it's a ketone, acid, alcohol, whatever, it won't do a damn thing to the krytox except make it angry* and probably dissolve the thing that the krytox is sitting on. I REPEAT: DO NOT USE SOLVENTS WITH KRYTOX. you will damage things. krytox cannot damage things. only solvents can damage things.

*just kidding, krytox never gets angry. that's why i got heart stickers to label it! krytox loves you!!!

ps, the slick looking stain is most likely just some oil getting into a porous material. there is none left at the surface. it's just that the material you put it on had very very tiny holes in it, holes that were small enough for the krytox polymers to cozy in to. those polymers are just going to sit there being inert until the end of time or until you shave off enough of the porous material. if you get really fine microfiber that also fits into the same holes, it will lift away the krytox, but seriously, don't worry about it. KRYTOX DOES NOT REACT WITH ANYTHING IT CANNOT DAMAGE ANYTHING. it just kind of sits there. maybe it plays golf sometimes. i don't know. it does its own thing.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:26:03: for people that do not know this....

acetone eats keycaps. do not use it ever to clean them.
use denture cleaner to clean them if you must.

it won't touch krytox though.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:29:11: acetone also eats lineoleum floor tiles

ask me how i know
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: JPG on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:33:56: Quote from: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:29:11
acetone also eats lineoleum floor tiles

ask me how i know

How do you know? :p
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: fydo on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:36:27: Quote from: JPG on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:33:56
Quote from: mkawa
ask me how i know
How do you know? :p

It's a trap!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:49:09: (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-07-14%2018.53.19.jpg)
hmm, why is there a hole in the floor the shape of a glass pa- OH CRAP
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:33:10: INTERNATIONAL FOLKS: I'm looking to test shipping of baggies with labeled vials of lube into SE and South Asia via USPS first class mail (that is, your local postal system). let me know if you're interested and relatively sure that you won't immediately get thrown in jail until your hair turns gray like in oldboy.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: Sai on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:13:02: Quote from: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:33:10
INTERNATIONAL FOLKS: I'm looking to test shipping of baggies with labeled vials of lube into SE and South Asia via USPS first class mail (that is, your local postal system). let me know if you're interested and relatively sure that you won't immediately get thrown in jail until your hair turns gray like in oldboy.

count me in. got no problem wiith the last two 103 buys.
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: infiniti on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:15:57: Quote from: mkawa on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:33:10
INTERNATIONAL FOLKS: I'm looking to test shipping of baggies with labeled vials of lube into SE and South Asia via USPS first class mail (that is, your local postal system). let me know if you're interested and relatively sure that you won't immediately get thrown in jail until your hair turns gray like in oldboy.
I'm interested! :thumb:
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 28 August 2013, 10:07:34: PM me your orders please!

don't forget a phone number for customs
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:05:53: can my uk guinea pigs chime in on whether they received their packages? thanks dudes!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:07:54: Quote from: mkawa on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:05:53
can my uk guinea pigs chime in on whether they received their packages? thanks dudes!

nothing at all yet good sir

ill let you know
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters beta test!
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:11:24: :( uk customs :(g
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:50:39: kawa microfiber ftw
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:18:08: Quote from: BunnyLake on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:07:54
Quote from: mkawa on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:05:53
can my uk guinea pigs chime in on whether they received their packages? thanks dudes!

nothing at all yet good sir

ill let you know

You are a guinea pig? I thought you were a bunny! ;)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 01:43:50: Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:50:39
kawa microfiber ftw
i know, right?
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 30 August 2013, 02:18:56: Sorry, thought I posted already (looks like I didn't).

UK delivery - no problems at all. Thanks!
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 09:06:01: isle of man, check!

bunny, i've heard your royal PO is it a royal PITA; does that sound about right? ;)
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 30 August 2013, 09:10:40: Quote from: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 09:06:01
isle of man, check!

bunny, i've heard your royal PO is it a royal PITA; does that sound about right? ;)

its looking that way sad face
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 17:37:38: SAD FACE :(
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 30 August 2013, 18:36:22: Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 30 August 2013, 09:10:40
Quote from: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 09:06:01
isle of man, check!

bunny, i've heard your royal PO is it a royal PITA; does that sound about right? ;)

its looking that way sad face

:[
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:11:13: lol wow those stickers kawa
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 August 2013, 13:12:43: i know right? BOSS
Title: Re: geekhackers.org store testing -- lube kits and PS2 -> USB adapters!
Post by: kenmai9 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 12:42:25: the package got to me on saturday. very fast shipping. loved the instructions haha. thanks!