Hello, this is my first post on geekhack. I don't know if this is the place to post this kind of thread but I couldn't find a help zone or something so I am posting it here. I need some help with my Razer Blackwidow. I thought the best place to post this message was geekhack.
Anyways, getting into the problem:
I bought a Razer Blackwidow 2 months ago and it was functioning perfectly until today. I got out from shower with my hair wet and sat in front of my computer. Then, 3-4 drops of water fell down from my hair and got on the keyboard. I immediately picked up a tissue to clean it but while I was cleaning it the computer started doing crazy things. Several applications launched just by themselves and there was a crazy scene on my computer. The computer was selecting different shortcuts from my desktop for like 10-20 times just in a second. Clearly some of the keys got stuck for some reason but what I don't understand is that the other half of the keyboard (the half that didn't get the water drops) seems stuck too. After cleaning the key caps and whats inside it calmed down a bit (I still sometimes get crazy things) however now when I press "D" key my computer returns to desktop. I can't do anything except alt-tabbing which sometimes doesn't work too. When I press "A" it writes ووووو. I cleaned it up so many times, tried blowing into the keys while holding the keyboard upside down and shaking it but none of them worked. I tried the keyboard on another computer and that computer got the same thing as mine. I'm assuming that the windows key is stuck now because pressing D gets me to desktop immediately. Also the windows key does not work when I press it on the keyboard. What is more interesting is that when I disconnect the keyboard from my laptop, my laptop continues to do crazy things and I still get to my desktop when I press "D" (from my laptop's original keyboard) or get "وووو" when I press A until I press the windows key to reset its malfunctioning. However, sometimes this does not work too so I need to restart my computer to be able to get it to normal again. I don't understand why it is happening even though the keyboard is not connected and there is no problem with my laptop's original keyboard. Lastly, I tried "gaming mode" which disables the windows key through the razer synapse engine but it didn't work either. I also uninstalled the razer synapse engine and it is still the same thing.
What should I do or is there anything I can possibly do?
Hello, this is my first post on geekhack. I don't know if this is the place to post this kind of thread but I couldn't find a help zone or something so I am posting it here. I need some help with my Razer Blackwidow. I thought the best place to post this message was geekhack.
Anyways, getting into the problem:
I bought a Razer Blackwidow 2 months ago and it was functioning perfectly until today. I got out from shower with my hair wet and sat in front of my computer. Then, 3-4 drops of water fell down from my hair and got on the keyboard. I immediately picked up a tissue to clean it but while I was cleaning it the computer started doing crazy things. Several applications launched just by themselves and there was a crazy scene on my computer. The computer was selecting different shortcuts from my desktop for like 10-20 times just in a second. Clearly some of the keys got stuck for some reason but what I don't understand is that the other half of the keyboard (the half that didn't get the water drops) seems stuck too. After cleaning the key caps and whats inside it calmed down a bit (I still sometimes get crazy things) however now when I press "D" key my computer returns to desktop. I can't do anything except alt-tabbing which sometimes doesn't work too. When I press "A" it writes ووووو. I cleaned it up so many times, tried blowing into the keys while holding the keyboard upside down and shaking it but none of them worked. I tried the keyboard on another computer and that computer got the same thing as mine. I'm assuming that the windows key is stuck now because pressing D gets me to desktop immediately. Also the windows key does not work when I press it on the keyboard. What is more interesting is that when I disconnect the keyboard from my laptop, my laptop continues to do crazy things and I still get to my desktop when I press "D" (from my laptop's original keyboard) or get "وووو" when I press A until I press the windows key to reset its malfunctioning. However, sometimes this does not work too so I need to restart my computer to be able to get it to normal again. I don't understand why it is happening even though the keyboard is not connected and there is no problem with my laptop's original keyboard. Lastly, I tried "gaming mode" which disables the windows key through the razer synapse engine but it didn't work either. I also uninstalled the razer synapse engine and it is still the same thing.
What should I do or is there anything I can possibly do?
Throw it out..
Buy an Ergodox.
This is standard advice when it comes to Razer Keyboards on this forum.
It's NOT worth fixing. At best, you use a razer board to salvage its remaining functional keyswitches.Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_100_.gif)
Oh it also seems like you fried the controller...
THAT.... or it's not dry.. stop using it for a week and see if it still does this.
Sounds like you shorted something. You can try taking it apart and drying/wiping everything down then trying it again when it's dried.
Don't use it for a couple of days, perhaps try to wipe it a bit, mine did that too when I spilled dr pepper on it
Dude gets a few drops of water on his keyboard, comes here asking for advice, and the first thing he's told is to buy a $400 keyboard which he will have to put together himself.
That's just very lame, and not funny.
Like the other sensible members have said, just let it dry out for a few days and see what happens. Hopefully it'll be okay. Good luck.
The point is that he wasn't asking about his "last" keyboard to buy. He was asking about a malfunction and your constant Ergodox suggestions (for everything, it seems) are just lame.
Sounds like you shorted something. You can try taking it apart and drying/wiping everything down then trying it again when it's dried.Don't use it for a couple of days, perhaps try to wipe it a bit, mine did that too when I spilled dr pepper on it
Yeah I pulled out all the keys and put the keyboard face-down. Gonna wait 2-3 days and give it a try again. Thanks for your advices.
I learned the hard way that Razer sells overpriced junk. My recommendation is to throw your keyboard in the garbage where it belongs and get a quality board from WASD.
Don't eat the rice after if you do this though since solder has lead and you don't wan't to expose yourself to anymore lead then necessary.
I know where you're coming from, and that's cool. But you should also factor in that a lot of people here just may not have the money to just flat out buy a new board, let alone an Ergodox.
Hello, this is my first post on geekhack. I don't know if this is the place to post this kind of thread but I couldn't find a help zone or something so I am posting it here. I need some help with my Razer Blackwidow. I thought the best place to post this message was geekhack.
Anyways, getting into the problem:
I bought a Razer Blackwidow 2 months ago and it was functioning perfectly until today. I got out from shower with my hair wet and sat in front of my computer. Then, 3-4 drops of water fell down from my hair and got on the keyboard. I immediately picked up a tissue to clean it but while I was cleaning it the computer started doing crazy things. Several applications launched just by themselves and there was a crazy scene on my computer. The computer was selecting different shortcuts from my desktop for like 10-20 times just in a second. Clearly some of the keys got stuck for some reason but what I don't understand is that the other half of the keyboard (the half that didn't get the water drops) seems stuck too. After cleaning the key caps and whats inside it calmed down a bit (I still sometimes get crazy things) however now when I press "D" key my computer returns to desktop. I can't do anything except alt-tabbing which sometimes doesn't work too. When I press "A" it writes ووووو. I cleaned it up so many times, tried blowing into the keys while holding the keyboard upside down and shaking it but none of them worked. I tried the keyboard on another computer and that computer got the same thing as mine. I'm assuming that the windows key is stuck now because pressing D gets me to desktop immediately. Also the windows key does not work when I press it on the keyboard. What is more interesting is that when I disconnect the keyboard from my laptop, my laptop continues to do crazy things and I still get to my desktop when I press "D" (from my laptop's original keyboard) or get "وووو" when I press A until I press the windows key to reset its malfunctioning. However, sometimes this does not work too so I need to restart my computer to be able to get it to normal again. I don't understand why it is happening even though the keyboard is not connected and there is no problem with my laptop's original keyboard. Lastly, I tried "gaming mode" which disables the windows key through the razer synapse engine but it didn't work either. I also uninstalled the razer synapse engine and it is still the same thing.
What should I do or is there anything I can possibly do?
Throw it out..
Buy an Ergodox.
This is standard advice when it comes to Razer Keyboards on this forum.
It's NOT worth fixing. At best, you use a razer board to salvage its remaining functional keyswitches.Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_100_.gif)
Oh it also seems like you fried the controller...
THAT.... or it's not dry.. stop using it for a week and see if it still does this.
LOL, yes I was thinking of waiting for about a week before sending it back to Razer guarantee. Thanks for the advice.
this.
u have correct answer, let it dry as other guy wrote before me leave on sun for few days and send to razer support saying that there's sth wrong with ur keyboard.......... easiest way to get new one....... at least that's how support works for ppl which bought thru their page.
ah what? it's $275 assembled... + whatever shipping / tax..
and considering it's the "LAST" keyboard anyone ever needs to buy... that's better than stocking up on the garbage that most people have in their sigs...
like a bunch of pokers and more crap-tastic widows.
Oh I thought rice attracted Asians to fix the electronic... Lol.Sounds like you shorted something. You can try taking it apart and drying/wiping everything down then trying it again when it's dried.Don't use it for a couple of days, perhaps try to wipe it a bit, mine did that too when I spilled dr pepper on it
Yeah I pulled out all the keys and put the keyboard face-down. Gonna wait 2-3 days and give it a try again. Thanks for your advices.
You can also try putting the components in rice. Don't eat the rice after if you do this though since solder has lead and you don't wan't to expose yourself to anymore lead then necessary. Supposedly rice draws moisture out so it helps to dry things. Just a thought. Good luck :D
Just stop. The ErgoXYZ elitism is severely reducing the quality of posts, and you're being completely unhelpful. This man wants a fix to his keyboard which he spent a decent money on, don't come in and shove your opinion down his throat.
ah what? it's $275 assembled... + whatever shipping / tax..
and considering it's the "LAST" keyboard anyone ever needs to buy... that's better than stocking up on the garbage that most people have in their sigs...
like a bunch of pokers and more crap-tastic widows.
Just stop. The ErgoXYZ elitism is severely reducing the quality of posts, and you're being completely unhelpful. This man wants a fix to his keyboard which he spent a decent money on, don't come in and shove your opinion down his throat.
OT: As others have suggested, waiting for it to dry would make sense. If it doesn't work, an RMA from Razer would be in order. If that doesn't work, you'd probably just want to buy a new keyboard, as the switches might not be worth salvaging.
The point is that he wasn't asking about his "last" keyboard to buy. He was asking about a malfunction and your constant Ergodox suggestions (for everything, it seems) are just lame.
The point is that he wasn't asking about his "last" keyboard to buy. He was asking about a malfunction and your constant Ergodox suggestions (for everything, it seems) are just lame.
If he bugs you, as he does many other members, why not just drop him into your killfile.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;area=lists;sa=ignore;
Go there, add his name, and never see his posts again.
ah what? it's $275 assembled... + whatever shipping / tax..
and considering it's the "LAST" keyboard anyone ever needs to buy... that's better than stocking up on the garbage that most people have in their sigs...
like a bunch of pokers and more crap-tastic widows.
Just stop. The ErgoXYZ elitism is severely reducing the quality of posts, and you're being completely unhelpful. This man wants a fix to his keyboard which he spent a decent money on, don't come in and shove your opinion down his throat.
OT: As others have suggested, waiting for it to dry would make sense. If it doesn't work, an RMA from Razer would be in order. If that doesn't work, you'd probably just want to buy a new keyboard, as the switches might not be worth salvaging.
But but.. ergodox?
Why ergodox? He wants to fix his damn board. He spent over $120 on it and want it working.
I know if I bought a board I'd want it to work perfectly.
I learned something as I joined GeekHack... There are some people who post on my issue with a keyboard and will immediately say ERGODOX NOAW!!!
Say what you will...
Razer only wish it could suck donkey c0*k
Whatever it's currently sucking, is even worse....
Say what you will...
Razer only wish it could suck donkey c0*k
Whatever it's currently sucking, is even worse....
Ergodox is trash. It's un-ergonomic garbage and makes the N64 controller look like the Kinesis. Honestly, who in their right minds would lug around such a big piece of worthless scrap metal so that they can demonstrate to others their massive e-pen*s. You can't even type with correct grammar, with all this supposed 'ergonomics' that you receive. Five periods after a sentence? Some word that has a number and a censor in it? Pathetic. The ErgoDox is a ****ty ripoff of Maltron and the users are the rudest, most unhelpful people on GH.
//half-sarcastic rant
Exactly lol.Say what you will...
Razer only wish it could suck donkey c0*k
Whatever it's currently sucking, is even worse....
Ergodox is trash. It's un-ergonomic garbage and makes the N64 controller look like the Kinesis. Honestly, who in their right minds would lug around such a big piece of worthless scrap metal so that they can demonstrate to others their massive e-pen*s. You can't even type with correct grammar, with all this supposed 'ergonomics' that you receive. Five periods after a sentence? Some word that has a number and a censor in it? Pathetic. The ErgoDox is a ****ty ripoff of Maltron and the users are the rudest, most unhelpful people on GH.
//half-sarcastic rant
Exactly lol.Say what you will...
Razer only wish it could suck donkey c0*k
Whatever it's currently sucking, is even worse....
Ergodox is trash. It's un-ergonomic garbage and makes the N64 controller look like the Kinesis. Honestly, who in their right minds would lug around such a big piece of worthless scrap metal so that they can demonstrate to others their massive e-pen*s. You can't even type with correct grammar, with all this supposed 'ergonomics' that you receive. Five periods after a sentence? Some word that has a number and a censor in it? Pathetic. The ErgoDox is a ****ty ripoff of Maltron and the users are the rudest, most unhelpful people on GH.
//half-sarcastic rant
Unhelpful?
I already posted the solution to the op's problem... before ANYONE ELSE did...
I just happen to Add the fact that, it's a ****ty board that's not really worth using...Show Image(http://s1.postimage.org/15t6n5hok/image.gif)
Some of you n00bs cling to your precious $100 mistake, and justify it to "yourselves" more than anyone else that the BW isn't total crap, when the entire enthusiast community deems it thus...
GTFO if you don't like sound advice.
What if Razer came out with their own branded ergodox?
OP, 3 drops of water isn't going to do much damage, unless it was more than that amount. You could try taking it apart to see if water has collected somewhere.
Either way, it's 'working' right now so as soon as it dries, it should be fine.
Not everyone wants, or can afford, an ErgoDox.
It is NOT the solution to every problem.
In this case allowing the keyboard to dry might return it to a state of functionality, if not then because it is only a couple of months old it might be possible to return it.
If THAT eventuates, then maybe the OP could consider buying an alternative board.
And besides, this board did not die due to inherent manufacturing or quality problems, it died due to liquid incursion (probably).
Ergodox takes all of the things the keyboard community yearned for and created a product that (currently) has no equal...
I'm finding it really funny how he's still trying to make ergo dox seem like the best thing in the world. In reality it isn't and no one really cares for it. I'd rather buy a Topre board than an ergodox.
I'm finding it really funny how he's still trying to make ergo dox seem like the best thing in the world. In reality it isn't and no one really cares for it. I'd rather buy a Topre board than an ergodox.;D
best thing in the world, very close.. but best keyboard in the world, absolute yes..LOL.Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_092_.gif)
I wouldn't say that if I were you. A model m my father has is pretty amazing. I love it.I'm finding it really funny how he's still trying to make ergo dox seem like the best thing in the world. In reality it isn't and no one really cares for it. I'd rather buy a Topre board than an ergodox.
best thing in the world, very close.. but best keyboard in the world, absolute yes..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_092_.gif)
I wouldn't say that if I were you. A model m my father has is pretty amazing. I love it.I'm finding it really funny how he's still trying to make ergo dox seem like the best thing in the world. In reality it isn't and no one really cares for it. I'd rather buy a Topre board than an ergodox.
best thing in the world, very close.. but best keyboard in the world, absolute yes..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_092_.gif)
I will refuse to buy an ergodox.
Welcome to the Dox EraShow Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_057_.gif)
Welcome to the Dox EraShow Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_057_.gif)
An era of improper capitalization and people with their heads crammed so far up their posteriors that they can see what they had for dinner last night.
That cheese deserves to stand alone.
You should post pictures of your Dox tp4
Welcome to the Dox EraShow Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_057_.gif)
An era of improper capitalization and people with their heads crammed so far up their posteriors that they can see what they had for dinner last night.
That cheese deserves to stand alone.
Can one ignore all posts of a specific user through a forum setting? thank you.
The reason that it's been constant attacks is that you are always f**king saying dox this and dox that. If this was a thread saying; Hey I want an ergodox. Then there you may praise it. It's ok to do it here too but not to the extent that you have been doing it. He wanted his damn keyboard working so he came here for help.
and considering it's the "LAST" keyboard anyone ever needs to buy... that's better than stocking up on the garbage that most people have in their sigs...
like a bunch of pokers and more crap-tastic widows.
I don't know what you guys aim to do in trying to make other people feel bad.
Old and busted:and considering it's the "LAST" keyboard anyone ever needs to buy... that's better than stocking up on the garbage that most people have in their sigs...
like a bunch of pokers and more crap-tastic widows.
New 2-day later hotness:I don't know what you guys aim to do in trying to make other people feel bad.
I just think you're plain crazy.
It always seems to come down to this because you guys can't find anything wrong with the Ergodox.. So yourselves compelled to kill the preacher?
The board does take some getting used to, but it is not as bad as I thought. I am loving the split design and the feel for the cherry clear switches that I got with it – but then again I have nothing else to compare them to. The hardest thing so far is getting used to the location of some keys on the top rows due to the matrix design. I'm also experiencing the same problem someone else had with the thumb naturally resting just to the side of the thumb keys, making one wish they were slightly closer. But I'm sure I will get used to both these minor issues rather quickly. I also wished the keycaps had a bump on the home keys. I've temporarily resolved that with a piece of tape.
For me (as I have large hands), I think the 2x thumb buttons are perfect. But I'll be honest, I don't use the 1x buttons in the thumb cluster at all (well I do have two of them setup to load the bootloader when I press both, but that's it).
even after months of using the thing, i still have trouble touch typing the top row of numbers, specifically when typing in long strings for authentication purposes. Individual numbers while typing sentences are mostly fine.
I agree with both of you on the thumb cluster usage, on both sides - I only use the inner most 2x keys regularly, and the other 2x keys are relegated to del and enter, which aren't actually necessary all the time. (well, I have a duplicate enter key at the regular position, which is the one I use more often.)
The rest of the thumb cluster keys on my layout are used mostly for layer changes, and the characters [], home, end, windows key and a off center ctrl (another duplicate - there's an easier to reach ctrl elsewhere). It's true that the 1x keys aren't in the best positions to be reached easily on a consistent basis, so that's where the keys that I use on the least frequent basis go.
But I could see an issue if the layout used requires constant usage of the thumb cluster for other than the 2x keys.
But the beauty of the setup is that the layout can be tweaked over and over until you're happy with it in use.(looking at a folder I set aside for the hex files I downloaded, I went through at least 40 revisions before I settled on what I've been using for the last few months. I suspect if I started playing games again, that number would likely grow.)
I've more or less settled on one where I actually have more than enough keys on layer 0 to work with in normal usage, so much so that I ignore the rest of the thumb cluster, not consciously, but because I don't miss those keys at all. The only thing I'm not satisfied with would probably be the lack of a dedicated arrow cluster on layer 0 (I've tried many swaps with various keys, just doesn't feel right while typing)
It always seems to come down to this because you guys can't find anything wrong with the Ergodox.. So yourselves compelled to kill the preacher?
Take it away ErgoDox users!The board does take some getting used to, but it is not as bad as I thought. I am loving the split design and the feel for the cherry clear switches that I got with it – but then again I have nothing else to compare them to. The hardest thing so far is getting used to the location of some keys on the top rows due to the matrix design. I'm also experiencing the same problem someone else had with the thumb naturally resting just to the side of the thumb keys, making one wish they were slightly closer. But I'm sure I will get used to both these minor issues rather quickly. I also wished the keycaps had a bump on the home keys. I've temporarily resolved that with a piece of tape.
Not as bad as I thought? A ringing endorsement if I ever heard one.For me (as I have large hands), I think the 2x thumb buttons are perfect. But I'll be honest, I don't use the 1x buttons in the thumb cluster at all (well I do have two of them setup to load the bootloader when I press both, but that's it).
A keyboard with keys the owner doesn't even use? Perfect!even after months of using the thing, i still have trouble touch typing the top row of numbers, specifically when typing in long strings for authentication purposes. Individual numbers while typing sentences are mostly fine.
I agree with both of you on the thumb cluster usage, on both sides - I only use the inner most 2x keys regularly, and the other 2x keys are relegated to del and enter, which aren't actually necessary all the time. (well, I have a duplicate enter key at the regular position, which is the one I use more often.)
The rest of the thumb cluster keys on my layout are used mostly for layer changes, and the characters [], home, end, windows key and a off center ctrl (another duplicate - there's an easier to reach ctrl elsewhere). It's true that the 1x keys aren't in the best positions to be reached easily on a consistent basis, so that's where the keys that I use on the least frequent basis go.
But I could see an issue if the layout used requires constant usage of the thumb cluster for other than the 2x keys.
But the beauty of the setup is that the layout can be tweaked over and over until you're happy with it in use.(looking at a folder I set aside for the hex files I downloaded, I went through at least 40 revisions before I settled on what I've been using for the last few months. I suspect if I started playing games again, that number would likely grow.)
I've more or less settled on one where I actually have more than enough keys on layer 0 to work with in normal usage, so much so that I ignore the rest of the thumb cluster, not consciously, but because I don't miss those keys at all. The only thing I'm not satisfied with would probably be the lack of a dedicated arrow cluster on layer 0 (I've tried many swaps with various keys, just doesn't feel right while typing)
40 different layouts and this user eventually had to "settle" on one. Shouldn't need to happen when shelling out $275+ on Keyboard Jesus.
I'm never buying an Ergodox thanks to you. Really, I'm not even curious anymore.
tp has been banned for 2 weeks for total thread derailment.(http://25.media.tumblr.com/efd53e14ce05b7c05bcae68efe7d4a7a/tumblr_mp9ns1KVfp1sp9fcho1_r1_500.gif)
OP, I'm sorry you had to see this.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rJWwU1X.jpg)
RIP IN PEACE TP