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Title: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:31:13
GROUP BUY IS LIVE
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51026.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51026.0)

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Hello Geekhack,

This is an interest check for the Penumbra Key Set, born from the Solarized colorway with a bit of a retro touch.

Specifications
Profile: SA
Finish: Smooth
F/J/5 keys: Nubs / DeepDish (both)

ErgoDox
Register your interest here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform)
Current requests for ergodox: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewanalytics (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewanalytics)

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Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:45:39
60 percent support?
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:48:44
This would look brilliant in SA.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:49:22
60 percent support?

Yes - I am just most familiar with TKL so thats what I did with the mock-up. I would think that we would want a full set and get the compatibility that everyone wants if it were to go into production.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:51:36
This would look brilliant in SA.

I was kind of thinking that as well. I have only owned OEM and cherry profile, so open to whatever.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:55:28
The biggest thing that pops out to me is the multiple colors of mod legends. You may be forced to pick one for a mod set and then supplement with partial sets for the others.  Best bet would be to email melissa @ SP and clarify with her first.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 12 October 2013, 18:01:02
I like the way this looks and I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 12 October 2013, 18:06:34
looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 18:36:46
The biggest thing that pops out to me is the multiple colors of mod legends. You may be forced to pick one for a mod set and then supplement with partial sets for the others.  Best bet would be to email melissa @ SP and clarify with her first.

Good point - sent an email about it.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 12 October 2013, 18:39:46
I like this one a lot.  Good color combination.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: longweight on Sat, 12 October 2013, 18:52:10
I really like this.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 19:26:59
I've used Solarized a bit at work in PuTTY.

The colours in this set almost make it look like a slightly darker CCnB.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 19:33:17
I've used Solarized a bit at work in PuTTY.

The colours in this set almost make it look like a slightly darker CCnB.

I agree its not a true match - its hard to find a good matching base color for the alphas in SP's color line-up. Added a second mock-up with the next closest color I can see. Any suggestions?

EDIT: IMO, version B mock-up is a little more boring - its closer to a lot of other key cap sets. That said, I'd be stoked if either one happened.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 12 October 2013, 19:52:35
I agree, the second is more generic.  I like the original 1st.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 20:02:46
+1 for the second.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 20:07:52
Anyone have a sheet of SP legends available? The mock-ups have all plain-text legends, which I do like, but I know that there are fancy little thingies for shift, caps lock, etc that could be added to spruce it up a little.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 12 October 2013, 20:39:05
VER. A (color=YCC)
(Attachment Link)

Version A - all the WAY  :thumb: .  Got to give credit to someone wanting to use some beige love in their key-sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:10:37
Very interested Ver A & SA profile ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: nickr on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:11:47
VER. A (color=YCC)
(Attachment Link)

Version A - all the WAY  :thumb: .  Got to give credit to someone wanting to use some beige love in their key-sets.

Add another Version A fan to the list
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Tarzan on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:16:48
Version A.

Much as I like icons, I think this color scheme looks best with all text legends.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:23:50
I also vote A so far. How do people normally keep track of this in interest checks? Just let the thread go and gather a basic feeling of what the consensus is at the end?
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:25:06
I also vote A so far. How do people normally keep track of this in interest checks? Just let the thread go and gather a basic feeling of what the consensus is at the end?

You can also set up a poll with google docs.  If you do that, make sure you disallow multiple votes by requiring a username entry or something similar.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: ijprest on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:08:31
I like the Solarized scheme... so I'm interested, depending on how close we can get.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:12:42
The first one looks most coherent to me.  With the uniform legends, given that there are already many colors for the fonts (it looks busy enough).  BUT... the 3rd one is definitely growing on me :) This is just my individual subjective opinion, so you should definitely do a poll later :)
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:16:21
I vote for "A" in SA profile.

For proper support of the 60 percent profile, you need to have a separate extra escape key. The "|/" key needs its own mod. Probably done other things, too

Hopefully, a proper ergodox kit can be included. It would be great to have a kit that supported the "mods" of the ergodox with an actual font. The only problem with this is that you would have to pick the "default" layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:34:07
I vote for "A" in SA profile.

For proper support of the 60 percent profile, you need to have a separate extra escape key. The "|/" key needs its own mod. Probably done other things, too

Hopefully, a proper ergodox kit can be included. It would be great to have a kit that supported the "mods" of the ergodox with an actual font. The only problem with this is that you would have to pick the "default" layout.

Ah - never had a 60% so I don't know these things :) Thanks for the tip. What is different about the extra Esc key?

Also - I'm thinking there could be an ergodox kit or something as well so it could be supported. I guess it all boils down to how all of this works out with SP and what the pricing differences are etc.

I am getting a strong SA vibe in here - I'd also like to give SA a shot. Any opposed?

EDIT: Also, am I mistaken or are the SA profile caps supposed to be thicker than the other families SP produces?
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:46:44
Yes, SA should be nicely thick :)  Can use 2 current SA GBs for profile reference.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:57:37
You all probably already know this, but looks like the only bummer about SA is the cap size on a few modifiers:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:SPH_grey_blue_vdgreyshell.png (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:SPH_grey_blue_vdgreyshell.png)

When keysets are made in SA profile - do you just deal with it? or..?
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:06:15
Great idea, love solarized.  Strange no one has done sets before based on established colorschemes.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:06:59
Look at the 23 Commando and Calm group buys here.  They have proper modifiers and better profiles.  That's why I pointed to them.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:10:35
Look at the 23 Commando and Calm group buys here.  They have proper modifiers and better profiles.  That's why I pointed to them.

Woot! Didn't see that before. Thanks for pointing it out!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:13:36
I can help with mockups and makings set options.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:19:52
I can help with mockups and makings set options.

Right on! If you know what you are doing I'm sure they will come out better than my GIMPery. Guessing we need to add an ergodox kit and maybe ISO at a minimum.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:23:05
Look at the 23 Commando and Calm group buys here.  They have proper modifiers and better profiles.  That's why I pointed to them.

So don't worry, we can all share in the love for some more SA's - if the op chooses to go this way, which I hope he does.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: germy on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:23:59
Wow the colour scheme is really calming and appealing to me. Really hope this goes through all the way!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:25:00
I think we are in consensus so far for SA Profile.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:34:58
I think a base kit like the one in the op, along with with a tsangan, iso, ergodox and numpad should be good. Maybe a blanks kit like calmdepths had gamer kit, which was fairly popular as people love deep dish.

Edit: By base kit, I meant the TKL kit, however it is all up to you. I like the idea of graphic mods as an additional kit.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: acantha on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:38:46
that looks amazing. i'd be all over that.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:43:40
I vote for "A" in SA profile.

For proper support of the 60 percent profile, you need to have a separate extra escape key. The "|/" key needs its own mod. Probably done other things, too

Hopefully, a proper ergodox kit can be included. It would be great to have a kit that supported the "mods" of the ergodox with an actual font. The only problem with this is that you would have to pick the "default" layout.

Ah - never had a 60% so I don't know these things :) Thanks for the tip. What is different about the extra Esc key?

Also - I'm thinking there could be an ergodox kit or something as well so it could be supported. I guess it all boils down to how all of this works out with SP and what the pricing differences are etc.

I am getting a strong SA vibe in here - I'd also like to give SA a shot. Any opposed?

EDIT: Also, am I mistaken or are the SA profile caps supposed to be thicker than the other families SP produces?

Yes. In the last 2 SA profile GBs the extra row 2 profile esc key was added halfway through the GB. You really can't use a row 1 profile esc key on a 60 percent keyboard. It doesn't match when a row 1 key is next to a bunch of row 2 keys.

As others have said, look at previous and ongoing SA profile GBs for reference.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: bueller on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:46:00
Count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:57:18
Hopefully, the "mods" portion of the ergodox kit can have text/font support.

The previous GBs have blank font-less keys. That would be great if this GB can include text on the "mods". The problem is that we would need an agreement on a "standard".

I could be wrong in thinking I'm alone in believing that the ergodox "mods" could use some text/font support.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:11:08
Hopefully, the "mods" portion of the ergodox kit can have text/font support.

The previous GBs have blank font-less keys. That would be great if this GB can include text on the "mods". The problem is that we would need an agreement on a "standard".

I could be wrong in thinking I'm alone in believing that the ergodox "mods" could use some text/font support.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

It is a good idea, problem being everyone has their own layouts, what you can do and I would suggest since I have noted you pushing for legend mods for ErgoDox for quite a while (:P) is to create a thread and gather information on what the most common mods used are.

So create a table with eg

2x Enter - 10 users
2x Space - 20 users
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:
etc

We can then use this information in the future GBs to produce legend mods, bare in mind, that these would most likely be pretty expensive, as the number of users would be pretty low, as ErgoDox users are currently limited and the legends won't be for everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: AlexJP on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:24:41
SA please...
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:37:46
Hopefully, the "mods" portion of the ergodox kit can have text/font support.

The previous GBs have blank font-less keys. That would be great if this GB can include text on the "mods". The problem is that we would need an agreement on a "standard".

I could be wrong in thinking I'm alone in believing that the ergodox "mods" could use some text/font support.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

It is a good idea, problem being everyone has their own layouts, what you can do and I would suggest since I have noted you pushing for legend mods for ErgoDox for quite a while (:P) is to create a thread and gather information on what the most common mods used are.

So create a table with eg

2x Enter - 10 users
2x Space - 20 users
:
:
etc

We can then use this information in the future GBs to produce legend mods, bare in mind, that these would most likely be pretty expensive, as the number of users would be pretty low, as ErgoDox users are currently limited and the legends won't be for everyone.

I like that idea. If this GB idea goes through though, I'd like to keep the mods in the GB and not a separate one if possible.

I know the costs might be higher with the legends and smaller group of ergodox owners. Hopefully, if the GB goes through, ergodox owners will understand the reason for the extra cost.

I should do this extra post as suggested.

I'm not home yet. I'd rather start the post on a PC. I'm on my mobile.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 12:07:30
i like this idea. i hope it will run soon
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: bupsthename on Sun, 13 October 2013, 15:44:45
This is a terrific idea. I'd definitely be down for a set.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: argyakrivos on Sun, 13 October 2013, 17:24:30
I'm definitely in for graphic modifiers and SA profile!!  :thumb:

I used Solarized quite a lot, but lately I've switched to Tomorrow (https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme).

Maybe it's worth making some mockups for Tomorrow as well...
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: amasokin on Sun, 13 October 2013, 18:11:44
Wow this looks superb. Very interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 13 October 2013, 19:03:20
I don't understand why the mods aren't colored.  Traditionally you have Ctrl, Alt, and Shift with the red/green/blue.  For some reason the mockup leaves those gray while coloring backspace, tab, and enter.  By the way I like the SA profile idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 October 2013, 20:24:20
I think it looks more symmetric with gray mods and gray function row legends on top.  This is an unusual set, and all the unusual bits make it interesting.  Versus standard dark mods + light alphas, 2-tone set ups.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 13 October 2013, 22:26:48
I don't understand why the mods aren't colored.  Traditionally you have Ctrl, Alt, and Shift with the red/green/blue.  For some reason the mockup leaves those gray while coloring backspace, tab, and enter.  By the way I like the SA profile idea.

I don't either :) There is no logical reason why the colors are not the same as traditional sets. I just had an idea, banged out a mock-up as quickly as I could, and that's how it turned out.

I think it looks more symmetric with gray mods and gray function row legends on top.  This is an unusual set, and all the unusual bits make it interesting.  Versus standard dark mods + light alphas, 2-tone set ups.

I agree with this, Photoelectric.

Coming from someone who hasn't spent ages looking at different key cap combinations, it simply didn't occur to me that this is how things are normally done, hence the atypical legend colors.

Thanks to you both for the comments. Anyone else care to weigh in? As the OP states, I am completely open to suggestions, and if there are many who prefer the legends a different way, let's have a looksie.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 14 October 2013, 10:04:02
I love Solarized! Great idea, can't believe it hasn't been done sooner.

My only gripe is that I really dislike the light alphas with dark mods. I'd be in for a complete set in dark in a heartbeat. Might do an all-light one.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: kwago on Mon, 14 October 2013, 10:53:37
i'm in
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:01:46
If you don't see a color you like that matches then just ask SP to order a custom color for you. It is free and you just need to give them the Pantone code. This set looks pretty cool, I had an idea to do a similar color scheme except dark blue for the alphas and the lighter color for the mods.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:04:42
I love all 3 colors (A, B and C) but I'm more concerned about profile. DSA or SA would be preferred and I wouldn't buy a DSC profile set
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:05:17
I think SA is what the OP is also most interested in.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:05:56
I think all the colors should be used somehow. I didn't see magenta in any of the mockups. What makes the entire solarized scheme look great is all the colors being used together.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:42:18
I think all the colors should be used somehow. I didn't see magenta in any of the mockups. What makes the entire solarized scheme look great is all the colors being used together.

I referred back to the solarized website.

An extra color would make it look better all together.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: acantha on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:43:56
these will look great in the SA profile... but i do wish there was an option for DCS, because i don't find that i have a lot of keyboards that i like putting SA profile caps on.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 October 2013, 12:01:10
DSC is usually very thin ABS :(  That's my main issue with it.  Plus the typical WYSE fonts in place of the large centralized fonts.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: ijprest on Mon, 14 October 2013, 12:02:01
Here's a couple options I whipped up to see what RGBY modifiers would look like (using the official Solarized colors... we'd have to match them to SP plastics):
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 14 October 2013, 12:48:14
Yes. Interested. This would be a beautiful set.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 October 2013, 13:09:02
I used Solarized quite a lot, but lately I've switched to Tomorrow (https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme).

Ooh, very nice.  That's going straight into my ~/.vim
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 14 October 2013, 13:40:47
  • Solarized Light: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/6ec6b27e647ef6086d6f6e87ab73e52e
(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/1080006d1368217010-picked-up-new-watch-last-night-borat.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 14 October 2013, 14:33:27
This has been my choice of color scheme for Emacs for quite a long time lol. Will grab a set if DSA/DCS is an option.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Hellmark on Mon, 14 October 2013, 15:11:49
Too bad you removed Version B. That was my favorite.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Mon, 14 October 2013, 15:42:09
I think all the colors should be used somehow. I didn't see magenta in any of the mockups. What makes the entire solarized scheme look great is all the colors being used together.

Good call - maybe we can change Esc? Or include a second one if people liked the orange Esc.

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I think Magenta is going to need to be a custom color if we want to include it. The samples on the SP site are too soft or too dark. We could use RCR, looks closest but still more of a pink.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 October 2013, 16:27:33
^ Want!  Must order!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Mon, 14 October 2013, 16:40:14
Updated OP with a few adjustments, and added currently selected colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 14 October 2013, 18:00:31
DSC is usually very thin ABS :(  That's my main issue with it.  Plus the typical WYSE fonts in place of the large centralized fonts.

100% CORRECT.  Plus I've already got too many DCS caps.  We desperately need more SA love on here and look forward to this GB picking up some legs and running fast to SP for production.  Once you get your FIRST delivery of these in your hands you'll be wondering why SP hasn't been making them always, instead of that horrid DCS.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 October 2013, 18:07:00
I got a random SA profile cap as a bonus in one of my recent GH trade packages, and I was very impressed.  If I was on the fence before, that cap pretty much made the decision for me - I need a full SA set :D  It's so nicely thick, and the spherical-ness of it is just great.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: frogamic on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:19:27
MRW reading this:
(http://missionpenguin.com/images/solarize_things.jpg)

I'd be in for a set of these
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: bupsthename on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:13:42
The super/meta is also a really nice touch. I actually can't wait for this to run.

Looking forward to the eventual zenburn IC thread....
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:14:56
The super/meta is also a really nice touch. I actually can't wait for this to run.

I agree!  It's all very retro and very cool :)
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:26:08
Are you gong to include a dark "\|" key and dark spacebar?

If you included a dark "\|" key, what color should the text be?

These go well with 60 percent boards.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:08:57
Are you gong to include a dark "\|" key and dark spacebar?

If you included a dark "\|" key, what color should the text be?

These go well with 60 percent boards.

That's a good point - I am not opposed to adding an additional key for this purpose. I am not sure - what color do you think the text should be? I am trying to keep the number of colors to what we have now.

Signature Plastics got back to me with a pricing quote. I asked for a quote on the *ENTIRE* set - so bear in mind this is not parting out any alphas / iso kits / numpads / tsangan / graphic modifier keys / etc. We could separate them out into smaller sets, I have no idea how many orders we would get, if we would even come close to the 150 mark or not (which is where the price becomes a little more reasonable), so that might be our next move.

Quote
25 sets      $140.17 per set
50 sets      $112.06 per set
75 sets      $102.69 per set
100 sets      $98.00 per set
150 sets      $93.32 per set
200 sets      $90.97 per set
250 sets      $89.57 per set
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:10:24
Group buy, go! :D  (Of course, if someone experienced is willing to run / assist--wouldn't demand that you do it if you're not ready :) )

The standard alphas  / mods / tsangan / numpad / ISO seem to be a reasonable traditional way to do this (or combine mods with tsangan kit).  Subtract the numpad and ISO--which is what many people on GH will do based on previous group buys, and you'll have a cheaper purchase.  And many people don't need a Tsangan kit either.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:17:39
Yeah - this is kind of what I was thinking too.

Forgot to mention - I also put in a request for a more vibrant magenta. I gave them the hex code #FF0066 which im guessing they know how to convert to whatever format they needed the color in. I'll update here when they reply again.

Looking again, #FF0066 looks a bit bright. It will be used on just the lettering of the Esc key so far. Any other color suggestions?
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:41:37
Are you gong to include a dark "\|" key and dark spacebar?

If you included a dark "\|" key, what color should the text be?

These go well with 60 percent boards.

That's a good point - I am not opposed to adding an additional key for this purpose. I am not sure - what color do you think the text should be? I am trying to keep the number of colors to what we have now.

Signature Plastics got back to me with a pricing quote. I asked for a quote on the *ENTIRE* set - so bear in mind this is not parting out any alphas / iso kits / numpads / tsangan / graphic modifier keys / etc. We could separate them out into smaller sets, I have no idea how many orders we would get, if we would even come close to the 150 mark or not (which is where the price becomes a little more reasonable), so that might be our next move.

Quote
25 sets$140.17 per set
50 sets$112.06 per set
75 sets$102.69 per set
100 sets$98.00 per set
150 sets$93.32 per set
200 sets$90.97 per set
250 sets$89.57 per set

You could make the "\|" key font magenta as well.

The only issue is on a 60 percent board. The color order from bottom to top on the mods will be out of order.

The top magenta font colored esc key on the top left and a red backspace key on the top right.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:44:27
Sent you a PM Ryan.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: yesandnotyes on Tue, 15 October 2013, 20:56:41
Looks very nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 15 October 2013, 21:09:46
um... yes please! The solarized theme is a brilliant inspiration!
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: mtl on Tue, 15 October 2013, 21:45:22
Looks great. Please keep the Tsangan kit.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: ijprest on Tue, 15 October 2013, 22:35:31
Forgot to mention - I also put in a request for a more vibrant magenta. I gave them the hex code #FF0066 which im guessing they know how to convert to whatever format they needed the color in. I'll update here when they reply again.

Looking again, #FF0066 looks a bit bright. It will be used on just the lettering of the Esc key so far. Any other color suggestions?

If we're calling it Solarized, why not try to match the Solarized colors as closely as possible (provided SP is willing to do custom colors, which another poster indicated was the case)?  The colors were chosen specifically to complement each other.  Solarized Magenta == #d33682.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 October 2013, 22:38:15
But please keep that awesome beige for the alphas!  It has so much punch and character--for a beige.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:23:03
Forgot to mention - I also put in a request for a more vibrant magenta. I gave them the hex code #FF0066 which im guessing they know how to convert to whatever format they needed the color in. I'll update here when they reply again.

Looking again, #FF0066 looks a bit bright. It will be used on just the lettering of the Esc key so far. Any other color suggestions?

If we're calling it Solarized, why not try to match the Solarized colors as closely as possible (provided SP is willing to do custom colors, which another poster indicated was the case)?  The colors were chosen specifically to complement each other.  Solarized Magenta == #d33682.

Thought about this myself as well after posting. If they come back and say that they will do the color match for free, then I'll definitely give them the accurate magenta color. I was actually working on a mock-up with the true solarized color scheme to see how that looks in case they will color match all of the colors in the set.

With all of that said - a lot of people seem to like the YCC beige color from SP's line-up on the alpha's. Out of curiosity, I created a poll. I appreciate both colors. If everyone is deeply divided, perhaps we offer two different sets of alpha's, although that would affect MOQ.

TL;DR
Vote for true solarized or the current YCC alpha color at the below form.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1AsO7t8JX8C7HsTczWZauXpTfLxA-O43UPCJucbapJPw/viewform (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1AsO7t8JX8C7HsTczWZauXpTfLxA-O43UPCJucbapJPw/viewform)
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:28:52
True Solarized alphas = standard nondescript beige of the white / beige series.  There are already lots of sets with white, off-white, and light beige alphas.  There are no sets with that rich beige YCC color and blue modifiers to offset it, which makes the original mock up so appealing to me. It's interesting and different.
Title: Re: [IC] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:32:37
True Solarized alphas = standard nondescript beige of the white / beige series.  There are already lots of sets with white, off-white, and light beige alphas.  There are no sets with that rich beige YCC color and blue modifiers to offset it, which makes the original mock up so appealing to me. It's interesting and different.

Definitely agree. Given a choice of the two, I'd love the darker. After danielucf mentioned the color matching, it has stirred up enough interest for a quick poll to see if the majority of others feel the same way. End goal for me is to get the set produced, and I think that I will probably lose some people if we just pick one or the other, which is why I think we might need an option for a slightly higher expense.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:45:22
I asked for a quote on the *ENTIRE* set - so bear in mind this is not parting out any alphas / iso kits / numpads / tsangan / graphic modifier keys / etc. We could separate them out into smaller sets, I have no idea how many orders we would get, if we would even come close to the 150 mark or not (which is where the price becomes a little more reasonable), so that might be our next move.

Just FYI if you're not aware -- you need to get pricing for each set individually.  You can't infer much about pricing of smaller kits based on the megakit.

You could make the "\|" key font magenta as well.

The only issue is on a 60 percent board. The color order from bottom to top on the mods will be out of order.

Can you explain why the Backslash color should be different for a 60% board? ... I'm not following.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:50:12
Quote from: hashbaz
Just FYI if you're not aware -- you need to get pricing for each set individually.  You can't infer much about pricing of smaller kits based on the megakit.

I figured as much. To me the $89 is totally worth a full set of keys plus a few extras, I haven't really guaged gripe factor on pricing yet so good to know if it comes to that, thanks.

Quote from: hashbaz
Can you explain why the Backslash color should be different for a 60% board? ... I'm not following.

I am guessing because there is no ~, since the escape key goes there, so with escape a dark color, the whole left side is dark, but the right side has one alpha-colored key. Could be wrong :)
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:52:27
Voted for the more unique beige.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:19:32
Voted for the more unique beige.

I also voted for the FIRST and only decent colourway to appear thus far  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:20:19
Should include GH username into the poll, or we can vote repeatedly!
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: HendyZone on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:22:54
voted for YCC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:24:31
Should include GH username into the poll, or we can vote repeatedly!

Oh right, I was going on the honor system. Good suggestion
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:38:53
On another note - I would feel bad if the truly-matched colors were available, and we used YCC anyways and still called it "Solarized", because well, it wouldn't be! So, how about some alternative names? Maybe something like "SemiSolar"?
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:42:18
Penumbra  :)) (doesn't sound as well)
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: bueller on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:45:59
On another note - I would feel bad if the truly-matched colors were available, and we used YCC anyways and still called it "Solarized", because well, it wouldn't be! So, how about some alternative names? Maybe something like "SemiSolar"?

Only one way to fix that, do them in the legit Solarized colors :)
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 03:07:32
Since we seem pretty deeply divided so far (will let the poll run in case I am proved wrong later), I am thinking of the following for the sets. I don't really think we need to part this down into tiny kits for everything. ISO is still its own set because I'm guessing that is the least commonly ordered kit and might save a few bucks for the majority of the group. I am thinking maybe we put that in the set with the mods - then you buy the mods + the color alphas you want and thats it.

This is also assuming that SP comes back with a "Yes - we do multiple custom colors at no (or little) charge".

[attachimg=1]

Thoughts?
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 16 October 2013, 04:28:14
Damn it, now I'll just be able to buy both!
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:02:38
I went for "true". I just picked it to go for authenticity.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 October 2013, 07:33:36
You need an ErgoDox kit hombre
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: nickr on Wed, 16 October 2013, 10:58:48
The SemiSolar has that aged plastic look, which is really well suited for SA keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:08:55
I like Semi-Solar on SA profile -- that would look awesome.

Am I correct in thinking that these are colors you're using?
EDIT: Yep, I see it in the OP, sorry 'bout that!


(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5465/9277408717_fb34eb6fa1.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3814/9280301224_9994524422.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7416/9280232962_3048764afd.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/9280318282_89bee0848d.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7425/9277471277_374d390816.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3724/9277441397_0d248d2442.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5452/9280334216_1eecd73ca3.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3785/9280346398_b3257168e6.jpg)

Niiiice.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:13:12
Go with the first one that you have in the OP, that one is the best

if only this wasn't SP..regardless, good luck! nice color scheme!
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:19:34
Quote
There is a minimum amount of material that needs to be purchased as well - the cost for that is $575.

Heard back from SP this morning. Apparently there is a charge, so matching every color is probably out of the scope of this group buy.


Am I correct in thinking that these are colors you're using?

Show Image
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5465/9277408717_fb34eb6fa1.jpg)

Show Image
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3814/9280301224_9994524422.jpg)


Do you have SP color chip equivalents for the other colors?

Those are the colors, yes. I used the eyedropper tool to get the colors for the mock-up. Your chip looks a little more yellow than the one I got from SP's site - but its pretty close to what I was thinking.

I do have the other colors. Take a look at the image in the OP.
EDIT: The magenta in the original set was not eye-droppered in hopes that they would match it, RCR is more of a pink-ish..
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:29:26
You can probably tell  :)) , but I'm super excited for this GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:34:35
So, I guess you can't go with the "true" color then, right?

Hopefully, we can get close to those colors.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:42:47
The whites group in SP's colors looks like there might be a closer match that we could offer for the more true alphas. Any suggestions? Even some of the greys.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 October 2013, 11:45:18
Yay, now we can get the beige one!
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 14:40:39
EDIT: I am thinking WCK is the closest for those interested in a more true solarized theme:

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Tarzan_ on Wed, 16 October 2013, 14:53:31
EDIT: I am thinking WCK is the closest for those interested in a more true solarized theme:

(Attachment Link)

That colorset would look amazing on one of the vintage Cherry models, like a G80-1501 or similar.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: frogamic on Wed, 16 October 2013, 17:05:39
Why don't you make the bottom row keys orange, yellow, violet and/or cyan since these are unused from the solarized palette?
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 16 October 2013, 23:35:47
Gaah, I just noticed the UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT keys instead of arrows.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Wed, 16 October 2013, 23:44:13
Gaah, I just noticed the UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT keys instead of arrows.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.jpg

Yeah - I actually would want arrows myself. I kind of just copied legends from similar sets when I made the mock-ups. I originally had arrows as you can still see in 2 of the attachments in the OP. I should change them back to arrows methinks.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: darkfire32 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 00:40:07
You need an ErgoDox kit hombre

This please.

Can't wait to start swapping with the Calm Depths set.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: cicicicici on Thu, 17 October 2013, 01:26:22
YCC FTW!! ;D
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:10:48
VOTED

I love this set. :D
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:54:02
You need an ErgoDox kit hombre

This please.

Can't wait to start swapping with the Calm Depths set.

All for doing an ergodox kit. How passionate are people about having multiple colors on the ergodox set? I am wondering because if we wanted alpha colors on the ergodox kit, we would either need to include some extra keys with it (alphas in both colors) or just have all of the keys the mod color.

I don't own an ergodox, not really my thing, so what do you guys want to do there?

Also - I have no idea which profiles the ergodox keys are supposed to be for SA profile.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: brialona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:56:51
I would be down for these depending on price
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Tarzan_ on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:00:12
I would be interested in an ErgoDox kit.  Not sure what keycap profiles are optimal, I'm still acquiring the components to go with the PCBs I've purchased.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:01:53
Added some newer mock-ups in the OP to part out the set a little more. Pending responses from ErgoDox questions - we can add that too.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:08:50
By the way, we have more votes for the semi-solarized alphas than solarized (60% vs 40%).  So semi-solarized should be the main ones :)
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:34:50
The more I look at both versions, the more I think the semi-solarized is better.

I like that it isn't just an off-white hospital color.

Granted, I would probably like to remain authentic and stay "true".
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:12:11
I think you should go for colored mods, not colored legends for the mods.

Or atleast have this as an option.

Also you can have some colored mods this way for the ErgoDox.

As for profile, depends on what you decide for the base kit, however refer to this GB: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

The 23 Commando GB was radical in my view for SA, as it set a good profile layout that allowed for a very good arrangement for the SA profile keysets.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: cirrus82 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:42:43
I'd be in for a full True Solarized set...
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:25:20
The more I look at both versions, the more I think the semi-solarized is better.

I like that it isn't just an off-white hospital color.

Granted, I would probably like to remain authentic and stay "true".

Has this sort of colorway ( :-X) been done before? A blue and pale yellow? It feels like a nice scheme because it's conservative but not black and white or grey. It's not Handarbeit, but it's not stock Dolch either.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:41:11
I think you should go for colored mods, not colored legends for the mods.

Or atleast have this as an option.

Honestly, I don't have the intention of adding colored mods here. The solarized scheme does not include the bright colors as a base, and IMO for good reason. If tons of people want them for some reason, I'm not against creating an extra keys set for those.

I've added my take on what you might want for an ergodox kit. I am just copying key and color ideas for them from other group buys. I will need help from someone to verify if the kit is sufficient in terms of number of keys and what their profiles should be.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:44:27
I like the ergodox kit, but missing the extra colors :/
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:48:48
I like the ergodox kit, but missing the extra colors :/

If you think there will be enough interest in having alternate base key cap colors, we can try a poll for that. Also, would need suggestions on what keys should be what color.

ALSO: If anyone is in the bay area (I'm in San Jose), it would be cool to get some sorting help when / if it comes to that to make sure all of the sets go out correctly.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: mashby on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:39:44
I thought I was done buying key caps, but I think you may have changed my mind.

I'm a big fan of solarized and I think this set looks pretty awesome. Very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:14:17
I think you should go for colored mods, not colored legends for the mods.

Or atleast have this as an option.

Honestly, I don't have the intention of adding colored mods here. The solarized scheme does not include the bright colors as a base, and IMO for good reason. If tons of people want them for some reason, I'm not against creating an extra keys set for those.

I've added my take on what you might want for an ergodox kit. I am just copying key and color ideas for them from other group buys. I will need help from someone to verify if the kit is sufficient in terms of number of keys and what their profiles should be.

The commando gb shows the profiles for the ergodox keys. It's in the description.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 17 October 2013, 17:20:52
Personally I think you should drop one of the alpha kits.  Keeps things focused and doesn't split the alpha kit numbers ==> cheaper for everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: ijprest on Thu, 17 October 2013, 20:34:59
Personally I think you should drop one of the alpha kits.  Keeps things focused and doesn't split the alpha kit numbers ==> cheaper for everyone.

I'd probably order one of each, if both were available... but my preference is still "authentic" Solarized.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 17 October 2013, 21:45:12
I've already set aside the moolah for these babies.  SA Profile is my NEW addiction here on Geekhack  :thumb: .

Just make sure to finalize the colours before accepting payments soon.  Of course the retro look is what I'm after, such as the Semi-Solarized.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: piraterice on Fri, 18 October 2013, 11:13:55
IT IS GOOD!I THINK IT WOULD ADD MORE SPECIAL KEY OF THIS ASSAY.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: pushcx on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:35:07
I'd definitely be interested in an Ergodox set, either colors. Love the 'super' and 'meta' keys.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: brialona on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:45:37
i might be interested in these depending on price
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: germy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 04:03:31
Semi solarized is smexy! Hope it gets chosen for production!
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Mystery AKA.NastyFan on Sat, 19 October 2013, 23:07:30
semi-solarized would be absolutely nice in DSA/SA.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: mashby on Sun, 20 October 2013, 18:01:46
SA comes in different finishes doesn't it? Has a finish been chosen?
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 20 October 2013, 18:11:58
Smooth for wear uniformity?
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 20 October 2013, 18:32:17
Smooth for wear uniformity?

I usually hope for more smooth key cap GBs.

When you get a matte finish, it feels good for a little while. Then, it feels weird because some keys are smooth and some keys are still matte.

The other issue is in the long run the key tops get smooth and greasy looking while the sides look matte.

In the end, it looks like you type on your keyboard while eating fried chicken.

We should try a smooth set for the next GB.

This is my vote. Lol!
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 20 October 2013, 18:51:26
Did not know there was a choice in finish - what you guys are saying makes sense though.

There are a few other developments on this.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 20 October 2013, 20:23:27
Wow! Using Gmk sounds cool. They might have a high MOQ though.

I didn't know GMK can produce SA profile.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 20 October 2013, 20:27:26
Wow! Using Gmk sounds cool. They might have a high MOQ though.

I didn't know GMK can produce SA profile.

It wouldn't be SA if through GMK. Its just an idea - I know everyone has SA fever but personally the only reason I like it is because it isn't as thin as DCS. This being done through GMK will be contingent upon color choice. If they don't have a similar beige-ish yellow, I would not settle for pure yellow. Although, I guess its really going to be up to whoever runs this buy, I just don't think I'll have enough time to pour into a key cap GB.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 20 October 2013, 20:33:22
According to IvanIvanovich, GMK is receptive to making any color if there is demand.  Both he and Sherry have their ABS color wheel samples.  Another thing to note is a GMK set would not have those nice centralized large legends and would probably be more expensive.  The large centralized legends definitely add to the retro character of this set.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 20 October 2013, 20:55:44
  • Sherryton might step up to run this buy for us.
  • We need a completely new name for this set if we do the sun baked color alphas since this is purposely straying from Solarized. So far Photoelectric had the idea for "Penumbra" which sounds cool to me. Other suggestions should chime in if there are any.

If Sherryton would want to, considering his own huge backorder on Handarbeit and another Colourway set.  He's got his business to help prop up any flagging order numbers because we all know GMK are such sticklers for 400 orders of anything.  I still wouldn't rely on GMK to produce these because ultimately we want SA and GMK won't even bother to lift a finger to make them to our specs.

The arrogance with which they keep on displaying shouldn't be rewarded by us.  They either stick to our original colour specs and design or we go straight to SP.

We should never be held over a barrel by one single company  >:( .  Let them sweat for business, instead of us pushing to have them grace our keyboards with their junk (being funny here).

Also I'm happy with the forth coming new naming title of this key-set "Penumbra".  Simple, unique and easy to say.  That's what it's all about  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sun, 20 October 2013, 22:37:22
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/shadowfacts.png)
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: bueller on Sun, 20 October 2013, 22:52:33
  • Sherryton might step up to run this buy for us.
  • We need a completely new name for this set if we do the sun baked color alphas since this is purposely straying from Solarized. So far Photoelectric had the idea for "Penumbra" which sounds cool to me. Other suggestions should chime in if there are any.

If Sherryton would want to, considering his own huge backorder on Handarbeit and another Colourway set.  He's got his business to help prop up any flagging order numbers because we all know GMK are such sticklers for 400 orders of anything.  I still wouldn't rely on GMK to produce these because ultimately we want SA and GMK won't even bother to lift a finger to make them to our specs.

The arrogance with which they keep on displaying shouldn't be rewarded by us.  They either stick to our original colour specs and design or we go straight to SP.

We should never be held over a barrel by one single company  >:( .  Let them sweat for business, instead of us pushing to have them grace our keyboards with their junk (being funny here).

Also I'm happy with the forth coming new naming title of this key-set "Penumbra".  Simple, unique and easy to say.  That's what it's all about  :thumb: .

To be honest I'd prefer we stick with SP on this one. Sometimes it's nice to know that it's not going to take months just to meet MOQ, I want this set soon :D
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: sprit on Sun, 20 October 2013, 23:16:13
     I Do I Do I Do!   Love It  All    :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: Ryu on Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:09:05
Why not some mods for HHKB-like layout?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:56:37
Why not some mods for HHKB?  :)

Welcome to Geekhack!

And ... FTFY :p
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: mtl on Mon, 21 October 2013, 12:04:05
Smooth for wear uniformity?

One problem with the smooth finish I have noticed after a hot summer with Round 4 sphericals and no air conditioning is they feel sticky in high humidity, as they cup your fingertips. FWIW I haven't had any problems with the matte Round 3 DSAs wearing smooth, but maybe I don't type enough.
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 21 October 2013, 12:47:02
Like this color, but I am not a fans of SA profile  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 October 2013, 17:10:06
To give my input on the GMK vs SP discussion:
One big reason to go with GMK over SP is their thickness of caps - SP caps are much thinner than GMK caps.
However, SA profile caps are super thick.  I don't have a full set, just a few from a crap bag, but the caps I have are quite thick and wouldn't feel "cheap" like some people think DCS SP keycaps feel.  So since the general consensus here is to go with a retro looking style, I think it'd be best to stick with SA profile from SP since it gives us that profile, centered big alphas, and still is thick.
Just my two cents.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:25:23
Updated OP with new mock-ups and the new name, Penumbra! (Thanks Photoelectric for the name)

ErgoDox
Currently there is no ErgoDox kit in the images because of the small amount of requests for it so far - but it can be added back if enough people are interested. Register your interest for it here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform

Gathering some various pricing data from SP.

Let me know if you miss the graphic legend modifiers - To me they don't look right with the retro everything-else but if everyone is outraged then they can go back.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:27:50
Why not some mods for HHKB?  :)

Welcome to Geekhack!

And ... FTFY :p

Why not some mods for HHKB-like layout?  :)

What keys would need to be added? Don't know HHKB layout, its just not my thing.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:32:43
Updated OP with new mock-ups and the new name, Penumbra! (Thanks Photoelectric for the name)

ErgoDox
Currently there is no ErgoDox kit in the images because of the small amount of requests for it so far - but it can be added back if enough people are interested. Register your interest for it here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform

Gathering some various pricing data from SP.

Let me know if you miss the graphic legend modifiers - To me they don't look right with the retro everything-else but if everyone is outraged then they can go back.

Yeah I'm in the graphic mods camp, much prefer them.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:37:07
I could go either way with the mods--just want the set to happen beyond the mock ups.  I think modifiers look more natural / symmetric as lettering, personally.  There's already a lot happening with the set, in terms of all the random colors and contrasts.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:39:22
Updated OP with new mock-ups and the new name, Penumbra! (Thanks Photoelectric for the name)

ErgoDox
Currently there is no ErgoDox kit in the images because of the small amount of requests for it so far - but it can be added back if enough people are interested. Register your interest for it here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform

Gathering some various pricing data from SP.

Let me know if you miss the graphic legend modifiers - To me they don't look right with the retro everything-else but if everyone is outraged then they can go back.

Yeah I'm in the graphic mods camp, much prefer them.

Also started wondering when I was looking at them earlier - does the 10-key pad normally have some kind of graphical legends on them as well?  Like the enter key?

And while we are on that subject - I noticed that near the alphas, the enter key is labeled "RETURN" which I like better, but on the 10-key pad I have "ENTER". So..?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:42:35
DSA Retro did the same:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40175.0

(http://i.imgur.com/VQqL9qR.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:44:47
Actually looking over the previous SA sets and I think the thing that's throwing me off with the mock up is the differing font sizes for the mods. Check out the photo below for an example. If the legends on the mods are all going to be the same size then I'm happy to lose the graphic legends.

(http://i.imgur.com/MOpH5I1h.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:48:51
Actually looking over the previous SA sets and I think the thing that's throwing me off with the mock up is the differing font sizes for the mods. Check out the photo below for an example. If the legends on the mods are all going to be the same size then I'm happy to lose the graphic legends.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MOpH5I1h.jpg)


Yeah of course - I didn't spend enough time perfecting things in the mock-ups so its my fail. They would definitely be uniform.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:50:31
Actually looking over the previous SA sets and I think the thing that's throwing me off with the mock up is the differing font sizes for the mods. Check out the photo below for an example. If the legends on the mods are all going to be the same size then I'm happy to lose the graphic legends.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MOpH5I1h.jpg)


Yeah of course - I didn't spend enough time perfecting things in the mock-ups so its my fail. They would definitely be uniform.

Haha most people probably wouldn't have even noticed, I'm just totally picky about these sorts of things :)
Title: _
Post by: moogle on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:20:38
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Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:24:22
They are quite different colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:25:38
why GTL and GPA instead of a single gray?

Mainly because GPA wouldn't really show up on BED.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:27:32
GH Esc Keys? In grey? Not a dealbreaker but pink is probably my least favourite colour hahaha
Title: _
Post by: moogle on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:28:51
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Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:30:02
GH Esc Keys? In grey? Not a dealbreaker but pink is probably my least favourite colour hahaha

Actually I think we do need alternate ESC. I personally don't like RCR very much either. Good idea.

EDIT: Have not asked SP about that yet - I am assuming they do have a "GEEK HACK" key cap in SA row 1?

Like this but in SA + row 1
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:32:52
I believe geek hack design needs a permission from the admins.  I *think* that's the case.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:01:35
I believe geek hack design needs a permission from the admins.  I *think* that's the case.

So, perhaps a regular ESCAPE in the gray color then to keep this rolling.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:16:59
Down with the mock up for the base kit on the 1st page.
Just wanna ask, when will you plan to run the GB tho ?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:28:22
Down with the mock up for the base kit on the 1st page.
Just wanna ask, when will you plan to run the GB tho ?

Once I've ironed out all of the details - as you can tell there are still a few little things being tweaked. I won't put a hard date on when the GB will begin, but "soon" is probably a safe assumption for when it will begin. I want to give any ergodox people a chance to register their interest, if there are only a few or so then this set will probably not run ergodox sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:30:20
Down with the mock up for the base kit on the 1st page.
Just wanna ask, when will you plan to run the GB tho ?

Once I've ironed out all of the details - as you can tell there are still a few little things being tweaked. I won't put a hard date on when the GB will begin, but "soon" is probably a safe assumption for when it will begin. I want to give any ergodox people a chance to register their interest, if there are only a few or so then this set will probably not run ergodox sets.

Can I assume it won't be this month ?
Cause I'm hella broke  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:44:36
Can I assume it won't be this month ?
Cause I'm hella broke  :))

Probably still taking orders in a month - Pretty sure we will need to give it a month or so to hit the MOQ's for the prices we want. Let's imagine wrapping up orders and getting into production at the end of November, if things go well. Most people here (myself included) want them faster but I am guessing realistically it will be a month-ish.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:07:07
Wait, when did this get renamed? Not that I was in, anyway, as if I were to buy a new keycap set I'd go for the mocha thing MOZ is trotting around. But with the solarized set, at least I could sing about the sins of the solar empire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9RqZYGEF0) while typing. Which would be cool.

Cool is how I feel about this color combination. Not hot, not cold. Good luck anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:15:12
Probably still taking orders in a month - Pretty sure we will need to give it a month or so to hit the MOQ's for the prices we want. Let's imagine wrapping up orders and getting into production at the end of November, if things go well. Most people here (myself included) want them faster but I am guessing realistically it will be a month-ish.

Smart thing to do.  Even some of us can pay up immediately you need to think about the others you can't front up with the money now.  A month is a decent amount of time I should think, but I could be wrong, due to some may wanting it to go on longer (just my own understanding when involved with GB's thus far).

Besides you can fine tune the "Penumbra" (if you want) to give that extra appeal for some wanting a little more.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:16:53
GH Esc Keys? In grey? Not a dealbreaker but pink is probably my least favourite colour hahaha

Actually I think we do need alternate ESC. I personally don't like RCR very much either. Good idea.

EDIT: Have not asked SP about that yet - I am assuming they do have a "GEEK HACK" key cap in SA row 1?

Like this but in SA + row 1
Show Image
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg)


Ask them for a quote on getting one made, IIRC it's about $45 for DCS caps so we could probably get one made and distribute the cost throughout the set.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:32:06
Anyone think bright red might look better on ESCAPE ? Like "RR"?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:34:52
Anyone think bright red might look better on ESCAPE ? Like "RR"?

Yep, RA or RR.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GMC on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:37:36
Am late to this party and liking this in SA, but not so ken on the multicoloured mod legend text. Would be better with one colour for that.  Also would the ISO kit be cheaper if the return key had no legend? If so I'd be happy with that...
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:50:59
Am late to this party and liking this in SA, but not so ken on the multicoloured mod legend text. Would be better with one colour for that.  Also would the ISO kit be cheaper if the return key had no legend? If so I'd be happy with that...

First ISO suggestion, so we could remove the legend from the ISO kit. Might be a little cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 03:11:07
No one has mentioned deep dish or nubs yet for f/j/5 keys. I added both, I like nubs but I know a lot of people like deep dish.
Also tried replacing RCR with RR - both RR and RA look about the same, RR a little lighter which might give it more contrast against the base color. Let me know if you liked RCR better (pink).
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 22 October 2013, 03:17:47
No one has mentioned deep dish or nubs yet for f/j/5 keys. I added both, I like nubs but I know a lot of people like deep dish.
Also tried replacing RCR with RR - both RR and RA look about the same, RR a little lighter which might give it more contrast against the base color. Let me know if you liked RCR better (pink).

Good man, I'm in the deep dish camp :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AlexJP on Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:13:44
nice set. I'm in..
 ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:31:06
Deep dish
Legend mods
ErgoDox
RR for Escape with Geek Hack (In two rows)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 05:03:40
Am late to this party and liking this in SA, but not so ken on the multicoloured mod legend text. Would be better with one colour for that.  Also would the ISO kit be cheaper if the return key had no legend? If so I'd be happy with that...

I kinda like the multi coloured mods actually. :-x
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 05:29:07
Do you think enough people will notice the ergodox voting link?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 22 October 2013, 05:53:12
Yeah, the multi-coloured mods look great. I haven't looked at the first page in a while and the mock ups look fantastic. Surely this set will have no shortage of fans.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:25:12
Love the new name. I would be in for a set.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Hellmark on Tue, 22 October 2013, 10:11:57
Since things went for the more yellowy appearance for the alphas, I'm out.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 22 October 2013, 12:48:35
Since things went for the more yellowy appearance for the alphas, I'm out.

I'm afraid I have to agree. I much prefer the original colorway on the alphas. Lovin' the mods though.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GMC on Tue, 22 October 2013, 12:59:05
Any chance of adding a blank 1.75 mod in the base kit?

To use as right shift on an 1800 or pure board, or as a replacement for caps lock if anyone has an hhkb style gh60...
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:17:05
It's part of the Tsangan.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:20:20
Since things went for the more yellowy appearance for the alphas, I'm out.

I'm afraid I have to agree. I much prefer the original colorway on the alphas. Lovin' the mods though.

The yellow-beige was the original for the mock ups.  Then someone noted that Solarized uses a different beige, and the lighter alphas were introduced for a time.  More people voted for the "original" darker beige "semi-solarized" alphas, and the set got renamed.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:31:17
Any chance we could get blanks for this? Just single units in YCC or the Dark Blue?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Hellmark on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:43:25
Last I saw, the google docs poll had things fairly even, with the darker semisolar being just a percent or two ahead. What was the final results?

I do really love the blue from the mods though.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:47:56
It was more like 60% to 40% last I looked.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:48:45
Why aren't the legend colors on other keys like those in the nav cluster or numpad colored the same as the other grey keys on that row?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GMC on Tue, 22 October 2013, 14:32:29
It's part of the Tsangan.
It's not blank so would be no use for an hhkb style ctrl / caps lock switchout
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 14:39:11
u need a ctrl 1.75 then, part of what is often called the anti-capslock kit.

Then I would suggest:
1.75 capslock/ctrl full touch
1.75 capslock/ctrl stepped center stem
1.75 capslock/ctrl stepped off-center stem
1.50 capslock/ctrl
1.25 capslock/ctrl

These look like a lot, but many GB have had all these options in the past.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:12:06
Why aren't the legend colors on other keys like those in the nav cluster or numpad colored the same as the other grey keys on that row?

There's no good reason, other than I thought it would be really busy, which personally I am not a fan of / would not buy. Maybe the numpad could use a little love though for those who use it on a separate key pad. Maybe orange numlock / green enter?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:18:24
u need a ctrl 1.75 then, part of what is often called the anti-capslock kit.

Then I would suggest:
1.75 capslock/ctrl full touch
1.75 capslock/ctrl stepped center stem
1.75 capslock/ctrl stepped off-center stem
1.50 capslock/ctrl
1.25 capslock/ctrl

These look like a lot, but many GB have had all these options in the past.

yowza... is all of that necessary? Would definitely need to be a separate kit if so. Otherwise, the request was for a 1.75x modifier for row 3, which if blank could probably just be added somewhere as it would not affect price adversely.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GMC on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:35:27
u need a ctrl 1.75 then, part of what is often called the anti-capslock kit.

Then I would suggest:
1.75 capslock/ctrl full touch
1.75 capslock/ctrl stepped center stem
1.75 capslock/ctrl stepped off-center stem
1.50 capslock/ctrl
1.25 capslock/ctrl

These look like a lot, but many GB have had all these options in the past.

yowza... is all of that necessary? Would definitely need to be a separate kit if so. Otherwise, the request was for a 1.75x modifier for row 3, which if blank could probably just be added somewhere as it would not affect price adversely.
^this^
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 16:39:14
This link is 23 Commando, JIL did really good on that set: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

1. I think you need to add 4 - 1x button to R1 of Numpad kit. It's very useful for who use fullboard

2. If possible please create a Gamer kit  :eek:

3. You can see 23 COmmando upgrade kit 1. He made alot of keycap, so we will have more choice on our board

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--m5KnK0ftF0/Uiip9zbFsvI/AAAAAAAAEwo/oF0yLRlMJAY/w914-h720-no/2_upgrade_kit01.png)

4.... I AM IN  :p :p :p :p

Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: ohgodpleaseno on Tue, 22 October 2013, 18:35:53
I'm super excited about the set you have in the OP. The set matches my IDE color scheme that I set similar to Solarized.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mtl on Tue, 22 October 2013, 20:08:20
Ask 7bit about SP's new SA molds. All keys are available now with the correct row profile and width. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:28:07
Ask 7bit about SP's new SA molds. All keys are available now with the correct row profile and width. :)

How did this change so soon? :o

Stop the presses!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryu on Wed, 23 October 2013, 00:17:39
Why not some mods for HHKB?  :)

Welcome to Geekhack!

And ... FTFY :p

Why not some mods for HHKB-like layout?  :)

What keys would need to be added? Don't know HHKB layout, its just not my thing.

I will be very happy if you can bring a kit contains:
Row2 1x 1u ESCAPE (already in Tsangan Kit)
Row2 1x 1u \|
Row3 1x 1.5u DELETE
Row3 1x 1.75u CONTROL
Row3 1x 1.75u SHIFT (already in Tsangan Kit)
Row3 1x 1u FN
Row4 2x 1.5u META (I always use ALT instead if there is no proper keycaps...)
Row4 2x 1u ALT (I always use left and right arrow key instead if there is no proper keycaps...)
Row4 1x 7u(for GH60?) Space bar (already in Tsangan Kit)

BTW, I'm loving solarized color scheme with vim and terminal.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: cicicicici on Wed, 23 October 2013, 10:24:50
request please,
make a spacebar for leopold :D
it's so hard to find some compatible spacebar for leopold
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 24 October 2013, 09:27:01
Dear All Who Are Interested In This Set,

due to unforeseen personal circumstances, Ryan Uber will not be able to run this group buy as he has to focus on something unrelated to keyboards for the immediate future.  Having discussed the situation with him, I have consulted BunnyLake for advice and tips on running a group buy, and Bunny has in turn offered to make this set a reality with the help of his Ctrl Alt Store.  That is great news for all of us, as Bunny and his team now have the infrastructure in place to deal with orders as well as experience with running Signature Plastics keycap group buys.  And personally, I think this set fits well with current and past Ctrl Alt Store sets in terms of personality and being unusual.

I am glad that this concept now has a good chance of ending up on our keyboards!  Please thank BunnyLake for allowing it to happen!  And thanks to Ryan Uber again for coming up with the idea and all the work on the current mock ups, communication with SP, responding to feedback, and other organizing details.


Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 09:30:09
Hope all is fine with Ryan.

Excited for this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 24 October 2013, 09:33:34
Thanks to Bunnylake for picking this one up!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:01:39
yes indeedy guys i will be picking this up so it can still happen without to much delay

i dont wanna sit on this long but would be interested in feedback about timing with this set, im happy to run it alongside the nostalgia gb or i can launch this just after nostalgia ordering ends, so in about 2 and half weeks, i have spent some time going through this thread as best as possible today, and will do my best to keep as many people happy as possible whilst maintaining the integrity and vision of the original idea
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:30:45
yes indeedy guys i will be picking this up so it can still happen without to much delay

i dont wanna sit on this long but would be interested in feedback about timing with this set, im happy to run it alongside the nostalgia gb or i can launch this just after nostalgia ordering ends, so in about 2 and half weeks, i have spent some time going through this thread as best as possible today, and will do my best to keep as many people happy as possible whilst maintaining the integrity and vision of the original idea

Probably a better idea to fire it up after Nostalgia to let people's wallets have a chance to recover. Excited for my first SA set!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:52:54
Probably a better idea to fire it up after Nostalgia to let people's wallets have a chance to recover. Excited for my first SA set!

This, give the wallets some time to recover.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:55:23
Probably a better idea to fire it up after Nostalgia to let people's wallets have a chance to recover. Excited for my first SA set!

This, give the wallets some time to recover.

fair enough guys, i understand that

ive gone ahead and we have the quotes for this now already

is super easy to go live when anyone wants, once i put it up, ill leave the buy open for 30 days, then 4 weeks for production, so a nice 8 week turnround whenever anyone wants to go
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:56:59
oh ps, im also looking into offering one extra kit, if people are interested, of the alt color solarized alphas
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:58:15
Probably a better idea to fire it up after Nostalgia to let people's wallets have a chance to recover. Excited for my first SA set!

This, give the wallets some time to recover.

fair enough guys, i understand that

ive gone ahead and we have the quotes for this now already

is super easy to go live when anyone wants, once i put it up, ill leave the buy open for 30 days, then 4 weeks for production, so a nice 8 week turnround whenever anyone wants to go

Actually you make a good point, with an 8 week turnaround maybe it should start asap. 30 days seems like heaps of time for people to get their cash together.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:58:34
Probably a better idea to fire it up after Nostalgia to let people's wallets have a chance to recover. Excited for my first SA set!

This, give the wallets some time to recover.

fair enough guys, i understand that

ive gone ahead and we have the quotes for this now already

is super easy to go live when anyone wants, once i put it up, ill leave the buy open for 30 days, then 4 weeks for production, so a nice 8 week turnround whenever anyone wants to go

group buy + ctrl alt store = art form!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 24 October 2013, 10:58:43
oh ps, im also looking into offering one extra kit, if people are interested, of the alt color solarized alphas

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLEASE! I think this is a brilliant idea, they weren't that far apart in votes when it ended.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:00:09
oh ps, im also looking into offering one extra kit, if people are interested, of the alt color solarized alphas

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLEASE!

ok just getting an additional quote for that now

to be clear

it will be an addon, so you would still need the base set with the penumbra alphas, but, i just wanna give the option to those that want it
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:01:36
oh ps, im also looking into offering one extra kit, if people are interested, of the alt color solarized alphas

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLEASE!

ok just getting an additional quote for that now

to be clear

it will be an addon, so you would still need the base set with the penumbra alphas, but, i just wanna give the option to those that want it

Just shut up and take my money hahahah
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:03:02
Sounds excellent, we are around halfway with the Nostalgia? If yes, ten maybe you ca start the GB now I suppose.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:06:41
Sounds excellent, we are around halfway with the Nostalgia? If yes, ten maybe you ca start the GB now I suppose.

there will be 2 weeks left on nostalgia on sunday

as for starting this, i have a few hoops to jump through first, i need to get some artwork done, a logo etc and rejiggle the site a little, but ill get things rolling

we have a pretty low minimum to hit on this to make the pricing acceptable, and one we will hit easy so this will all be go
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:42:53
You should definitely take your time, Bunny, and make sure your current projects are going to go smoothly.  This is going to be great :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:43:35
Sounds excellent. I can help with artwork and other such related if you need help. Let me know if you need anything.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:50:47
Bunny: i think you should read my suggest.  :p We still miss some keys on numpad set

This link is 23 Commando, JIL did really good on that set: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

1. I think you need to add 4 - 1x button to R1 of Numpad kit. It's very useful for who use fullboard

2. If possible please create a Gamer kit  :eek:

3. You can see 23 COmmando upgrade kit 1. He made alot of keycap, so we will have more choice on our board

Show Image
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--m5KnK0ftF0/Uiip9zbFsvI/AAAAAAAAEwo/oF0yLRlMJAY/w914-h720-no/2_upgrade_kit01.png)


4.... I AM IN  :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:54:54
Bunny: i think you should read my suggest.  :p We still miss some keys on numpad set

This link is 23 Commando, JIL did really good on that set: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

1. I think you need to add 4 - 1x button to R1 of Numpad kit. It's very useful for who use fullboard

2. If possible please create a Gamer kit  :eek:

3. You can see 23 COmmando upgrade kit 1. He made alot of keycap, so we will have more choice on our board

Show Image
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--m5KnK0ftF0/Uiip9zbFsvI/AAAAAAAAEwo/oF0yLRlMJAY/w914-h720-no/2_upgrade_kit01.png)


4.... I AM IN  :p :p :p :p

the numberpad will be totally complete sir, as for extension kits, i kinda think keeping this kit clean is for the best, and more in-keeping with the original IP

if there is a huge huge demand ill look into it, but i think commando needed that for its theme, and i dont think this set does, however, id be interested in hearing others thoughts

Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 24 October 2013, 12:31:05
Ask 7bit about SP's new SA molds. All keys are available now with the correct row profile and width. :)

Hey Bunny,

I didn't see a response to this before. Above ^

Is this true?


Also, Moz suggested I start an IC to see if people wanted legend support for ergdox mods to go with this set. That would involve putting it to a vote I think.

I wanted to do it but I never did one before.

Do you think enough people would be interested?

The main issues would be legend colors and getting people to agree on a common setup. Many people don't just use the default setup.

Most ergodox kits are blank. I think that would look weird considering the alphas on an ergodox have legends.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 24 October 2013, 12:35:11
It seems like there need to be ErgoDox-specific group buys to really satisfy ErgoDox users.  This is a general observation, having seen the laments of ErgoDox users in various group buy threads.  Any "standard" group buy other than DSA profile will probably have trouble being perfect for ergonomic layouts and layouts strongly deviating from the "standard" (common).
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:01:24
I've said it before, legend ErgoDox GB is hard, very hard, since we don't have enough users to be able to have these limited number of users to be further segregate based on specific layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:04:10
I hope you still keep to run this set in SA profile.

I want to have more kits, so we can use with most layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:05:05
It will be SA :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Signature on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:05:33
Just a remember, the ISO kit isnt really a iso kit, ISO uses a smaller left shift plus a R1 key
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:11:16
oh ps, im also looking into offering one extra kit, if people are interested, of the alt color solarized alphas

(http://i.imgur.com/gPOM4.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:25:51
sorry for the late reply guys, i was out

so here is the deal with ergodox kits, i made one for my hyperfuse gb, if a key profile that is perfect for dox users, and basically nobody ordered it, in fact so so so few people ordered it, in order to make it possible for the people who did order it, i had to shell out a ton of my own money to make it happen, i really like to make these things happen, and if the numbers are there, im happy too, but it is my experience that the numbers arent even close to making it viable, if someone wants to run a poll about a dox kit, and we can get enough interest, im down with it, but.... it has to be a poll for people who will actually lay down money to back up their desire for the kit, because i have found that lots of people are vocal about wanting something, until it comes time to order
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:33:08
The GB for CalmDepths was different, it had many many orders for the ErgoDox.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:41:48
The GB for CalmDepths was different, it had many many orders for the ErgoDox.

i thought it only hit in the mid 40's

but for an ergo kit that is still plenty, but that massively impacts how many ergodox kits will be sold in this gb as they are all waiting on that one

im not saying no, im saying if the orders are there ill happily do it, i was just saying i dont think they are, their is a poll in the op about dox kits, i think it has 9 people in it expressing an interest last time i checked, and i would be surprised if all 9 converted to orders based on prior experience, but i would be very very happy to be proved wrong
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:42:50
yeah i dont know if many people knew that hyper fuse had a ergodox kit and yes i know it showed the kit right there in the first picture.

bunny not sure if you saw that for the commando SA profile one the ergodox orders were very low as well and to make it work they ordered the blanks unsorted because there was so little to have to sort, that lowered the price alot.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:51:00
yeah i dont know if many people knew that hyper fuse had a ergodox kit and yes i know it showed the kit right there in the first picture.

bunny not sure if you saw that for the commando SA profile one the ergodox orders were very low as well and to make it work they ordered the blanks unsorted because there was so little to have to sort, that lowered the price alot.

i dont pay for sorting anyway so i cant shave money off that way

i really do wanna support the ergodox community, and the dsa version of hyperfuse was really just a nod to them, that buy would have been dcs only if it wasnt for ergodox

i think what i will do with this buy on the order page, have a tick box for if people want an ergodox kit, and a tick box for if people only want their order if they can get a dox kit, that way i can invoice for the dox kit separately if we can hit a tier where the price makes sense, and not invoice the orders at all that will only proceed if the dox is included, but keep everything running smoothly for the non dox users



Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 24 October 2013, 13:55:39
Thank you bunny, really hope we can hit the MOQ for the ErgoDox.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 24 October 2013, 14:11:54
bunny, ill be honest with you for hyper fused i ordered a DCS base kit actually for my ergodox, the DCS base with DSA mods works really well for ergodox as i've discussed in the past. The dsa kit i bought in hyper fuse is actually for a normal TKL board or GH60; for some reason i like DSA on normal boards but cant stand it on the ergodox.

here is what the mix looks like, i think i have shown this before.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3805/9161092329_f26b16eb32.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/panicfx/9161092329/)

my point is i think selling just a dsa mod kit for ErgoDox is fine without offering DSA base is fine. though others would need to chime in

in fact when i get back from a bunch of different trips in november i think im going to put up an IC for ergodox dsa "add-on" kits for DCS sets like Klaxon, CCnG, and Raindrop

edit: btw i love this Penumbra set colors, i know im going off topic here, sorry about that, its related!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 24 October 2013, 14:41:56
I don't think allot of people noticed the ergodox vote. I almost missed it.

There was no notice. It was a color vote before.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: ChillyVanilly on Thu, 24 October 2013, 15:41:22
oh ps, im also looking into offering one extra kit, if people are interested, of the alt color solarized alphas

Super interested in this.

I was hoping for a poll option for Penumbra mods and Solarized alphas, but it wasn't.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: ohgodpleaseno on Thu, 24 October 2013, 16:48:41
So is the non-ErgoDox set a sure thing at this point?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:48:20
I hope Ryan is OK and that he can get in on this set once things are set up. Thanks Bunny for stepping in. I'm confident that this will be a smooth GB now. I'll probably get both alpha sets if they are available.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 24 October 2013, 19:52:43
Hope everything is well Ryan, I just noticed we live in the same city!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 06:04:01
(http://i.imgur.com/BcyAZFm.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 25 October 2013, 06:06:03
You included a freaking code key?!?!?!?!?! I just went from six to midnight.

<3 you guys.

EDIT: AND A R3 CTRL. This just went to the very top of my 'MUST BUY' list, transferring cash to my Paypal now.

EDIT MKII: Is one of those Esc keys for 60% boards?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 06:12:33
You included a freaking code key?!?!?!?!?! I just went from six to midnight.

<3 you guys.

EDIT: AND A R3 CTRL. This just went to the very top of my 'MUST BUY' list, transferring cash to my Paypal now.

EDIT MKII: Is one of those Esc keys for 60% boards?

haha thanks sir

and its just to give people options

your always better to have too many than too few

still slightly fine tuning things but getting pretty close

i have quotes on offering the solarized add on alphas, its kinda pricey unless we hit 25 orders, and im worried it will struggle as people may not want 2 sets of alphas, that being said, id love to have it included myself
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 25 October 2013, 06:14:12
I'm gonna try to get a code key in all the future group buys :)


I added the keys, Ruby, Python and Go. (for developers)
If you want anything different let us know.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 06:14:41
You included a freaking code key?!?!?!?!?! I just went from six to midnight.

<3 you guys.

EDIT: AND A R3 CTRL. This just went to the very top of my 'MUST BUY' list, transferring cash to my Paypal now.

EDIT MKII: Is one of those Esc keys for 60% boards?


ooooo actually

you make a real good point i hadnt though about on the escape

what ill do is add another one for the row below, i was having a mind blank that the top 2 rows are different in SA
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 25 October 2013, 06:21:41
This is shaping up to be my favourite set. It's going to make it much easier to give Calm Depths to my brother for Xmas.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 25 October 2013, 08:46:07
A 1u plus for the numpad would be excellent.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GMC on Fri, 25 October 2013, 09:01:02
Is there a view on price for this yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 09:02:47
Is there a view on price for this yet?


yup i have all the quotes and itll run much like any other gb i run, with fixed pricing

Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 25 October 2013, 09:35:32
Cool!  Great work on the new mock up!

Just thought I'd throw some color scans from Kroengar together.  These are the colors listed on Ryan's mock ups:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3814/9280301224_9994524422_m.jpg) (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3805/9277438095_a42cb3ff1a_m.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5465/9277408717_fb34eb6fa1_s.jpg) (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/9280307554_530834a845_s.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7425/9277424947_dfd82a24f6_s.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7425/9277471277_374d390816_s.jpg) (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5452/9280334216_1eecd73ca3_s.jpg) (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3785/9280346398_b3257168e6_s.jpg)

I love the color of the mods and alphas--very vintage vibe :)  And YCC looks buttery, like cheesecake.  It should be called Y(U)MM.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 25 October 2013, 09:59:24
I'm gonna try to get a code key in all the future group buys :)


I added the keys, Ruby, Python and Go. (for developers)
If you want anything different let us know.

Will you add "Erlang" as well?  :)

Oh, and off-center Control as a Caps Lock replacement???

This is a great looking set.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Krogenar on Fri, 25 October 2013, 10:25:16
And YCC looks buttery, like cheesecake.  It should be called Y(U)MM.

I know, I like the blue and yellow colors together. It's not blue and gold, but it works. Really looking forward to this set.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 25 October 2013, 10:36:44
Wow..I think this will be my 1st ever SA keycaps...really looking foward to it :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 25 October 2013, 11:05:40
Since we're all throwing wishes for additional keys. Any chance of adding a "CMD" for Mac users? This would replace the "WIN" key.

Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 11:16:49
when i comes to extra keys, its no bother for me to do them, its just a case of whether wanna pay that bit more

its not huge but as example numbers, lets say a basic tenkeyless set is 75, its whether the majority of people would be happy to pay 80 instead but have a few more options

i myself prefer more complete sets with extras and more option

i think what it comes down to nd the way i like to do things is this

set a price that is at a tier we can be pretty sure that we will hit, then if we break that tier, i like to use that extra bit of money to add more keys to sets and complete some of the requests people make

so if when i release the moclkups at order stage, that doesnt mean your extra keys you requested wont happen, its just a case of us breaking the price tier the set is priced at
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 25 October 2013, 11:43:20
when i comes to extra keys, its no bother for me to do them, its just a case of whether wanna pay that bit more

its not huge but as example numbers, lets say a basic tenkeyless set is 75, its whether the majority of people would be happy to pay 80 instead but have a few more options

i myself prefer more complete sets with extras and more option

i think what it comes down to nd the way i like to do things is this

set a price that is at a tier we can be pretty sure that we will hit, then if we break that tier, i like to use that extra bit of money to add more keys to sets and complete some of the requests people make

so if when i release the moclkups at order stage, that doesnt mean your extra keys you requested wont happen, its just a case of us breaking the price tier the set is priced at

I think this is a great way of doing things for a couple of reasons.

1) People place an order early because they want to see the higher tiers hit and the extra keys added.
2) It keeps the price down which means you will get more orders anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 11:44:38
when i comes to extra keys, its no bother for me to do them, its just a case of whether wanna pay that bit more

its not huge but as example numbers, lets say a basic tenkeyless set is 75, its whether the majority of people would be happy to pay 80 instead but have a few more options

i myself prefer more complete sets with extras and more option

i think what it comes down to nd the way i like to do things is this

set a price that is at a tier we can be pretty sure that we will hit, then if we break that tier, i like to use that extra bit of money to add more keys to sets and complete some of the requests people make

so if when i release the moclkups at order stage, that doesnt mean your extra keys you requested wont happen, its just a case of us breaking the price tier the set is priced at

I think this is a great way of doing things for a couple of reasons.

1) People place an order early because they want to see the higher tiers hit and the extra keys added.
2) It keeps the price down which means you will get more orders anyway.

thanks very much sir

i know some people like to see jsut regular tiers etc, but i think my way of doing things keeps things clear, and running smoothly, and just means at the end of the day things get made instead of falling through
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 25 October 2013, 11:50:59
when i comes to extra keys, its no bother for me to do them, its just a case of whether wanna pay that bit more

its not huge but as example numbers, lets say a basic tenkeyless set is 75, its whether the majority of people would be happy to pay 80 instead but have a few more options

i myself prefer more complete sets with extras and more option

i think what it comes down to nd the way i like to do things is this

set a price that is at a tier we can be pretty sure that we will hit, then if we break that tier, i like to use that extra bit of money to add more keys to sets and complete some of the requests people make

so if when i release the moclkups at order stage, that doesnt mean your extra keys you requested wont happen, its just a case of us breaking the price tier the set is priced at

I think this is a great way of doing things for a couple of reasons.

1) People place an order early because they want to see the higher tiers hit and the extra keys added.
2) It keeps the price down which means you will get more orders anyway.

thanks very much sir

i know some people like to see jsut regular tiers etc, but i think my way of doing things keeps things clear, and running smoothly, and just means at the end of the day things get made instead of falling through

To be honest I got pretty excited for this when I heard Ctrl Alt would be running it, knew we'd wind up with our caps much sooner as you're much better set up to deal with GB's that your average geekhacker. No offense to Ryan Uber.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: lcs on Fri, 25 October 2013, 12:06:41
I'm gonna try to get a code key in all the future group buys :)


I added the keys, Ruby, Python and Go. (for developers)
If you want anything different let us know.

But I barely use any of those :(

How about a vim and an emacs cap (written names)? it would be a good one to add a shortcut :P
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 25 October 2013, 12:16:04
I'm afraid if there will be a dozen extra modifier and special caps for all occasions, it might add a non-trivial amount to the set for those who don't use ANSI but need a tsangan kit--keeping in mind that this is an SA set, which is more expensive than normal DSC sets.  In that case, after weighing some quotes from SP, it might be better to offer them as an addon kit.  Plus, where do you put  thoseo "vim" and "emacs" legends--how often do you need to open a new emacs session--it's almost as fast to type "emacs" or "xemacs&" than have an entire dedicated modifier for them or a function row key.  Just thinking out loud.  "Code" and "hack" seem generic enough to just be there for flavor text.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 25 October 2013, 12:26:47
I'm afraid if there will be a dozen extra modifier and special caps for all occasions, it might add a non-trivial amount to the set for those who don't use ANSI but need a tsangan kit--keeping in mind that this is an SA set, which is more expensive than normal DSC sets.  In that case, after weighing some quotes from SP, it might be better to offer them as an addon kit.  Plus, where do you put  thoseo "vim" and "emacs" legends--how often do you need to open a new emacs session--it's almost as fast to type "emacs" or "xemacs&" than have an entire dedicated modifier for them or a function row key.  Just thinking out loud.  "Code" and "hack" seem generic enough to just be there for flavor text.

there is a new mockup i will show people shortly with some additions and a couple slight fixes to things in the last one

this will be the mockup we launch the buy with, should we go over tiers then i will start adding extra keys in, in an order i think that benefits the most people
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: lcs on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:02:16
I'm afraid if there will be a dozen extra modifier and special caps for all occasions, it might add a non-trivial amount to the set for those who don't use ANSI but need a tsangan kit--keeping in mind that this is an SA set, which is more expensive than normal DSC sets.  In that case, after weighing some quotes from SP, it might be better to offer them as an addon kit.  Plus, where do you put  thoseo "vim" and "emacs" legends--how often do you need to open a new emacs session--it's almost as fast to type "emacs" or "xemacs&" than have an entire dedicated modifier for them or a function row key.  Just thinking out loud.  "Code" and "hack" seem generic enough to just be there for flavor text.

Actually never need one, emacs is always open :P

I do like the code and hack keys, I was just replying to cody as he mentioned the ruby, python and go keys :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AlexJP on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:06:09
oh my.... this is BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: wilksMJP on Fri, 25 October 2013, 16:09:27
I am very interested in this. How much support would there be for UK ISO layouts? Just the blank keys?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mtl on Fri, 25 October 2013, 17:19:25
You included a freaking code key?!?!?!?!?! I just went from six to midnight.

haha thanks sir

and its just to give people options

your always better to have too many than too few

How about throwing in one of these? ;D

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: lcs on Fri, 25 October 2013, 19:02:24
You included a freaking code key?!?!?!?!?! I just went from six to midnight.

haha thanks sir

and its just to give people options

your always better to have too many than too few

How about throwing in one of these? ;D

(Attachment Link)

that's a very pretty key cap :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 25 October 2013, 22:11:56
I think it would make sense to have an addon kit for all the specific extra keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 26 October 2013, 02:01:27
Definitely glad to see this chugging along. Thanks everyone for keeping it going.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AndyCapets on Sat, 26 October 2013, 06:39:00
Really interested in this kit actually, got to love to the colors...
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: frogamic on Sat, 26 October 2013, 07:17:44
Any chance of an escape key to replace caps lock? Or am I the only one who remaps it like that, it's great for vim.

edit: are you ditching the super/meta keys?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BcyAZFm.png)

Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GMC on Sat, 26 October 2013, 07:27:01
Will the cursor keys be arrows as in mockup or could they be LEFT, RIGHT, UP, and DOWN like round 4 did. I think that fits better with the mod legends
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 26 October 2013, 10:01:00
Super and Meta would probably be more "generic" for Window and Mac users combined.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 26 October 2013, 11:48:04
Super and Meta would probably be more "generic" for Window and Mac users combined.

Agreed. If there isn't a specific "WIN" key, then no need for "CMD".
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: akikun on Sat, 26 October 2013, 12:45:12
Super and Meta would probably be more "generic" for Window and Mac users combined.

Agreed. If there isn't a specific "WIN" key, then no need for "CMD".

Yes! "Super" and "Meta" are much, much more appealing than "Win" and "Menu," IMHO.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 26 October 2013, 13:35:02
these arent final, we have some keys to add, and im working on iso options right now

but a little update on some kits

TKL
(http://i.imgur.com/Ct9oRHS.png)

Tsangan
(http://i.imgur.com/bHhWRup.png)

Numberpad
(http://i.imgur.com/fjqJmwe.png)

Alternate Alphas
(http://i.imgur.com/xGruZSt.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 26 October 2013, 15:44:56
Although I was the one that preferred the original alpha colors, now it looks like I'm going to have to order both. They just look so damn good.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 26 October 2013, 15:52:20
Heres the full keyboard mockup with the alternate alphas! :)

(http://i.imgur.com/viZa3gk.png)

and logo

(http://i.imgur.com/d5vKJcJ.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 26 October 2013, 16:52:28
wow this looks really good, I hope I have the money when the time comes
Title: _
Post by: moogle on Sat, 26 October 2013, 17:14:10
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Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 26 October 2013, 19:46:12
the alternate alphas looks much better imho.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: frogamic on Sat, 26 October 2013, 20:39:18
I'm gonna try to get a code key in all the future group buys :)


I added the keys, Ruby, Python and Go. (for developers)
If you want anything different let us know.

Make and LaTeX/TeX keys would be cool too, surely Make is more used than Ruby?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 26 October 2013, 21:03:27
these arent final, we have some keys to add, and im working on iso options right now

but a little update on some kits

TKL

Very nice BunnyLake, you seem to add that extra je ne sais quoi every time I see your latest posts on this penumbra beauty.

I have to say it, this SA Profile might be the sexiest one thus far.  Retro with a touch of newness added to it.  Excellent colour specs and layout for the entire key-set.

Hope to see this soon in the Group Buy section Bunny..... make it happen  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 26 October 2013, 21:06:20
I'm happy to go with the flow but does anyone else think the 60% Esc should be red as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 27 October 2013, 00:46:57
I'm gonna try to get a code key in all the future group buys :)


I added the keys, Ruby, Python and Go. (for developers)
If you want anything different let us know.

Make and LaTeX/TeX keys would be cool too, surely Make is more used than Ruby?

I removed Python, Ruby and Go

Replaced with Super Meta and Run.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sun, 27 October 2013, 22:47:10
I still dont know why you ignore my thing to add 4 more keycap on top of numpad kit. How about if i have fullboard like picture below???

I dont want to go somewhere to buy 4 x 1x keycap to complete set for my full board

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/DK9008_6.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sun, 27 October 2013, 23:06:48
Definity. I love to have an extra kit for this set.

I think it would make sense to have an addon kit for all the specific extra keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 27 October 2013, 23:38:38
I still dont know why you ignore my thing to add 4 more keycap on top of numpad kit. How about if i have fullboard like picture below???

I dont want to go somewhere to buy 4 x 1x keycap to complete set for my full board

Show Image
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/DK9008_6.jpg)


GB's here hardly ever cover those keys, not that many keyboards actually have that layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Ryu on Mon, 28 October 2013, 00:39:22
What keys would need to be added? Don't know HHKB layout, its just not my thing.

I will be very happy if you can bring a kit contains:
Row2 1x 1u ESCAPE (already in Tsangan Kit)
Row2 1x 1u \|
Row3 1x 1.5u DELETE
Row3 1x 1.75u CONTROL
Row3 1x 1.75u SHIFT (already in Tsangan Kit)
Row3 1x 1u FN
Row4 2x 1.5u META (I always use ALT instead if there is no proper keycaps...)
Row4 2x 1u ALT (I always use left and right arrow key instead if there is no proper keycaps...)
Row4 1x 7u(for GH60?) Space bar (already in Tsangan Kit)

BTW, I'm loving solarized color scheme with vim and terminal.  :D

Could you please add these two keycaps at least? 1x \| in Row2 and 1.5x DELETE in Row3.
I think HHKB users will like these. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Mon, 28 October 2013, 03:32:33
I still dont know why you ignore my thing to add 4 more keycap on top of numpad kit. How about if i have fullboard like picture below???

I dont want to go somewhere to buy 4 x 1x keycap to complete set for my full board

Show Image
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/DK9008_6.jpg)


GB's here hardly ever cover those keys, not that many keyboards actually have that layout.

i can remind you 2 nearest GB use SA profile are Calm Depths & 23 Commando. Both of GB supported.

The 2nd, not many keyboard support that layout. But many people use pad.

Finally, i hope Bunny have a great GB that support most layout like 2 GB of SA profile before.

Bonus you 2 pad use R4

(http://i.imgur.com/4law7Im.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/v1FNuvC.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: frogamic on Mon, 28 October 2013, 04:04:29
Those 4 keys could also be used to replace the escape key for a little extra variety.
They could be novelty ones like Geek Hack, Go, Run, Make, or vim or emacs logos. Or 4 awesome faces that match the colour scheme.
perhaps make a 1x F-row novelty set? I'd order it.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Mon, 28 October 2013, 04:40:36
frog: yes. GH button can be used. But GO,RUN cannot use, because different ROW. SA is a good profile, but it is not easy to change between different ROW
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: frogamic on Mon, 28 October 2013, 04:59:07
sorry I wasn't clear, those were ideas for what to put on those 4 keys if they were to be included, since they're generally novelty type caps afaik.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 28 October 2013, 05:56:36
sorry for the late replies guys, had a day or 2 away from the forum

everything people are saying is being noted and we will do our best for everyone, should have the final mockups with you soon
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 28 October 2013, 06:55:45
sorry for the late replies guys, had a day or 2 away from the forum

everything people are saying is being noted and we will do our best for everyone, should have the final mockups with you soon

Geezus Bunny take it easy.  Don't forget to relax and take care of any personal business first before jumping in here to hold our hands constantly.

I can wait for any forthcoming news because I'm not addicted to buying everything immediately and demanding next day delivery from you.  Besides there are so many other Group Buys that are currently running hence we won't crucify you for missing any posts here.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 28 October 2013, 06:56:51
sorry for the late replies guys, had a day or 2 away from the forum

everything people are saying is being noted and we will do our best for everyone, should have the final mockups with you soon

Geezus Bunny take it easy.  Don't forget to relax and take care of any personal business first before jumping in here to hold our hands constantly.

I can wait for any forthcoming news because I'm not addicted to buying everything immediately and demanding next day delivery from you.  Besides there are so many other Group Buys that are currently running hence we won't crucify you for missing any posts here.

haha yeah i basically just took this weekend off as a nice break
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: akikun on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:24:50
sorry for the late replies guys, had a day or 2 away from the forum

everything people are saying is being noted and we will do our best for everyone, should have the final mockups with you soon

Geezus Bunny take it easy.  Don't forget to relax and take care of any personal business first before jumping in here to hold our hands constantly.

I can wait for any forthcoming news because I'm not addicted to buying everything immediately and demanding next day delivery from you.  Besides there are so many other Group Buys that are currently running hence we won't crucify you for missing any posts here.

haha yeah i basically just took this weekend off as a nice break

That's good! The hard work is definitely appreciated; can't wait to see the final mockups!

Quick question, though—
I notice that in the last mockup, there are one meta and one super. Is there any chance that there could be a second super, so that both Winkeys could become super, and the context menu becomes meta? (Provided, of course, that I'm not the only one interested in such minutia).

If not (and perhaps this is premature, but...) do people often end up with unneeded keys after these GBs? Depending on how much money I have after the run, I might be willing to pay to take an extra super or meta off of someone's hands....
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:32:29
Could you add a "hashbaz" modifier?  thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:35:41
Could you add a "hashbaz" modifier?  thanks.

This set will be a must buy if this is added!  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Hellmark on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:03:57
Wait, the alternates are tentatively back on?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: kektr0city on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:06:25
Registered interest for ErgoDox.  That makes 100% :).  Just wondering tho, would an ErgoDox kit be printed or blank?  Would it have a home bar on F / J keys?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 30 October 2013, 17:51:05
Man, took a week off the forum and come back to have missed this entire discussion.

I love the set, SA profile is great, but I have to ask. Any chance of this ending up SA PBT? We haven't had an SA profile PBT set yet, as far as I know, and I am thoroughly interested. Might bump up the price a bit, but it will set this SA set apart from my in-production GB, as well as Commando. Bring in some new people that have been avoiding the profile because of the material.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 30 October 2013, 17:54:23
I don't believe SP does double-shot PBT yet for full sets--only Vortex.  Otherwise, I think everyone would have loved to have it!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 October 2013, 20:03:38
Yeah I don't think there is such a thing as PBT SA profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 30 October 2013, 20:12:25
SP can produce DS ABS, PBT dyesub only in any profile.

So, they can't do double-shot SA PBT, they can do dyesub SA PBT.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 30 October 2013, 20:13:30
Dyesub wouldn't work for this set anyway with such dark mods.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:53:34
Good to know.

And now my search for PBT SA continues.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 02 November 2013, 22:37:16
 :)
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/02/us/solar-eclipse-sunday/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/131102161509-solar-eclipse-cnn-story-top.jpeg)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sun, 03 November 2013, 10:01:17
Just so everyone knows, Navy blue cables will be available with this groupbuy! They are Mini USB, 6 Ft long and will match the mods.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: HendyZone on Sun, 03 November 2013, 10:15:31
GB + Matching Cable is very nice :p
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 10:41:56
Just so everyone knows, Navy blue cables will be available with this groupbuy! They are Mini USB, 6 Ft long and will match the mods.

Ooohhh. Nice touch there. So I guess GB's nowadays would have matching cables alongside.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: catnipz0098 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 16:09:09
INTERESTED!!! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: elllit on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:30:10
+1 for the ErgoDox set.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: divito on Mon, 04 November 2013, 15:26:44
Only problem I see from the mock-ups is a lack of tilde key in the dark color.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:15:04
sorry for the lack of updates guys, ive been very sick, this is looking to launch on sunday unless something gets in the way
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:21:07
sorry for the lack of updates guys, ive been very sick, this is looking to launch on sunday unless something gets in the way

Wishing for your very speedy recovery!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:27:08
sorry for the lack of updates guys, ive been very sick, this is looking to launch on sunday unless something gets in the way

Wishing for your very speedy recovery!!!

thanks very much, i have the flu anyway but the last couple of days ive had stomach pains so bad just moving has been impossible, still sucks today but manageable
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:36:57
Hope you get well soon, I've been pretty stumped by RL problems/appointments myself.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: FreeCopy on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:20:36
I'll probably buy everything offered for this group buy but iso.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:23:05
we are getting there, we have decided to totally overhaul our gb site, it will be ready very soon and will launch with this buy and a very very special buy shortly after
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:36:39
we are getting there, we have decided to totally overhaul our gb site, it will be ready very soon and will launch with this buy and a very very special buy shortly after

Hmmmm very intriguing, as usual.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:40:58
I just can't get over coloring shift/enter/backspace but NOT the mods.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:47:47
They frame the board in gray font, like the top function row, and also all the blue caps on the tenkey cluster.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: HendyZone on Sun, 10 November 2013, 20:09:13
we are getting there, we have decided to totally overhaul our gb site, it will be ready very soon and will launch with this buy and a very very special buy shortly after

 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Benoît B. Mandelbrot on Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:36:46
we are getting there, we have decided to totally overhaul our gb site, it will be ready very soon and will launch with this buy and a very very special buy shortly after

With a tease like that I have to know, will the "very very special buy" be another full set?  Is there a risk that I will regret jumping on the Penumbra group buy when you announce the next one?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: damzie on Wed, 13 November 2013, 15:35:57
meant to be interested in keycap but submit ergo box accidentally sorry!!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AuRinBei on Thu, 14 November 2013, 11:05:02
I am definitely interested in this. Probably the coolest looking color set I have ever seen. One thing I would want though is a red letter escape key in row 2.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:14:09
Just get one from the Round 5 GB over on Deskthority.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AuRinBei on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:13:21
Just get one from the Round 5 GB over on Deskthority.
Those are all white letters.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:32:32
Since Bunny is running this GB, he will probably consider this if the set is very successful.

Edit: Depends of course on how many people want this. Personally, I'm not sure if it fits the rest of the colour scheme on the set.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:53:18
I don't see red on it, but I do see some magenta Alt, Ctrl, and Shift mod pack :D
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Fri, 15 November 2013, 18:15:28
Solarized looks like it'll be far more amazing on my keyboard than I ever thought it was in my terminal.

I'm interested but on the fence about ergodox since I'll already have Calm Depths and Dolch DSA options. On the other hand if it'll help everyone meet MOQ having a set to trade is always handy....
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Internetlad on Fri, 15 November 2013, 23:37:36
I didn't like this when I first saw it, but it's grown on me. I'm not sure what it's inspired by, but I could see this looking good if all the mods were the same colour, navy blue maybe. (minus maybe that crème colour for the bottom ones, that looks good)

If I have the liquid assets when the GB rolls around I'd be in, but with Xmas looming so close it would be touch and go for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 15 November 2013, 23:47:27
but I could see this looking good if all the mods were the same colour, navy blue maybe. (minus maybe that crème colour for the bottom ones, that looks good)

Kind of goes against the original theme of the set, the different legend colors represent the color palette in the Solarized vim theme.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sat, 16 November 2013, 01:02:26
Yeah the different colours on the mods is an odd quirk that will drive some people crazy. I like it.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 16 November 2013, 01:20:10
Yeah the different colours on the mods is an odd quirk that will drive some people crazy. I like it.

I wasn't on board at first but it has definitely grown on me!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 16 November 2013, 13:01:02
gonna pop this up soon, on a brand new site

gonna need a guinea pig, so if someone is planning on ordering, pm me in the next 30 mins or so to do the first order/test order, and ill give you a 10% discount on your order
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: HendyZone on Sat, 16 November 2013, 13:04:15
Pm'd Bunny :p
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 16 November 2013, 13:04:49
Woot!!!  So excited!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 16 November 2013, 15:36:20
gb is up here

http://ctrlaltgroupbuy.com/
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: kzhk on Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:43:43
So there is no ergodox kit ?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: elllit on Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:44:39
Got the whole shebang... you are making me poor... now I get it, why some people refer to this forum as the Wallethack O_o
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: AuRinBei on Mon, 18 November 2013, 09:42:42
Sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiit man, only 27 days left? I was hoping it wouldn't start so early. I guess I will have to start selling my blood again. I'm assuming the cable is braided. Also, what is happening with adding keys? I know you said somewhere that you wanted to decide on a set of fixed prices, and then just add in bonuses if enough people order. Is this still the case?
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 18 November 2013, 09:49:23
Sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiit man, only 27 days left? I was hoping it wouldn't start so early. I guess I will have to start selling my blood again. I'm assuming the cable is braided. Also, what is happening with adding keys? I know you said somewhere that you wanted to decide on a set of fixed prices, and then just add in bonuses if enough people order. Is this still the case?

its is, i have a post about what im adding in somewhere in the gb thread
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: ijprest on Mon, 18 November 2013, 12:31:00
Just a note about colors:

I did some Lab distance calculations (based on my sampled SP color values (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.msg1093720#msg1093720) and the original Solarized Lab values (http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized)), and here's what I found:
Anyway... not really suggesting anything be changed... just felt like crunching the numbers.  :)  The Solarized palette is pretty hard to match against SP colors, so the current selections are pretty good, all things considered.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Mon, 18 November 2013, 17:01:36
gonna pop this up soon, on a brand new site

gonna need a guinea pig, so if someone is planning on ordering, pm me in the next 30 mins or so to do the first order/test order, and ill give you a 10% discount on your order

damn, i just know it >.< always looking on post on GROUP BUY :)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 November 2013, 22:04:26
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51026.0

Group Buy is up.
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: jefferai on Thu, 21 November 2013, 22:19:14
(deleted; posted in the GB forum instead)
Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 17 April 2015, 14:28:50
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Title: Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
Post by: duckness on Fri, 17 April 2015, 21:56:45
Bamp bamp bamp. What are the chances of getting this going again?
99%
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51026.msg1685502#msg1685502