I've long come to realize that the the MOST IMPORTANT THING to keyboards is ERGONOMICS....... NOT switches....
I've long come to realize that the the MOST IMPORTANT THING to keyboards is ERGONOMICS....... NOT switches....
I've long come to realize that the the MOST IMPORTANT THING to keyboards is ERGONOMICS....... NOT switches....
It's a good thing I do the whole home-row hand placement. As a result, my hands have naturally found the most ergonomic hand placement. I've never experienced fatigue or pain due to keyboard use.
This seems like such an obvious mod, I can't believe nobody thought of it before now, including me. The Topre switch should be able to take any kind of stem.if they come out with something heavier, i might give them a try. i don't think that they would be too expensive originally coming from the China market.
35g is extremely light in Topre. 35g Topre switch has almost no tactile bump at all. If you like that, and you like Cherry double-shot keycaps, I guess this keyboard would be your ultimate keyboard.
Why is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
:)) CleverWhy is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
OK, just a guess.. But it could be that it's the same silicone rubber supplier that supplies MANY different end products... And the factory in question mostly supplies makers of adult male masturbatory aids... and so.. their product is primarily Pink, and that's their cheapest most abundant supply..
So.. the keyboard people goes and asks the supplier for cheap material, and they're like.. whateves,, it's going under the keyboard anyway.. I don't care if it's pink...
And there you have it...
makers of adult male masturbatory aids...
makers of adult male masturbatory aids...
I think this is a subject we can all agree, that tp4 is the foremost expert on.
Why is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
OK, just a guess.. But it could be that it's the same silicone rubber supplier that supplies MANY different end products... And the factory in question mostly supplies makers of adult male masturbatory aids... and so.. their product is primarily Pink, and that's their cheapest most abundant supply..
So.. the keyboard people goes and asks the supplier for cheap material, and they're like.. whateves,, it's going under the keyboard anyway.. I don't care if it's pink...
And there you have it...
Why is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
OK, just a guess.. But it could be that it's the same silicone rubber supplier that supplies MANY different end products... And the factory in question mostly supplies makers of adult male masturbatory aids... and so.. their product is primarily Pink, and that's their cheapest most abundant supply..
So.. the keyboard people goes and asks the supplier for cheap material, and they're like.. whateves,, it's going under the keyboard anyway.. I don't care if it's pink...
And there you have it...
In all seriousness, though... this is a great idea. As long as the caps can depress without any interference. It would be a lot of work replacing all the stems in a Realforce, just because of the massive amount of labor involved.yeah. and also the plastic quality of the stem itself. wouldn't want them to be easily broken like some on those immitation cherry stems.
But if you get to use all of your MX cap sets, I would say it just might be worth it.
Why is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
OK, just a guess.. But it could be that it's the same silicone rubber supplier that supplies MANY different end products... And the factory in question mostly supplies makers of adult male masturbatory aids... and so.. their product is primarily Pink, and that's their cheapest most abundant supply..
So.. the keyboard people goes and asks the supplier for cheap material, and they're like.. whateves,, it's going under the keyboard anyway.. I don't care if it's pink...
And there you have it...
Can't tell if I should say 'what is this I don't even' or laugh hard.
Probably a bit of both.
Why is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
OK, just a guess.. But it could be that it's the same silicone rubber supplier that supplies MANY different end products... And the factory in question mostly supplies makers of adult male masturbatory aids... and so.. their product is primarily Pink, and that's their cheapest most abundant supply..
So.. the keyboard people goes and asks the supplier for cheap material, and they're like.. whateves,, it's going under the keyboard anyway.. I don't care if it's pink...
And there you have it...
Can't tell if I should say 'what is this I don't even' or laugh hard.
Probably a bit of both.
Guys seriously Where Else have you seen "pink" silicone rubber material...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/efb50fe2.gif)
Why is the cup rubber pink someone pls explain
OK, just a guess.. But it could be that it's the same silicone rubber supplier that supplies MANY different end products... And the factory in question mostly supplies makers of adult male masturbatory aids... and so.. their product is primarily Pink, and that's their cheapest most abundant supply..
So.. the keyboard people goes and asks the supplier for cheap material, and they're like.. whateves,, it's going under the keyboard anyway.. I don't care if it's pink...
And there you have it...
Can't tell if I should say 'what is this I don't even' or laugh hard.
Probably a bit of both.
Guys seriously Where Else have you seen "pink" silicone rubber material...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/efb50fe2.gif)
Erasers.
I see several potential problems with these custom stems:
* Topre stems are made with high tolerances + lube. The high quality of the stems is part of the Topre's appeal.
* Topre keycaps are textured PBT. The high quality of the keycaps is part of Topre's appeal.
* The stems of wide Topre keys have stabilisers on the bottom, inside the key switch. These sizes would also have to be replicated for a full keyboard. It does not do to just replicate the stems for 1u keys.
I see several potential problems with these custom stems:
* Topre stems are made with high tolerances + lube. The high quality of the stems is part of the Topre's appeal.
* Topre keycaps are textured PBT. The high quality of the keycaps is part of Topre's appeal.
* The stems of wide Topre keys have stabilisers on the bottom, inside the key switch. These sizes would also have to be replicated for a full keyboard. It does not do to just replicate the stems for 1u keys.
I wonder if this has anything to do with China assembling boards (Leopold FC600C & Type HEAVEN) for Topre these days? :)
^^^ This is insane fanboism....Are you accusing me of being a Topre fanboy? ... You don't know me very well.
^^^ This is insane fanboism....Are you accusing me of being a Topre fanboy? ... You don't know me very well.
Lack of wiggle? I'm wiggling my HHKB caps right now, and they're definitely wiggling.
I just want to see a self contained cherry-pinout compatible Topre switch. Is that too much to ask?
Want to make a Topre Ergodox?? That would be quite nice!
I see several potential problems with these custom stems:1. You can lube Cherry stems, and they are about the same "quality"
* Topre stems are made with high tolerances + lube. The high quality of the stems is part of the Topre's appeal.
* Topre keycaps are textured PBT. The high quality of the keycaps is part of Topre's appeal.
* The stems of wide Topre keys have stabilisers on the bottom, inside the key switch. These sizes would also have to be replicated for a full keyboard. It does not do to just replicate the stems for 1u keys.
* Topre keycaps are textured PBT. The high quality of the keycaps is part of Topre's appeal.Spacebar.
* Topre keycaps are textured PBT. The high quality of the keycaps is part of Topre's appeal.Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
Also, those domes don't look as high quality as a realforce.
Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
This would require either creating a new Cherry PBT spacebar that has the same stabilizer support as Topre or changing the board somehow to accept Cherry stabilizers.
IMO, we'd be better served pooling money together to have SP build us a PBT Topre spacebar mold and starting shooting.
He doesn't need to know you well to judge you by how you act, and it did seem pretty fanboyish.Really? :confused: I was trying to be objective. If I was a fanboy, I would have claimed Topre's properties to be superior instead of saying that they "have appeal".
1. You can lube Cherry stems, and they are about the same "quality"Besides smoothness, I was referring to lack of wiggle. :)
2. You have a much wider variety of keycaps and keycaps of equal or greater "quality" with cherry style stemsNot really. Only if you want a key set in US-ANSI for a Filco/Das/Ducky/QFR are there many new and exciting sets.
Valid point on space bar. However, Topre Realforce and HHKB have 6u Space bars.* Topre keycaps are textured PBT. The high quality of the keycaps is part of Topre's appeal.Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
He doesn't need to know you well to judge you by how you act, and it did seem pretty fanboyish.Really? :confused: I was trying to be objective. If I was a fanboy, I would have claimed Topre's properties to be superior instead of saying that they "have appeal".1. You can lube Cherry stems, and they are about the same "quality"Besides smoothness, I was referring to lack of wiggle. :)2. You have a much wider variety of keycaps and keycaps of equal or greater "quality" with cherry style stemsNot really. Only if you want a key set in US-ANSI for a Filco/Das/Ducky/QFR are there many new and exciting sets.
Far from all sets include the 1.5u and 1u modifiers that a Topre Realforce or HHKB has.
Cherry MX-compatible keycaps of dye-sub PBT were very rare until quite recently (very expensive vintage G80-xxx Sxx keyboards).
My one Topre keyboard (that I don't use very much because I prefer Cherry MX) is in Swedish layout, but it is practically impossible to find dye-sub PBT keys for Cherry MX in Swedish layout. It took me three years before I found a set of lasered PBT keys for Swedish, and then that set was still incomplete.
Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
This would require either creating a new Cherry PBT spacebar that has the same stabilizer support as Topre or changing the board somehow to accept Cherry stabilizers.
IMO, we'd be better served pooling money together to have SP build us a PBT Topre spacebar mold and starting shooting.
I don't think this is necessary.....
The new wave of topre-esque boards are incoming... you can bet they'll probably have costar stabilizers :D
Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
This would require either creating a new Cherry PBT spacebar that has the same stabilizer support as Topre or changing the board somehow to accept Cherry stabilizers.
IMO, we'd be better served pooling money together to have SP build us a PBT Topre spacebar mold and starting shooting.
I don't think this is necessary.....
The new wave of topre-esque boards are incoming... you can bet they'll probably have costar stabilizers :D
Even then, the problem comes down to this: size and availability. There aren't many Cherry PBT spacebars to begin with, let alone those in 6x.
Even then, the problem comes down to this: size and availability. There aren't many Cherry PBT spacebars to begin with, let alone those in 6x.
say wha.... there are plenty of pbt space bars..... i can go buy one right now...
We're talking about Cherry PBT spacebars. Where are these PBT spacebars you speak of, tp4?
Spacebar.
I should think that adding compatibility for cherry spacebars should be a priority, as PBT spacebars are easy to come by.
This would require either creating a new Cherry PBT spacebar that has the same stabilizer support as Topre or changing the board somehow to accept Cherry stabilizers.
IMO, we'd be better served pooling money together to have SP build us a PBT Topre spacebar mold and starting shooting.
IMO, we'd be better served pooling money together to have SP build us a PBT Topre spacebar mold and starting shooting.SP won't even do PBT spacebars for cherry MX, I doubt they'll be interested in spacebars for topre.
What's the cost of a new mold? Huge probably, but could we attain it through a gb?At least $3,000.
IMO, we'd be better served pooling money together to have SP build us a PBT Topre spacebar mold and starting shooting.SP won't even do PBT spacebars for cherry MX, I doubt they'll be interested in spacebars for topre.
I think if you put smaller modifiers on it, and had a bit of a gap on one side, you could probably put a 6.25x spacebar on there, but it's not the optimal solution at all. I mean, i'd be fine with it for a PBT or metal spacebar, but I feel like most topre users want better quality (or at least a better-integrated solution) than that.What's the cost of a new mold? Huge probably, but could we attain it through a gb?At least $3,000.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQyNDQ3NjM2.html
03:10 - Removes keycap
05:25 - Bag of spares showing sliders and housings of various colour etc
11:06 - Closeup from under the housing
11:21 - Closeup of slider and looks like silencing washer/band at the base of the slider
12:30 - Closeup of housing with slider
14:30 - Under the board
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQyNDQ3NjM2.html
03:10 - Removes keycap
05:25 - Bag of spares showing sliders and housings of various colour etc
11:06 - Closeup from under the housing
11:21 - Closeup of slider and looks like silencing washer/band at the base of the slider
12:30 - Closeup of housing with slider
14:30 - Under the board
Those are the fake topre switches that were posted a while ago.
Those are the fake topre switches that were posted a while ago.
Could be good for harvesting though!
Those are the fake topre switches that were posted a while ago.
Could be good for harvesting though!
On my phone atm ...but seems like these had an issue that wouldn't allow that...but I don't remember what.
Those are the fake topre switches that were posted a while ago.This.
Those are the fake topre switches that were posted a while ago.This.
Noppoo capacitive (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Noppoo_capacitive) switches have been mentioned in literature for a while. This appears to be an upgraded or slightly modified version of that.
Those are the fake topre switches that were posted a while ago.This.
Noppoo capacitive (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Noppoo_capacitive) switches have been mentioned in literature for a while. This appears to be an upgraded or slightly modified version of that.
These old white slider switches aren't capacitive. I'll confirm it tonight and update the wiki. Im pretty sure they are conductive.