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Title: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2013, 22:12:06
Got a level up just now..

First Mosquito double kill.. 2 handed.. single-clap-technique.. mid air.. from standing(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/016.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 27 October 2013, 22:17:42
Cool story bro... tell it again.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: JPG on Sun, 27 October 2013, 22:37:25
I bet many will claim vengeance during the night :p
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 02:35:39
I bet many will claim vengeance during the night :p

mosquito in the house is rare.. left the screen door open when cleaning the vaccum cleaner.. (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NHg596PadMo/TdU2-EioWpI/AAAAAAAADjM/wCWUy4zS9HQ/s1600/tuzki69.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 03:53:49
I bet many will claim vengeance during the night :p

mosquito in the house is rare.. left the screen door open when cleaning the vaccum cleaner..
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NHg596PadMo/TdU2-EioWpI/AAAAAAAADjM/wCWUy4zS9HQ/s1600/tuzki69.gif)

That's smart, leaving the vacuum on to suck up the little buggers  ;)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Mon, 28 October 2013, 03:58:20
http://www.raidkillsbugs.com/
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 October 2013, 04:45:47
Many's the night I was up late seeking terrible vengeance on those miserable little insects.

Frequent were the little blood stains across the walls and ceilings.

My blood, I have to admit.

But you get the picture.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 04:54:36
Many's the night I was up late seeking terrible vengeance on those miserable little insects.

Frequent were the little blood stains across the walls and ceilings.

My blood, I have to admit.

But you get the picture.
Mosquitos have a really annoying habit of flying right by your ear. I wouldn't mind them biting me if only they didn't wake me up with that terrible sound.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 October 2013, 05:02:50
Many's the night I was up late seeking terrible vengeance on those miserable little insects.

Frequent were the little blood stains across the walls and ceilings.

My blood, I have to admit.

But you get the picture.
Mosquitos have a really annoying habit of flying right by your ear. I wouldn't mind them biting me if only they didn't wake me up with that terrible sound.

You hear that, and are suddenly jolted awake.

Your hand juts out and jabs at the light switch.

Blinding light floods the room, banishing any thought of sleep as you screw up your eyes and try to see a tiny black dot moving near your pillow.

Second pass, and nothing.

The seconds stretch into minutes, and still nothing.

Your eyes become used to the light, and you start to move your gaze upwards.

Suddenly you see a small speck on the wall, up near the ceiling, on the other side of the room.

While you are squinting your eyes and planning the best approach across the detritus that accumulates on the bedroom floor, you hear that bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz in your other ear.

Damn!  The little bugger must have crept up behind you!

Swinging around, you glare at the wall, the floor, the ceiling, anywhere, your eyes darting frantically around the room.

Without pausing your frantic eye moments, your hand reaches for the can of fly spray that you know is there.

Still nothing.

A yawn struggles to escape, and a quick sideways flick of the eyes towards the clock radio makes you realise that you could still get a couple of hours sleep until it is time to start your day's activities.

Keep searching and squish, or spray?

It is too early in the morning to make decisions like that.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 05:11:20
Many's the night I was up late seeking terrible vengeance on those miserable little insects.

Frequent were the little blood stains across the walls and ceilings.

My blood, I have to admit.

But you get the picture.
Mosquitos have a really annoying habit of flying right by your ear. I wouldn't mind them biting me if only they didn't wake me up with that terrible sound.

You hear that, and are suddenly jolted awake.

Your hand juts out and jabs at the light switch.

Blinding light floods the room, banishing any thought of sleep as you screw up your eyes and try to see a tiny black dot moving near your pillow.

Second pass, and nothing.

The seconds stretch into minutes, and still nothing.

Your eyes become used to the light, and you start to move your gaze upwards.

Suddenly you see a small speck on the wall, up near the ceiling, on the other side of the room.

While you are squinting your eyes and planning the best approach across the detritus that accumulates on the bedroom floor, you hear that bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz in your other ear.

Damn!  The little bugger must have crept up behind you!

Swinging around, you glare at the wall, the floor, the ceiling, anywhere, your eyes darting frantically around the room.

Without pausing your frantic eye moments, your hand reaches for the can of fly spray that you know is there.

Still nothing.

A yawn struggles to escape, and a quick sideways flick of the eyes towards the clock radio makes you realise that you could still get a couple of hours sleep until it is time to start your day's activities.

Keep searching and squish, or spray?

It is too early in the morning to make decisions like that.

then right as you try to get back to sleep... zzzzzz....zzzzzzzzz...   game on *****... game on...(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/91eea40f.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Mon, 28 October 2013, 06:06:45
i came through all stages of the mosquito war: bare hands, flappers, vacuum cleaners... after living for a while in an apartment with 4.5m high ceiling and year round supply of mosquitoes, i switched from mechanical anti-mosquito weapons to foggers. and raid's indoor fogger did the job well: mosquitoes tend to slow down in the air, making mournful sound, and then fall down and die.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 28 October 2013, 06:50:37
Mosquitos have a really annoying habit of flying right by your ear. I wouldn't mind them biting me if only they didn't wake me up with that terrible sound.

They are attracted to your breath due to the minute amount of CO2 that's expelled.  Million years of natural engineering, they've been around since the dinosaurs and I bet they'll still be here long after we annihilated ourselves.

I have an industrial mozzie zapper (like at work) that kills them off.  Plus I live up in the hills far away from any bodies of water.  It's pretty dry here hence little chance of being disturbed and/or bitten.  I try to stay away from any chemical cocktails designed to kill them because it it kills them imagine what it can do to you over several years of use?

The bedroom needs to be clean and free from any contaminants and poisons so that you get a decent night's sleep.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 October 2013, 07:03:01
I need something to get rid of black flies....
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 28 October 2013, 07:28:56
Mosquitos have a really annoying habit of flying right by your ear. I wouldn't mind them biting me if only they didn't wake me up with that terrible sound.

This.

A clothes-pin-rubber-band gun is an excellent weapon against insects.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 28 October 2013, 07:29:11
My favourite is the single-handed "grab-em-out-the-air-and-squish-em-in-one-movement" technique. Got quite proficient with both hands, although I'm still faster with my right. If I'm feeling patient I let them land on me and then squish. I don't mind them biting (with one exception), just hate the noise.

The exception is that they seem to think my nostrils are the be all and end all of fine dining spots, so they try to fly up them every chance they get.... Inside my ears are a 2nd favourite of theirs. This is how my hatred for them began.

Good job on the two-in-one! You will soon be a master, grasshopper. But first try chopsticks.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 07:42:23
I need something to get rid of black flies....
I had an infestation once when I didn't wash my dishes for a month (disgusting, I know..) and what I found works is a pair of flip flops and do a clapping motion with it.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 07:45:38
Dude the worst is when one flies past your ear and in your sleep addled state, you muster all the force in the universe and smash down with the force of a thousand suns....

...into your own face. GG
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 October 2013, 08:02:47
I need something to get rid of black flies....
I had an infestation once when I didn't wash my dishes for a month (disgusting, I know..) and what I found works is a pair of flip flops and do a clapping motion with it.

This would be a win, win.....kill the flies and get fly guts all over the wife's flip flops!! thanks for the idea!!
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: JPG on Mon, 28 October 2013, 08:18:15
You need to step up your game and get the bug-a-salt

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Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Mon, 28 October 2013, 08:35:13
the essential killing machine
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Fly_Gun.JPG)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 08:39:36
I need something to get rid of black flies....
I had an infestation once when I didn't wash my dishes for a month (disgusting, I know..) and what I found works is a pair of flip flops and do a clapping motion with it.

This would be a win, win.....kill the flies and get fly guts all over the wife's flip flops!! thanks for the idea!!
Happy hunting ;)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:58:07
My favourite is the single-handed "grab-em-out-the-air-and-squish-em-in-one-movement" technique. Got quite proficient with both hands, although I'm still faster with my right. If I'm feeling patient I let them land on me and then squish. I don't mind them biting (with one exception), just hate the noise.

The exception is that they seem to think my nostrils are the be all and end all of fine dining spots, so they try to fly up them every chance they get.... Inside my ears are a 2nd favourite of theirs. This is how my hatred for them began.

Good job on the two-in-one! You will soon be a master, grasshopper. But first try chopsticks.

Every asian on the planet has tried this... I really really doubt anyone was able to pull it off (purposefully).

It's like every kid trying to hadoken, or kamehameha..(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:17:16
My favourite is the single-handed "grab-em-out-the-air-and-squish-em-in-one-movement" technique. Got quite proficient with both hands, although I'm still faster with my right. If I'm feeling patient I let them land on me and then squish. I don't mind them biting (with one exception), just hate the noise.

The exception is that they seem to think my nostrils are the be all and end all of fine dining spots, so they try to fly up them every chance they get.... Inside my ears are a 2nd favourite of theirs. This is how my hatred for them began.

Good job on the two-in-one! You will soon be a master, grasshopper. But first try chopsticks.

Every asian on the planet has tried this... I really really doubt anyone was able to pull it off (purposefully).

It's like every kid trying to hadoken, or kamehameha..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)

No man...my parents made me train like that when I was a kid, but not with mosquitos, just with moths which they attracted with a candle.  I only ever caught one.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:38:34
One exercise on your path to perfection:

1. Grab a chopstick
2. Strike a flyby mosquito's head
3. Repeat until it is unconscious
4. ..............
5. Profit!!!!!!11111
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 15:09:43
My favourite is the single-handed "grab-em-out-the-air-and-squish-em-in-one-movement" technique. Got quite proficient with both hands, although I'm still faster with my right. If I'm feeling patient I let them land on me and then squish. I don't mind them biting (with one exception), just hate the noise.

The exception is that they seem to think my nostrils are the be all and end all of fine dining spots, so they try to fly up them every chance they get.... Inside my ears are a 2nd favourite of theirs. This is how my hatred for them began.

Good job on the two-in-one! You will soon be a master, grasshopper. But first try chopsticks.

Every asian on the planet has tried this... I really really doubt anyone was able to pull it off (purposefully).

It's like every kid trying to hadoken, or kamehameha..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)

No man...my parents made me train like that when I was a kid, but not with mosquitos, just with moths which they attracted with a candle.  I only ever caught one.

moth makes sense... they're 1000s of times bigger.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 28 October 2013, 15:54:03
Got a level up just now..

First Mosquito double kill.. 2 handed.. single-clap-technique.. mid air.. from standing
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/016.gif)


As a Floridian....I am impressed.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: goobus on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:50:03
My favourite is the single-handed "grab-em-out-the-air-and-squish-em-in-one-movement" technique. Got quite proficient with both hands, although I'm still faster with my right. If I'm feeling patient I let them land on me and then squish. I don't mind them biting (with one exception), just hate the noise.

The exception is that they seem to think my nostrils are the be all and end all of fine dining spots, so they try to fly up them every chance they get.... Inside my ears are a 2nd favourite of theirs. This is how my hatred for them began.

Good job on the two-in-one! You will soon be a master, grasshopper. But first try chopsticks.

Every asian on the planet has tried this... I really really doubt anyone was able to pull it off (purposefully).

It's like every kid trying to hadoken, or kamehameha..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)

No man...my parents made me train like that when I was a kid, but not with mosquitos, just with moths which they attracted with a candle.  I only ever caught one.

moth makes sense... they're 1000s of times bigger.
Actually I'm just kidding. My parents were crazy but unfortunately no Kung fu training
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 21:34:44
My favourite is the single-handed "grab-em-out-the-air-and-squish-em-in-one-movement" technique. Got quite proficient with both hands, although I'm still faster with my right. If I'm feeling patient I let them land on me and then squish. I don't mind them biting (with one exception), just hate the noise.

The exception is that they seem to think my nostrils are the be all and end all of fine dining spots, so they try to fly up them every chance they get.... Inside my ears are a 2nd favourite of theirs. This is how my hatred for them began.

Good job on the two-in-one! You will soon be a master, grasshopper. But first try chopsticks.

Every asian on the planet has tried this... I really really doubt anyone was able to pull it off (purposefully).

It's like every kid trying to hadoken, or kamehameha..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)

No man...my parents made me train like that when I was a kid, but not with mosquitos, just with moths which they attracted with a candle.  I only ever caught one.

moth makes sense... they're 1000s of times bigger.
Actually I'm just kidding. My parents were crazy but unfortunately no Kung fu training

First thing I do when I go SSJ... is kill all the mosquitoes.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/215ad82f.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Martyr on Mon, 28 October 2013, 22:31:10
That's what spidybros are for, let them eat all the annoying ****.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 28 October 2013, 22:58:24
Massdrop keeps having sales on that one salt gun, I've been really tempted but my room is like completely sterile of all insects ._.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 23:04:13
Massdrop keeps having sales on that one salt gun, I've been really tempted but my room is like completely sterile of all insects ._.

impossible...  for example when spiders are born. they're almost microscopic.  You eat several pounds of bugs a year, and you don't even know it..
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 28 October 2013, 23:07:38
It snowed about an inch here today, no mosquitoes for me.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2013, 23:10:55
It snowed about an inch here today, no mosquitoes for me.

it's still possible there's a small pool of water some where in your house.. and a mosquito laid its egg some where near by.. and that egg rolls into the small pool of water or the water rolled onto the egg.. and BOOM....  u got a mosquito..bbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_0kick.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 October 2013, 00:01:58
Massdrop keeps having sales on that one salt gun, I've been really tempted but my room is like completely sterile of all insects ._.

impossible...  for example when spiders are born. they're almost microscopic.  You eat several pounds of bugs a year, and you don't even know it..

Baby huntsmen spiders are about 4mm from leg tip to leg tip.

This one time we had an egg sack hatch in the bathroom and there were about 100 baby spiders (yes, I counted them, after spraying them - didn't want 100 huntsmen in the house).
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 29 October 2013, 00:08:26
Massdrop keeps having sales on that one salt gun, I've been really tempted but my room is like completely sterile of all insects ._.

impossible...  for example when spiders are born. they're almost microscopic.  You eat several pounds of bugs a year, and you don't even know it..

Baby huntsmen spiders are about 4mm from leg tip to leg tip.

This one time we had an egg sack hatch in the bathroom and there were about 100 baby spiders (yes, I counted them, after spraying them - didn't want 100 huntsmen in the house).

Location: Australia

Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 October 2013, 00:30:59
Massdrop keeps having sales on that one salt gun, I've been really tempted but my room is like completely sterile of all insects ._.

impossible...  for example when spiders are born. they're almost microscopic.  You eat several pounds of bugs a year, and you don't even know it..

Baby huntsmen spiders are about 4mm from leg tip to leg tip.

This one time we had an egg sack hatch in the bathroom and there were about 100 baby spiders (yes, I counted them, after spraying them - didn't want 100 huntsmen in the house).

Location: Australia



Yeah.

The biggest one I have seen was about 20cm from leg tip to leg tip.

Big bastards, some of them.

Personally I'd prefer the mosquitos.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 29 October 2013, 01:20:11
Back to me my blood
I think lost Blood 1.5L over while last 40years.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 October 2013, 01:43:13
iri not emigrating to 'straya
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 29 October 2013, 01:52:52
Back to me my blood
I think lost Blood 1.5L over while last 40years.

it's amazing that we got 5 liters of blood.. and you can lose like 2 liters and be ok... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/cfed93e2.gif)
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 October 2013, 04:06:45
Yeah.

The biggest one I have seen was about 20cm from leg tip to leg tip.

Big bastards, some of them.

Personally I'd prefer the mosquitos.

The old Huntsmen are fantastic.  There's a Grandaddy (or Momma) downstairs in the basement at my place and it always climbs the wall and picks up it's two front legs to point at me ( I have huge hands and this spider is bigger than my hand easily).  It's like "hey you, what the hell do you want here" I just love that attitude.  They really aren't scared of anything including the Staffy that absolutely refuses to go down in the cellar once it came across that spider from hell  ;D .

I've got great respect for them because they eat out all the cockroaches, earwigs, moths and centipedes that use to reside there.  In fact since he/she moved in there I can't find a single insect crawling around anymore.  That is why this spider stays rent free at my place  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 October 2013, 04:10:24
what if it fell on you sleeping?
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 October 2013, 04:49:10
what if it fell on you sleeping?

Uh don't remind me!

There was a movie something a couple of decades ago that showed a woman lying down, and a spider fell off the ceiling right into her mouth.  I STILL check the ceilings when I walk into a room.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 October 2013, 04:57:14
do you also check your floor for dugites and your garden for taipans?
australia scares the **** out of me.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 October 2013, 05:24:24
what if it fell on you sleeping?

The Biggie as I call him/her stays in the basement because it's got food there.  Hence it'll stay there until it eats everything in site.  I have never been scared of them because I kept them as pets when I was younger living up near Newman.

They were always easier to keep than any cat or dog and all they needed was the odd cockie or moth every other week or so.

Once one did fall on my head when I was about 12 and it was in shock as it scurried around trying to look for a way to jump off.  Just never panic when it lands on you because it senses your fear and will bite if threatened in any way.  They avoid people in general and you can never get bitten unless you provoke it.  So don't.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 October 2013, 05:29:46
Just never panic when it lands on you because it senses your fear and will bite if threatened in any way. 
so i should wait politely until it goes off through my face?
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 October 2013, 05:42:10
do you also check your floor for dugites and your garden for taipans?
australia scares the **** out of me.

I've already been bitten twice by a Bard!ck (for real) and a Western Brown snake.  They only knew what it was once they swabbed the bitten area to find out what got me.

Both times the bastards bit me on the calf of my right leg.  Not at the same time though.  I got bitten the first time at the workshop in 2008 when I was walking through lots of Caterpillar Gaskets and Belts and felt something sharp on the back of my right calf muscle.  I just thought it was the gasket coverings which are sharp but when I walked out into the daylight area my workmate said there's some blood on the back of my leg.  I looked at it and sure enough 2 red blood holes seaping away.  Instantly was shipped out to Royal Perth via the Flying doctors.

I can tell you one thing for sure the heart was pumping hard and the head feels like it wants to explode.  You basically feel like you've downed 4 gallons of vodka and everything hurts from the waist down.

The second bite which was in 2011 by a Western Brown which was under my desk in my office at around 3AM in the morning.  I was stupid because I normally look under the desk to see if anything was curled up ready to strike but when you're tired you forget.  Anyway after the bite I woke up real fast and got another free flight to Royal Perth again.  This bastard really made a mess of my right calf because around the bite everything started to clog and turn purple fast.  I was lucky to save my leg that night because people can lose a limb when these critters bite you.

I think I'm the only one working at my company that's been bitten this much and survived.  The funny thing also is that the doctors told me I'm now more resistant to snake bites and should work in the snake milking section, at the Reptile Park.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Tym on Tue, 29 October 2013, 05:52:27
In the bedroom, there is the ancient lampshade, been there for millions of years. Anyway, the fliies like to smash their heads into it, even if all the windows are close, all you hear is;
thud, thwack, thud, thud, thud, thwack.

Soooo annoying.

So i just shake it until their brains are outside their bodies, then scoop the leftovers off the carpet.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 October 2013, 05:52:54
Just never panic when it lands on you because it senses your fear and will bite if threatened in any way. 
so i should wait politely until it goes off through my face?

If he's actually on your face just blow through your mouth, the air will scare him away because he knows that something is under his body/legs.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 October 2013, 06:02:58
okay, a correction: iri not coming to 'straya. ever.
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 October 2013, 06:07:20
okay, a correction: iri not coming to 'straya. ever.

It's a great place.  Also remember here all medical care is free (if you're a citizen).  Hence don't worry about anything because you're covered by our national health scheme which nearly every country has now.

So don't be afraid because they (snakes and spiders) will never intentionally harm you unless your stupid, which I'm one of those who are extremely dumb. By rights I should of died and get taken out of the gene pool.  Hence it helps to winnow out the less suitable in this world  ;) .
Title: Re: Mosquito Mastery
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 October 2013, 06:22:10
Q: What do zombies do?

Answer

So i just shake it until their brains are outside their bodies, then scoop the leftovers off the carpet.

^^ best thing I've read so far today!!