So I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
I interpret smooth as "not rough". Each keypress is silky smooth, with just a little resistance at the beginning of the keystroke, and silky smoothness all the way to the bottom.
This is based on HHKB Pro 2.
I also think it is high quality - well made, uniform throughout, light but stable on the desk, sturdy construction, PBT keycaps (except space).
It really depends on HOW smooth you're looking for..
Topre is only smoother relative to MX shaft when struck AT HARSH angles..
if you strike both key at centered angles.. neither is smoother than the other..
At very steep strike angles, the topre will be somewhat smoother due to the thicker round shaft..
But if you're looking for smooth as in metal-piston-smooth... that is not achievable on plastics because plastic will deform more readily with ambient temperature changes..
NOTE: this stock case is balls to the wall amazing; i didn't realize plastic could feel so sturdy.
using ergo 87u.
reds feel pretty damn smooth to me.
every alpha key using the correct finger feels smooth with the exception of a VERY small tactile bump on the middle/index keys. the bump is less than even that of a brown; so technically, I could just be hallucinating.
NOTE: this stock case is balls to the wall amazing; i didn't realize plastic could feel so sturdy.
So I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
So I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
When you say "not scratchy" I can only recall a thread of where someone that has compared a Topre board against Cherry MX board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50505.msg1102639#msg1102639). The feeling of jumping on trampoline vs I guess jumping on a corrugated iron with spring on the bottom is probably best described the differences between the two.
Of course to me having only played with Topre board I can only sense that it is smooth yet firm. It is really hard for me to describe but I am sure some people have also pointed out that MXs tend to wobble. Topre feels much sturdy.
Topre is only smoother relative to MX shaft when struck AT HARSH angles..I disagree with you. The difference is small, but it is there. You can notice it only if you press the key slowly.
Topre is only smoother relative to MX shaft when struck AT HARSH angles..I disagree with you. The difference is small, but it is there. You can notice it only if you press the key slowly.
Topres are lubed. I can definitely feel the difference between lubed vs. unlubed Cherry MX reds.
It's not " invented random boasts or make-believe or inconsequential....." its the Topre Voodoo!So I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
When you say "not scratchy" I can only recall a thread of where someone that has compared a Topre board against Cherry MX board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50505.msg1102639#msg1102639). The feeling of jumping on trampoline vs I guess jumping on a corrugated iron with spring on the bottom is probably best described the differences between the two.
Of course to me having only played with Topre board I can only sense that it is smooth yet firm. It is really hard for me to describe but I am sure some people have also pointed out that MXs tend to wobble. Topre feels much sturdy.
wobble is GOOD in general. this means there's less of a chance for friction because the stem can detach from the switch shaft..
Sturdiness in a switch and sturdiness in the plate and landing are two very different things...
And many Topre folks have invented random boasts for their purchase..
In truth, Topre's only advantage is in its more uniform keypress at extreme angles vs the MX.. All the other stuff is either make-believe or completely inconsequential....Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
It's not " invented random boasts or make-believe or inconsequential....." its the Topre Voodoo!So I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
When you say "not scratchy" I can only recall a thread of where someone that has compared a Topre board against Cherry MX board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50505.msg1102639#msg1102639). The feeling of jumping on trampoline vs I guess jumping on a corrugated iron with spring on the bottom is probably best described the differences between the two.
Of course to me having only played with Topre board I can only sense that it is smooth yet firm. It is really hard for me to describe but I am sure some people have also pointed out that MXs tend to wobble. Topre feels much sturdy.
wobble is GOOD in general. this means there's less of a chance for friction because the stem can detach from the switch shaft..
Sturdiness in a switch and sturdiness in the plate and landing are two very different things...
And many Topre folks have invented random boasts for their purchase..
In truth, Topre's only advantage is in its more uniform keypress at extreme angles vs the MX.. All the other stuff is either make-believe or completely inconsequential....Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
I don't think this is intended to lead novices astray but the Egdx universe may be too far-out for some. The current Massdrop Edox is $199 base kit + $45 for caps, and must be built some can do it others have find assy. services so in the long run a Topre Realforce or a HHKB are about the same price range. I agree Topre is not everyone's cup of tea but either is a Ergodox. Its all about personal preferences. Some must try a variety of switches- keyboards to find what their ideal one is, some may find it easy some may never find the ideal combination. But for me the Topre switch keyboards like Realforce and HHKB come the closest to it.It's not " invented random boasts or make-believe or inconsequential....." its the Topre Voodoo!So I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
When you say "not scratchy" I can only recall a thread of where someone that has compared a Topre board against Cherry MX board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50505.msg1102639#msg1102639). The feeling of jumping on trampoline vs I guess jumping on a corrugated iron with spring on the bottom is probably best described the differences between the two.
Of course to me having only played with Topre board I can only sense that it is smooth yet firm. It is really hard for me to describe but I am sure some people have also pointed out that MXs tend to wobble. Topre feels much sturdy.
wobble is GOOD in general. this means there's less of a chance for friction because the stem can detach from the switch shaft..
Sturdiness in a switch and sturdiness in the plate and landing are two very different things...
And many Topre folks have invented random boasts for their purchase..
In truth, Topre's only advantage is in its more uniform keypress at extreme angles vs the MX.. All the other stuff is either make-believe or completely inconsequential....Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
I don't claim that certain differences are not there.. but the act of which when people "FOCUS" on them is very much out of the necessity to justify their Luxury-Purchase..
And What I wouldn't want the novices joining GH to fall pray to is this mentality... They're being stifled by this group-think that's centered around spending money rather than IMPROVING KEYBOARDS...
This has been why I've stood so close to the Egdx universe... because it goes above and beyond throwing money at pretty pebbles..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/037.gif)
I don't think the feel of a topre board has ever been accurately explained by anyone, anywhere.
+1I don't this is intended to lead novices astray but the Egdx universe may be to far-out for some. The current Massdrop Edox is $199 base kit + $45 for caps, and must be built some can do it others have find assy. services so in the long run a Topre Realforce or a HHKB are about the same price range. I agree Topre is not everyone's cup of tea but either is a Ergodox. Its all about personal preferences. Some must try a variety of switches- keyboards to find what their ideal one is, some may find it easy some may never find the ideal combination. But for me the Topre switch keyboards like Realforce and HHKB come the closest to it.It's not " invented random boasts or make-believe or inconsequential....." its the Topre Voodoo!Show ImageSo I finally got my topre RF and it's not what I expected at all. I think I realized why though:
when people say topre is smooth, I've been interpreting is as high quality, as in, not scratchy like browns can be. Have people actually meant that it's actually smooth like a cherry red?
When you say "not scratchy" I can only recall a thread of where someone that has compared a Topre board against Cherry MX board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50505.msg1102639#msg1102639). The feeling of jumping on trampoline vs I guess jumping on a corrugated iron with spring on the bottom is probably best described the differences between the two.
Of course to me having only played with Topre board I can only sense that it is smooth yet firm. It is really hard for me to describe but I am sure some people have also pointed out that MXs tend to wobble. Topre feels much sturdy.
wobble is GOOD in general. this means there's less of a chance for friction because the stem can detach from the switch shaft..
Sturdiness in a switch and sturdiness in the plate and landing are two very different things...
And many Topre folks have invented random boasts for their purchase..
In truth, Topre's only advantage is in its more uniform keypress at extreme angles vs the MX.. All the other stuff is either make-believe or completely inconsequential....
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif) (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
I don't claim that certain differences are not there.. but the act of which when people "FOCUS" on them is very much out of the necessity to justify their Luxury-Purchase..
And What I wouldn't want the novices joining GH to fall pray to is this mentality... They're being stifled by this group-think that's centered around spending money rather than IMPROVING KEYBOARDS...
This has been why I've stood so close to the Egdx universe... because it goes above and beyond throwing money at pretty pebbles..
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/037.gif) (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/037.gif)
Though to each their own really, wobble might be good for some but what about in cases of where wobble might not be all that ideal? I mean there is yet another set of switches one has not contemplated about but I guess it might come close to Topre. Those hall effect switches. They are both expensive and linear and instead of having a spring underneath, supposedly they have a magnet. :p
As for sturdiness, I guess that can only come when one has both two different mountings of the same switch. I can totally see that they are different and they would feel different.
I wouldn't go far in declaring that Topre only has one distinct advantage, the way you phrased it makes it sound like as if a bad touch typist could be just as good as normal touch typist by randomly hitting keys on various angles and hoping that they would hit the right key rather than a switch that would punish you for hitting the wrong keys and as a result the wrong character gets printed on the screen.
For novices to be easily swayed by the opinions of others is well... :)) HHKB on one end of the scale is a factory made keyboard, like every other keyboard that one can buy off the shelf from a shop. Ergodox on the other hand is a kit. Comparing these is like comparing a pre-made car vs a kit car, they are two different sort of beasts aimed at two very different crowds. I wouldn't also go as far as declaring factory pre-made stuff lacks innovation either.
There are those whom appreciates customisation to the minute detail that for the best things are made by one's own hand, but just as well there are those whom appreciates pre-made stuff. Even though pre-made stuff can be costly it does not imply improving the said pre-made keyboard is not possible. Blokes like Hasu doesn't sit there and admire "gee what an expensive keyboard.." and then not do any customisation on top just because the said pre-made product doesn't fit their bill. Sure HHKB is undoubtably expensive (especially at this time of the year and especially for foreigners) but to think that one is not allowed to modify HHKB is a limitation bound to one's mind.
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.I don't think the feel of a topre board has ever been accurately explained by anyone, anywhere.
RIGHT so your the one that needs a detail description. Sorry buddy the English language can not full capture the Thorpie experience, just like the mechanism of procreation or owning and running a V8 Muscle car.
YOU need to do it yourself to see what it's really like. You can never know what it's like until you alone experience these wonders, so go and get a Thorpie and enjoy, if not sell it here in the Classifieds and move on.
Topre SmoothnessShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DVaJNGK.jpg)
Topre SmoothnessShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DVaJNGK.jpg)
haha cloud of :eek:
Topre SmoothnessShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DVaJNGK.jpg)
haha cloud of :eek:
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.I don't think the feel of a topre board has ever been accurately explained by anyone, anywhere.
RIGHT so your the one that needs a detail description. Sorry buddy the English language can not full capture the Thorpie experience, just like the mechanism of procreation or owning and running a V8 Muscle car.
YOU need to do it yourself to see what it's really like. You can never know what it's like until you alone experience these wonders, so go and get a Thorpie and enjoy, if not sell it here in the Classifieds and move on.
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.
I thought unimpressive would suffice.
how does the digilog case affect the feel of the switches? if at all.
how does the digilog case affect the feel of the switches? if at all.
It doesn't affect the actual feel. The audible perception changes, but in terms of what feedback your fingers are receiving, there is no difference.
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.
I thought unimpressive would suffice.
Sums up the majority of your posts, nicely.
Bro Caps thinks that it's still cool to make (not) subtle jabs at people a few months after he got his jimmies rustled?
It's okay, I can hear them from here.
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Topre SmoothnessShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DVaJNGK.jpg)
haha cloud of :eek:
Talking to yourself again?
I have a fc660c myself, that's what I'm sayin, no one adequately can describe with words the feel of a topre board.
I thought unimpressive would suffice.
Sums up the majority of your posts, nicely.
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
SUPER High Quality - Silicone Domes, to be more accurate ;D . Someone just referred to them like typing on a "Cloud of Boobs" ......too right :thumb: .
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
SUPER High Quality - Silicone Domes, to be more accurate ;D . Someone just referred to them like typing on a "Cloud of Boobs" ......too right :thumb: .
what? no.. the cloud of b00bz is mx-red linear switches..
Have you ever felt boobs? I mean, they're not really like mx-reds.. but they certainly DO NOT have a tactile bump at the top of actuation like topre..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/87a4e689.gif)
I don't claim that certain differences are not there.. but the act of which when people "FOCUS" on them is very much out of the necessity to justify their Luxury-Purchase..
And What I wouldn't want the novices joining GH to fall pray to is this mentality... They're being stifled by this group-think that's centered around spending money rather than IMPROVING KEYBOARDS...
This has been why I've stood so close to the Egdx universe... because it goes above and beyond throwing money at pretty pebbles..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/037.gif)
I don't claim that certain differences are not there.. but the act of which when people "FOCUS" on them is very much out of the necessity to justify their Luxury-Purchase..
And What I wouldn't want the novices joining GH to fall pray to is this mentality... They're being stifled by this group-think that's centered around spending money rather than IMPROVING KEYBOARDS...
This has been why I've stood so close to the Egdx universe... because it goes above and beyond throwing money at pretty pebbles..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/037.gif)
I'm with tp4issue here. I owned a HHKB and have used it daily at work for 2 weeks. It's a very expensive and luxury brand item and I find myself creating a lot of justification for my purchase but in truth, I love the keyboard but I don't understand what was so great about it. Aside from the sound, it feels a lot like MX Clear and Alps to me and the PBT caps are like my Poker 2 PBT caps in feel.
I can tell my friends that I love this keyboard but I will not be able to really tell them why. To do so would be to create an illusion as though I know exactly what makes this keyboard good, which is not true. The only discerning fact that I can say with conviction is the sound. I still don't get the feel. I would switch to another keyboard in an instance and not miss the HHKB. When I typed at the Matias and Code at home, I don't miss HHKB. Maybe I should use it for a another couple of months to see if it grows on me as some claimed it will be.
If HHKB weren't so expensive, I think all these 'boasts' (as tp4issue put it) would not be so prevalent.
No wonder I have the HHKB Pagan status - ha ha ..
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51413.0;attach=45743;image)
I don't claim that certain differences are not there.. but the act of which when people "FOCUS" on them is very much out of the necessity to justify their Luxury-Purchase..
And What I wouldn't want the novices joining GH to fall pray to is this mentality... They're being stifled by this group-think that's centered around spending money rather than IMPROVING KEYBOARDS...
This has been why I've stood so close to the Egdx universe... because it goes above and beyond throwing money at pretty pebbles..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/037.gif)
I'm with tp4issue here. I owned a HHKB and have used it daily at work for 2 weeks. It's a very expensive and luxury brand item and I find myself creating a lot of justification for my purchase but in truth, I love the keyboard but I don't understand what was so great about it. Aside from the sound, it feels a lot like MX Clear and Alps to me and the PBT caps are like my Poker 2 PBT caps in feel.
I can tell my friends that I love this keyboard but I will not be able to really tell them why. To do so would be to create an illusion as though I know exactly what makes this keyboard good, which is not true. The only discerning fact that I can say with conviction is the sound. I still don't get the feel. I would switch to another keyboard in an instance and not miss the HHKB. When I typed at the Matias and Code at home, I don't miss HHKB. Maybe I should use it for a another couple of months to see if it grows on me as some claimed it will be.
If HHKB weren't so expensive, I think all these 'boasts' (as tp4issue put it) would not be so prevalent.
No wonder I have the HHKB Pagan status - ha ha ..
Also, in my opinion, topres are terrible for gaming. I much prefer tactile mx switches, where one can really sense exactly where the switch is getting activated, for gaming. In addition to this, knowing that you're wearing out the rubber domes with all the key-mashing is kind of bothersome.
I'm not sure whether I'll eventually switch back to mx. I've been using topre since I bought my FC660C a few weeks ago. While I've certainly enjoyed the board, I've been slightly underwhelmed. The fanboys on here certainly can get you very excited :). That being said, if you're not satisfied with your mx board, topre is definitely an entirely different experience, and is totally worth checking out.
1pq, you mentioned about the Topre plastics - is it the key caps (PBT) instead of the rubber domes that making the difference to you?
I don't think the feel of a topre board has ever been accurately explained by anyone, anywhere.
I gotta learn how you guys put these low-cut emoticons so easily!
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
I gotta learn how you guys put these low-cut emoticons so easily!Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
Have you ever felt boobs? I mean, they're not really like mx-reds.. but they certainly DO NOT have a tactile bump at the top of actuation like topre..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/87a4e689.gif)
I gotta learn how you guys put these low-cut emoticons so easily!Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
Damn auto correct! I mean lol-cat
!!
Have you ever felt boobs? I mean, they're not really like mx-reds.. but they certainly DO NOT have a tactile bump at the top of actuation like topre..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/87a4e689.gif)
When you use the Thorpies, never squish the key down hard all the way. Why you may say, because you need to know how a woman wants/needs to be touched. Never go in hard with force, you caress her gently with repeated rhythm. That has always been the secret (if you could call it that) :thumb: .
It comes with knowing and years of practice before you accomplish the task of using a Thorpie correctly and getting a woman off in any given situation.
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.
Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS.I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.
Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS.I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.
Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS.I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.
Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
Yeah, this.
I tried using it under Windows, but failed, miserably.
On Mac - no worries!
NO one "Types" by pressing each switch down slowly..Not while typing perhaps, but when gaming or using cursor and nav keys many people press the keys slowly.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS.I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.High Quality rubber dome?
Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.
The Rubbermain logo on the other hands.... ???
Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.
Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
Yeah, this.
I tried using it under Windows, but failed, miserably.
On Mac - no worries!
It's all about the dip switches!
I agree with rowdy, I somehow find that I used less Fn keys in Mac, non existence actually... but arrow keys - I do use them in Mac too because of spreadsheet at work. So I missed that a lot. I am slowly adjusting.
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.
I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.
I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.
Ctrl and Backspace are easy to get used to, even when I switch between TKL and HHKB layout every day.
But when I go to do pipe on HHKB, invariably the first few times I hit Shift-backspace instead.
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.
I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.
Ctrl and Backspace are easy to get used to, even when I switch between TKL and HHKB layout every day.
But when I go to do pipe on HHKB, invariably the first few times I hit Shift-backspace instead.
Yep, definitely happens. Ctrl/capslock seems like a natural switch considering how little I use capslock.