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Title: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:47:13
Well so far i have a few options on what keyboard i should go with and here is what i have.


Ergodox With some aftermarket keycaps. Sadly i would have to wait another 1-2 months for another massdrop.

Filco Tenkeyless with the same as the poker 2.

Poker 2 with After market key caps and a aluminium case and plate.

HHKB pro 2/ Realforce 55g.

So this is what i can't make up my mind about. I haven't tried out any of the above and i really can't make up my mind.

I can't buy more than one of these options for right now and i just want to get a nice keyboard and use it.

I'm afraid of getting the ergodox with the limited keycap options and odd layout.

I just need some opinions so i can quit thinking about it and i can just go ahead and buy some things.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: BGD on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:54:37
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:56:29
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:57:49
Gotta say alu filco

It's just such an awesome sound
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: BGD on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:58:57
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.

If I could choose any of those, I'd definitely go with a HHKB (probably what a lot will tell you as well). :)
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:59:30
HHKB then Realforce 55 or  vice versa
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:59:57
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.

If I could choose any of those, I'd definitely go with a HHKB (probably what a lot will tell you as well). :)
That was my 1st option before, but Tp4 infected my mind with thoughts of the Ergodox.. And from there i went crazy.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:01:01
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.

If I could choose any of those, I'd definitely go with a HHKB (probably what a lot will tell you as well). :)
That was my 1st option before but Tp4 infected my mind with thoughts with the Ergodox.. And from there i went crazy.

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Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:07:37
if your hands hurt from typing, ergodox

otherwise do you want compact or no? if compact and you want mx, go for poker. if topre, hhkb. if you just put it on your desk and you have room mx go for filco(filco really good, esp with plate) and 55g realforce if you want topre
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:17:34
if your hands hurt from typing, ergodox

otherwise do you want compact or no? if compact and you want mx, go for poker. if topre, hhkb. if you just put it on your desk and you have room mx go for filco(filco really good, esp with plate) and 55g realforce if you want topre

^ Perfect explanation.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: nullstring on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:20:10
I would recommend you get a cheaper option like RK9000 or CM QFR.
When you have a better feel for what you want, you can purchase a more expensive option.
Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:25:09
I would recommend you get a cheaper option like RK9000 or CM QFR.
When you have a better feel for what you want, you can purchase a more expensive option.
Just my 2 cents.

I did that and I regretted getting a Rosewill 9000 so bad. It was nice! But just not even close to my HHKB. But it was worth the experience, I guess I wished I got a Poker X or II instead of that though.

But yeah my HHKB is way nicer.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:51:34
Technically....  You can get get 2x quickfires.. and it can be tweaked to mimic the Egdx.. but obviously it'll be a bit clunky.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: osi on Sun, 15 December 2013, 15:16:40
I would recommend you get a cheaper option like RK9000 or CM QFR.
When you have a better feel for what you want, you can purchase a more expensive option.
Just my 2 cents.

I second this route. You'll start out with multiple boards then could just sell or trade what you don't like.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 15 December 2013, 15:32:05
I would recommend you get a cheaper option like RK9000 or CM QFR.
When you have a better feel for what you want, you can purchase a more expensive option.
Just my 2 cents.

I second this route. You'll start out with multiple boards then could just sell or trade what you don't like.
Hmm, I could just go with the Poker 2 at first. Then Wait until the CM topre with Cherry mx switch comes out.
Then i could try that.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 15 December 2013, 15:40:03
SSK  :eek:
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 15:57:52
I would recommend you get a cheaper option like RK9000 or CM QFR.
When you have a better feel for what you want, you can purchase a more expensive option.
Just my 2 cents.

I second this route. You'll start out with multiple boards then could just sell or trade what you don't like.
Hmm, I could just go with the Poker 2 at first. Then Wait until the CM topre with Cherry mx switch comes out.
Then i could try that.

Yes get a Poker 2 if youre going MX.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 15 December 2013, 16:21:08
I would go Poker. I loved my Poker X until I replaced it with GH60. 60% MX is great.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 15 December 2013, 17:21:39
Is this your first board? go Filco

Are you a keyboard hipster who likes to live on the edge? go Ergodox

Do you have extra money you don't know what to do with? go HHKB

Will you be bringing your board with you places? go Poker(but not without buying her dinner first) or HHKB

Do you plan on doing some modding? go Filco or Poker

Do you game or code often and want a dedicated arrow cluster? go Filco

Small desk? go Poker or HHKB
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 15 December 2013, 17:27:02
Is this your first board? go Filco

Are you a keyboard hipster who likes to live on the edge? go Ergodox

Do you have extra money you don't know what to do with? go HHKB

Will you be bringing your board with you places? go Poker(but not without buying her dinner first) or HHKB

Do you plan on doing some modding? go Filco or Poker

Do you game or code often and want a dedicated arrow cluster? go Filco

Small desk? go Poker or HHKB

+1
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: ahmadmzak on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:08:53
You just have to decide if you want a 60% or TKL. Then I would say try both the topre and cherry mx to see yourself which you like more.

60% : HHKB and Poker 2

TKL : Filco and Realforce

I would say get the topre first since its more expensive and you have the money right now. Later you might feel like getting a new keyb but budget might be tight.

I currently own a Poker 2 only. I am getting HHKB Pro 2 very soon.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Tony on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:24:24
It is clear that you are already crazy; keyboards are only the closest culprit you have found to blame your craziness for.

You will buy all of them sooner or later, so any keyboard is good for a start. Save your indecision for another, more important occasion.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:30:40
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.

If I could choose any of those, I'd definitely go with a HHKB (probably what a lot will tell you as well). :)
That was my 1st option before, but Tp4 infected my mind with thoughts of the Ergodox.. And from there i went crazy.

oh lord.  Plz don't listen to tp4.  Just get the HHKB Pro 2.  You will be very happy.  And in 2-3 months, if you still have a hankering for the ergodox, you can get that too.  You still have to assemble the ergodox yourself, right?  So that could take you another month, if you're like me and don't get to things right away.  So just get a great keyboard right away.  You will be very happy with the HHKB Pro 2.  Just remember the layout is a bit different.   So you will have to adjust.  But if you have more than 65 IQ points, it's not too hard.   I have only 64, and I did it.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:47:51
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.

If I could choose any of those, I'd definitely go with a HHKB (probably what a lot will tell you as well). :)
That was my 1st option before, but Tp4 infected my mind with thoughts of the Ergodox.. And from there i went crazy.

oh lord.  Plz don't listen to tp4.  Just get the HHKB Pro 2.  You will be very happy.  And in 2-3 months, if you still have a hankering for the ergodox, you can get that too.  You still have to assemble the ergodox yourself, right?  So that could take you another month, if you're like me and don't get to things right away.  So just get a great keyboard right away.  You will be very happy with the HHKB Pro 2.  Just remember the layout is a bit different.   So you will have to adjust.  But if you have more than 65 IQ points, it's not too hard.   I have only 64, and I did it.

This is exactly the type of BS the topre fanbois love to post..

The only reasons that eth0s even posted this is because one, he's obsessed with h8n' on Tp4,

and 2, he wants you to buy a topre because HE HAS ONE.... you see, he doesn't have enough justification for it through himself, the keyboard does not speak for itself.. Therefore, he has to go on the internet, and find accomplices to affirm just how much "NOT A WASTE OF MONEY" the topre board really was...

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Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: C5Allroad on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:48:54
Get the HHKB. If you don't like sell it here on classifieds. I'm sure you will be able to sell it very quickly, if you're having doubts whether or not to buy the ergodox.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:51:40
Get the HHKB. If you don't like sell it here on classifieds. I'm sure you will be able to sell it very quickly, if you're having doubts whether or not to buy the ergodox.

Sure, if you don't like it, pass the problem onto someone else... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:55:36
Do you have a tight budget? Or can you basically get what you want?
I can get what i want but i can't get more than 1 keyboard at the moment.

If I could choose any of those, I'd definitely go with a HHKB (probably what a lot will tell you as well). :)
That was my 1st option before, but Tp4 infected my mind with thoughts of the Ergodox.. And from there i went crazy.

oh lord.  Plz don't listen to tp4.  Just get the HHKB Pro 2.  You will be very happy.  And in 2-3 months, if you still have a hankering for the ergodox, you can get that too.  You still have to assemble the ergodox yourself, right?  So that could take you another month, if you're like me and don't get to things right away.  So just get a great keyboard right away.  You will be very happy with the HHKB Pro 2.  Just remember the layout is a bit different.   So you will have to adjust.  But if you have more than 65 IQ points, it's not too hard.   I have only 64, and I did it.

This is exactly the type of BS the topre fanbois love to post..

The only reasons that eth0s even posted this is because one, he's obsessed with h8n' on Tp4,

and 2, he wants you to buy a topre because HE HAS ONE.... you see, he doesn't have enough justification for it through himself, the keyboard does not speak for itself.. Therefore, he has to go on the internet, and find accomplices to affirm just how much "NOT A WASTE OF MONEY" the topre board really was...

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Hmm, well I may not be a smart man, but I'm not afraid to waste money.  If I spend it, I don't regret it.  Life is too short. 

As to why I recommended a Topre, now, there is another possible explanation, which is that I really do like Topre, and the HHKB Pro 2, and that  they really are as great as I say they are.  I have four Topre keyboards, and I'm planning to buy another one soon.  And I don't really care if anybody else likes them or not.  It matters not a wit to me what the rest of the world does.  Go buy another ergodox, I could care less.  But if somebody asks for my advice, I give it:  buy a Topre keyboard, and be done with it. 
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: terran5992 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 22:31:14
Or you know spend all of your money on clacks
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Emospence on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:16:52
55g realforce. Yeah baybeh
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:33:37
Well I went with a HHKBP2. If I will not like switches (but will like the layout) I'll go for a Poker II. If I will not like the layout (but will love the switches) I'll probably go with a Realforce TKL + extra realforce numpad (so kb is left of mouse, numpad is right of mouse). If I will not like either the layout or switches I'll stick to my POM Cherry Blue, which I am currently in love with.

I went back and forth and realised that HHKBP2 is a really good option as starting grounds; I think there's a very good chance you will absolutely love it and if you won't, you've basically seen everything - the most exotic (still mass available) switches with the most exotic layout. From there you can go either way as per what bothers you with the keyboard and you know exactly what you want from your next one.

The initial investment is big, sure, but from here on out you should know exactly what you want (even if you don't like the keyboard) - this probably saves more time and money in the long run than buying cheap keyboards and finding bothersome problems with each.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:47:52
Well I went with a HHKBP2. If I will not like switches (but will like the layout) I'll go for a Poker II. If I will not like the layout (but will love the switches) I'll probably go with a Realforce TKL + extra realforce numpad (so kb is left of mouse, numpad is right of mouse). If I will not like either the layout or switches I'll stick to my POM Cherry Blue, which I am currently in love with.

I went back and forth and realised that HHKBP2 is a really good option as starting grounds; I think there's a very good chance you will absolutely love it and if you won't, you've basically seen everything - the most exotic (still mass available) switches with the most exotic layout. From there you can go either way as per what bothers you with the keyboard and you know exactly what you want from your next one.

The initial investment is big, sure, but from here on out you should know exactly what you want (even if you don't like the keyboard) - this probably saves more time and money in the long run than buying cheap keyboards and finding bothersome problems with each.

An excellent approach!

The only downside is the initial cost, for a HHKB, but then if you are prepared to pay that much then you will be prepared for it.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:56:16
The only problem now is the wait...jesus, it's inbound to Europe from LA right now, go my little keyboard, FLY to me! :D
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 16 December 2013, 04:20:39
Hi Air Tree, Any decision made yet?

For what it's worth, I'd recommend waiting until the Nexus (Acidfire's advanced updated version of the ErgoDox with angled thumb clusters) is available and get one of those with blank keys.

That's the most ergonomic option and since it's programmable you can also use a more ergonomic character layout.

If you don't want to go that extreme, then I'd recommend a Poker 2 with MX Browns for the following reasons:

1. Stock keycaps. They're PBT.
2. Aftermarket keycaps... there are tons of options for aftermarket caps which fit, and let's face it: You're on GH, you're going to switch keycaps at some point.
2. You can find out if the 60% layout works for you or not and whether or not you like the MX switches.
3. The Browns are a good starter switch, good for gaming and typing.
4. The switches can be modded in many ways including swapping stems and springs to turn them into different switches, so you can make the board feel how you want if you don't like the stock feel.

The problems with getting a HHKBP2 as a starter board are:

1. (Very) Limited keycap options. And getting even more limited since it looks like Topre will stop producing aftermarket sets.
2. (Very) High cost.
3. You still won't know what MX switches feel like (although you'll have the reverse problem with the Poker, not know what Topre feels like).
4. You can't change the feeling of the switches if you don't like them or want to try something else.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tuxsavvy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 04:53:05
Hi Air Tree, Any decision made yet?

For what it's worth, I'd recommend waiting until the Nexus (Acidfire's advanced updated version of the ErgoDox with angled thumb clusters) is available and get one of those with blank keys.

That's the most ergonomic option and since it's programmable you can also use a more ergonomic character layout.

If you don't want to go that extreme, then I'd recommend a Poker 2 with MX Browns for the following reasons:

1. Stock keycaps. They're PBT.
2. Aftermarket keycaps... there are tons of options for aftermarket caps which fit, and let's face it: You're on GH, you're going to switch keycaps at some point.
2. You can find out if the 60% layout works for you or not and whether or not you like the MX switches.
3. The Browns are a good starter switch, good for gaming and typing.
4. The switches can be modded in many ways including swapping stems and springs to turn them into different switches, so you can make the board feel how you want if you don't like the stock feel.

The problems with getting a HHKBP2 as a starter board are:

1. (Very) Limited keycap options. And getting even more limited since it looks like Topre will stop producing aftermarket sets.
2. (Very) High cost.
3. You still won't know what MX switches feel like (although you'll have the reverse problem with the Poker, not know what Topre feels like).
4. You can't change the feeling of the switches if you don't like them or want to try something else.

Two points highlighted in bold I don't quite agree fully.

The high cost is partly true if you source it from maybe elitekeyboards.com. If you source it direct from Japan you forfeit any warranties but it works out cheaper. If you love HHKB Pro series but cannot afford Pro2 then there is always Pro JP to look at which apparently on Japanese seller sites, they retail the Pro JP much cheaper than Pro2 (the same said case is not the same with Type-S unfortunately). Last but not least one can almost always source a second hand HHKB Pro for sale if they are tight on the budget.

Not saying that one cannot find Poker II second hands as well if need be but at least for HHKB Pro there are some more options available should they be on a budget.

As for changing the feeling of the switches. Not quite true for the reasons that you can get either harder or softer rubber for HHKB. However, it also means that you have to harvest from a Realforce (for instance) keyboard which would mean that you need to fork out more money than say for example buying Cherry MX switches and applying them. Apart from that there aren't really that much other mods that are available for changing the feel of the Topre in general to be frank.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:15:06
Well I went with a HHKBP2.

'REGIBALD, PREPARE THE JIZZATORIUM. A NEW CADET SHALL BE JOINING THE COMMUNITY JERK TONIGHT.'

'MMMM, LAY OUT MY SANDPAPER GLOVES WOULD YOU OLD CHAP? DADDY'S BEEN EXTRA NAUGHTY THIS WEEK.'
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:28:20
Well I went with a HHKBP2.

'REGIBALD, PREPARE THE JIZZATORIUM. A NEW CADET SHALL BE JOINING THE COMMUNITY JERK TONIGHT.'

'MMMM, LAY OUT MY SANDPAPER GLOVES WOULD YOU OLD CHAP? DADDY'S BEEN EXTRA NAUGHTY THIS WEEK.'


As others have already told you this before, your condescending attitude towards some users is completely uncalled for. You're also ASSuming and you know what they say about ASSumptions, right?
Thank you, "Regibald".
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:40:20
Well I went with a HHKBP2.

'REGIBALD, PREPARE THE JIZZATORIUM. A NEW CADET SHALL BE JOINING THE COMMUNITY JERK TONIGHT.'

'MMMM, LAY OUT MY SANDPAPER GLOVES WOULD YOU OLD CHAP? DADDY'S BEEN EXTRA NAUGHTY THIS WEEK.'


As others have already told you this before, your condescending attitude towards some users is completely uncalled for. You're also ASSuming and you know what they say about ASSumptions, right?
Thank you, "Regibald".

'REGIBALD, PREPARE THE FURNACE. WE HAVE ANOTHER LETTER OF COMPLAINT. LET US SORT IT UNDER, UMMMMMM, FUEL FOR FIRE AND WARMTH. HMMM, EXCELLENT.'
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:55:14
You are very funny. Not sure to whom, but I guess SOMEBODY must find you funny, otherwise you probably wouldn't keep this up for 30 years.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:06:47
You are very funny. Not sure to whom, but I guess SOMEBODY must find you funny, otherwise you probably wouldn't keep this up for 30 years.

I love that you know so much about me. If you can convince more people I'm real, maybe I'll turn into a real boy. It would be a Christmas miracle!
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 December 2013, 07:21:22
Why not wait until after you go crazy to make up your mind?

Then you can change it with impunity.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:55:28
I think i have decided to get a poker 2 with cherry mx reds, and if i don't like reds it's browns because i can't stand the clicky sound of blues.

And from there i will be waiting until we here news of the CM topre board or just the Topre with Mx stem's in general.


In any case if i like the poker 2 i will probably end up buying a set of keycaps and maybe a aluminium case and plate in any case (Ha pun!)
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/70bff581.gif)
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: C5Allroad on Mon, 16 December 2013, 09:02:43
Get the HHKB. If you don't like sell it here on classifieds. I'm sure you will be able to sell it very quickly, if you're having doubts whether or not to buy the ergodox.

Sure, if you don't like it, pass the problem onto someone else...
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Another mans trash is a another mans treasure.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 December 2013, 09:59:21
I think i have decided to get a poker 2 with cherry mx reds, and if i don't like reds it's browns because i can't stand the clicky sound of blues.

And from there i will be waiting until we here news of the CM topre board or just the Topre with Mx stem's in general.


In any case if i like the poker 2 i will probably end up buying a set of keycaps and maybe a aluminium case and plate in any case (Ha pun!)
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Eh...?  Better choice than Topre!! slightly less than our hero and savior yes (Nicholas Cage = Egdx)

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Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:45:33
Well I went with a HHKBP2.

'REGIBALD, PREPARE THE JIZZATORIUM. A NEW CADET SHALL BE JOINING THE COMMUNITY JERK TONIGHT.'

'MMMM, LAY OUT MY SANDPAPER GLOVES WOULD YOU OLD CHAP? DADDY'S BEEN EXTRA NAUGHTY THIS WEEK.'


As others have already told you this before, your condescending attitude towards some users is completely uncalled for. You're also ASSuming and you know what they say about ASSumptions, right?
Thank you, "Regibald".

That was the most terribly stupid pun I've ever heard, and made me go from willing to brush off your exhibited uncalled-for anger into laughing at your inability to understand a joke.

And I really wish I could see that new CM TKL board, but I'm at school and the filter..


Sure, if you don't like it, pass the problem onto someone else...
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Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:52:47
Well I went with a HHKBP2.

'REGIBALD, PREPARE THE JIZZATORIUM. A NEW CADET SHALL BE JOINING THE COMMUNITY JERK TONIGHT.'

'MMMM, LAY OUT MY SANDPAPER GLOVES WOULD YOU OLD CHAP? DADDY'S BEEN EXTRA NAUGHTY THIS WEEK.'


So hope this is an actual joke that kinda fell flat and not srs.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:23:06
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
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Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:23:57
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
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of course. aluminium isn't cheap
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:25:54
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
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(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)



and at that price you might as well go with a korean custom for a little moar. welcome to wallethack. the rabbit hole never ends...
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:28:39
just go buy john's kmac 1 for $300 and save some monet
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:30:04
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)



and at that price you might as well go with a korean custom for a little moar. welcome to wallethack. the rabbit hole never ends...
What is the benefit of a korean custom anyways?

Once i get a job i'm only going to be making 8300$ due to restricted working hours because of my age...My wallet is already hurting. Halp me!
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:30:53
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)



and at that price you might as well go with a korean custom for a little moar. welcome to wallethack. the rabbit hole never ends...
What is the benefit of a korean custom anyways?

Once i get a job i'm only going to be making 8300$ due to restricted working hours because of my age...My wallet is already hurting. Halp me!

quality
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:32:26
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)



and at that price you might as well go with a korean custom for a little moar. welcome to wallethack. the rabbit hole never ends...
What is the benefit of a korean custom anyways?

Once i get a job i'm only going to be making 8300$ due to restricted working hours because of my age...My wallet is already hurting. Halp me!
Benefits of a Korean keyboard are

A) It's attractive

B) It's very personalized

C) It's something a little different (to people who don't know too much about keyboards)

There may be more, but these are (IMO) the most important 3.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:33:50
just go buy john's kmac 1 for $300 and save some monet
Could you link me to that kmac 1 then?

Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:36:08
just go buy john's kmac 1 for $300 and save some monet
Could you link me to that kmac 1 then?



http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.0
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tuxsavvy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:38:39
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif) (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)


and at that price you might as well go with a korean custom for a little moar. welcome to wallethack. the rabbit hole never ends...
What is the benefit of a korean custom anyways?

Once i get a job i'm only going to be making 8300$ due to restricted working hours because of my age...My wallet is already hurting. Halp me!

From what I can see:
Though I personally do not have a Korean custom so do not quote me on it. This is from what I can see.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:39:53
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:52:31
just go buy john's kmac 1 for $300 and save some monet
Could you link me to that kmac 1 then?



http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.0
Hmm, I wasn't really looking at blacks. Mostly reds.

And i would have to add the price of keycaps and in that end it would end up being 400$ anyways. Plus i like the 60% size for some reason

Other than that i can't really see anything that i would take over the poker 2 with the extras, It would seem the poker 2 with the extra mods i would do would be pretty much the same but a little bit less money.

Or i could be very wrong.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:00:38
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Could you link me to the places to get the stuff for starting to build a custom? I think you convinced me.

And if you don't mind me asking what are stickers?
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:09:52
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Could you link me to the places to get the stuff for starting to build a custom? I think you convinced me.

And if you don't mind me asking what are stickers?
I am not 100% sure if it is still open and if ordering now would result it later shipping but this is what I got.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0;topicseen

Stickers go between the top and the bottom of the switches, some people say they stabilize the switches better, some say they keep dust out of lubed switches. I can't really say anything about any of that since I didn't and wont bother doing tests but at around 6 dollars(the GB sold them for 1 dollar, but shipping was a couple dollars as well) it might as well be done if you are opening up switches. I would mainly say they are for aesthetics as long as you are using clear switch tops, or else you just see a bit of color sticking out of the side of the switch.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:18:37
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Could you link me to the places to get the stuff for starting to build a custom? I think you convinced me.

And if you don't mind me asking what are stickers?
I am not 100% sure if it is still open and if ordering now would result it later shipping but this is what I got.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0;topicseen

Stickers go between the top and the bottom of the switches, some people say they stabilize the switches better, some say they keep dust out of lubed switches. I can't really say anything about any of that since I didn't and wont bother doing tests but at around 6 dollars(the GB sold them for 1 dollar, but shipping was a couple dollars as well) it might as well be done if you are opening up switches. I would mainly say they are for aesthetics as long as you are using clear switch tops, or else you just see a bit of color sticking out of the side of the switch.
How much is your custom going to cost you anyways? I'm guessing in the 500$ range if i add it up correctly?
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:26:16
My gh60 is around this number atm.

Edit: oops it is more I forgot to add my keycaps...

Btw I already drank the wallet hack koolaid a long time ago.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:28:41
I honestly don't think much of all the aluminum...   it's a tool...  we're not women... lets stop playing dressup...

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/17f0f3b0.gif)

if you must play dressup... spend the cash in items people will actually see.



Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:30:21
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Could you link me to the places to get the stuff for starting to build a custom? I think you convinced me.

And if you don't mind me asking what are stickers?
I am not 100% sure if it is still open and if ordering now would result it later shipping but this is what I got.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0;topicseen

Stickers go between the top and the bottom of the switches, some people say they stabilize the switches better, some say they keep dust out of lubed switches. I can't really say anything about any of that since I didn't and wont bother doing tests but at around 6 dollars(the GB sold them for 1 dollar, but shipping was a couple dollars as well) it might as well be done if you are opening up switches. I would mainly say they are for aesthetics as long as you are using clear switch tops, or else you just see a bit of color sticking out of the side of the switch.
How much is your custom going to cost you anyways? I'm guessing in the 500$ range if i add it up correctly?
The aluminum case was 160 and 180 after shipping
stickers were 8 (techkeys was the only website with lime green in stock)
pcb was 50 (20 dollar shipping on this as well)
plate was 45 I think
springs were 10
switches were 50
lube was 13
leds 10

no keycaps yet, I think i am going to get toxic set so that will probably be 100, no custom cable, so that would be around 20-30 if I had someone do it for me.

I don't think I am missing anything
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:32:17
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Could you link me to the places to get the stuff for starting to build a custom? I think you convinced me.

And if you don't mind me asking what are stickers?
I am not 100% sure if it is still open and if ordering now would result it later shipping but this is what I got.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0;topicseen

Stickers go between the top and the bottom of the switches, some people say they stabilize the switches better, some say they keep dust out of lubed switches. I can't really say anything about any of that since I didn't and wont bother doing tests but at around 6 dollars(the GB sold them for 1 dollar, but shipping was a couple dollars as well) it might as well be done if you are opening up switches. I would mainly say they are for aesthetics as long as you are using clear switch tops, or else you just see a bit of color sticking out of the side of the switch.
How much is your custom going to cost you anyways? I'm guessing in the 500$ range if i add it up correctly?
The aluminum case was 160 and 180 after shipping
stickers were 8 (techkeys was the only website with lime green in stock)
pcb was 50 (20 dollar shipping on this as well)
plate was 45 I think
springs were 10
switches were 50
lube was 13
leds 10

no keycaps yet, I think i am going to get toxic set so that will probably be 100, no custom cable, so that would be around 20-30 if I had someone do it for me.

I don't think I am missing anything
I thought it was more for the fact i thought you where getting the premium version of the FMJ case. And that costs 250$
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:34:14
Lets see...

Pcb
Case
Stickers
Lube
Switches
Springs
Switch tops
Cable
Keycaps
Leds

Using candycorn click clacks for esc, wasd, arrows (fn keys, 1x delete, 1x backspace. ...
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:37:38
Oh god, The poker 2 with the upgrades i want (Classic Beige keycaps +Aluminium plate and case) Comes out to 365$..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_087_.gif)

Custom boards are never cheap, and while the poker is a great board I don't think it is really the best way to go as far as a custom keyboard goes.

I was going to put it in my FMJ case but I decided to just go all out while I was at it and ordered a pcb and plate from sprit, clears, springs, lube, stickers, clear tops (if they evar show up, thanks rarararar)
Getting a custom pcb and just simple switches like stock blues could be cheaper than a poker if you aren't using the stock poker keycaps in the first place.

My point is, that isn't even on the expensive side of things, anyone saying HHKB is more expensive in this situation is just stroking their ego (not calling names because this doesn't apply to all members, but a lot of members love to brag about how much their HHKB was)

People, he said he was getting an aluminum case and plate for the poker, how the hell is that cheaper than a HHKB?

I can't make your decision for you either way though, I honestly am going to say that I think the HHKB presents a decent value, the board is solid, you aren't going to be doing any case swaps and the stock keycaps are nice, I am going to pick one up next year.

Just think, poker 2 plus nice replacement keycaps(80-100) is going to cost up to or around 220, which isn't much cheaper than an HHKB. (and that is before an aluminum case, plate and any other switch tuning)
Could you link me to the places to get the stuff for starting to build a custom? I think you convinced me.

And if you don't mind me asking what are stickers?
I am not 100% sure if it is still open and if ordering now would result it later shipping but this is what I got.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0;topicseen

Stickers go between the top and the bottom of the switches, some people say they stabilize the switches better, some say they keep dust out of lubed switches. I can't really say anything about any of that since I didn't and wont bother doing tests but at around 6 dollars(the GB sold them for 1 dollar, but shipping was a couple dollars as well) it might as well be done if you are opening up switches. I would mainly say they are for aesthetics as long as you are using clear switch tops, or else you just see a bit of color sticking out of the side of the switch.
How much is your custom going to cost you anyways? I'm guessing in the 500$ range if i add it up correctly?
The aluminum case was 160 and 180 after shipping
stickers were 8 (techkeys was the only website with lime green in stock)
pcb was 50 (20 dollar shipping on this as well)
plate was 45 I think
springs were 10
switches were 50
lube was 13
leds 10

no keycaps yet, I think i am going to get toxic set so that will probably be 100, no custom cable, so that would be around 20-30 if I had someone do it for me.

I don't think I am missing anything
I thought it was more for the fact i thought you where getting the premium version of the FMJ case. And that costs 250$
Nope, not even the premium case and it adds up to that, I baby my keyboards so I didn't bother getting 7075. Also 35 for clear switch tops, but once again, I might not even get them because of rarar disappearing.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:41:48
None of that is counting th cost of the soldering equipment etc.... or assembly services.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:43:58
None of that is counting th cost of the soldering equipment etc.... or assembly services.
It's a custom board, I thought the need to solder was implied.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:45:09
None of that is counting th cost of the soldering equipment etc.... or assembly services.

the GH60 is very easy to assemble.. if you got charged more than $10 for the soldering, ur being robbed, and that guy is not ur buddy... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)

Lube  job is technically worth $30, But you can't trust anyone to do that for you.. because they probably cut corners.. it's just tedious as crap.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 18:46:37
None of that is counting th cost of the soldering equipment etc.... or assembly services.

the GH60 is very easy to assemble.. if you got charged more than $10 for the soldering, ur being robbed, and that guy is not ur buddy...
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)


Lube  job is technically worth $30, But you can't trust anyone to do that for you.. because they probably cut corners.. it's just tedious as crap.

I was implying that if the op does not know how to solder then he should probably hire someone to do it for him.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 December 2013, 18:47:55
None of that is counting th cost of the soldering equipment etc.... or assembly services.

the GH60 is very easy to assemble.. if you got charged more than $10 for the soldering, ur being robbed, and that guy is not ur buddy...
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)


Lube  job is technically worth $30, But you can't trust anyone to do that for you.. because they probably cut corners.. it's just tedious as crap.

I was implying that if the op does not know how to solder then he should probably hire someone to do it for him.

yea for GH60.. $10 labor + materials... if they charge you more.. they're un-friendly/ un-neighborly..
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 18:58:58
None of that is counting th cost of the soldering equipment etc.... or assembly services.

the GH60 is very easy to assemble.. if you got charged more than $10 for the soldering, ur being robbed, and that guy is not ur buddy...
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)


Lube  job is technically worth $30, But you can't trust anyone to do that for you.. because they probably cut corners.. it's just tedious as crap.

I was implying that if the op does not know how to solder then he should probably hire someone to do it for him.

yea for GH60.. $10 labor + materials... if they charge you more.. they're un-friendly/ un-neighborly..

The assembly charge for the groupbuy was $25.
You should start a assembly service and have me put it in my sticky thread if your that cheap.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: adhoc on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:21:32
Don't you guys think that for someone who has never even had a mechanical keyboard it would make more sense to recommend him something else apart from black poker II completely rebuilt right off the bat, grounds up?

Just sayin'....this customization thingy, this must be a cultural difference between US and EU...you guys also love to customize cars and basically anything as long as it makes it unique, this is not very common over here. Just an interesting observation, not implying anything.
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:23:50
Don't you guys think that for someone who has never even had a mechanical keyboard it would make more sense to recommend him something else apart from black poker II completely rebuilt right off the bat, grounds up?

Just sayin'....this customization thingy, this must be a cultural difference between US and EU...you guys also love to customize cars and basically anything as long as it makes it unique, this is not very common over here. Just an interesting observation, not implying anything.

It would save them the time and money of buying any other keyboards
Title: Re: Help me make up my mind before i go crazy..
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 17 December 2013, 10:19:34
If you are "Tp4's Successor" then just go buy a ergodox because that is all tp4tissue likes.