Post by: JPG on Fri, 17 January 2014, 13:00:40
Location: 420 rue Guy [/b][/color][/font][/size][/size]([/color]map (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/420+Rue+Guy,+Montr%C3%A9al,+QC+H3J+1S6))[/font]
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[/size]Time: 9h30 to 17h (Swill place at least)
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:30:54
It's on!
Since I realized a lot of really cool GH'ers live in Montreal and it's less than 5 hours' drive from me, I have decided to do a meetup. After a secretive IC via PM I seem to have whipped up some interest.
Right now we are looking at sometime in early April, but I'm free just about any weekend. Please register your interest here!
Interested parties:
dorkvader
JPG
Swill
GL1TCH3D
oneproduct
DOX (!!)
Merranza
tchevass
nathanrosspowell
random rockets
clackhead
Toronto Coalition:
Elton
Sifo
Frostytoast
Day and venue confirmed April 11 at Swill's place.
Since this won't be a large meetup like Keycon we can easily meet at a resteraunt or park, but a house or business / conference room would be the best.
I have PM'd all those interested, but if you live in the area and want to come, please post here.
List of KBs that will be there
Beamspring
| Person | KB | Note |
| dorkvader | Displaywriter | modded with solenoid |
| dorkvader | 3278 | possibly |
| dorkvader | TKL 3278 | Possibly: currently in pieces |
Model F
| dorkvader | 122-key | oldest known example |
| dorkvader | 122-key | youngest known example |
| dorkvader | 107-key | the largest of the "kishsaver" Powdercoated case |
| dorkvader | 104-key | the "unsaver". I have two |
| dorkvader | 62-key | the "kishsaver". Currently in pieces |
| dorkvader | 50-key | The smaller kishsaver. I have two. |
| dorkvader | XTant | Depending on when I get the last part. |
| JPG | 122-key | |
| JPG | AT |
Model M
| dorkvader | AT&T KB305 | the AT&T licenced buckling spring KB |
| dorkvader | 1390120 | MANDOLIN CRYSTAL HYPE |
| dorkvader | 50-key | like the model F version, hacked and working |
| dorkvader | wheelwriter | bolt modded. (might not fit) |
| swill | Unicomp |
Cherry
| dorkvader | Skeldon | custom KM proudly made in the USA not Korea |
| dorkvader | lightsaver | 62g clears |
| dorkvader | infinity | 50g clears |
| dorkvader | Dolch | Heavily modified new switches stainless steel plate |
| Merranza | corsair K70 RGB | mx red rgb |
| tchevass | leopold FC750R | MX browns |
| nathanrosspowell | planck | clears |
| nathanrosspowell | poker II | clears |
| nathanrosspowell | KUL 87 | clears |
| random_rockets | KBP V60 | clears or ergo clears |
| random_rockets | Noppoo Choc mini 2M | wireless |
| GL1TCH3D | Mobik | ? |
| swill | Filco TKL | MX Browns |
| swill | Leopold FC660C | ? |
| swill | Sprit 75% | Possibly |
| swill | Swill 60% | Possibly |
| clackhead | Filco Majestouch | Cherry Blue |
| clackhead | cm storm TKL | Cherry MX red |
| clackhead | cm storm TKL ninja | Cherry MX blue |
Topre
| dorkvader | Realforce 104-pro | 10'th anniversary 30g uniform |
| GL1TCH3D | Realforce HI-PRO | 45g |
hall effect
| dorkvader | bud keypad | |
| dorkvader | 1976 | fully lubed |
| dorkvader | 1977 | tripleshot keycaps hype |
| dorkvader | ??? | whatever else there is room for |
alps
| dorkvader | kiibohd | heathkit / zenith from 1979 tee mount |
| dorkvader | pingsaver | tee mount |
| swill | Dell AT101 | Black Alps |
Other
| dorkvader | alphameric | capacative RD with NKRO |
| dorkvader | sanyo MBC1000 | first gen fujitsu leaf springs |
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:31:48
Edit: That awkward moment when I realize the OP is a year old :(. My statement still stands though and meetups are fun :).
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:36:27
Please please please consider doing this in the second week of June. I'll be in town then.
Edit: That awkward moment when I realize the OP is a year old :(. My statement still stands though and meetups are fun :).
Not allowed! :p
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:44:44
Post by: JPG on Mon, 16 March 2015, 14:12:06
As for the date itself, as long as I know it 2-3 weeks in advance I should be ok. I am out of the country from 9th of June to 16 of June +- 1 day. Other than that, I usually have nothing planned 2-3 weeks in advance.
As for the place I live a good 30-45 min out of Montreal and my girlfriend is not such a keyboard lover hehe. But I have a car so wherever you want to do it is fine for me.
Post by: swill on Mon, 16 March 2015, 14:56:22
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:11:56
I am definitely interested in this. My main challenge will be to convince my wife to let me go on a weekend, but the earlier I know the date the easier the negotiation.
As for the date itself, as long as I know it 2-3 weeks in advance I should be ok. I am out of the country from 9th of June to 16 of June +- 1 day. Other than that, I usually have nothing planned 2-3 weeks in advance.
As for the place I live a good 30-45 min out of Montreal and my girlfriend is not such a keyboard lover hehe. But I have a car so wherever you want to do it is fine for me.
A wife and girlfriend! Double negotiations!
Post by: JPG on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:27:41
I am definitely interested in this. My main challenge will be to convince my wife to let me go on a weekend, but the earlier I know the date the easier the negotiation.
As for the date itself, as long as I know it 2-3 weeks in advance I should be ok. I am out of the country from 9th of June to 16 of June +- 1 day. Other than that, I usually have nothing planned 2-3 weeks in advance.
As for the place I live a good 30-45 min out of Montreal and my girlfriend is not such a keyboard lover hehe. But I have a car so wherever you want to do it is fine for me.
A wife and girlfriend! Double negotiations!
Well we are not married yet, but it's mostly a mater of time and money and priorities for said money. My 2 kids are all the rings I need, but we will get married eventually!
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:57:06
Well we are not married yet, but it's mostly a mater of time and money and priorities for said money. My 2 kids are all the rings I need, but we will get married eventually!Aww that's so good to hear. I wish you the best.
Please please please consider doing this in the second week of June. I'll be in town then.
Edit: That awkward moment when I realize the OP is a year old :(. My statement still stands though and meetups are fun :).
Sounds like a good date for montreal meetup #2
I know this topic is a year old but I resurrected it because it's relevant and I know I can pressure the OP to add info to it :p
Post by: Merranza on Tue, 17 March 2015, 05:15:54
Count me in as interested too. Not super original and refined as most keyboards you have but I could add a Corsair K70 rgb with reds if someone is interested.
Post by: tchevass on Tue, 17 March 2015, 06:10:29
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 17 March 2015, 06:27:41
My current boards are a Planck, poker 2 and a KUL 87 (all with clears). Sadly my first Korean custom (TX1800) won't have arrived Heh.
Post by: random_rockets on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:10:41
Also a choc mini 2m (wireless) coming in.
Post by: JPG on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:19:36
As for keyboards, I can mostly bring model F's. I will definitely bring my F122 and could bring either an AT F or Filco with browns if there's enough interest.
I will be happy to try new cherry switches like clears and linear's too! I would also like to try alps and Topre and other funky switches (beamspring anyone?)
This will be good!
Post by: swill on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:07:38
I will check with my wife's school schedule and the dates I can get the venue and then I will propose a couple dates. Sound good?
Post by: random_rockets on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:22:19
Post by: JPG on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:23:36
Do we have tentative dates yet? I am looking into booking a venue, so we will have to start figuring out the details regarding dates.
I will check with my wife's school schedule and the dates I can get the venue and then I will propose a couple dates. Sound good?
Good for me!
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:26:32
/Murica
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/07baa27a.gif)jk
Post by: JPG on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:26:52
Canada isn't even a real country..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/07baa27a.gif)
You are not even a real person ...
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:28:11
Canada isn't even a real country..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/07baa27a.gif)
You are not even a real person ...
I aim not to be.. to be not..
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:41:59
I also have an SSK but that's heavy and I don't have a car xD
Post by: swill on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:57:39
I can bring my TKL Hipro 45g and my Mobik.Come on now. I want to try an ssk. :)
I also have an SSK but that's heavy and I don't have a car xD
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 17 March 2015, 20:01:34
My negotiation has begin. It goes well. The acceptance step is done. Now will be the harder part of negotiating for longer meetup lol.I'll be bringing 5-10 model fs and 1-3 beamspring, see my second post.
As for keyboards, I can mostly bring model F's. I will definitely bring my F122 and could bring either an AT F or Filco with browns if there's enough interest.
I will be happy to try new cherry switches like clears and linear's too! I would also like to try alps and Topre and other funky switches (beamspring anyone?)
This will be good!
OOH I forgot that I have both the oldest known and newest known model F 122-key. I can bring both of those to compare. I might have sold my AT model F by then we'll see.
I can bring my TKL Hipro 45g and my Mobik.cant wait to try hipro again. that's pretty much the only topre im interested in (other than utron) i didn't get too much of a chance to try haata's at keycon.
I also have an SSK but that's heavy and I don't have a car xD
anyway SSKs aren't that heavy, especially compared with a 6020218. Are you walking or something? :p
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 17 March 2015, 20:05:52
Do we have tentative dates yet? I am looking into booking a venue, so we will have to start figuring out the details regarding dates.April 11?
I will check with my wife's school schedule and the dates I can get the venue and then I will propose a couple dates. Sound good?
It dodges Easter and isn't too far in the future. I'll run it past DOX to see if he can make it.
But yes please check the venue and propose something, that'd make it a lot easier.
I was going to offer to bring more KBs if anyone wanted to try more cherry but It looks like I'll probably have to back off a little on what I'm bringing to make it all fit on the tables.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:03:20
I can bring my TKL Hipro 45g and my Mobik.cant wait to try hipro again. that's pretty much the only topre im interested in (other than utron) i didn't get too much of a chance to try haata's at keycon.
I also have an SSK but that's heavy and I don't have a car xD
anyway SSKs aren't that heavy, especially compared with a 6020218. Are you walking or something? :p
I'd have to take the bus / metro if this is going to be downtown. I'd like to avoid a repeat of when I was carrying $3000 of audio equipment on the metro >.>
Do we have tentative dates yet? I am looking into booking a venue, so we will have to start figuring out the details regarding dates.April 11?
I will check with my wife's school schedule and the dates I can get the venue and then I will propose a couple dates. Sound good?
I think that's right before my 2 hardest exams so it'll really be based on how much studying I've done before then
Post by: swill on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:04:33
I have tentatively booked a venue for Sat April 11th. I have validated that I can book the space and I have verified via the calendar that the space is free. I made my request tonight and I see no reason why I wouldn't get it.
The venue is at our office. It is kind of a funky office space in an old warehouse. We have a big open area in the front where we have events. We even have a projector if we want to use it.
Here is an idea of what the space looks like:
(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10418987_791766304224960_5402936274926990963_n.jpg?oh=ab1aa9f4e7e17e0dfa802a05a4ab7055&oe=5586C69E)
We have a bar, but I don't think we can technically serve alcohol because we don't have a liquor license. I don't think it will be a problem if we bring it though. I can check on this...
It is pretty centrally located at Notre-Dame and Rue Guy (fyi: rue = street). It is about a 10 minute walk from Lucien-L'Allier which is both a metro and the commuter train station for downtown.
Here is a link to google maps... (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Rue+Notre-Dame+O+%26+Rue+Guy,+Montr%C3%A9al,+QC+H3J/@45.4900999,-73.5672149,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4cc91a64129acdf5:0x5df3071246ed367c)
Most importantly I have made sure that I have the day free. :) My wife usually works on Saturdays and I usually have the little guy, so we made a slight modification to our schedule. I don't think it hurts that my birthday is the day before (the 10th). :P
I think we are good to go people... :)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 18 March 2015, 07:46:30
Alright, here is a little update from my side.
I have tentatively booked a venue for Sat April 11th. I have validated that I can book the space and I have verified via the calendar that the space is free. I made my request tonight and I see no reason why I wouldn't get it.
The venue is at our office. It is kind of a funky office space in an old warehouse. We have a big open area in the front where we have events. We even have a projector if we want to use it.
Here is an idea of what the space looks like:Show Image(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10418987_791766304224960_5402936274926990963_n.jpg?oh=ab1aa9f4e7e17e0dfa802a05a4ab7055&oe=5586C69E)
We have a bar, but I don't think we can technically serve alcohol because we don't have a liquor license. I don't think it will be a problem if we bring it though. I can check on this...
It is pretty centrally located at Notre-Dame and Rue Guy (fyi: rue = street). It is about a 10 minute walk from Lucien-L'Allier which is both a metro and the commuter train station for downtown.
Here is a link to google maps... (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Rue+Notre-Dame+O+%26+Rue+Guy,+Montr%C3%A9al,+QC+H3J/@45.4900999,-73.5672149,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4cc91a64129acdf5:0x5df3071246ed367c)
Most importantly I have made sure that I have the day free. :) My wife usually works on Saturdays and I usually have the little guy, so we made a slight modification to our schedule. I don't think it hurts that my birthday is the day before (the 10th). :p
I think we are good to go people... :)
Nice, that's pretty much as central as you can get! I need to come with my car anyway, but it's still nice for everyone else.
I should be ok for the 11. I will confirm it as soon as I can.
Post by: random_rockets on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:16:58
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:39:11
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:49:57
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:50:16
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:51:15
If there is anyone willing to let me ride with them from the Toronto area then I might be able to go.
You should PM some of the other Torontonians and see if you can get a group to drive up together. Elton comes to mind. I am sure there are others. Isn't Halverson somewhere over there?
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:00:24
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:10:50
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:52:41
Do we have sufficient tables at the space or should we rent some?
I think I have like 5-10 tables put together that I can just pull out into the space. I have another 10(ish) that are piled against a wall that I can screw the legs onto if we need them, so we are good. We could pretty much fill the space wall to wall with the tables we have there, so we are all set. :)
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:57:49
- Filco TKL (Browns)
- FC660C
- Unicomp
- Dell with black alps if we want
- Sprit 75% (if I have a chance to build it by then)
- swill60 (if I have a chance to build it by then)
I will also bring a bunch of keycaps so people can see them in person.
Notably:
- Penumbra
- Dolch (and a bunch of color mods)
(I am sure I am missing some here)
I will also bring a bunch of artisan caps. I am always willing to trade caps that are not part of my matching sets, so bring artisans if you are interested in trades...
I am sure I will think of other stuff before the time comes...
Post by: random_rockets on Wed, 18 March 2015, 15:12:19
Also I will have the Eve keycap set and the Tai-ho Miami double-shots.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:48:04
Along with SA sets. Would also like to see SA on Novatouch to compare to HiPro topre
Post by: ClackHead on Wed, 18 March 2015, 21:08:26
I also am happy to assist with anything.
I don't have anything extraordinary to bring but I will bring them anyways:
Filco Majestouch Cherry MX Blue
CM Storm TKL Cherry MX Red
CM Storm TKL Ninja Cherry MX bBlue
Post by: JPG on Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:42:07
Also, what's the time range everyone expect to be there?
My negotiations are going well, I should be able to attend most of it :thumb:
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:14:49
Hey Swill, do you know at what time you have the room?
Also, what's the time range everyone expect to be there?
My negotiations are going well, I should be able to attend most of it :thumb:
I have the place all day, so that is not a limiting factor.
My main limiting factor is the train schedule to get downtown on the weekend. One train arrives at 9:00AM and the next arrives at Noon. The trains that I can catching to head home are at 5:30PM and 10:30PM.
I suspect I will probably plan to arrive at 9:00AM and leave at 5:30PM. Not sure how long we want, so I am just planning to be there most of the day to be safe. There are a bunch of pubs around the corner if we get bored. :P
I may be able to take the car, but I am not going to plan for that since I suspect my wife will want it to go do stuff while I am out.
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 20 March 2015, 11:45:39
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 11:50:55
Only if this was around May..
I believe that CPTBadAss will be in town from June 6-12th (to be confirmed), so we will likely do round 2 then. Maybe that is possible? Those are excellent dates to be in Montreal, it is beautiful then...
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 20 March 2015, 12:03:30
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 12:06:18
Someone in Toronto wanna drive me?
Well thats 2 with you and FrostyToast. Now you guys just need to find someone with a car. :)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 20 March 2015, 12:16:13
Someone in Toronto wanna drive me?
Let's bus there
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 20 March 2015, 12:25:12
Someone in Toronto wanna drive me?
Let's bus there
Never have before but I know friends who have for LANs. TORONTO INVASION
Post by: JPG on Fri, 20 March 2015, 12:36:27
Someone in Toronto wanna drive me?
Let's bus there
Never have before but I know friends who have for LANs. TORONTO INVASION
We can manage Toronto's invasion :p
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Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 22:46:09
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 21 March 2015, 00:15:14
I have the place all day, so that is not a limiting factor.I'd be more than happy to drive you around.
My main limiting factor is the train schedule to get downtown on the weekend. One train arrives at 9:00AM and the next arrives at Noon. The trains that I can catching to head home are at 5:30PM and 10:30PM.
I suspect I will probably plan to arrive at 9:00AM and leave at 5:30PM. Not sure how long we want, so I am just planning to be there most of the day to be safe. There are a bunch of pubs around the corner if we get bored. :P
I may be able to take the car, but I am not going to plan for that since I suspect my wife will want it to go do stuff while I am out.
Alps is probably what I'm most interested in =PI'll see if I can get my hands on a novatouch. I do want to buy one eventually mainly because novatouch + SA keycaps is really sublime. I prefer it to standard topre, though havent tried a/b with hipro. I think i'm not the only one who wants to do that comparison.
Along with SA sets. Would also like to see SA on Novatouch to compare to HiPro topre
If I get the job I interviewed for today I will absolutely be buying and then bringing a novatouch.
Round 2 dates (to be confirmed). I'll plan to be there.Only if this was around May..
I believe that CPTBadAss will be in town from June 6-12th (to be confirmed), so we will likely do round 2 then. Maybe that is possible? Those are excellent dates to be in Montreal, it is beautiful then...
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 21 March 2015, 01:10:29
Some geek wants to calculate this for fun?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 21 March 2015, 05:10:23
I am wondering... with Dorkvader bringing more than his weight in keyboards to the meetup, how much are the fuel costs for 10 hours worth of return journey driving with 150lbs of boards on board?
Some geek wants to calculate this for fun?
It's not significant relative to the weight of the car..
Post by: Novus on Sat, 21 March 2015, 05:28:05
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:05:53
I am wondering... with Dorkvader bringing more than his weight in keyboards to the meetup, how much are the fuel costs for 10 hours worth of return journey driving with 150lbs of boards on board?
Some geek wants to calculate this for fun?
It's not significant relative to the weight of the car..
You guys are no fun.
My car is rated for 35 MPG highway and I usually get 32-36 depending on how fast I drive. Curb weight is listed at 2800 Lb, Ming removed at least 400 Lb of material from the car making it at most 2400 Lb. If I add back that 400 Lb as me (130 Lbs) plus keyboards (260 Lbs), the percent difference in weight is (2400-2800)/(2400) = 17%, which is quite a bit actually. I suspect I might be carrying more than 260 Lbs of keyboards, but it'll depend a lot on what I bring.
Now, fuel economy is based most on speed and RPM, but we can assume that'll be the same if I have keyboards (or a passsenger) or not. After that, fuel economy is based exponentially on wind resistance, but we are also assuming my driving habits and the amount of trucks I drive behind will be the same. Finally, the third factor it's based on is weight (which affects resistance) and I believe it scales linearly.
So we can guess that I'll use as much as 15% more fuel on the way.
Now the whole trip is 600 miles, so unladen I expect to use 17 gallons of fuel, and laden I expect to use 19-20 gallons. The price difference would be about $7, which I think is probably worth it.
I just thought of something: I don't have any canadian currency handy. If someone wants to buy gas for me in canada I will be happy to pay them back via payapl.
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:32:02
I am wondering... with Dorkvader bringing more than his weight in keyboards to the meetup, how much are the fuel costs for 10 hours worth of return journey driving with 150lbs of boards on board?
Some geek wants to calculate this for fun?
It's not significant relative to the weight of the car..
Or a person lol
You guys (TP and onewolf) clearly are not Model F fanatics like Dorkvader and you haven't noticed that he listed an entire army of beam springs and Model Fs.
I was expecting him to bring more than his weight in keyboards, but wasn't even expecting 2x his weight in keyboards. But it makes sense, given that many boards that he is bringing have full metal casings and nearly every model he has listed is 10++ lbs each. I think the Skeldon must be Dorkvader's lightest keyboard.
That said, I don't feel very good about Dorkvader's testimony that 'Ming removed 400lbs of material from my car'. Sam, what 400lbs of material would that be? I trust the spare tyre and toolbox are not among the stuff Ming removed? :eek:
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:38:05
Have fun and take lots of pictures!
Only if this was around May..
I believe that CPTBadAss will be in town from June 6-12th (to be confirmed), so we will likely do round 2 then. Maybe that is possible? Those are excellent dates to be in Montreal, it is beautiful then...
Will see if I can swing this once dates are confirmed.
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 21 March 2015, 20:52:17
That said, I don't feel very good about Dorkvader's testimony that 'Ming removed 400lbs of material from my car'. Sam, what 400lbs of material would that be? I trust the spare tyre and toolbox are not among the stuff Ming removed? :eek:
The rear was stripped out: no panels or sound deadening. The rear seats were removed (though I do still have them) and most of the rest came out of the suspension when it was upgraded. Even the radio was removed. It's just an estimate but you'd be surprised what all that plastic panelling weighs.
So sad that this is right in the thick of my exam period, or I'd be 100% down to join the Toronto contingent.
Have fun and take lots of pictures!Only if this was around May..
I believe that CPTBadAss will be in town from June 6-12th (to be confirmed), so we will likely do round 2 then. Maybe that is possible? Those are excellent dates to be in Montreal, it is beautiful then...
Will see if I can swing this once dates are confirmed.
I'm also about 5 hours from Toronto, so when CPTbadass is in Montreal we can have a KB convention in Toronto instead :p
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 21:42:57
That said, I don't feel very good about Dorkvader's testimony that 'Ming removed 400lbs of material from my car'. Sam, what 400lbs of material would that be? I trust the spare tyre and toolbox are not among the stuff Ming removed? :eek:
The rear was stripped out: no panels or sound deadening. The rear seats were removed (though I do still have them) and most of the rest came out of the suspension when it was upgraded. Even the radio was removed. It's just an estimate but you'd be surprised what all that plastic panelling weighs.So sad that this is right in the thick of my exam period, or I'd be 100% down to join the Toronto contingent.
Have fun and take lots of pictures!Only if this was around May..
I believe that CPTBadAss will be in town from June 6-12th (to be confirmed), so we will likely do round 2 then. Maybe that is possible? Those are excellent dates to be in Montreal, it is beautiful then...
Will see if I can swing this once dates are confirmed.
I'm also about 5 hours from Toronto, so when CPTbadass is in Montreal we can have a KB convention in Toronto instead
Yes please, do want.
Post by: JPG on Sun, 22 March 2015, 19:54:49
I am wondering... with Dorkvader bringing more than his weight in keyboards to the meetup, how much are the fuel costs for 10 hours worth of return journey driving with 150lbs of boards on board?
Some geek wants to calculate this for fun?
It's not significant relative to the weight of the car..
You guys are no fun.
My car is rated for 35 MPG highway and I usually get 32-36 depending on how fast I drive. Curb weight is listed at 2800 Lb, Ming removed at least 400 Lb of material from the car making it at most 2400 Lb. If I add back that 400 Lb as me (130 Lbs) plus keyboards (260 Lbs), the percent difference in weight is (2400-2800)/(2400) = 17%, which is quite a bit actually. I suspect I might be carrying more than 260 Lbs of keyboards, but it'll depend a lot on what I bring.
Now, fuel economy is based most on speed and RPM, but we can assume that'll be the same if I have keyboards (or a passsenger) or not. After that, fuel economy is based exponentially on wind resistance, but we are also assuming my driving habits and the amount of trucks I drive behind will be the same. Finally, the third factor it's based on is weight (which affects resistance) and I believe it scales linearly.
So we can guess that I'll use as much as 15% more fuel on the way.
Now the whole trip is 600 miles, so unladen I expect to use 17 gallons of fuel, and laden I expect to use 19-20 gallons. The price difference would be about $7, which I think is probably worth it.
I just thought of something: I don't have any canadian currency handy. If someone wants to buy gas for me in canada I will be happy to pay them back via payapl.
DONT buy gas in Canada. Full you car before crossing the lines. Gas has like 100% taxes in Canada, cost at least twice in Canada than in US as far as I know, so even your 20% gain in CA$ won't be enough lol!
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:06:19
DONT buy gas in Canada. Full you car before crossing the lines. Gas has like 100% taxes in Canada, cost at least twice in Canada than in US as far as I know, so even your 20% gain in CA$ won't be enough lol!Good to know. My car has a pretty long range so I think I'll be fine as long as I fill up in Burlington Vt. (100 mi from montreal, I have a range of ~300 mi, and getting one or two gallons in Canada won't ruin me.)
Post by: user 18 on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:31:52
Gas prices right now are around a dollar per litre in Ontario, which translates to around $3.80 a gallon, which is $3.00 USD a gallon. Is gas that much cheaper in the states, or that much more expensive in QC? Last time I was in the states I seem to recall it being in the 3-4 dollar range, but I could be misremembering. That was a couple years ago, regardless.
Post by: swill on Sun, 22 March 2015, 21:05:56
Yes. This is really important. Gas is more than twice the price up here. Fill up at Swanton which is like 5 miles from the border. If you have any questions about the trip, let me know. I have driven it about 20 times (if not more).DONT buy gas in Canada. Full you car before crossing the lines. Gas has like 100% taxes in Canada, cost at least twice in Canada than in US as far as I know, so even your 20% gain in CA$ won't be enough lol!Good to know. My car has a pretty long range so I think I'll be fine as long as I fill up in Burlington Vt. (100 mi from montreal, I have a range of ~300 mi, and getting one or two gallons in Canada won't ruin me.)
Post by: swill on Sun, 22 March 2015, 21:08:15
It's more like a 25% gain right now, actually :(Its 1.20$ right now, but it has been ranging between 1.20 and 1.50 recently...
Gas prices right now are around a dollar per litre in Ontario, which translates to around $3.80 a gallon, which is $3.00 USD a gallon. Is gas that much cheaper in the states, or that much more expensive in QC? Last time I was in the states I seem to recall it being in the 3-4 dollar range, but I could be misremembering. That was a couple years ago, regardless.
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 23 March 2015, 09:20:08
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 23 March 2015, 09:23:53
Possibly with NIB French dye subs.
Post by: random_rockets on Mon, 23 March 2015, 09:32:20
I am wondering... with Dorkvader bringing more than his weight in keyboards to the meetup, how much are the fuel costs for 10 hours worth of return journey driving with 150lbs of boards on board?
Some geek wants to calculate this for fun?
It's not significant relative to the weight of the car..
You guys are no fun.
My car is rated for 35 MPG highway and I usually get 32-36 depending on how fast I drive. Curb weight is listed at 2800 Lb, Ming removed at least 400 Lb of material from the car making it at most 2400 Lb. If I add back that 400 Lb as me (130 Lbs) plus keyboards (260 Lbs), the percent difference in weight is (2400-2800)/(2400) = 17%, which is quite a bit actually. I suspect I might be carrying more than 260 Lbs of keyboards, but it'll depend a lot on what I bring.
Now, fuel economy is based most on speed and RPM, but we can assume that'll be the same if I have keyboards (or a passsenger) or not. After that, fuel economy is based exponentially on wind resistance, but we are also assuming my driving habits and the amount of trucks I drive behind will be the same. Finally, the third factor it's based on is weight (which affects resistance) and I believe it scales linearly.
So we can guess that I'll use as much as 15% more fuel on the way.
Now the whole trip is 600 miles, so unladen I expect to use 17 gallons of fuel, and laden I expect to use 19-20 gallons. The price difference would be about $7, which I think is probably worth it.
I just thought of something: I don't have any canadian currency handy. If someone wants to buy gas for me in canada I will be happy to pay them back via payapl.
Now we could say let's compensate him 7$, but I say we get him some good Quebec beer instead ;)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 23 March 2015, 09:55:31
$100/gallon is quite excessive here (obvious sarcasm intended)
But at $1.2-1.3/litre it gets farly expensive
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 23 March 2015, 11:16:09
Thanks for all the advice, swill.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 26 March 2015, 07:27:04
Everyone is still good?
I'll be bringing a friend. He's kind of interested and has an MX blacks along with a code tkl with greens. He'll also be carrying my SSK.
Post by: JPG on Thu, 26 March 2015, 07:36:19
Post by: DeviAchariya on Thu, 26 March 2015, 09:16:25
I'm in Montreal.
Post by: Altis on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:00:24
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:03:49
Not sure what I can add. Monterey Blues and space invaders? KPT alps are unique, and 55g 87UW.
Would love to try all of those!
I don't have anything quite unique =S
Post by: Altis on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:16:15
Not sure what I can add. Monterey Blues and space invaders? KPT alps are unique, and 55g 87UW.
Would love to try all of those!
I don't have anything quite unique =S
The NMB should be restored by then. I've been meaning to build a new case for the Chicony as the switches are nice but the case is super tinny and hollow sounding. I think it'd be a nicer experience with a solid case.
If I'm lucky, I'll have the 87U with 45g uniform by then as well, but it's not that likely considering shipping to Canada.
If there's anything from my signature I should bring, let me know.
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:19:04
Not sure what I can add. Monterey Blues and space invaders? KPT alps are unique, and 55g 87UW.
Would love to try all of those!
I don't have anything quite unique =S
The NMB should be restored by then. I've been meaning to build a new case for the Chicony as the switches are nice but the case is super tinny and hollow sounding. I think it'd be a nicer experience with a solid case.
If I'm lucky, I'll have the 87U with 45g uniform by then as well, but it's not that likely considering shipping to Canada.
If there's anything from my signature I should bring, let me know.
are they clicky spaceinvaders or linear? I tried clicky for about 30 seconds at keycon and really want to try again.
AT-101 would be good too.
Post by: swill on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:24:54
Ohh! I just saw this now! Would this be during the day? I'd really like to participate. I have a Ducky Shine Mini with Cherry MX Blues and PBT DSA blank keycaps (and other caps if people would like to swap.)
I'm in Montreal.
Ya, during the day. I will post the actual address as we get a little closer to the date. Because of the trains, I will probably arrive at like 9:30 AM to unlock the place and I will have to leave by 5 PM. Not sure what time will work best for most people, but we probably want to focus on like a 3-4 hour block to try to get as many people together at the same time as possible.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:29:29
Not sure what I can add. Monterey Blues and space invaders? KPT alps are unique, and 55g 87UW.
Would love to try all of those!
I don't have anything quite unique =S
The NMB should be restored by then. I've been meaning to build a new case for the Chicony as the switches are nice but the case is super tinny and hollow sounding. I think it'd be a nicer experience with a solid case.
If I'm lucky, I'll have the 87U with 45g uniform by then as well, but it's not that likely considering shipping to Canada.
If there's anything from my signature I should bring, let me know.
I'm going to be bringing 45g regular and hipro
I've only owned cherry, topre (30/45) and model m.
Never got any alps or other vintage boards
Post by: Altis on Thu, 26 March 2015, 10:32:20
are they clicky spaceinvaders or linear? I tried clicky for about 30 seconds at keycon and really want to try again.
AT-101 would be good too.
I have two NMBs that are both clicky. Keep in mind that you can make any of the switches from clicky to linear by removing the little white piece from the switch (easy to do). Only the full-on tactile switches are different as they have a notch in the leaf contacts.
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 26 March 2015, 15:53:50
Post by: JPG on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:06:00
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:54:05
I can also bring my regular profile 45g topre realforce
And SSK
And cherry MX green
Post by: random_rockets on Thu, 02 April 2015, 22:58:41
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 03 April 2015, 21:23:52
I got my my winkeyless mini pcb+case but no switches yet. not sure if people wanna gawk at a naked keyboard, but willing to bring them if anyone wants (also got some clear acrylic screws custom ordered in)what switches do you need? I can bring my soldering iron and we'll build it there.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:03:43
Post by: random_rockets on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:55:22
I got my my winkeyless mini pcb+case but no switches yet. not sure if people wanna gawk at a naked keyboard, but willing to bring them if anyone wants (also got some clear acrylic screws custom ordered in)what switches do you need? I can bring my soldering iron and we'll build it there.
I have some gateron switches coming in from the GB, just waiting on those haha although we could probably solder some switches on and off if people wanna see a live demo haha
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:44:13
Post by: swill on Sun, 05 April 2015, 14:41:06
If no one has a preference I will be doing 65g browns.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:25:59
I am about to solder up a sprit board. What do you guys want to try? I have clears and browns on hand and the following springs 60, 62, 65, 68. I will probably lube and trampoline mod the switches (silicone ball inside stem).
If no one has a preference I will be doing 65g browns.
62g clears? xD
Post by: swill on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:30:38
If I do clears I will do 65 or 68 gram. I did 62g and I didn't like it because the key rebound was inhibited.I am about to solder up a sprit board. What do you guys want to try? I have clears and browns on hand and the following springs 60, 62, 65, 68. I will probably lube and trampoline mod the switches (silicone ball inside stem).
If no one has a preference I will be doing 65g browns.
62g clears? xD
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:51:34
I am about to solder up a sprit board. What do you guys want to try? I have clears and browns on hand and the following springs 60, 62, 65, 68. I will probably lube and trampoline mod the switches (silicone ball inside stem).
If no one has a preference I will be doing 65g browns.
I did 50g clears on my infinity and have been having serious issues with it. Too light I think.
I like 65g clears but that's just my preference. I am very interested to try out the trampoline mod regardless of switch type. I haven't tried 65g browns yet though so maybe I'll like them.
Can't wait!
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 06 April 2015, 01:03:08
Even using a 55g spring, without lube, the switch won't even reset without a keycap on.
Post by: random_rockets on Mon, 06 April 2015, 12:17:42
If I do clears I will do 65 or 68 gram. I did 62g and I didn't like it because the key rebound was inhibited.I am about to solder up a sprit board. What do you guys want to try? I have clears and browns on hand and the following springs 60, 62, 65, 68. I will probably lube and trampoline mod the switches (silicone ball inside stem).
If no one has a preference I will be doing 65g browns.
62g clears? xD
Just curiosity which 62g did you use? I have 62g springs fromt he Spritz GB waiting to mod into ergo-clear (hopefully I can this week, but work has been killing me ;( ) and wouldn't wanna do all that work for naught
Post by: swill on Mon, 06 April 2015, 12:41:22
I used sprit springs. I lubed my switches and I tend to do more grease than oil in my mix, so that could have played into it. Also, I was using SA caps, so they are heavier.If I do clears I will do 65 or 68 gram. I did 62g and I didn't like it because the key rebound was inhibited.I am about to solder up a sprit board. What do you guys want to try? I have clears and browns on hand and the following springs 60, 62, 65, 68. I will probably lube and trampoline mod the switches (silicone ball inside stem).
If no one has a preference I will be doing 65g browns.
62g clears? xD
Just curiosity which 62g did you use? I have 62g springs fromt he Spritz GB waiting to mod into ergo-clear (hopefully I can this week, but work has been killing me ;( ) and wouldn't wanna do all that work for naught
The switches worked fine, but I did notice a little lag as the switch topped out and it was enough for me to switch to 65g.
Post by: swill on Mon, 06 April 2015, 13:25:40
I am using the last of the browns I bought from you dorkvader. :)
Post by: swill on Mon, 06 April 2015, 13:38:56
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/06/17ce154e2d350c72afe27802baf421ce.jpg)
Post by: random_rockets on Mon, 06 April 2015, 14:01:07
Post by: swill on Mon, 06 April 2015, 16:41:40
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/06/94d378e171520f2ea97408021791b337.jpg)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:57:38
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:58:11
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:34:46
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 06 April 2015, 21:45:16
How nice of you guys to gather to celebrate on my birthday.
Will you be bringing the ibm alps KB in your signature? It'll save me from having to bring mine.
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 06 April 2015, 21:48:13
How nice of you guys to gather to celebrate on my birthday.
Will you be bringing the ibm alps KB in your signature? It'll save me from having to bring mine.
Nope :(. I live no where near Montreal unfortunately. I live in good ole Nebraska in the states. Just posted cuZ it happens to be on my birthday. Maybe someday I'll get to go to a meet up somewhere.
Post by: swill on Mon, 06 April 2015, 21:59:51
How nice of you guys to gather to celebrate on my birthday.We are meeting 1 day after my birthday. Mine is on the 10th. :)
My wife is considering this to be my birthday party. Haha
Post by: swill on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:03:24
Location: 420 rue Guy (map (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/420+Rue+Guy,+Montréal,+QC+H3J+1S6)) (and yes, I am serious). :P
I will be there pretty much all day, but if you guys can start to put some times in here of when you expect to show up we can start to isolated a time when we expect most people to be there...
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 08 April 2015, 09:57:54
I plan to be there at 1pm and I can stay as late as I want :cool:
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 08 April 2015, 12:50:24
Of course I'll need to get food and such.
I'll show up at the same time as others, whenever that happens to be.
I need to pack my luggage.
Post by: DeviAchariya on Wed, 08 April 2015, 12:51:53
Post by: JPG on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:00:42
Do you know of a good place to park a car for the day near the meetup? The closest that I know of is the one down McGill college street.
Post by: DeviAchariya on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:13:18
Post by: swill on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:26:50
Should be there around 9h30 am and free until around 5 pm.Right around the corner from the location is a parking lot which is free (from what I can tell). I parked there a few times when I drove to work and never had a problem.
Do you know of a good place to park a car for the day near the meetup? The closest that I know of is the one down McGill college street.
Here is a link to a map: http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27
Post by: swill on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:29:09
Post by: random_rockets on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:50:31
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:55:44
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:59:10
As the meetup is in Montreal, it seems appropriate.
Post by: JPG on Thu, 09 April 2015, 00:31:31
Should be there around 9h30 am and free until around 5 pm.Right around the corner from the location is a parking lot which is free (from what I can tell). I parked there a few times when I drove to work and never had a problem.
Do you know of a good place to park a car for the day near the meetup? The closest that I know of is the one down McGill college street.
Here is a link to a map: http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27 (http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27)
Ah nice, I think it's owned for the Richmond restaurant, but how can they tell?
I changed the title to make it 100% English :p
Also, are we going to call for some pizza or the likes? Yea I tend to think about important things first (like food) :thumb:
Post by: swill on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:38:22
Should be there around 9h30 am and free until around 5 pm.Right around the corner from the location is a parking lot which is free (from what I can tell). I parked there a few times when I drove to work and never had a problem.
Do you know of a good place to park a car for the day near the meetup? The closest that I know of is the one down McGill college street.
Here is a link to a map: http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27 (http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27)
Ah nice, I think it's owned for the Richmond restaurant, but how can they tell?
I changed the title to make it 100% English
Also, are we going to call for some pizza or the likes? Yea I tend to think about important things first (like food) :thumb:
Yes, the parking is for the restaurant, but they never fill it so they don't seem to care.
Yes, we can either order pizza or plan to go around the corner to Brasseur de Montréal for some food and a beer at a specific time (I would just stick a note on the door for how to get there if we do this). It is literally around the corner and they have really good food and beer.
http://goo.gl/maps/z0oa2
Post by: swill on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:55:17
Maybe add the address to the OP or put 420 Guy in the title for now?Should be there around 9h30 am and free until around 5 pm.Right around the corner from the location is a parking lot which is free (from what I can tell). I parked there a few times when I drove to work and never had a problem.
Do you know of a good place to park a car for the day near the meetup? The closest that I know of is the one down McGill college street.
Here is a link to a map: http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27 (http://goo.gl/maps/ygB27)
Ah nice, I think it's owned for the Richmond restaurant, but how can they tell?
I changed the title to make it 100% English
Also, are we going to call for some pizza or the likes? Yea I tend to think about important things first (like food) :thumb:
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 09 April 2015, 11:10:55
I won't get to the location till about 9:30am and I have to leave by 5:00pm to catch a train home, so that is our window... :)Let this not hamper our time.
I should be able to drive you both ways, depending on the distance and if oneproduct is riding with me or not (and wants to take a detour).
I'm going to start packing tonight. Hopefully I can get enough in my car by the time I leave.
Post by: ClackHead on Thu, 09 April 2015, 11:44:06
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:57:51
I won't get to the location till about 9:30am and I have to leave by 5:00pm to catch a train home, so that is our window... :)Let this not hamper our time.
I should be able to drive you both ways, depending on the distance and if oneproduct is riding with me or not (and wants to take a detour).
I'm going to start packing tonight. Hopefully I can get enough in my car by the time I leave.
I love how the problem is how much you'll be able to get into the car
I should be okay as long as I pack a luggage...
SSK, full sized topre, tkl topre, 40%
I feel like I have it easy
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:47:20
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:07:29
Post by: JPG on Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:10:14
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Post by: Sifo on Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:11:54
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:02:13
I think that's about 25-30 KBs. I forget which ones.
Drive to Toronto meet instead. :)
I checked and toronto is only about 10 hours from me.
Depending on how much vacation I can take I might be able to come.
Post by: swill on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:42:26
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/09/c30da03588b2b14f29bd75e73c2b3d7d.jpg)
I will be bringing a couple build projects in various stages of completion as well as a soldering station and all the fixins. If anyone wants to try their hand at soldering or is just interested in builds in general, I will be bringing some goodies.
Post by: JPG on Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:56:20
Also, do we just knock on the door when we get there? Pray that the god of keyboards is with us and arrive at the same time as Swill or just know the door open with my F-122? Tough choices.
Post by: swill on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:25:57
So it's tomorrow! Can't wait to see you all!The door will be locked all day, so just buzz and we will let you in. I won't be there before 9:30am, so you will be waiting if you arrive before then. :)
Also, do we just knock on the door when we get there? Pray that the god of keyboards is with us and arrive at the same time as Swill or just know the door open with my F-122? Tough choices.
Post by: swill on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:37:15
I won't get to the location till about 9:30am and I have to leave by 5:00pm to catch a train home, so that is our window... :)Let this not hamper our time.
I should be able to drive you both ways, depending on the distance and if oneproduct is riding with me or not (and wants to take a detour).
Sorry for not responding to your offer (previously as well). I am not very close. Its about 40 minutes on the train. I am basically at saint anne-de-bellevue, so its at the very end of the island (35km away).
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:51:47
I won't get to the location till about 9:30am and I have to leave by 5:00pm to catch a train home, so that is our window... :)Let this not hamper our time.
I should be able to drive you both ways, depending on the distance and if oneproduct is riding with me or not (and wants to take a detour).
Sorry for not responding to your offer (previously as well). I am not very close. Its about 40 minutes on the train. I am basically at saint anne-de-bellevue, so its at the very end of the island (35km away).
How are you getting down? =0
I'm in Kirkland
Post by: swill on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:36:12
I dropped off everything today, so I am just taking the train.I won't get to the location till about 9:30am and I have to leave by 5:00pm to catch a train home, so that is our window... :)Let this not hamper our time.
I should be able to drive you both ways, depending on the distance and if oneproduct is riding with me or not (and wants to take a detour).
Sorry for not responding to your offer (previously as well). I am not very close. Its about 40 minutes on the train. I am basically at saint anne-de-bellevue, so its at the very end of the island (35km away).
How are you getting down? =0
I'm in Kirkland
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 11 April 2015, 01:17:24
Though not looking forward to the exam tomorrow
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:40:48
Alright, we are close enough to the date to give out the location.
Location: 420 rue Guy (map (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/420+Rue+Guy,+Montr�al,+QC+H3J+1S6)) (and yes, I am serious). :P
I will be there pretty much all day, but if you guys can start to put some times in here of when you expect to show up we can start to isolated a time when we expect most people to be there...
We expect to be there in 20 minutes or so
30 kbs in car
Post by: swill on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:41:45
K. Pull up in front and we will unload and then you can park.Alright, we are close enough to the date to give out the location.
Location: 420 rue Guy (map (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/420+Rue+Guy,+Montr�al,+QC+H3J+1S6)) (and yes, I am serious).
I will be there pretty much all day, but if you guys can start to put some times in here of when you expect to show up we can start to isolated a time when we expect most people to be there...
We expect to be there in 20 minutes or so
30 kbs in car
Post by: ClackHead on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:43:14
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 11 April 2015, 10:28:38
Post by: JPG on Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:52:06
One of the great things of this meetup, other than just be able to talk to everyone about keyboards and stuff, was to be able to try all these different keyboards. Before this meeting, I only had tried mx brown (filco) and model F. Here's my impression on the different boards I tried:
Hall effect: These just feel so damn nice and their sound (bottom out) is just amazing. I don't think I would like them for typing since they are linear, but for gaming these would be awesome.
Beamsping: I had great expectations for this keyboard. It ends up it's just not for me. The sound is truly amazing, but the switches are too soft and too wobbly for my personnal taste.
Topre: I am glad I have tried them. They feel high quality, but they are WAY too soft and too smooth and cushioned for my taste. I can see how someone would like them, but they are almost the opposite of what I like in a switch. One positive thing is that they don't wobble.
Alps: There were not many alps, mainly the japanese ibm one that Dorkvader likes a lot. To me, it's a nice keyboard that just feels inferior to my model F (I am biased towards the model F). But for the cost of the keyboard, I admit it's a very nice option.
Model M: I was glad to try a few model M. I wanted to verify if the model F is that better than the M as is often said. While the M feels good, it confimed to me that the model F just feels much better.
Cherry: I liked my cherry brown filco. I still like it but I am now in love with the F and can't go back to cherry. But if I had to, well stock clears would be my choice. I prefered the stock clears over the 62g clears. But I admit that I got used to heavier switches because of the F so it might be the main reason for this. I also like the black switch a lot and have been impressed by the feeling of a wyse keyboard with blacks. Also, the trampoline mod from Swill was nice, but it had such a sh6rot travel and I like having quite a lot of travel so it was just not for me.
Model F: I have been in love with the F for about a year. I didn't have much to compare it to but it felt just awesome. After trying all these different keyboards with different switches, I am happy to now know that the model F is definitely my favorite keyboard/switch. It's a very very good thing for my budget. Well, until I can transform my Xt's to reverse TKL layout with wcass project!
Ergonomics: I was happy to try different ergo keyboards and non-staggered keyboards. I think that I would still prefer a non split keyboard if I need to use the mouse, but for pure typing they would be very nice. I also think that I could get used pretty fast to non-staggered keyboards. I would have a hard time with a few keys for a time, but the fact that the keys are one above the other just feels more normal for my brain. I just don't know if I would want to make the jump or not. I also tried the hand-rest that has a mouse on a bar buit in and if it was not for the price I would probably get one. But I think that I would still prefer to invest on making a reverse TKL layout to simply have the mouse more aligned with my arm.
As for the eyes, well there was some keyboard porn:
First, the F with the metal case (the one super super wide similar to the kishsaver) had such an awesome case and paint job. That's a real beauty.
Second, Swill had a brass case that was just epic. It's time to forget aluminium and titanium and get real with brass on GH.
Also, the Miami set just looks very nice and super shiny like if it was summer all the time.
I also want to mention that my brain was just complety exhausted for having to focus on speaking and listening to English all day long. I am quite bilingual, but I NEVER speak it and almost never listen to conversations in English for a long time (longer is a movie or tv show usually). But it was also a nice experience in itself!
So I want to conclude by saying that this meeting was a LOT of fun and that I will be happy to attend another one if I can!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:53:57
Post by: random_rockets on Sat, 11 April 2015, 21:12:06
Beamspring is so great I really want one now :P
Pics will follow tomorrow morning.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sun, 12 April 2015, 10:05:17
Oh wait I took most of them
Hehe, exam time
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:36
Main take aways for me:
1) I now really want a Model F
2) I like heavy switches, but not 120g spring heavy
3) I think I'm going to get a 55g Topre board
4) I should start working on some custom board designs
5) My GB's better all come in before the next meet up!
6) Everyone should keep a LightSaver at their bedside for home defence
7) "Fvck stickering, dude" :))
Post by: ClackHead on Sun, 12 April 2015, 14:06:54
I really didn't think I was going to get such a positive reaction to the idea when I threw it out there. You guys really took it upon yourselves to make it a great gathering.
There was such a huge selection of exceptional, unique and incredibly rare boards to try.
Thank you Thank you Thank you.
P.S. I hope the pizza was good :)
Post by: random_rockets on Sun, 12 April 2015, 22:33:47
Images will pop here once uploaded. I just got this camera from a friend so the pics are not so great quality, but hope it gives a good idea of the crazy catalog of keyboards there were.
En résumé,
1) I need a lightsaver, for self defence and for typing!
2) Beamspring is one of my favorite so far
3) Topre 55g no more
4) I need a thumbstick on my keyboard
5) Model Fs are great!
6) You folks are great company!
7) Edit: I need a keyboard with the hall effect spacebar. SO NICE
Too bad I will miss the next meet-up in june, but I'll be in JP so hopefully I can bring back some interesting keyboards :)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 22:49:02
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 12 April 2015, 23:03:18
Post by: JPG on Sun, 12 April 2015, 23:13:37
YO SEND ON THE MANDOLIN CRYSTAL
This one?
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Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:35:33
https://imgur.com/a/bQsVb (https://imgur.com/a/bQsVb)
Images will pop here once uploaded. I just got this camera from a friend so the pics are not so great quality, but hope it gives a good idea of the crazy catalog of keyboards there were.
En résumé,
1) I need a lightsaver, for self defence and for typing!
2) Beamspring is one of my favorite so far
3) Topre 55g no more
4) I need a thumbstick on my keyboard
5) Model Fs are great!
6) You folks are great company!
7) Edit: I need a keyboard with the hall effect spacebar. SO NICE
Too bad I will miss the next meet-up in june, but I'll be in JP so hopefully I can bring back some interesting keyboards :)
Woo, thanks for the upload! Let me know how many HHKBs you can smuggle back ;)
Post by: random_rockets on Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:50:29
Post by: s0nia on Tue, 14 April 2015, 22:31:55
Post by: JPG on Wed, 15 April 2015, 08:16:40
Dangnabbit, can't believe I missed this! :(
CaptainBadass (famous member) is supposed to come to Montreal on June and there's supposed to be another meetup when he comes. Stay tuned on GH if you don't want to miss it!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 April 2015, 08:29:44
If this is Hall Effect, I really want it. mmmmmm, It's even nicer than that HE numpad with the highly painted surface!
And please put nicer caps on that Skeldon dorkvader!
Thanks for the pictures :D
https://imgur.com/a/bQsVb (https://imgur.com/a/bQsVb)
Images will pop here once uploaded. I just got this camera from a friend so the pics are not so great quality, but hope it gives a good idea of the crazy catalog of keyboards there were.
En r�sum�,
1) I need a lightsaver, for self defence and for typing!
2) Beamspring is one of my favorite so far
3) Topre 55g no more
4) I need a thumbstick on my keyboard
5) Model Fs are great!
6) You folks are great company!
7) Edit: I need a keyboard with the hall effect spacebar. SO NICE
Too bad I will miss the next meet-up in june, but I'll be in JP so hopefully I can bring back some interesting keyboards :)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 17 April 2015, 14:03:44
That's my set of pictures.
I have that video of people typing on various keyboards as well as that video of swill doing all his soldering and such.
Also I owe swill something the next time I see him
(http://i.imgur.com/eBGkHpY.jpg)
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 April 2015, 20:49:17
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FclL4Nn.jpg)
If this is Hall Effect, I really want it. mmmmmm, It's even nicer than that HE numpad with the highly painted surface!
Yep hall effect. tripleshots. latching "keyboard lock" switch.
I happen to have two of them. This is the one I haven't cleaned the caps on yet.
The other one is a full on video editor computer system from the early 1980's. since it weighs about 30 lbs i left it at home this time.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157639678586953/
(add that to the list of kb pics to re shoot)
Post by: JPG on Fri, 17 April 2015, 21:35:55
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FclL4Nn.jpg)
If this is Hall Effect, I really want it. mmmmmm, It's even nicer than that HE numpad with the highly painted surface!
Yep hall effect. tripleshots. latching "keyboard lock" switch.
I happen to have two of them. This is the one I haven't cleaned the caps on yet.
The other one is a full on video editor computer system from the early 1980's. since it weighs about 30 lbs i left it at home this time.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157639678586953/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157639678586953/)
(add that to the list of kb pics to re shoot)
Holy mother of keyboards, that thing is a beast! BTW, what do you use to clean them? Any product in specific for the pcb or the switches?
Also, nice pictures everyone!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 22:00:12
Dangnabbit, can't believe I missed this! :(
CaptainBadass (famous member) is supposed to come to Montreal on June and there's supposed to be another meetup when he comes. Stay tuned on GH if you don't want to miss it!
Lol i dunno about famous. Maybe #3 spammer on Geekhack but thank you for the kind words. I've confirmed I'll be in MTL in June and I've told swill. I'll leave it to him with how he'd like to proceed.
Post by: JPG on Fri, 17 April 2015, 22:03:45
Dangnabbit, can't believe I missed this! :(
CaptainBadass (famous member) is supposed to come to Montreal on June and there's supposed to be another meetup when he comes. Stay tuned on GH if you don't want to miss it!
Lol i dunno about famous. Maybe #3 spammer on Geekhack but thank you for the kind words. I've confirmed I'll be in MTL in June and I've told swill. I'll leave it to him with how he'd like to proceed.
What date are you coming? I am out of country from 9 to 16 approximately so if it's not in these dates I will do my best to attend!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 22:05:00
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 April 2015, 22:46:34
Holy mother of keyboards, that thing is a beast! BTW, what do you use to clean them? Any product in specific for the pcb or the switches?
Also, nice pictures everyone!
i use non alcohol wet wipes. they are "off brand" and cheaper. I got non alcohol by mistake and haven't used them all yet. i just sit down with something to clean every time i watch tv\
i'll make a note to weigh the bigger brother when i take it out to photo.
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 18 April 2015, 00:33:05
http://imgur.com/a/HtuSU
That's my set of pictures.
I have that video of people typing on various keyboards as well as that video of swill doing all his soldering and such.
Also I owe swill something the next time I see himShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/eBGkHpY.jpg)
OMG how did you make that? Is it a chording keyboard or a datahand prototype?
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 18 April 2015, 02:52:53
http://imgur.com/a/HtuSU
That's my set of pictures.
I have that video of people typing on various keyboards as well as that video of swill doing all his soldering and such.
Also I owe swill something the next time I see himShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/eBGkHpY.jpg)
OMG how did you make that? Is it a chording keyboard or a datahand prototype?
Originally meant for 1 handed chording.
Might see what fun applications I can make with both together. Just need the teensy+coding and I'm all set =)
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 April 2015, 16:10:44
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FclL4Nn.jpg)
If this is Hall Effect, I really want it. mmmmmm, It's even nicer than that HE numpad with the highly painted surface!
I re shot pictures of the "bigger brother" texscan unit (with clean keycaps) here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157651603359937/
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7665/17017778639_d1d524d23d_o.jpg)
Still trying to figure out how to get the full res from my new phone
weight of unit is 19 lbs 7 oz = 8800 g
weight of the unit at canada: 7 lbs = 3200 g
weight of the green / yellow one is 7lbs 7 oz = 3370 g
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 16:25:59
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 April 2015, 19:26:27
Yummy. And why not just setup dropbox on your phone so it shoots it to your DropBox right when you take the pictures?
because then i have to download them off dropbox and upload them to flickr. i am using onedrive now and this is the problem. i think the best is to sync the photos to my computer automatically when i plug it in and then upload them from there.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:25:02
Post by: JPG on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:56:56
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FclL4Nn.jpg)
If this is Hall Effect, I really want it. mmmmmm, It's even nicer than that HE numpad with the highly painted surface!
I re shot pictures of the "bigger brother" texscan unit (with clean keycaps) here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157651603359937/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157651603359937/)Show Image(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7665/17017778639_d1d524d23d_o.jpg)
Still trying to figure out how to get the full res from my new phone
weight of unit is 19 lbs 7 oz = 8800 g
weight of the unit at canada: 7 lbs = 3200 g
weight of the green / yellow one is 7lbs 7 oz = 3370 g
When your keyboard has a fan, you're in business. Serious business.
Also, how do the angled keys feel? Are they as smooth as the non-angled ones?
And do you know if the Hall Effect switches have the part that changes the high/low values of the sensor into an on/off signal inside the switch or if this job is done by the controller?
Anyway, badass keyboard, badass keycaps, just sad it's so damn big!
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:16:27
The Flickr app will do auto uploads like Dropbox as well.
that's what i used to do
When your keyboard has a fan, you're in business. Serious business.the kb unit itself is the same as the one i brought with me. both it and the green one with yellow function keys have angled stems. in fact i think all hall effect with sculpted profile have angled stems. the keys are more scratchy than the one i brought since it's more used and i haven't cleaned the switches yet (corrosionx is supposed to work wonders)
Also, how do the angled keys feel? Are they as smooth as the non-angled ones?
And do you know if the Hall Effect switches have the part that changes the high/low values of the sensor into an on/off signal inside the switch or if this job is done by the controller?
Anyway, badass keyboard, badass keycaps, just sad it's so damn big!
all the high / low sensing (and debounce) is handled by the sensor itself. it output about 3v when pressed which is brought to 5v by pullup resistors. some boards are 5v unpressed and pull down to 0v when pressed but that is all handled by the kb hardware (outside switch and before controller)
sadly most of these kbs are set up as 1kro, though some strobe the colums for nkro.
Post by: JPG on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:32:38
The Flickr app will do auto uploads like Dropbox as well.
there is no flickr app for my phoneWhen your keyboard has a fan, you're in business. Serious business.the kb unit itself is the same as the one i brought with me. both it and the green one with yellow function keys have angled stems. in fact i think all hall effect with sculpted profile have angled stems. the keys are more scratchy than the one i brought since it's more used and i haven't cleaned the switches yet (corrosionx is supposed to work wonders)
Also, how do the angled keys feel? Are they as smooth as the non-angled ones?
And do you know if the Hall Effect switches have the part that changes the high/low values of the sensor into an on/off signal inside the switch or if this job is done by the controller?
Anyway, badass keyboard, badass keycaps, just sad it's so damn big!
all the high / low sensing (and debounce) is handled by the sensor itself. it output about 3v when pressed which is brought to 5v by pullup resistors. some boards are 5v unpressed and pull down to 0v when pressed but that is all handled by the kb hardware (outside switch and before controller)
sadly most of these kbs are set up as 1kro, though some strobe the colums for nkro.
Oh so it's handled on the pcb. I am curious because I watched a few video on youtube about hall effect sensors and in some of them there's an included part that reacts to the high/low property of the sensor and converts the high/low to on/off (if I understood right). But on another video, the guy mentions that this is irrelevant if plugged in a controller because the controller can decide to do whatever he wants with the signal.
I am pretty new to electronics but by knowing that, I assume that the controller can detect the voltage that comes back and then a programmer could decide to do whatever he wants with the signal. I didn't know such a thing but if it's true that would make it much easier to make a controller work for Hall Effect. All you would need to do is to wire all the switches with a traditional row/columns setup with diodes and scan the current column by column and then all the controller would need to do compared to a normal mech keyboard would be to convert the high/low value to on/off and pass the signal to the standard code.
I really need to start reading about these teensies lol!
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 20 April 2015, 21:42:14
Oh so it's handled on the pcb. I am curious because I watched a few video on youtube about hall effect sensors and in some of them there's an included part that reacts to the high/low property of the sensor and converts the high/low to on/off (if I understood right). But on another video, the guy mentions that this is irrelevant if plugged in a controller because the controller can decide to do whatever he wants with the signal.
I am pretty new to electronics but by knowing that, I assume that the controller can detect the voltage that comes back and then a programmer could decide to do whatever he wants with the signal. I didn't know such a thing but if it's true that would make it much easier to make a controller work for Hall Effect. All you would need to do is to wire all the switches with a traditional row/columns setup with diodes and scan the current column by column and then all the controller would need to do compared to a normal mech keyboard would be to convert the high/low value to on/off and pass the signal to the standard code.
I really need to start reading about these teensies lol!
yeah, i gave a talk on them at keycon last summer but it was pretty dry. one of these days, i'll write up a thing on them but not right now.
to get an idea of how it works and how it debounces, look up the drawings at the end of this article http://deskthority.net/wiki/Honeywell_Hall_Effect and especially the hallbook i found http://sensing.honeywell.com/index.php?ci_id=47847
now the hallbook is about hall sensors in general but the beginning is all theory that explains it well, and the last 80 or so pages are applications (non kb related for the most part.)
the debounce is handled by a schmitt trigger. basically there's the hall element, the "balance" transistors (that amplify the difference), and the schmitt trigger that adds hysterisis and debounce, then the output pins.
so it's almost all handled by the hall sensor itself, leaving the controller to do the really easy task of determining if there's 5v or not there. this was a big deal in 1968 when processing things like debounce was a lot harder than it is today.
if you're interested in it, i'd love to chat sometime. i really like these hall switches and i want to get these kbs working!
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:09:42
Can't seem to find it and I know I brought my granite set with me...
Post by: swill on Tue, 28 April 2015, 11:19:47
Nobody happened to find a granite X key did they?
Can't seem to find it and I know I brought my granite set with me...
It has not turned up here at the office. :( I will keep an eye out for it though...
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 April 2015, 11:22:28
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 28 April 2015, 11:26:12
If there's anyone who wants to hang out while I'm in the MTL, I should be in town 6/7 - 6/13 or 6/14. Someone should take me retro video game hunting...just saying ;).
I'll definitely meet up!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 April 2015, 11:43:20
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:47:31
Are there any cool audiophile stores to check out GL1TCH3D? Would love to check out some new gear.
Of course of course
There's Layton audio, my personal favorite. Lots of variety for the personal audio lover (headphones).
There's Son Ideal which deals mostly with mid end speakers
Then there's audioshop for high end speaker systems and a small collection of headphones. Up until this year they were the only ones carrying Stax in Montreal (and probably one of a handful in Canada) but Layton recently took their spot.
Of course I can accompany you to those. The owners of Layton are very picky people, they don't like people trying the higher end stuff with no intention of buying, even if you know them and such. The owners/employees at audio shop are much more lenient in that respect and as long as you're friendly / know your stuff they'll let you try.
There's also MaxAudio but I hate the owner and he hates me. It's too bad about the timing because I'm aiming for an audio meet mid August.
Post by: s0nia on Wed, 06 May 2015, 23:24:10
If there's anyone who wants to hang out while I'm in the MTL, I should be in town 6/7 - 6/13 or 6/14. Someone should take me retro video game hunting...just saying ;).
I could take you retro video game hunting :D It's one of my favourite pastimes!
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:05:45
Nobody happened to find a granite X key did they?
Can't seem to find it and I know I brought my granite set with me...
I've been out of the country so I'll double check my stuff tonight. I can give you the alpha colored 'ANY KEY' if you like? :)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:19:27
Nobody happened to find a granite X key did they?
Can't seem to find it and I know I brought my granite set with me...
I've been out of the country so I'll double check my stuff tonight. I can give you the alpha colored 'ANY KEY' if you like? :)
But the X key ain't just ANY KEY =P
SP sent me a replacement X key at least so I'm not too worried
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 May 2015, 16:13:47
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 29 May 2015, 23:27:33
Montreal fam, I'll be in your lovely city next week. Who wants to eat poutine, beavertails, and ice cream with me?
Mememememe!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:07:53