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Title: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:14:29
What's a classy choice... sides Jack..
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:15:23
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:16:01
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_118_.gif)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:18:42
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:22:12
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:26:32
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Completely untrue...I'm an adult...with kids...I use my keyboards everyday and never get drunk.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:29:08
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Completely untrue...I'm an adult...with kids...I use my keyboards everyday and never get drunk.

I didn't mean it literally.. I just mean, they go to work, and then come home and escape to some sort of vice.

for you, perhaps that's keyboards.



Anyway.. back on topic... a liquor/ American / preferably expensive.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:31:54
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Completely untrue...I'm an adult...with kids...I use my keyboards everyday and never get drunk.

I didn't mean it literally.. I just mean, they go to work, and then come home and escape to some sort of vice.

for you, perhaps that's keyboards.



Anyway.. back on topic... a liquor/ American / preferably expensive.

No my keyboards are at work :(

But why does it have to be expensive?
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:35:00
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Completely untrue...I'm an adult...with kids...I use my keyboards everyday and never get drunk.

I didn't mean it literally.. I just mean, they go to work, and then come home and escape to some sort of vice.

for you, perhaps that's keyboards.



Anyway.. back on topic... a liquor/ American / preferably expensive.

No my keyboards are at work :(

But why does it have to be expensive?

"preferably", not absolute.

preferably, because the expensive ones usually have a nicer looking bottle.. it's all about packaging when it comes to gifts..
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:36:49
TP just get something from here

http://coolmaterial.com/gift-guide/?price=6
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:38:41
And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Ah, so that's what I've been doing wrong. I keep forgetting to drink to forget. I'll make a sticky note on that.

Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: osi on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:40:24
Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:41:26
TP just get something from here

http://coolmaterial.com/gift-guide/?price=6

these don't seem like gifts you give to other people.. it'd make them uncomfortable about reciprocation...

it just looks like a list of expensive things.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:42:24
Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:42:49
TP just get something from here

http://coolmaterial.com/gift-guide/?price=6

these don't seem like gifts you give to other people.. it'd make them uncomfortable about reciprocation...

it just looks like a list of expensive things.

So you want to drink some expensive american made liquor but you don't want to buy it for yourself, but if you buy it for someone else you're thinking they will share with you. I understand.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:43:42
Done

Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:45:15
TP just get something from here

http://coolmaterial.com/gift-guide/?price=6

these don't seem like gifts you give to other people.. it'd make them uncomfortable about reciprocation...

it just looks like a list of expensive things.

So you want to drink some expensive american made liquor but you don't want to buy it for yourself, but if you buy it for someone else you're thinking they will share with you. I understand.

This won't be for me at all.. 

Personally I am on svedka.. that's it... i'm done.. i am not drinking anything else for the rest of my life... I've decided.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:46:14
Glenleven scotch is a good choice. The older the better, but that really depends on your budget. Also Ron Zacapa 23 year is a good choice if they like rum.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:49:20
What state do you live in? Here in WA there are a lot of great locally made spirits. High quality Absinthe, 'Moonshine', Vodka etc.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:51:09
Glenleven scotch is a good choice. The older the better, but that really depends on your budget. Also Ron Zacapa 23 year is a good choice if they like rum.

LOL.. thx for those recs wildcard...

Glen is Scottish
Zacapa is Guatemalan

I need 'Murica   (North America)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: osi on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:51:39
Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..

Get ahold of some moonshine or some peach brandy. Definitely not snobbish there  :thumb:
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:52:02
What state do you live in? Here in WA there are a lot of great locally made spirits. High quality Absinthe, 'Moonshine', Vodka etc.

I in NJ.. bit far..
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:52:31
Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..

Get ahold of some moonshine or some peach brandy. Definitely not snobbish there  :thumb:

Hmmmmm... I do like the moonshine concept.. seems very 'Murican..
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:22:54
Pendleton, one of the finest American Canadian-Whiskeys :P
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:27:45
Glenleven scotch is a good choice. The older the better, but that really depends on your budget. Also Ron Zacapa 23 year is a good choice if they like rum.

LOL.. thx for those recs wildcard...

Glen is Scottish
Zacapa is Guatemalan

I need 'Murica   (North America)
Oops, I was just thinking gifts.

Templeton Rye - There's your 'Murica.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:43:45
I enjoy Buffalo Trace when I don't wanna drink scotch.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: iri on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:52:33
Done
not sure if this bread part is necessary.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 22 January 2014, 11:05:54
Evan Williams is my favorite liquor, good old American Bourbon.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: ekw808 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 11:43:10
Johnnie Blue
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 22 January 2014, 11:45:28
What's more American than some moonshine? :D

A bottle of gentleman Jack is always nice.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 22 January 2014, 11:56:26
Pappy. if you can find it.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:25:55
Johnnie Blue

I've found blue label tastes best served neat in a sippy cup

(http://i.imgur.com/EKgAYkg.jpg)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:28:10
(http://crnchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mama-walkers-breakfast-liquor.jpg)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:54:01
What's more American than some moonshine? :D

They sell this brand of moonshine around the Seattle area that is super dangerous. It's like 55% and seriously tastes like nothing and is sold in these mason jars. Even vodka has a taste to me(like rubbing alcohol,) but this stuff just becomes whatever soda you mix into it. Liquid panty remover OR the fast route for a night to (never) remember.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:58:43
What's more American than some moonshine? :D

They sell this brand of moonshine around the Seattle area that is super dangerous. It's like 55% and seriously tastes like nothing and is sold in these mason jars. Even vodka has a taste to me(like rubbing alcohol,) but this stuff just becomes whatever soda you mix into it. Liquid panty remover OR the fast route for a night to (never) remember.

That explains that house coat thread.....:P
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: eth0s on Wed, 22 January 2014, 13:01:10
Why does the liquor have to be American made? 

I would recommend a nice single malt scotch that's made in Scotland.  One of my favorites, that would be in your price range, is the Balvenie Doublewood 12 y.o.

(http://www.whisky-online.com/images/products/239-1244balvenie12yearolddoublewoodbox.jpg)

If your gift has to be American, because you are giving it to a Republican or Tea Party person, then I would suggest California Cabernet.  Go American red wine, instead of liquor, since there are no really excellent American liquors.

But you would do well with a nice bottle of California Cab.  Or better yet, a case.  That would make anybody happy if you gave it as a gift.  Just remember, politicians have to declare any gift over $50, so make sure your Republican friends file the proper paperwork.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 22 January 2014, 14:24:47
Why does the liquor have to be American made? 

I would recommend a nice single malt scotch that's made in Scotland.  One of my favorites, that would be in your price range, is the Balvenie Doublewood 12 y.o.

Show Image
(http://www.whisky-online.com/images/products/239-1244balvenie12yearolddoublewoodbox.jpg)


If your gift has to be American, because you are giving it to a Republican or Tea Party person, then I would suggest California Cabernet.  Go American red wine, instead of liquor, since there are no really excellent American liquors.

But you would do well with a nice bottle of California Cab.  Or better yet, a case.  That would make anybody happy if you gave it as a gift.  Just remember, politicians have to declare any gift over $50, so make sure your Republican friends file the proper paperwork.


You taking the piss mate?  There are too great American Liquors.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 22 January 2014, 14:35:39
What's more American than some moonshine? :D

They sell this brand of moonshine around the Seattle area that is super dangerous. It's like 55% and seriously tastes like nothing and is sold in these mason jars. Even vodka has a taste to me(like rubbing alcohol,) but this stuff just becomes whatever soda you mix into it. Liquid panty remover OR the fast route for a night to (never) remember.

Me wants. Imagine the delicious and dangerous smoothies one could make with that!
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: JPG on Wed, 22 January 2014, 15:20:39
Not american, but the el dorado 12 year rum is a very good choice.


Else, I find it pleasant to receive an alcool that is less common. Recently, I received some hydromel (mead) and I also tried some absinthe (named La clandestine). If they want to get stunned, absinthe is the best thing ever. No other alcool will give the same feeling. Not saying that the purpose is to get stunned, but even if you only take a little and dilute it, the feeling you get can't be compared with other alcools.


As for cool bottle, the Vodka skull bottle is hard to beat!


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In the end, it could be wise to get them an alcool they like or something that they have probably never tried!
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 22 January 2014, 16:10:30
Colt45 isn't hard enough for you?  ;)

Personally I am on svedka.. that's it... i'm done.. i am not drinking anything else for the rest of my life... I've decided.
I'm Swedish and have never heard of it. I think it must be something sub-par that is made only for export, like Asians and their noodles.
When Swedes drink schnaps, it is often flavoured with spices. O.P.Anderson is I think the name of the most popular brand of spiced vodka.

Other than vodka, if you want hard liqueur that is somewhat sophisticated, you drink either Scotch Whisky, Irish Whiskey or French Cognac. Anything else is just imitation.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: iri on Wed, 22 January 2014, 16:34:15
something sub-par that is made only for export, like Asians and their noodles
...so asians can have no problems making sub-par electronic devices for swedes and their meatballs?
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Novus on Wed, 22 January 2014, 17:22:57
Pappy van winkle.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 17:26:12
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Completely untrue...I'm an adult...with kids...I use my keyboards everyday and never get drunk.

I didn't mean it literally.. I just mean, they go to work, and then come home and escape to some sort of vice.

for you, perhaps that's keyboards.



Anyway.. back on topic... a liquor/ American / preferably expensive.

Well, the official spirit of the US is Bourbon. Pappy Van Winkle is the most expensive you can get if you can find it. I wouldn't waste my time or money trying to find any. There is a big difference in flavor profiles. From really sweet to really spicy. What do you think they like?

Old Weller Antique and Weller 12 are wheated bourbons that are sweeter. Four Roses Single Barrel and Blanton's are ryed bourbons that are still sweet but spicier than wheaters. Straight Rye Whiskey is typically much drier and spicier and best in cocktails.

Blanton's
Elmer T. Lee
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selections at barrel proof (my favorite)
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr. (if you can find it)
Booker's

Are all very good Bourbons and are around $50. The Elmer T. Lee is close to $30 and is excellent. A great balance between sweet and spice.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 17:36:02
Colt45 isn't hard enough for you?  ;)

Personally I am on svedka.. that's it... i'm done.. i am not drinking anything else for the rest of my life... I've decided.
I'm Swedish and have never heard of it. I think it must be something sub-par that is made only for export, like Asians and their noodles.
When Swedes drink schnaps, it is often flavoured with spices. O.P.Anderson is I think the name of the most popular brand of spiced vodka.

Other than vodka, if you want hard liqueur that is somewhat sophisticated, you drink either Scotch Whisky, Irish Whiskey or French Cognac. Anything else is just imitation.

Honestly I had no idea svedka was from sweden.. I just drink it because it's cheap, doesn't give me a stomach ache, and gets me drunk..

Oh I see now, the swedish flag, and it says sweden on the front of the bottle, LOL

I've never read the bottle carefullly.. I always assumed it said svedka under the flag, not sweden..

And unlike sheldon, I don't know my flags...(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_118_.gif)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 January 2014, 17:37:57
TP are you throwing a party? Is it your birthday?

no.. I'm in desperate need of gift ideas.  hallllp........

keyboards make good gifts....

unless your actually trying to bribe someone.... :o

I would if they were kids... but they're adults.


And it is my understanding that adults just go to work, then go home and to get drunk and forget...

I can't think of any other gift..

Completely untrue...I'm an adult...with kids...I use my keyboards everyday and never get drunk.

I didn't mean it literally.. I just mean, they go to work, and then come home and escape to some sort of vice.

for you, perhaps that's keyboards.



Anyway.. back on topic... a liquor/ American / preferably expensive.

Well, the official spirit of the US is Bourbon. Pappy Van Winkle is the most expensive you can get if you can find it. I wouldn't waste my time or money trying to find any. There is a big difference in flavor profiles. From really sweet to really spicy. What do you think they like?

Old Weller Antique and Weller 12 are wheated bourbons that are sweeter. Four Roses Single Barrel and Blanton's are ryed bourbons that are still sweet but spicier than wheaters. Straight Rye Whiskey is typically much drier and spicier and best in cocktails.

Blanton's
Elmer T. Lee
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selections at barrel proof (my favorite)
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr. (if you can find it)
Booker's

Are all very good Bourbons and are around $50. The Elmer T. Lee is close to $30 and is excellent. A great balance between sweet and spice.

thx smkjoe for the detailed recs.. i will see if i can find these
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 17:42:56
No problem. I'm actually a member of a couple of different (American) whiskey clubs. So, I like nerding out about it sometimes. :)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 22 January 2014, 22:03:53
Colt45 isn't hard enough for you?  ;)

Personally I am on svedka.. that's it... i'm done.. i am not drinking anything else for the rest of my life... I've decided.
I'm Swedish and have never heard of it. I think it must be something sub-par that is made only for export, like Asians and their noodles.
When Swedes drink schnaps, it is often flavoured with spices. O.P.Anderson is I think the name of the most popular brand of spiced vodka.

Other than vodka, if you want hard liqueur that is somewhat sophisticated, you drink either Scotch Whisky, Irish Whiskey or French Cognac. Anything else is just imitation.

You sound very snooty.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 23:15:16
Why does the liquor have to be American made? 

I would recommend a nice single malt scotch that's made in Scotland.  One of my favorites, that would be in your price range, is the Balvenie Doublewood 12 y.o.

Show Image
(http://www.whisky-online.com/images/products/239-1244balvenie12yearolddoublewoodbox.jpg)


If your gift has to be American, because you are giving it to a Republican or Tea Party person, then I would suggest California Cabernet.  Go American red wine, instead of liquor, since there are no really excellent American liquors.

But you would do well with a nice bottle of California Cab.  Or better yet, a case.  That would make anybody happy if you gave it as a gift.  Just remember, politicians have to declare any gift over $50, so make sure your Republican friends file the proper paperwork.


I agree with everything other than the wine.  Republicans don't drink wine, that's for the librullz, so get a case of Currs laht(Coors light).  Balvenie 12 y/o is the best value for awesome Scotch, or if you want to get fancy the 21 y/o is worth every penny.  Johny Walker Blue is highly overrated.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 January 2014, 00:01:16
Everclear.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 00:15:04
The majority of the replies have been for Scotch, which is made in Scotland.

The only official spirit of the US is bourbon...which I like much better than scotch and it's all natural. No coloring or flavoring is allowed at all and it doesn't taste like iodine, brine, and ashtrays all mixed together. You get lots of vanilla, caramel, butterscotch, toffee, and some peppery spice in some varieties.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: LONGZILLA on Thu, 23 January 2014, 00:59:10
The majority of the replies have been for Scotch, which is made in Scotland.

The only official spirit of the US is bourbon...which I like much better than scotch and it's all natural. No coloring or flavoring is allowed at all and it doesn't taste like iodine, brine, and ashtrays all mixed together. You get lots of vanilla, caramel, butterscotch, toffee, and some peppery spice in some varieties.

Good story. I'll continue to drink scotch and drive my Japanese manufactured car :)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 01:14:49
What part is made up? Besides perceived taste which is different for everyone, and you have every right to not agree with, that is all fact.

Edit: and what does your car have to do with bourbon? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 23 January 2014, 01:42:52
Moonshine, Professionally bottled so you know they didnt mix it dangerous additives to save $ on their end.... Tastes great with the Apple Cinnamon Sticks! :)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:30:53
The majority of the replies have been for Scotch, which is made in Scotland.

The only official spirit of the US is bourbon...which I like much better than scotch and it's all natural. No coloring or flavoring is allowed at all and it doesn't taste like iodine, brine, and ashtrays all mixed together. You get lots of vanilla, caramel, butterscotch, toffee, and some peppery spice in some varieties.

Except that it's made with corn, which is evil and is destroying this country.  Obviously corn itself isn't evil, just the lobbies and political interests that go along with it.

Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:47:15
Jebus guys, can't we have a serious conversation at all? What are you talking about? The OP wanted to know about American Liquor/Whiskey and that's it. Not GMO vs organic BS (which none of the distillers I listed use GMO.)

You know there is a thread here dedicated just to Scotch and another just for beer, right?? Scotch is not American, it's Scotch.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:31:32
If that was directed at me, I never mentioned anything about GMO.  The reason for the last comment is that you gave the impression that Bourbon > Scotch as far as tastes, which most people I've ever met don't agree with because corn makes an inferior tasting alcohol.  People drink bourbon because it's cheap, and they mix it with Coke.  Corn is also why most American beer tastes like crap.  No need to get butthurt about it, it's just an opinion.  How many people do you ever see just sipping Bourbon, vs Scotch or Irish Whiskey.  I just added the evil part because I don't agree with subsidizing farmers so they can put that useless crop into every damn thing you find at the grocery store, as well as some motor vehicles.  Corn raises the price of other crops that don't suck. 

As previously stated, most Americans will agree that domestic alcohol tastes like crap, with the exception of some wines and local craft beers.  That's the reason people are posting about Scotch, because there isn't a good domestic hard alcohol product that is worthy of giving as a gift.  To add another alternative, maybe buy a nice domestic craft beer.  If you buy an expensive beer, the kind that comes in a large bottle with a champagne cork, they almost always taste very good.  It also makes a good gift because most people won't spend $20-$30 or more on a 750ml bottle of beer.  You are paying for an experience that they might not otherwise even consider, but would likely enjoy.  Almost everybody drinks beer in America, but not nearly as many people drink wine, so beer would be a better choice for a gift.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:47:54
Blanton's
Elmer T. Lee
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selections at barrel proof (my favorite)
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr. (if you can find it)
Booker's
Are all very good Bourbons and are around $50. The Elmer T. Lee is close to $30 and is excellent. A great balance between sweet and spice.

Would you say the Four Roses is the absolute top shelf Bourbon that you can find?  This thread makes me want to give Bourbon another chance.  I've tried a couple of bottles of $50ish ones, and was not very impressed.  If I give it another chance, I want to buy the best one possible so that I can make a fair comparison.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:49:17
You've been out of the loop for a while. Bourbon and Rye are the hottest/best selling whiskeys in America and have been for the last decade. That's why there are shortages of bourbon everywhere. The distilleries can't keep up with the demand that keeps skyrocketing. That's just ridiculous to say that Scotch or Irish Whisky are superior spirits. That's a matter of preference, but you can't deny that by law bourbon is a pure unadulterated product. While the same can't always be said about other spirits.

http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2013/05/whiskey-shortage-is-so-bad-buffalo.html
 
http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2013/07/you-dont-need-to-know-anything-about.html

http://whiskeyobsessive.blogspot.com/2013/08/canadian-and-irish-whisky-fans.html

Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:54:22
Blanton's
Elmer T. Lee
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selections at barrel proof (my favorite)
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr. (if you can find it)
Booker's
Are all very good Bourbons and are around $50. The Elmer T. Lee is close to $30 and is excellent. A great balance between sweet and spice.

Would you say the Four Roses is the absolute top shelf Bourbon that you can find?  This thread makes me want to give Bourbon another chance.  I've tried a couple of bottles of $50ish ones, and was not very impressed.  If I give it another chance, I want to buy the best one possible so that I can make a fair comparison.


That really depends on what you like. There really is a big difference in flavor profiles. I would actually suggest the Elmer T. Lee or Pappy Van Winkle 20 year to a newbie, but you can't find the 20 year anywhere except for a bar maybe. There have been nation wide shortages of Elmer T. Lee too. Four Roses would be for the "experienced" bourbon drinker. Regular old Buffalo Trace is a good pour too and it's only about $20.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:54:54
Fair enough, but even if it sells more most people just mix it with coke because it tastes like crap.  Also, I really would like for you to prove me wrong.  I like supporting American products as long as the quality is good.  If you were to buy a bottle of Bourbon with maybe a $50-$200 price range, what would you buy based on taste and value?
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:57:09
Blanton's
Elmer T. Lee
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selections at barrel proof (my favorite)
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr. (if you can find it)
Booker's
Are all very good Bourbons and are around $50. The Elmer T. Lee is close to $30 and is excellent. A great balance between sweet and spice.

Would you say the Four Roses is the absolute top shelf Bourbon that you can find?  This thread makes me want to give Bourbon another chance.  I've tried a couple of bottles of $50ish ones, and was not very impressed.  If I give it another chance, I want to buy the best one possible so that I can make a fair comparison.


That really depends on what you like. There really is a big difference in flavor profiles. I would actually suggest the Elmer T. Lee or Pappy Van Winkle 20 year to a newbie, but you can't find the 20 year anywhere except for a bar maybe. There have been nation wide shortages of Elmer T. Lee too. Four Roses would be for the "experienced" bourbon drinker. Regular old Buffalo Trace is a good pour too and it's only about $20.

Looks like we were posting at the same time.  Anyway since they aren't that expensive I guess I'll try a couple of those, and if I don't like them I'll mix with coke.  Thanks for the recommendations.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 03:57:26
Elmer T. Lee is pretty hard to beat for ~$30. There are some others that you can spend hundreds on and they aren't much better. I haven't seen it on shelves for a couple of months around here though.

Edit: Blanton's is actually very similar to Elmer T. Lee, but it's about $55. You should however be able to find that just about anywhere.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: iri on Thu, 23 January 2014, 04:17:10
okay, so now i know three things made in 'murica:

1) unicomps
2) corn cobs
3) bourbon
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:04:59
Blanton's
Elmer T. Lee
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selections at barrel proof (my favorite)
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr. (if you can find it)
Booker's
Are all very good Bourbons and are around $50. The Elmer T. Lee is close to $30 and is excellent. A great balance between sweet and spice.

Would you say the Four Roses is the absolute top shelf Bourbon that you can find?  This thread makes me want to give Bourbon another chance.  I've tried a couple of bottles of $50ish ones, and was not very impressed.  If I give it another chance, I want to buy the best one possible so that I can make a fair comparison.


That really depends on what you like. There really is a big difference in flavor profiles. I would actually suggest the Elmer T. Lee or Pappy Van Winkle 20 year to a newbie, but you can't find the 20 year anywhere except for a bar maybe. There have been nation wide shortages of Elmer T. Lee too. Four Roses would be for the "experienced" bourbon drinker. Regular old Buffalo Trace is a good pour too and it's only about $20.

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Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:11:10
Shipping varies from state to state. Which state are you in, or are you even in the US?
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:25:18
Assuming that it's legal to have liquor shipped to you (it's not where I am) here is a good site out of California that ships. The Elmer T. Lee is out of stock though.

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=997971
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:19:47
Assuming that it's legal to have liquor shipped to you (it's not where I am) here is a good site out of California that ships. The Elmer T. Lee is out of stock though.

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=997971

Damn, no shipping to NJ  (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-001.gif)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 January 2014, 10:50:06
Assuming that it's legal to have liquor shipped to you (it's not where I am) here is a good site out of California that ships. The Elmer T. Lee is out of stock though.

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=997971

Damn, no shipping to NJ 
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Do you need a proxy?   :))
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2014, 10:52:30
Assuming that it's legal to have liquor shipped to you (it's not where I am) here is a good site out of California that ships. The Elmer T. Lee is out of stock though.

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=997971

Damn, no shipping to NJ 
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Do you need a proxy?   :))

Thx for the offer Brother,   I shall attempt to acquire locally before I trouble you with my misfortunes...

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Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 23 January 2014, 11:03:49
Yeah, bourbon gin and absinthe seem to be all the rage nowadays. Guess the past and present really is circular.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: iri on Thu, 23 January 2014, 12:27:11
absinthe
without wormwood?
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Novus on Thu, 23 January 2014, 13:00:58
Guess the past and present really is circular.

The older the better  :thumb:
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 23 January 2014, 14:56:03
absinthe
without wormwood?

The stuff around here uses greater/grand wormwood and the cheaper ones use lesser wormwood. I've never felt the effects, but then again it's not the kind of drink you have more than one or two of.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 15:21:43
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 23 January 2014, 15:56:59
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 15:59:35
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

I hear that I was just using as a comparison that as an 80 proof it goes down just as easy as a 40 proof.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Trent on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:08:11
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Few spirits, made right here in Chicago.  I tried some samples at a local Binny's and was talking to the guy, he turned out to be the co-owner.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:12:25
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...  haven't come across it since school
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:12:57
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...

That's my sister's favourite drink...   :eek:
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:18:36
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...

That's my sister's favourite drink...   :eek:

I have some bad news for you... your sister likes ****ty liquor.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:21:41
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...

That's my sister's favourite drink...   :eek:

I have some bad news for you... your sister likes ****ty liquor.

I would have to agree here.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:29:42
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...

That's my sister's favourite drink...   :eek:

I have some bad news for you... your sister likes ****ty liquor.

I would have to agree here.

wowowo.. guys... chill out... that's a GH  member's sister...

you wanna disrespect women.. gotta pick a different forum.... yea I heard those OCN girls are ha0-s
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Novus on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:36:13
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...

That's my sister's favourite drink...   :eek:

I have some bad news for you... your sister likes ****ty liquor.

I would have to agree here.

wowowo.. guys... chill out... that's a GH  member's sister...

you wanna disrespect women.. gotta pick a different forum.... yea I heard those OCN girls are ha0-s

I heard they also razer.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2014, 21:07:43
As far as american made I am really liking Cedar Ridge Rum.  It is a non-spiced dark rum that is insanely smooth.  It is something special when you can drink an 80 proof rum and it goes down just as easy and smooth as Malibu which iirc is only around 40 proof.

Ew, Malibu is gross.

malibu? the coconut thing?

Isn't that the date-rape drink...

That's my sister's favourite drink...   :eek:

I have some bad news for you... your sister likes ****ty liquor.

I would have to agree here.

wowowo.. guys... chill out... that's a GH  member's sister...

you wanna disrespect women.. gotta pick a different forum.... yea I heard those OCN girls are ha0-s

I heard they also razer.

yea man... razer haz skanky *****z
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 21:30:07
meant nothing by it.  Just saying that malibu tastes like crap.  The only way to drink coconut flavored rum is this.

1.  Take a fresh coconut with a lot of milk still inside.
2.  Cut off top without spilling milk.
3.  Pour in quality dark rum.
4.  Drink.
5.  Repeat.
6.  Enjoy.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 January 2014, 23:57:11
Hahaha, really guys it's alright.  We both know that she drinks it because it's a really easy/cheap way to get drunk and it doesn't taste super crappy.  :D  No one was under the impression that it was a super classy drink.  :P
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 24 January 2014, 00:42:46
Sounds like one of my old girlfriends. She liked two fingers, tequila.  :p
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Novus on Fri, 24 January 2014, 00:56:20
Sounds like one of my old girlfriends. She liked two fingers, tequila.  :p


Did she lick the salt and bite the lime with the 2 fingers?  :p
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 24 January 2014, 00:58:22
tsk tsk, life is to short to drink cheap liquor
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Novus on Fri, 24 January 2014, 01:11:30
tsk tsk, life is to short to drink cheap liquor

but it's long and crappy enough at times to warrant cheap drinks.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 24 January 2014, 01:17:23
Sounds like one of my old girlfriends. She liked two fingers, tequila.  :p


Did she lick the salt and bite the lime with the 2 fingers?  :p

It's lick and suck...and, yes.  :-*
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Novus on Fri, 24 January 2014, 01:30:32
Sounds like one of my old girlfriends. She liked two fingers, tequila.  :p


Did she lick the salt and bite the lime with the 2 fingers?  :p

It's lick and suck...and, yes.  :-*

I beg to differ  :p
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^ I'm sure you'll agree after watching this.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tgujay on Fri, 24 January 2014, 08:41:04
Hahaha, really guys it's alright.  We both know that she drinks it because it's a really easy/cheap way to get drunk and it doesn't taste super crappy.  :D  No one was under the impression that it was a super classy drink.  :P

I meant no offense, I think it tastes awful but if she likes it then more power to her.  I'm of the mindset that people can drink whatever they like.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 24 January 2014, 10:42:18
tsk tsk, life is to short to drink cheap liquor

but it's long and crappy enough at times to warrant cheap drinks.


everyday of my early 20s
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 24 January 2014, 11:21:57
Hmmm... Hoff might have a sister complex.. he just can't stop talkin' bout her...

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Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: blighty on Fri, 24 January 2014, 11:36:38
http://www.redemptionrye.com/

Both their rye and bourbons are smooth, and they have a slightly higher proof than most whiskeys.

edit:  Note that I can put down a half of a 750ml bottle of Bushmills in a night, with no ill effects the next morning/day.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Malphas on Fri, 24 January 2014, 12:35:26
Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..
Johnnie Walker is a whisky for people that don't know/care about whiskey.

Since you're limited to USA origin the obvious choice is bourbon or rye. If they're seasoned drinkers then they probably already have a chosen mainstream brand and a "premium" whisky will be more for novelty value than anything else - or if they're not that much of a drinker then they won't really be in a position to critique whatever you give them. In both cases you can basically just pick any esoteric small batch distillery out of a hat.

This seems interesting, not that I've tried it.

(http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stranahans-colorado-whiskey.jpg)
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 24 January 2014, 18:09:39
http://www.redemptionrye.com/

Both their rye and bourbons are smooth, and they have a slightly higher proof than most whiskeys.

edit:  Note that I can put down a half of a 750ml bottle of Bushmills in a night, with no ill effects the next morning/day.

I would not call bourbon or rye "smooth" in the sense that they tend to have more flavor than just about any other distilled spirit. Mainly because they can only use NEW charred oak barrels once during the aging process. Which is where the majority of the flavor comes from.

Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 24 January 2014, 18:16:26

Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..
Johnnie Walker is a whisky for people that don't know/care about whiskey.

Since you're limited to USA origin the obvious choice is bourbon or rye. If they're seasoned drinkers then they probably already have a chosen mainstream brand and a "premium" whisky will be more for novelty value than anything else - or if they're not that much of a drinker then they won't really be in a position to critique whatever you give them. In both cases you can basically just pick any esoteric small batch distillery out of a hat.

This seems interesting, not that I've tried it.

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Not a true assessment of "American" whiskey drinkers. Most of them maybe, but not all. The same could easily be said for the Scotch or Irish or Tequila drinkers. I have a collection of about 150 bottles of bourbon and rye and have tried all of them. Our whiskey clubs meet for tastings several times a year and even travel to some of the distilleries to pick private barrels to be privately bottled just for us. There are dozens of similar whiskey clubs all over the US.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Fri, 24 January 2014, 18:40:42

Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..
Johnnie Walker is a whisky for people that don't know/care about whiskey.

Since you're limited to USA origin the obvious choice is bourbon or rye. If they're seasoned drinkers then they probably already have a chosen mainstream brand and a "premium" whisky will be more for novelty value than anything else - or if they're not that much of a drinker then they won't really be in a position to critique whatever you give them. In both cases you can basically just pick any esoteric small batch distillery out of a hat.

This seems interesting, not that I've tried it.

Show Image
(http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stranahans-colorado-whiskey.jpg)


Not a true assessment of "American" whiskey drinkers. Most of them maybe, but not all. The same could easily be said for the Scotch or Irish or Tequila drinkers. I have a collection of about 150 bottles of bourbon and rye and have tried all of them. Our whiskey clubs meet for tastings several times a year and even travel to some of the distilleries to pick private barrels to be privately bottled just for us. There are dozens of similar whiskey clubs all over the US.

Agreed.  I have also tried tons of American, Canadian, Scotch, and Irish whiskeys before I decided that I prefer Scotch, am indifferent to Irish, and generally hate American and Canadian.  I call Crown Royal "Crayon" because it is a reverse bastardization of the pronunciation, and somewhat fitting.  However, I am still open to trying new bottles if they are highly recommended, and hope to actually enjoy an American whiskey one day.  The people at the liquor store know me very well LOL.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: Malphas on Fri, 24 January 2014, 18:47:09

Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..
Johnnie Walker is a whisky for people that don't know/care about whiskey.

Since you're limited to USA origin the obvious choice is bourbon or rye. If they're seasoned drinkers then they probably already have a chosen mainstream brand and a "premium" whisky will be more for novelty value than anything else - or if they're not that much of a drinker then they won't really be in a position to critique whatever you give them. In both cases you can basically just pick any esoteric small batch distillery out of a hat.

This seems interesting, not that I've tried it.

Show Image
(http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stranahans-colorado-whiskey.jpg)


Not a true assessment of "American" whiskey drinkers. Most of them maybe, but not all. The same could easily be said for the Scotch or Irish or Tequila drinkers. I have a collection of about 150 bottles of bourbon and rye and have tried all of them. Our whiskey clubs meet for tastings several times a year and even travel to some of the distilleries to pick private barrels to be privately bottled just for us. There are dozens of similar whiskey clubs all over the US.

I didn't say it was anything specific to American whiskey drinkers; it's the same of all seasoned drinkers generally. Most Scotch drinkers have a particular blend or a mainstream malt that they drink 99%+ of the time. What you are is a hobbyist/collector/enthusiast, that's not the same thing.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 24 January 2014, 19:10:22

Not American but just pick up a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- always classy

yea i thought about that.... but I feel johnnie walker is border line sn0bish ever since they've hit the club scene..  kinda like iPhones..
Johnnie Walker is a whisky for people that don't know/care about whiskey.

Since you're limited to USA origin the obvious choice is bourbon or rye. If they're seasoned drinkers then they probably already have a chosen mainstream brand and a "premium" whisky will be more for novelty value than anything else - or if they're not that much of a drinker then they won't really be in a position to critique whatever you give them. In both cases you can basically just pick any esoteric small batch distillery out of a hat.

This seems interesting, not that I've tried it.

Show Image
(http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stranahans-colorado-whiskey.jpg)


Not a true assessment of "American" whiskey drinkers. Most of them maybe, but not all. The same could easily be said for the Scotch or Irish or Tequila drinkers. I have a collection of about 150 bottles of bourbon and rye and have tried all of them. Our whiskey clubs meet for tastings several times a year and even travel to some of the distilleries to pick private barrels to be privately bottled just for us. There are dozens of similar whiskey clubs all over the US.

Agreed.  I have also tried tons of American, Canadian, Scotch, and Irish whiskeys before I decided that I prefer Scotch, am indifferent to Irish, and generally hate American and Canadian.  I call Crown Royal "Crayon" because it is a reverse bastardization of the pronunciation, and somewhat fitting.  However, I am still open to trying new bottles if they are highly recommended, and hope to actually enjoy an American whiskey one day.  The people at the liquor store know me very well LOL.

If you like peaty smokey scotch then you may not like bourbon or rye. They are completely different animals. If you do enjoy the smokey malts then I would suggest Weller 12 year for you. It's smokey, sweet, and even has a little coconut around mid palate. I don't like it at all because it reminds me of scotch. For the record the last scotch I had was a Laphroaig 10 yr. and it's like medicine to put it nicely.

Edit: Most, not all, Canadian and Irish whiskey is GNS (vodka) flavored with either a straight whiskey or other flavorings and coloring. Crown Royal is basically flavored vodka.

Edit 2: Which American whiskies have you had that you don't like? That would help me determine what you might like. Also, not all American whiskies are created equal. There are lots of blends and micro-distilleries that are true swill.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 24 January 2014, 19:47:22
Hahaha, really guys it's alright.  We both know that she drinks it because it's a really easy/cheap way to get drunk and it doesn't taste super crappy.  :D  No one was under the impression that it was a super classy drink.  :P

I meant no offense, I think it tastes awful but if she likes it then more power to her.  I'm of the mindset that people can drink whatever they like.

No offense taken, I was just explaining in case anyone was curious.

Hmmm... Hoff might have a sister complex.. he just can't stop talkin' bout her...

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Ha.  Nope.   :p
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Fri, 24 January 2014, 21:27:22
If you like peaty smokey scotch then you may not like bourbon or rye. They are completely different animals. If you do enjoy the smokey malts then I would suggest Weller 12 year for you. It's smokey, sweet, and even has a little coconut around mid palate. I don't like it at all because it reminds me of scotch. For the record the last scotch I had was a Laphroaig 10 yr. and it's like medicine to put it nicely.

Edit: Most, not all, Canadian and Irish whiskey is GNS (vodka) flavored with either a straight whiskey or other flavorings and coloring. Crown Royal is basically flavored vodka.

Edit 2: Which American whiskies have you had that you don't like? That would help me determine what you might like. Also, not all American whiskies are created equal. There are lots of blends and micro-distilleries that are true swill.

Out of the recommendations that you gave, the only one they had in stock at Total Wine was Blantons.  They carry most of the other ones, but they are sold out, which supports what you said about the shortage.  However, to be fair, I spoke with the bourbon expert at the store and asked for other recommendations, and they highly recommended Blantons, and said that Chestnut Farms would be a close second.  I purchased both.  Blanton's was EXCELLENT.  Chestnut Farms was just okay, not bad, and not great. 

As far as what I've tried in the past - I've tried the higher priced bottles of Woodford Reserve, Wild Turkey, Jefferson's Reserve, Makers, Jack, and a bunch of other ones that I can't remember.  Pretty much I went to the liquor store and kept trying bottles before I finally gave up on Bourbon.  Thanks to your recommendations, I take back what I said earlier, and will add Blanton's into my rotation.  I still prefer Balvenie, but WOW was I pleasantly surprised by the Blanton's. 

Also, I realize that comparing Scotch to Bourbon is like comparing apples to oranges, so I just take it for what it is.  Thanks for the recommendation, and I will try the other ones on your list when they come back in stock.  I'll look out for the Weller 12 as well.  As far as Scotch, I dare you to try a bottle of Balvenie 21 and tell me it isn't the greatest drink you've ever tasted.  However, it is very spendy, so I usually just settle for the 12 unless it's my birthday or some other special occasion.
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Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 24 January 2014, 21:57:26
Glad to hear you like it. Blanton's and Elmer T. Lee use the same mashbill (recipe) and come from the same distillery (Buffalo Trace.) Just different labels, bottles, and price. Chestnut Farms I have heard of but not had. I think it's specifically marketed on the West coast. Regional offerings are not uncommon. And remember many of those liquor store guys have incentive to sell particular brands whether they are good or not. There is a local place here that pushes Rowan's Creek all of the time. It's not bad stuff, but it's not what I go in looking for - yet they always recommend it.

Most of what you have already tried is considered plebeian by most enthusiasts and the high end Woodford bottles ($100+) are considered really bad, period. Maker's is like water to me, Jefferson's used to be good when it was 15, but I haven't had the new stuff. They did come out with a 17 and 18 year that are REALLY good if you can find them. Unlikely though. Wild Turkey made before 2000 was good, now it's hit or miss as to if your bottle will be good. And last, but not least, the best selling whiskey in the US - Jack Daniel's- ...I just don't like it. It's a well made whiskey, but it tastes like bananas.

As you can imagine some of the guys in my group are scotch drinkers too. So, I'll ask for a sample of the Balvenie at our next tasting. The other bourbons I recommended should be available in good whiskey bars.
Title: Re: American made Hard Liquor
Post by: quickcrx702 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 00:04:55
No wonder I didn't like what I tried.  I like your choice of words, "plebeian" LOL.  It looks like we have a more refined palette than the peasants.  My assumption was that if I kept buying enough bottles on the higher end of the spectrum, they must be representative of what is considered quality.  I stand corrected.  I think that Blanton's reminds me a little of Balvenie if it were a Bourbon, which is probably why I like it.  I am quite sure that you will enjoy Balvenie.  I'm not a connoisseur, I've just tried a lot of different whiskeys.  So while I can't give any "notes of some BS flower or spice you've never heard of... blah blah..." comparison, I can tell you from my taste buds that Balvenie and Blantons would be like Pepsi and Coke, whereas Jack or others would be RC Cola.  They are different from each other, but are relatively similar and very enjoyable, while superior to the RC Cola of Whiskeys.  Thanks again for making me eat my words.