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Title: F-122
Post by: 127001 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:25:19
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141204581022
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:58:13
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.

Also, I have never had one that was not numbered 6110xxx, I thought that the part number 138xxxx/139xxxx signified the change to the Model M.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:43:36
Some model Fs are 138**** For example the "unsaver" is a 1387033. It has been speculated that these came from lexmark using IBM parts and equipment, or as refurbs or something.

I'm not sure if I knew of the 1385151 product number before now.

You can see that the APL model F in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55253.msg1239989#msg1239989)has a PN of 1385167. also a relatively new date of 16 oct '85
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:58:03
Some model Fs are 138**** For example the "unsaver" is a 1387033. It has been speculated that these came from lexmark using IBM parts and equipment, or as refurbs or something.

I'm not sure if I knew of the 1385151 product number before now.

You can see that the APL model F in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55253.msg1239989#msg1239989)has a PN of 1385167. also a relatively new date of 16 oct '85

I thought Lexmark did not exist until the 1990s or so.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: milubilu on Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:30:48
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Model Fs would not have keycaps, correct?  It seems that this keyboard is missing a keycap for key to the left of "1".  If that is the case, then is this one of the keyboards that is changing to Model M as suggested by fohat.digs? 

I am just starting to learn about keyboards so could be way off here.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:41:57
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Model Fs would not have keycaps, correct? 

All my Fs have had 2-piece keys, with rare exceptions, except for the XTs, which usually had 1-piece keys.

Maybe I should check my AT, I have not had it out in a couple of years.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: E TwentyNine on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:07:05
Maybe I should check my AT, I have not had it out in a couple of years.

One piece.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:30:35
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:39:45
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR

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Title: Re: F-122
Post by: semyorka on Thu, 27 February 2014, 13:57:25
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR

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Title: Re: F-122
Post by: semyorka on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:03:50
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.

Also, I have never had one that was not numbered 6110xxx, I thought that the part number 138xxxx/139xxxx signified the change to the Model M.

I have one from November of 1985.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:09:07
You guys should let me get this one, since I got screwed on that last eBay sale for them. ;)
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: JPG on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:12:17
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.


Depends, the one I got was 55$ + shipping, but I was very lucky I suppose. JD got less lucky...
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:35:00
You guys should let me get this one, since I got screwed on that last eBay sale for them. ;)

I won't bid on it for sure :P
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: semyorka on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:37:51
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.

Price seems to be trending towards $150 or so - I got two for $75/each a while back, and feel like I got a good deal.

Of course, the motherload of F122s (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55253.0;topicseen) may depress prices soon.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:17:44
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.

Price seems to be trending towards $150 or so - I got two for $75/each a while back, and feel like I got a good deal.

Of course, the motherload of F122s (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55253.0;topicseen) may depress prices soon.
What the **** is that collection
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 16:53:02
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR


Did you win it?
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: semyorka on Thu, 27 February 2014, 17:57:35
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.

Price seems to be trending towards $150 or so - I got two for $75/each a while back, and feel like I got a good deal.

Of course, the motherload of F122s (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55253.0;topicseen) may depress prices soon.
What the **** is that collection
That seems to be the pretty universal response.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 18:41:41
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR


Did you win it?

My snipe was for $125 and I was banking off of no one finding it
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 18:58:35
Don't ever count on no one finding it. I knew about it before this thread appeared. If you have a search saved on eBay with the right keywords, you'll find these things in your email periodically.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:20:13
Don't ever count on no one finding it. I knew about it before this thread appeared. If you have a search saved on eBay with the right keywords, you'll find these things in your email periodically.

A bit off topic, but I've found ebay's notifications to be near useless, because they're delayed by hours. Does anyone have a recommendation for an instantaneous email notification service?
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 20:03:03
because they're delayed by hours.

They come out once a day. A listing might be 23 seconds old or 23 hours old. But you're right, a good deal might have gotten snatched up.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 27 February 2014, 21:23:52
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.


Depends, the one I got was 55$ + shipping, but I was very lucky I suppose. JD got less lucky...

mine was $35+shipping
Don't ever count on no one finding it. I knew about it before this thread appeared. If you have a search saved on eBay with the right keywords, you'll find these things in your email periodically.
^this. I have my own IBM filters set up on eBay, and I know several other GH'ers that do too. The only items that go "unnoticed" are mis-listed, and often not even then.

For example, I saw as displaywriter (beamspring) listed as "IBM system information card". The word "keyboard' was not in the title or description. Yet, another Geekhacker still noticed it. (and politely declined to bid for my sake).
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 21:44:52
Ah okay

thanks for the advice

so only newly listed BINs are easy pickings
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: REVENGE on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:50:31
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.
1387033
104 Key Model F
Lexmark
1996
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 23:05:24
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.
1387033
104 Key Model F
Lexmark
1996

wattttttttt
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 23:19:42
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.
1387033
104 Key Model F
Lexmark
1996

(http://i.imgur.com/Nu7ukrK.gif)
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: JWK on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:02:42
because they're delayed by hours.

They come out once a day. A listing might be 23 seconds old or 23 hours old. But you're right, a good deal might have gotten snatched up.


Hmmm...  I wonder if anyone has written a tool to perform searches periodically.   Might be a market for such a tool.  The difficult aspect is that ebay does not provide an API, so you have to scrape the data.   
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:10:17
so you have to scrape the data.   

I am sure that we all forget the sheer size of ebay.

For example, a search for "IBM keyboard" give 10K hits and "Dell keyboard" yields 30K hits. And my ebay is only set to North America.

Personally, I appreciate that ebay allows me to have a watch list at all. At some point you just have to let go and be satisfied with less than everything.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:37:20
so you have to scrape the data.   

I am sure that we all forget the sheer size of ebay.

For example, a search for "IBM keyboard" give 10K hits and "Dell keyboard" yields 30K hits. And my ebay is only set to North America.

Personally, I appreciate that ebay allows me to have a watch list at all. At some point you just have to let go and be satisfied with less than everything.


and yet a few simple exclusions narrows things down considerably. For example "ibm keyboard -usb -black -lenovo -laptop -thinkpad -think -pos" has less than 1000 hits, and you can easily get it down to a few hundred with more.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:38:33
At some point you just have to let go and be satisfied with less than everything.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nu7ukrK.gif)
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:43:47
I am not a software developer, but I am reasonably confident that I am not the first person to think of this. There is probably a good reason there's no such tool. But yes, anyone who could develop this service would rake in cash  :thumb:
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:05:11
So, did one of us here win the auction? I'm curious to know if the internals are different than the usual 6xxx model numbers.
Title: Re: F-122
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:14:41
It wasn't me who won it. FYI, I'm the one with 299 feedback.

Maybe it was EverythingIBM again.