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Title: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:46:08
I hope that any good news comes from this. I'm really worried how something this disastrous would happen in the 21st century.

230 passengers on board, planes been missing for 5 hours. (lost communication)


Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1222674/malaysia-airlines-plane-loses-contact
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1zur6k/malaysia_airlines_plane_loses_contact_malaysia/

According to sources: the plane does not have enough fuel to still be in the air.


Update:

http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

In the ocean..
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:48:01
:(

Imagine the 100-200 families and how they feel.

Such a ****ty situation.

I hope they're okay.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:55:34
I do feel for those families.

In the big picture though, 815 million passengers travel on commercial airlines each year. It's really remarkable how rare accidents are. Remember, it's not the things you see in the news that you should fear, because those are the unusual occurences. It's the things that are too common to make the news that you should be worried about. Buckle up and pay attention when you're on the road!

Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 07 March 2014, 23:03:31
oh god they found it in the ocean
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 March 2014, 23:03:47
http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

 Update.. not looking good
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: dante on Fri, 07 March 2014, 23:07:47
Why was the first thing I thought of a North Korean missle?
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 07 March 2014, 23:18:13
spooky
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 08 March 2014, 00:41:18
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Meanwhile, politician Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin is being slammed for an insensitive tweet about a 'new Bermuda triangle'.

Wow...

Deepest condolences to the families that had members on board...
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 08 March 2014, 17:47:20
Will somebody please remind me what the killing of innocent people accomplishes for anybody, or any idea?
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 08 March 2014, 17:56:06
So they still aren't saying what happened?
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:01:58
So they still aren't saying what happened?

Plane still hasn't been found, there is a 6-9 mile oil slick on the ocean around the area it went missing though.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:05:11
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I'm really worried how something this disastrous would happen in the 21st century.

Why's that? No machine is immune to problems.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:07:15
So they still aren't saying what happened?

Plane still hasn't been found, there is a 6-9 mile oil slick on the ocean around the area it went missing though.
Damn... Hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:15:13
That's my home country's national airlines. It's a really sad situation at the moment & earlier this year a young pilot passed away as well from a domestic flight but that was a small plane. :(
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pasph on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:19:09
There was an italian in passenger list of Malaysia Airlines plane, but it wasn't him someone has embarked with his passport stolen.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:20:06
There was an italian in passenger list of Malaysia Airlines plane, but it wasn't him someone has embarked with his passport stolen.

Yeah, and apparently that dude's in Thailand  :confused:
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:23:19
There was an italian in passenger list of Malaysia Airlines plane, but it wasn't him someone has embarked with his passport stolen.

and an Aussie apparently.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:36:05
There was an italian in passenger list of Malaysia Airlines plane, but it wasn't him someone has embarked with his passport stolen.

and an Aussie apparently.

If by Aussie you mean Austrian. ;)
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:37:28
nah, the kangaroo lovers


edit: whoops, yeah, Austrian.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 18:38:24
There was an italian in passenger list of Malaysia Airlines plane, but it wasn't him someone has embarked with his passport stolen.

and an Aussie apparently.

If by Aussie you mean Austrian. ;)

whops. my bad my bad.
apparently there were 2 people in the plane that was on a stolen passport.
http://my.news.yahoo.com/authorities-probing-possible-foul-play-missing-passport-claim-152800254.html  :confused:
man the conspiracy  :blank:
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: iri on Sun, 09 March 2014, 04:20:34
morale of the story: don't steal passports.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: paicrai on Sun, 09 March 2014, 06:57:15
i bet it was aliens
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 09 March 2014, 23:22:07
I think it's an 80% likelihood of terrorists.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 09 March 2014, 23:22:53
I think it's an 80% likelihood of terrorists.

Maybe but the thing is the cabin was bullet proof and it disappeared at the safest point in flight. Without any distress calls.. So much mystery... :/.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 09 March 2014, 23:29:26
I think it's an 80% likelihood of terrorists.

Maybe but the thing is the cabin was bullet proof and it disappeared at the safest point in flight. Without any distress calls.. So much mystery... :/.

The two people who travelled on stolen passports bought their tickets together.

I'm wondering whether there is some form of collusion. EG they could have brought on board some explosive ingredients that are harmless when alone, but lethal when mixed.

There is also a guy who travelled on a fake Chinese passport. A total of three people who bought their tickets from a Chinese airline using fake IDs.

I'm suspecting domestic terrorists from China. The fact that two men used the IDs of Europeans narrows down the likelihood to only one ethnic group in China.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 09 March 2014, 23:31:51
I heard about this, its so bizarre..  :-X
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 09 March 2014, 23:33:29
I think it's an 80% likelihood of terrorists.

Maybe but the thing is the cabin was bullet proof and it disappeared at the safest point in flight. Without any distress calls.. So much mystery... :/.

The two people who travelled on stolen passports bought their tickets together.

I'm wondering whether there is some form of collusion. EG they could have brought on board some explosive ingredients that are harmless when alone, but lethal when mixed.

There is also a guy who travelled on a fake Chinese passport. A total of three people who bought their tickets from a Chinese airline using fake IDs.

I'm suspecting domestic terrorists from China. The fact that two men used the IDs of Europeans narrows down the likelihood to only one ethnic group in China.

Yeah I know, for some reason they covered their tracks too and bought continuing tickets to Amsterdam then to Frankfurt and somewhere else.. Maybe it was, but I feel sick just thinking about what may have happened over 55 hours now..
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: deSheol on Mon, 10 March 2014, 03:22:25
Yeah.. if it was an act of terrorism.. it happened so fast, there were no distress signal at all. I am thinking, the pilot might have dozed off while the co pilot was taking his rest, then the plane goes even further up in the sky and hit the ozone wall, and came down on high speed, when they realized it was too late, and then parts were flown away and crashed into the sea so deep, it'd be hard to find, but even that would have noticed all the airports anyway... so this is quite the mystery, and heartfelt for all the family, including the pilots.

I think it's an 80% likelihood of terrorists.

Maybe but the thing is the cabin was bullet proof and it disappeared at the safest point in flight. Without any distress calls.. So much mystery... :/.

The two people who travelled on stolen passports bought their tickets together.

I'm wondering whether there is some form of collusion. EG they could have brought on board some explosive ingredients that are harmless when alone, but lethal when mixed.

There is also a guy who travelled on a fake Chinese passport. A total of three people who bought their tickets from a Chinese airline using fake IDs.

I'm suspecting domestic terrorists from China. The fact that two men used the IDs of Europeans narrows down the likelihood to only one ethnic group in China.

Yeah I know, for some reason they covered their tracks too and bought continuing tickets to Amsterdam then to Frankfurt and somewhere else.. Maybe it was, but I feel sick just thinking about what may have happened over 55 hours now..
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 10 March 2014, 04:31:41
If it were an act of terrorism, you'd expect to see a group claiming responsibility... surreptitious acts defeat the whole point of terrorism.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: bazh on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:37:27
Find and rescue team from all the nations :D

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Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:54:05
It's all really suspicious how we haven't gotten any closer to finding the plane then we were 5 days ago. Sigh I wonder what happened, for the most part assume the worse by now
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: PointyFox on Thu, 13 March 2014, 22:01:46
They're saying that the plane probably went out further than originally thought after changing course and now they're looking in the Indian Ocean.   I think the most probable theory so far is that a catastrophic event occurred that resulted in depressurization of the plane causing the occupants to lose consciousness and loss of power resulting in the transponders turning off.  I'm sure they'll be making a movie about this in a few years where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Thu, 13 March 2014, 23:19:00
I'm sure they'll be making a movie about this in a few years where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.
(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070303221756/lostpedia/images/1/16/Lost-season1.jpg)

too soon?
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: paicrai on Fri, 14 March 2014, 02:28:39
I'm sure they'll be making a movie about this in a few years where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.
Show Image
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too soon?
Not for me.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Novus on Fri, 14 March 2014, 02:35:13
I'm sure they'll be making a movie about this in a few years where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.
Show Image
(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070303221756/lostpedia/images/1/16/Lost-season1.jpg)


too soon?
Good thing that's a season 1 poster or else you would have started serious controversy!
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 14 March 2014, 03:08:28
It is a bit like Lost, don't you think? How can one lost a plane in this highly connected digital world? It is so bizarre beyond believes. And one of the passengers is my co-workers. He just joined not too long ago, so I don't really know him but I still can't believe that I saw him a week ago!
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 14 March 2014, 03:35:35
Someone on the forum works feor Malaysian airlines, I can't recall who, but I know someone does, for a fact, maybe they can shed some light.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 00:28:27
Latest update says the plane was hijacked. :/
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Sun, 16 March 2014, 00:43:11
I'm sure they'll be making a movie about this in a few years where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.
Show Image
(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070303221756/lostpedia/images/1/16/Lost-season1.jpg)


too soon?
Good thing that's a season 1 poster or else you would have started serious controversy!

that's the only season i saw
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 16 March 2014, 19:00:16
where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.

A 777 must be worth a lot of money. Instead of terrorists, what about thieves? Just fly the thing into a remote area, hide it for a while, and sell it to a rich Chinese tycoon.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 16 March 2014, 19:01:17
where there is some secret plot and the plane lands in a secret airport.

A 777 must be worth a lot of money. Instead of terrorists, what about thieves? Just fly the thing into a remote area, hide it for a while, and sell it to a rich Chinese tycoon.

Wouldn't there be like serial numbers and uniquely keyed transponders and everything - kinda obvious it was stolen.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Novus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 20:49:39
... as if a rich Chinese tycoon would go through all that trouble instead of doing the sensible thing like buying a gulf-stream
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:45:30
doesn't jon travalta have like a 747? i know he has a few 707's, he's just a rich movie star, a chinese tycoon would just be a richard branson and buy a virgin airline.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:41:04
regardless of what happened, the passengers on board are almost certainly not OK. i know we have quite a few malaysian and chinese (beijing-a, even) posters here. i hope everyone they know and love is OK.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:46:19
regardless of what happened, the passengers on board are almost certainly not OK. i know we have quite a few malaysian and chinese (beijing-a, even) posters here. i hope everyone they know and love is OK.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. It's been 8-9 days already, getting food to hold hostages for 230 people without suspicion is almost impossible. But I do hope that there is a chance.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:48:56
regardless of what happened, the passengers on board are almost certainly not OK. i know we have quite a few malaysian and chinese (beijing-a, even) posters here. i hope everyone they know and love is OK.

+1
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:49:48
regardless of what happened, the passengers on board are almost certainly not OK. i know we have quite a few malaysian and chinese (beijing-a, even) posters here. i hope everyone they know and love is OK.

Hmm. I'm a Malaysian but I'm currently overseas. I'm reading the news daily. The Chinese gov are really impatient about how the Malaysian Gov is handling the situation. Well, the sea is so vast. It's really gonna take awhile to pin point the location. But it's been almost a week+, I think the main thing is to look for the plane now. I don't even know if anyone is still alive.  :(
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 17 March 2014, 01:21:11
Some sources are suspecting that the captain may have committed suicide like the SilkAir Flight 185, in 1997. (Happened to also watch Mayday on Discovery yesterday night regarding Flight 185...)
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 17 March 2014, 02:10:43
Some sources are suspecting that the captain may have committed suicide like the SilkAir Flight 185, in 1997. (Happened to also watch Mayday on Discovery yesterday night regarding Flight 185...)

I remember watching the documentary the results of SilkAir were really mixed. The NTSB thought it was the pilot committing suicide, (loss of 1.4m in stocks) (but he had like $200k surplus still if he liquified his assets and paid off loans). But in the USA there was a settlement with the rudder maker for the boeing 737 for $55million for a faulty rudder that they say caused the plane to spin and fall. I hate it when you have to accept an ending like that :/ I hate mysteries that go unsolved
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 17 March 2014, 03:32:41
Some sources are suspecting that the captain may have committed suicide like the SilkAir Flight 185, in 1997. (Happened to also watch Mayday on Discovery yesterday night regarding Flight 185...)

The only problem is that there were two pilots.

How about this:
A terrorist/pirate/ninja or two enters the cabin and kills the pilots.  They then disable communications and increase the plane's altitude.  They then depressurize the plane and use the pilots' oxygen supply while they wait for the passengers to pass out once their 13 minute oxygen supply runs out.  They then decrease altitude and re-pressurize the plane, changing direction and heading for their airstrip where they can then either sell the plane or turn it into a weapon.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 17 March 2014, 03:43:33
Some sources are suspecting that the captain may have committed suicide like the SilkAir Flight 185, in 1997. (Happened to also watch Mayday on Discovery yesterday night regarding Flight 185...)

The only problem is that there were two pilots.

How about this:
A terrorist/pirate/ninja or two enters the cabin and kills the pilots.  They then disable communications and increase the plane's altitude.  They then depressurize the plane and use the pilots' oxygen supply while they wait for the passengers to pass out once their 13 minute oxygen supply runs out.  They then decrease altitude and re-pressurize the plane, changing direction and heading for their airstrip where they can then either sell the plane or turn it into a weapon.

There were two pilots on SilkAir 185 as well. According to the documentary, the Captain made up an excuse to get the other pilot to walk out, and then locked his cabin door. He then proceeded to dive the plain 80° nose down while having the black box and other flight recorder turned off ahead of time.

Your theory does seem a bit extreme... But anything's possible..
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 17 March 2014, 04:27:28
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Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 17 March 2014, 04:30:58
This is most likely something that will be found in a couple of years at the bottom of the ocean somewhere.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Mon, 17 March 2014, 04:52:39
Well, as cruel as it sounds, stuff like this has to happen from time to time...
No system is fail-proof, and even at a "success rate" of 99.999% there still would be some dozen plane crashes per year.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: paicrai on Mon, 17 March 2014, 05:04:25
How about reptilian shapeshifters?
Yes, according to conspiracy theorists, that's a thing.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 17 March 2014, 12:16:54
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What a troll. Mailing 5M in cash? Pft, should have just asked for a bank draft. :p
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: iri on Mon, 17 March 2014, 12:24:44
i can pay with a personal check.
anyone wanna be my crew?
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 17 March 2014, 15:42:13
if it was terrorism, it's a possibility, b/c it wasn't an american airline, i can guarantee that for 50 years there will never be a successful terrorist hijacking on an american airliner. It's not the air marshalls that will take care of ****, it'll be the passengers, they will straight up murder the terrorists.

now an airplane full of malaysians? sure that's a possibility.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:30:23
One theory about MH370 which makes sense to me
https://plus.google.com/106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Michael on Mon, 17 March 2014, 21:37:12
Just remember, that it took almost 2 years to find that Air France plane that went down. It had sunk into some underwater mountain area.
Not to say that this is the case, or to disregard any hopes, but just one of many possibilities.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: irendulic on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:27:56
They still haven't found out what happened? Oh man... I can understand that occasionally something must go wrong with the planes, but with all today's gps and stuff, you would think that they'd at least be able to figure out soon what happened, where the plane fell...
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Techno Trousers on Tue, 18 March 2014, 00:01:14
For what it's worth, I saw this on New Scientist today.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25232-data-transmission-system-on-mh370-deliberately-disabled.html

tl;dr Someone on the plane intentionally turned off the transponders, then it turned around and assumed a new heading in one of two directions, and was never heard from again. May have run out of fuel and ditched in the ocean. Interesting how they were able to use satellite data to figure this out because even though the airline didn't subscribe to the satellite data recording system, the plane still pinged the satellite with empty packets and those pings times and locations were recorded.

At least this gives them a better idea of where they should concentrate searches for debris.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Malphas on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:50:20
It'll be lying a million bits in the sea.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: bazh on Thu, 20 March 2014, 12:32:52
Just saw this, can't stop laughing =))

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Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 20 March 2014, 14:31:10
They still haven't found out what happened? Oh man... I can understand that occasionally something must go wrong with the planes, but with all today's gps and stuff, you would think that they'd at least be able to figure out soon what happened, where the plane fell...

That's what I'm saying. We can locate our phones, but yet can can't find a freaking plane...

According to several news sites, family members were still able to locate phones with FindMyiPhone and Android Device Manager. Whether this is the last known location of the device, I don't really remember how apple worked. From what I remember, if the device is off, then you won't be able to find it. Unless the airplane suddenly became a submarine.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 14:33:06
They still haven't found out what happened? Oh man... I can understand that occasionally something must go wrong with the planes, but with all today's gps and stuff, you would think that they'd at least be able to figure out soon what happened, where the plane fell...

That's what I'm saying. We can locate our phones, but yet can can't find a freaking plane...

According to several news sites, family members were still able to locate phones with FindMyiPhone and Android Device Manager. Whether this is the last known location of the device, I don't really remember how apple worked. From what I remember, if the device is off, then you won't be able to find it. Unless the airplane suddenly became a submarine.

Why wouldn't investigators be using that data?  ???
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 20 March 2014, 15:12:46
Currents, either that, or they already did?
Some are also saying that the pilot altered the flight course. Or someone did at least.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 16:01:02
Currents, either that, or they already did?
Some are also saying that the pilot altered the flight course. Or someone did at least.

Yes, according to the latest news the pilot diverted the plane  :(  :-X
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 20 March 2014, 16:21:21
Currents, either that, or they already did?
Some are also saying that the pilot altered the flight course. Or someone did at least.

Yes, according to the latest news the pilot diverted the plane  :(  :-X

Do they think they know a motive? Or who had a gripe with the pilot?
Maybe they started arguing, then fists were flying and hit buttons, and then lost.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 18:47:55
They still haven't found out what happened? Oh man... I can understand that occasionally something must go wrong with the planes, but with all today's gps and stuff, you would think that they'd at least be able to figure out soon what happened, where the plane fell...
That's what I'm saying. We can locate our phones, but yet can can't find a freaking plane...

According to several news sites, family members were still able to locate phones with FindMyiPhone and Android Device Manager. Whether this is the last known location of the device, I don't really remember how apple worked. From what I remember, if the device is off, then you won't be able to find it. Unless the airplane suddenly became a submarine.
Why wouldn't investigators be using that data?  ???
Out in the wide open ocean there are large parts that are not covered by radar.
No phone towers and it is way too expensive and most of the time unnecessary to cover every single part of the ocean with satellites all the time.
So it is very likely that being able to call their phones is an unsubstantiated rumour. Without reception with some kind of cellphone tower you won't be able to track a phone. It just won't "ping".
If it crashed in the middle of the ocean, at 30 meters GPS and most emergency beacons won't work anymore or at least the signal won't be strong enough to be picked up above water.

Something like that has happened before and they knew exactly where to look. It still took them it still took them 2 years (http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysia-777-air-france-447-crash-2014-3) and a big dose of luck to find it. They even found small pieces of debris back then, something that hasn't been found with Malaysia flight MH370.

So don't be too surprised.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Thu, 20 March 2014, 18:50:54
arm chair detectives
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Cafiend on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:40:02
When they started mentioning pieces being spotted outside Australia I thought of Elrick ;)
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:14:13
The supposed parts are over 2500 km away from the Western coast of Australia.

This is going to take a loooong time to find anything, even if it is the plane.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 21 March 2014, 00:48:17
Don't forget that undersea current is strong around that area so that debris might be somewhere else when the search plane reached that area.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: infiniti on Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:26:29
Latest news is that the airline has assumed that the flight went down in the Southern Indian Ocean. :(

Via Malaysia Airlines (http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html) (http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html)
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Monday, March 24, 10:00 PM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - Press Briefing by Prime Minister of Malaysia

Malaysia Airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume that MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean. As you will hear in the next hour from Malaysia’s Prime Minister, new analysis of satellite data suggests the plane went down in the Southern Indian Ocean.

On behalf of all of us at Malaysia Airlines and all Malaysians, our prayers go out to all the loved ones of the 226 passengers and of our 13 friends and colleagues at this enormously painful time.

We know there are no words that we or anyone else can say which can ease your pain. We will continue to provide assistance and support to you, as we have done since MH370 first disappeared in the early hours of 8 March, while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The ongoing multinational search operation will continue, as we seek answers to the questions which remain. Alongside the search for MH370, there is an intensive investigation, which we hope will also provide answers.

We would like to assure you that Malaysia Airlines will continue to give you our full support throughout the difficult weeks and months ahead.

Once again, we humbly offer our sincere thoughts, prayers and condolences to everyone affected by this tragedy.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: mindoculus on Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:58:40
The plane was not equipped with satellite tracking. Most planes are not. That's expensive.

They could be installed if costs were divided between the public and private sectors.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 10:00:46
Such sadness :(
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 07 April 2014, 12:51:57
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pexon on Mon, 07 April 2014, 12:56:13
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

wow  :-X
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 07 April 2014, 13:03:19
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

I actually lol'd.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:06:34
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

Oh wow dude.  :-X
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: demik on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:26:44
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

that was corny
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:20:06
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

u going to hell ( :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) )
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:56:58
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

Might be a bit too soon. :-X
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Novus on Tue, 08 April 2014, 13:29:20
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

There's no way a geekhacker would survive on a cargo ship  :p
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 19:35:35
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

There's no way a geekhacker would survive on a cargo ship  :p

As long as there are keyboards and a couple of sets of spare keycaps, s/he could while away the time swapping keycaps over.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 08 April 2014, 19:52:29
I'm not so sure it's nice to joke about this. One of my coworkers is on the plane. Another coworker's immediate cousin was a steward. So, yeah, not nice.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:02:28
That sucks, dude :(
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:05:42
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

There's no way a geekhacker would survive on a cargo ship  :p

As long as there are keyboards and a couple of sets of spare keycaps, s/he could while away the time swapping keycaps over.
The plane was actually secretly carrying a batch of CCs and keyboard enthusiast terrorists got wind of it
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:25:16
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

There's no way a geekhacker would survive on a cargo ship  :p

As long as there are keyboards and a couple of sets of spare keycaps, s/he could while away the time swapping keycaps over.
The plane was actually secretly carrying a batch of CCs and keyboard enthusiast terrorists got wind of it

Let's be a little sensitive to Belfong. Sorry about your loss, man. This must be horrible.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:29:31
I'm not so sure it's nice to joke about this. One of my coworkers is on the plane. Another coworker's immediate cousin was a steward. So, yeah, not nice.


Sincerest condolences.

I'm happy to remove my above comment if you feel it is too frivolous.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:48:26
Thanks rowdy. Removal of post is not necessary. We can use this thread as a memorial. This is what we all put on the coworker's desk. He sat a few rows away.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/ve9u3aga.jpg)
Title: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:48:57
(This Tapatalk is frustrating!)
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 22:39:07
Thanks rowdy. Removal of post is not necessary. We can use this thread as a memorial. This is what we all put on the coworker's desk. He sat a few rows away.
Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/ve9u3aga.jpg)


That is a beautiful tribute.

Hope it's premature, but unfortunately given the time that has passed it might not be :(
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 09 April 2014, 00:53:54
Thanks rowdy. Removal of post is not necessary. We can use this thread as a memorial. This is what we all put on the coworker's desk. He sat a few rows away.
Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/ve9u3aga.jpg)


Very beautiful tribute. :'(

Are there 1k cranes there?
Title: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 09 April 2014, 01:02:34
I don't think there are 1K. A few hundreds, maybe. These are made by coworkers who drop by. They made it on the spot. We have some cranes hanging from the ceiling, over the desk. I didn't take those photo, in order to be anonymous.

Edit: grammar.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: pexon on Wed, 09 April 2014, 06:55:44
That is beautiful. I'm sure some of the comments in this thread are not comments you'd wish to hear at the moment.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 09 April 2014, 09:18:31
I wish you, your friends, and your loved ones all the best, Belfong. It's easy to think of a tragedy like this as happening "over there," forgetting that we're an international community and that some of us have have been affected greatly.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 09 April 2014, 09:21:16
Thanks everyone! Your thoughts and prayers will be comforting to many of the affected families here in Malaysia and everywhere else.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 09 April 2014, 09:46:15
belfong, my condolences to your loss, your employer's loss and the loss of everyone who knew the missing. geekhack is with you guys  :'(
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 10 April 2014, 08:13:50
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

I am not sure what I was thinking when I made this comment, probably just looking for a few laughs at the expense of the missing plane.  But I realized shortly afterwards that it was in very poor taste.  Perhaps I should not have written out my thoughts.  My consciousness and empathy always seem to prevail when I make an offending or insulting comment, and my original comments have weighed on my mind.  I am sincerely sorry for my insensitivity. Knowing that a geekhacker has been affected by this tragedy really hits home, and reminds me of similar tragedies that have occurred to people that I have known.  The pictures of the dedication are especially touching.

I know my comment might mean much considering my original offending comment, but I hope my apology can be accepted.
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 08:20:42
Prediction:  the most recent ping that has been recorded in the past few days actually is a Filco at the bottom of the ocean, tossed into the ocean by an angry geekhacker on a cargo ship.

I am not sure what I was thinking when I made this comment, probably just looking for a few laughs at the expense of the missing plane.  But I realized shortly afterwards that it was in very poor taste.  Perhaps I should not have written out my thoughts.  My consciousness and empathy always seem to prevail when I make an offending or insulting comment, and my original comments have weighed on my mind.  I am sincerely sorry for my insensitivity. Knowing that a geekhacker has been affected by this tragedy really hits home, and reminds me of similar tragedies that have occurred to people that I have known.  The pictures of the dedication are especially touching.

I know my comment might mean much considering my original offending comment, but I hope my apology can be accepted.
Humor has always been used as a coping mechanism for tragedy, making light of a situation because we don't want to accept what has happened. Naturally, many people's first response to something is a joke, not because we are insensitive, but because it is human nature
Title: Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 10 April 2014, 08:25:19
I think I should say that I'm not offended as I know very well this is the Internet and things like this happened. It's just that when more and more people continue, I just thought it's better for me to voice out as it could get out of hand. And I have no intention of making anyone feel bad or anything. It's just that I feel it's better for me to say something as there are a few Malaysians here and other nationals as well. So, I'm not trying to make a scene too. Regardless, no offense taken, prdlm2009.