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Title: GeekHack Community Survey - Post Survey Discussion
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 11 March 2014, 02:51:20
The survey is now over! Results have been posted here to keep things tidy, thanks to everyone for participating!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56662.0 (The thread appears to be "Awaiting Approval")


This thread will be for discussion the execution of the survey and providing feedback for next time.

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Community Survey is live! Link is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Mxhx-pdu21SdIDl1FRX4yah-OfLNiXbrJU7j3gqklP8/viewform

Submissions will be close on March 31st 11:59 PST.

If you have the time, please fill out this community survey! I will personally send something (not sure what yet) to a random submission, so you can also think of this as a raffle!

Thank you!

PS. Let me know if there are any issues with the form.

Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:14:17
Polls pertaining to what?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:20:08
Polls pertaining to what?
Communism?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:21:14
Too bad they banned troll polls, those were always entertaining...
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:34:05
Demographics, like age, gender, location, ethnicity, etc. and also maybe stuff about mechs, such as favorite brand, switch, keycap set, what have you. I think the information could be rather interesting if enough people provided information.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:42:30
Demographics, like age, gender, location, ethnicity, etc. and also maybe stuff about mechs, such as favorite brand, switch, keycap set, what have you. I think the information could be rather interesting if enough people provided information.

They used to have several of those types of polls, but ever since they limited polls to the IC/GB/Classifieds subs they died down.

I distinctly remember voting in several "What's your favorite switch?" polls, as well as favorite keycap material, favorite stabilizers, and other similar polls.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: atlas3686 on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:48:59
That is a pity, I would love to be able to get an idea of the community's preferences etc.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:56:46
Maybe if we ask the mods nicely they'll re-enable polls? After all, the reason for their being removed hasn't logged onto GH in a good long while...

It would be beneficial to have access to an information-gathering tool such as polls.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 11 March 2014, 09:42:24
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 March 2014, 09:46:10
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

That is 100% acceptable. They only removed the native polls because some people would create totally pointless polls that weren't helping the community in any way...

Looking forward to participating in your poll. :thumb:
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 March 2014, 09:46:58
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 11 March 2014, 09:56:51
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.

Of course, but I can't go door to door :))
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: demik on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:04:02
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.
Why do you need so much data?

You working for the government?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:05:40
NSA
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Novus on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:30:01
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.

Wait...WHAT?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:37:51
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.


(http://i.imgur.com/GxpSUa5.gif)
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:57:07
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:59:47
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

poll subforum?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:10:13
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

poll subforum?
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:10:28
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

x2.

poll subforum?

Also x2. Didn't there used to be one? Or at least an old polls archive?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:26:01
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.

Just add an "are you lying" option to the poll and filter out anyone who checks "yes".
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 11 March 2014, 19:52:02
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.

Just add an "are you lying" option to the poll and filter out anyone who checks "yes".

I could just put some honeypot answers in the poll and negate anyone who picks them.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 11 March 2014, 19:56:08
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

Where is Microsoft Windows? Haven't seen him in a while
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 March 2014, 20:00:01
Could I make a Google form with a bunch of questions and link to it externally? Technically wouldn't be the forum polls.

You could but do realize this is the internet and people will lie.

Just add an "are you lying" option to the poll and filter out anyone who checks "yes".


Is that a single image in your signature? It looks cool! How did you make it?
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Tue, 11 March 2014, 22:32:31
Is that a single image in your signature? It looks cool! How did you make it?

It's one image file made from editing a bunch of keyboard pixel arts together. Some were modified from other's work, some were made from scratch. There's a bunch in this thread-
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: RESPRiT on Wed, 12 March 2014, 02:40:20
Here's a list of questions that I quickly came up with. There's a lot, but I'm thinking I might make the survey also a raffle for something, although people might abuse that fact..

Thoughts?

List:
More
^=Don’t know enough to answer option

Demographics
Age
Gender
Ethnicity
Residency
Employment
Relationship Status

Keyboards
How many do you currently own?
How many have you ever owned?
Which brands have you owned?
Favorite brand?^
What size do you prefer? (104, TKL, 60%, etc.)^
What casing do you prefer? (Plastic, Acrylic, Metal, etc.)^

Keycaps
How many keysets do you own? (Raindrop, CCnG, Hyperfuse, etc.)
How many “cheap” novelty keys do you own? (Keypop, Techkeys, etc.)
How many “moderately expensive” keycaps do you own? (Bingecaps, Cap Crafters, Gasmask, etc.)
How many “special” keycaps do you own? (Click Clacks, BroBots, GirlDC, etc.)
What materials have you tried?
What material is your favorite?^
What is your favorite keyset?^
What is your favorite profile height?^ (OEM, Cherry, etc.)
What is your favorite keycap family?^ (DCS, DSA, SA, etc.)

Switches
How many switches do you own?
How many switches have you tried?
What is your favorite switch?^ (Any)
What is your favorite Cherry switch?^
What is your favorite Topre weight?^

Typing
What is your average WPM?
What international layout do you use? (ANSI, ISO, JIS)
What alphanumeric layout do you use? (QWERTY, DVORAK, COLMAK)
Do you use Control in the Caps Lock position?
Which shift do you use?
Do you use the fn layer?
Which side do you prefer the fn key?

Shopping
How do you buy your keyboards?
Can you buy keyboards locally where you live?^
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: iri on Wed, 12 March 2014, 06:21:57
Demographics
Age: 28
Gender: male
Ethnicity: russian
Residency: russia
Employment: yes
Relationship Status: yes

Keyboards
How many do you currently own? 2
How many have you ever owned? a dozen or two
Which brands have you owned? BW, QF, cherry, topre, unicomp, matias, apple, UTT
Favorite brand? probably topre, but i can't use it.
What size do you prefer? (104, TKL, 60%, etc.)^ full size.
What casing do you prefer? (Plastic, Acrylic, Metal, etc.)^ plastic

Keycaps
How many keysets do you own? (Raindrop, CCnG, Hyperfuse, etc.) two
How many “cheap” novelty keys do you own? (Keypop, Techkeys, etc.) none
How many “moderately expensive” keycaps do you own? (Bingecaps, Cap Crafters, Gasmask, etc.) i'm a sane person
How many “special” keycaps do you own? (Click Clacks, BroBots, GirlDC, etc.) still a sane person
What materials have you tried? abs, pbt, pom
What material is your favorite?^ pbt of course
What is your favorite keyset?^ rainbow pbt
What is your favorite profile height?^ (OEM, Cherry, etc.) not sure
What is your favorite keycap family?^ (DCS, DSA, SA, etc.) no idea

Switches
How many switches do you own? half a dozen i guess
How many switches have you tried? a dozen i guess
What is your favorite switch?^ (Any) among those i can use -- panda clears. but in theory such switch would be 55g topre or some other good rubber dome.
What is your favorite Cherry switch?^ panda clears
What is your favorite Topre weight?^ probably 55g, as 45g is a bit too light for me. though pleasant.

Typing
What is your average WPM? 55
What international layout do you use? (ANSI, ISO, JIS) only ansi. hate iso.
What alphanumeric layout do you use? (QWERTY, DVORAK, COLMAK) qwerty / йцукен
Do you use Control in the Caps Lock position? of course i do
Which shift do you use? both
Do you use the fn layer? only on laptops
Which side do you prefer the fn key? both

Shopping
How do you buy your keyboards? cases / pcbs i buy locally, and all other stuff online, mostly in china.
Can you buy keyboards locally where you live?^ of course i can, i don't live in taiga
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:09:03
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

Where is Microsoft Windows? Haven't seen him in a while

He's busy with college and work and stuff, plus he got bored of trolling around here so he kinda just stopped posting.

I talked to him not too long ago, and he said he barely even uses computers anymore except for at work (he works in his college IT dept.)
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:14:48
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

x2.

x3.

Although it actually sounds like a Google Form is better suited to the task in this case, given the number and scope of questions RESPRiT wants to ask.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:17:59
I'd be in favor of allowing polls again for everyone except Microsoft Windows. :thumb:

x2.

x3.

Although it actually sounds like a Google Form is better suited to the task in this case, given the number and scope of questions RESPRiT wants to ask.

Yeah I'd agree with that. This situation requires something a bit more complex than a simple poll. Although it will still be nice to have them back (with some restrictions on certain people, of course *cough MW cough*)




Poll info filled out:

Demographics
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White (and nerdy)
Residency: USA
Employment: Yes
Relationship Status: Forever alone

Keyboards
How many do you currently own? 8
How many have you ever owned? Alot more than 8
Which brands have you owned? IBM, Ducky, CM, SiiG, TG3, Focus, Chicony, and Genius (cheap Chinese board)
Favorite brand?^ Tied between IBM and Ducky
What size do you prefer? (104, TKL, 60%, etc.)^ TKL
What casing do you prefer? (Plastic, Acrylic, Metal, etc.)^ No preference

Keycaps
How many keysets do you own? (Raindrop, CCnG, Hyperfuse, etc.) None yet, one on the way soon
How many “cheap” novelty keys do you own? (Keypop, Techkeys, etc.) A bunch, but not as many as I used to have.
How many “moderately expensive” keycaps do you own? (Bingecaps, Cap Crafters, Gasmask, etc.) None currently, previously owned a couple Gasmasks
How many “special” keycaps do you own? (Click Clacks, BroBots, GirlDC, etc.) One HO CC, one Unicorn Blood MX V2 BroBot (will be in my mailbox when I get home today)
What materials have you tried? ABS, PBT
What material is your favorite?^ No preference really
What is your favorite keyset?^ No favorite since I currently don't have any
What is your favorite profile height?^ (OEM, Cherry, etc.) Again, no preference really
What is your favorite keycap family?^ (DCS, DSA, SA, etc.) DCS

Switches
How many switches do you own? Umm, like loose switches or...? (if yes, then like 10 at most)
How many switches have you tried? about 12
What is your favorite switch?^ (Any) either BS or MX Blues
What is your favorite Cherry switch?^ MX Blues
What is your favorite Topre weight?^ Never tried Topre (it's on my wishlist though)

Typing
What is your average WPM? It varies depending on the task, but up to like 50wpm (I know, that's slow!)
What international layout do you use? (ANSI, ISO, JIS) ANSI
What alphanumeric layout do you use? (QWERTY, DVORAK, COLMAK) QWERTY
Do you use Control in the Caps Lock position? No
Which shift do you use? Mostly Left Shift, sometimes Right
Do you use the fn layer? Sometimes
Which side do you prefer the fn key? Right side

Shopping
How do you buy your keyboards? Online mostly, I did get one from Goodwill though
Can you buy keyboards locally where you live?^ Maybe, I've never really looked for them locally...


Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: RESPRiT on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:03:07
I just finished a Google Form for responses, if you don't mind resubmitting your answers there, that would be great! The link should be in the OP.
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:06:21
No link in the OP??
Title: Re: Community Poll/Census?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:07:07
No link in the OP??

Was gonna say the same thing, but it's there now. :thumb:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:14:32
Done, now someone here knows me better than my relatives. LOL.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:17:41
Survey has been surveyed.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: isaske on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:20:26
done :thumb:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:52:40
Done. Nice survey!

Although, I had to guess on some items, like "how many keyboards do you own," "how many keyboards have you ever owned," and "how many keysets do you own." ;D
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: histevenhere on Wed, 12 March 2014, 10:22:14
Submitted!
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:02:48
What will be done with this information?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:13:49
I'll compile it all together and release the statistics for everything, and also the raw data as well probably.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:14:36
hot raw data
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:14:39
I'll compile it all together and release the statistics for everything, and also the raw data as well probably.

I guess more specifically will you be releasing what user entered what information?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:19:09
I'll compile it all together and release the statistics for everything, and also the raw data as well probably.

I guess more specifically will you be releasing what user entered what information?

Ahh, I can see how that could be a concern. The main report will just be cumulative stats, so it wouldn't be possible to know who said what, but the raw data would reveal that. In that case, I'll probably remove names and/or responses that would indicate a person's identity in the raw report.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:23:57
I'll compile it all together and release the statistics for everything, and also the raw data as well probably.

I guess more specifically will you be releasing what user entered what information?

Ahh, I can see how that could be a concern. The main report will just be cumulative stats, so it wouldn't be possible to know who said what, but the raw data would reveal that. In that case, I'll probably remove names and/or responses that would indicate a person's identity in the raw report.

Sound good then, form filled! :thumb:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:42:09
Filled, look forward to the results. Thanks RESPRiT
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 March 2014, 12:37:02
Just release the summary I do not want these fellows to know I am this young.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 12 March 2014, 12:40:04
Filled out.

How many entries do you have so far?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: demik on Wed, 12 March 2014, 12:43:00
Somebody is going to guess passwords off this info
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 March 2014, 12:56:48
Again, just release the summaries, it is not safe to share the full data.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 13:04:09
Just release the summary I do not want these fellows to know I am this young.


Again, just release the summaries, it is not safe to share the full data.

Are you 13?  :p ;D
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:23:17
Done. I did it on my phone, my name may be misspelled.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:33:31
Submitted! This must have been a real eye opener for some people haha. :D
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:45:47
You gonna post the results sprit?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:06:22
So I completed the survey, but I couldn't put down that I've owned more then 100 boards. It wouldn't let me continue so I set it to 99.

:(
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:46:08
For switch, please show difference between tactile and linear gray

Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:50:27
For switch, please show difference between tactile and linear gray



too late it would mess up the previous results at this point :eek:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:52:59
For switch, please show difference between tactile and linear gray



too late it would mess up the previous results at this point :eek:

Ugh, that sucks.

Also if u do r2 have F and M instead of just general Buckling springs
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:05:12
Just release the summary I do not want these fellows to know I am this young.


Again, just release the summaries, it is not safe to share the full data.

Are you 13?  :p ;D


12
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Binge on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:23:52
totally lied about my age and gender  :))
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:43:11
totally lied about my age and gender  :))
I like living dangerous, too.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: MissMurd3r84 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:51:17
Your response has been recorded! Thanks for participating!
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:40:08
And submitted my data.

No creeping on me now.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:50:05
44 responses so far, thanks everyone! I'll close submissions at the end of the month, keep it up!
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: wcass on Wed, 12 March 2014, 21:44:27
You so should do the same survey on Deskthority too. I think that it would show that the biggest differences between the two is time zone. GH is mostly the Americas and East Asia; DT is mostly Europe. I read and post to both, but am drawn into more conversations here at GeekHack.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Wed, 12 March 2014, 21:54:58
You so should do the same survey on Deskthority too. I think that it would show that the biggest differences between the two is time zone. GH is mostly the Americas and East Asia; DT is mostly Europe. I read and post to both, but am drawn into more conversations here at GeekHack.

That's probably a good idea, I'll look into it.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 22:18:33
Done!
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 12 March 2014, 23:44:49
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ebacho on Thu, 13 March 2014, 02:10:30
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

It's r/mechanicalkeyboards, what did you expect.  In some respects, I miss the days when I only had one choice though.

Also, survey filled.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 13 March 2014, 02:28:00
Gawd. I feel so ashamed on the last page of the form.

No
No
No
1

 :'(
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Novus on Thu, 13 March 2014, 02:31:38
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 13 March 2014, 05:38:19
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Thu, 13 March 2014, 05:40:15
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Yeah, I saw that, the results were more or less what I expected, so it wasn't very interesting. Numbers and stats are cool, but I wanted something more fleshed out then what they did.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: infiniti on Thu, 13 March 2014, 06:37:37
Done! :cool:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:46:02
Filled it out this morning, interested to see the statistics :thumb:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 13 March 2014, 12:30:49
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 13 March 2014, 13:03:04
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
Yes, but would that be unfair? At least three of my friends and I have one than more board.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 13 March 2014, 13:11:01
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
Yes, but would that be unfair? At least three of my friends and I have one than more board.

Judging by that last sentence, no, not unfair at all...
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 13 March 2014, 13:15:21
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
And that would be unfair?

What the1onewolf meant is that it would be unfair to hold it against the population of r/mechanicalkeyboards that most of them have only one mechanical keyboard, since most of them are under 20.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:14:48
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
And that would be unfair?

What the1onewolf meant is that it would be unfair to hold it against the population of r/mechanicalkeyboards that most of them have only one mechanical keyboard, since most of them are under 20.


Thus, if I have more than one keyboard I should be, what? over 60?  :))
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:46:54
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
And that would be unfair?

What the1onewolf meant is that it would be unfair to hold it against the population of r/mechanicalkeyboards that most of them have only one mechanical keyboard, since most of them are under 20.


Thus, if I have more than one keyboard I should be, what? over 60?  :))
Apparently It's more likely that I am 21 rather than 13.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:02:53
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
And that would be unfair?

What the1onewolf meant is that it would be unfair to hold it against the population of r/mechanicalkeyboards that most of them have only one mechanical keyboard, since most of them are under 20.


Thus, if I have more than one keyboard I should be, what? over 60?  :))

Well, it just implies that you're financially responsible for the expenditure of your money and that most kids don't usually have disposable income to make their wallets cry out in protest.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:05:17
They just did something similar over at /r/MechanicalKeyboards http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0 (http://imgur.com/a/uXq70#0)
 I do hope there's a better showing than that shameful 50% of people who don't own more than 1 board.

Well to be fair they're all under 20 over there.
As opposed to what?

As opposed to older than 20.
And that would be unfair?

What the1onewolf meant is that it would be unfair to hold it against the population of r/mechanicalkeyboards that most of them have only one mechanical keyboard, since most of them are under 20.


Thus, if I have more than one keyboard I should be, what? over 60?  :))

Well, it just implies that you're financially responsible for the expenditure of your money and that most kids don't usually have disposable income to make their wallets cry out in protest.


Ah well I am very responsible, I set like 20% of my income for keyboards,  ;D . LOL, I'd like to do it though, but no way.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: iri on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:58:17
i have no ****ing idea what you're discussing here. wanna see a video of a cat waving its paws?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 13 March 2014, 16:22:01
i have no ****ing idea what you're discussing here. wanna see a video of a cat waving its paws?

I think you know the answer to that question.







it's yes
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 13 March 2014, 16:23:55
i have no ****ing idea what you're discussing here.

Something about reddit... I tune out when I hear that word.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:11:56
i have no ****ing idea what you're discussing here.
Does it matter? welp if this is going to derail or something I'm going to bed for safety

cya dudes
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:59:12
Let's see the statistics...
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: billnye on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:16:17
Good questions!

Interested in seeing the results.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:29:00
Let's see the statistics...

After the responses are done being collected :P
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:29:44
Let's see the statistics...

After the responses are done being collected :p


Taking my chill pill then...
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: remdell on Fri, 14 March 2014, 01:15:52
Quote
Which switch types do you own?

*puts a ton of Alps switches into "Other:"*
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Fri, 14 March 2014, 22:20:03
78 Responses so far! Looking good, but the more the merrier, and a few of them are trolls :|
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 15 March 2014, 00:51:14
78 Responses so far! Looking good, but the more the merrier, and a few of them are trolls :|


Let us see the statistics, please...?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 15 March 2014, 00:59:59
I own 50+ keyboards. All of them Cherry MY.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 15 March 2014, 01:28:23
Filled.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Sat, 15 March 2014, 02:59:57
78 Responses so far! Looking good, but the more the merrier, and a few of them are trolls :|


Let us see the statistics, please...?

Submissions will be closed at the end of the month. I'm not going to publish the raw stats, so there's going to be a short bit of time as I compile things together.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:53:39
and a few of them are trolls :|
Really?  :'(
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:01:30
and a few of them are trolls :|
Really?  :'(

Probably ripster fanboys after his post in his ego stroking subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Ripster/comments/208krp/geekwhacker_poll_is_the_longest_in_keyboard/). 
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Novus on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:33:40
Man that guy has some serious issues. He should be institutionalized. Its a wonder that he is a functioning member of society.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:52:10
Ripster? More like... R.I.P Going up the STERS and... Outside with other people...?

Was that good?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:54:17
Ripster? More like... R.I.P Going up the STERS and... Outside with other people...?

Was that good?

Not sure if it's just me, but why does it seem like almost everything you say doesn't make any sense at all?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:49:43
Ripster? More like... R.I.P Going up the STERS and... Outside with other people...?

Was that good?

Not sure if it's just me, but why does it seem like almost everything you say doesn't make any sense at all?

I don't know.
Do you want me to thoroughly explain stuff I say, since you keep pointing it out?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Sun, 16 March 2014, 03:38:51
and a few of them are trolls :|
Really?  :'(

Probably ripster fanboys after his post in his ego stroking subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Ripster/comments/208krp/geekwhacker_poll_is_the_longest_in_keyboard/).

There is an entry for "Ripster". Whether it's actually him or not, I don't really know, but if the trolling could be kept on a low that would be greatly appreciated. I don't really care what he thinks about GH or not, but there's no reason to mess with this poll.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 16 March 2014, 10:53:27
So I completed the survey, but I couldn't put down that I've owned more then 100 boards. It wouldn't let me continue so I set it to 99.

:(

This. Very irritating.

And such a Cherry-centric set of questions. It is insulting to those of us who think that Cherry switches are 2nd class in many ways.

Above and beyond that, questions focused on new and current boards rather than vintage stuff.

Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: iri on Sun, 16 March 2014, 11:31:16
i need a "buckling spring is 2nd class" option.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:19:37
So I completed the survey, but I couldn't put down that I've owned more then 100 boards. It wouldn't let me continue so I set it to 99.

 :(

This. Very irritating.

And such a Cherry-centric set of questions. It is insulting to those of us who think that Cherry switches are 2nd class in many ways.

Above and beyond that, questions focused on new and current boards rather than vintage stuff.


You just put us Cherry users in a "class" here. LOL. Well, I love my keyboard so no offense taken, but I'd prefer arguments based on facts, than empty remarks like that. Of course you were "irritated", so I should understand the comment as coming from somewhere else, but your brain.  ;)
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: wcass on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:46:34
I agree that switch selection on future surveys should stop at switch "family" for all (Cherry, Topre, Alps, buckling spring, scissor, membrane, virtual/touch, reed/hall, other). A follow-up question could ask for switch genus and species. You might also do a "rate from 1 to 5 each of these switches" - if one switch get a 5 and every other switch gets a 1, or if virtual/touch gets anything but a 1 - that is a troll.

It might also be nice to have people rate from 1 to 5 various layouts (ignoring switches and brands normally associated) from "keyboard pixel art" representations.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:48:12
I agree that switch selection on future surveys should stop at switch "family" for all (Cherry, Topre, Alps, buckling spring, scissor, membrane, virtual/touch, reed/hall, other). A follow-up question could ask for switch genus and species. You might also do a "rate from 1 to 5 each of these switches" - if one switch get a 5 and every other switch gets a 1, or if virtual/touch gets anything but a 1 - that is a troll.

It might also be nice to have people rate from 1 to 5 various layouts (ignoring switches and brands normally associated) from "keyboard pixel art" representations.


That would be cool! Is there a site with pixel art to pick them up?
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:49:04

You just put us Cherry users in a "class" here. LOL. Well, I love my keyboard so no offense taken, but I'd prefer arguments based on facts, than empty remarks like that. Of course you were "irritated", so I should understand the comment as coming from somewhere else, but your brain.

Normally I ignore responses such as this, but first, I have said nothing whatsoever about "Cherry users", I only remarked that Cherry switches are not the only switches out there, and, additionally, that they are not considered particularly "good" or "desirable" by many users (and I will freely admit that "we" (whatever class or group you fabricate around "us", whoever "we" are) may be the minority) and that a multitude of other options are available.

The fact is that more than 100 keyboards have, indeed, passed across my desk, and I have completely disassembled dozens of them to understand how they work.

I certainly do not know everything, and learn something new every day, but I am fairly well-educated in keyboard construction, much of it through hands-on experience.

I feel that comparisons between Cherry switches and Alps switches are appropriate and informative, since these two families have considerable similarities and characteristics. It is bizarre and inappropriate to list out a dozen Cherry switches individually but lump a dozen Alps switches together. And to ignore "similar" switches such as SMK and Monterey is silly.

Then there are at least half a dozen other "major" switch categories that should be explored, and myriad "strange and obsolete" switch types.

Therefore, my criticism of the survey is because of its narrow focus on a subset of the universe of keyboards.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: wcass on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:32:39
...

That would be cool! Is there a site with pixel art to pick them up?

sealcouch does them.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.msg365490#msg365490
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 19:12:16
...

That would be cool! Is there a site with pixel art to pick them up?

sealcouch does them.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.msg365490#msg365490 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.msg365490#msg365490)


Aw, ty wcass.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:23:35

You just put us Cherry users in a "class" here. LOL. Well, I love my keyboard so no offense taken, but I'd prefer arguments based on facts, than empty remarks like that. Of course you were "irritated", so I should understand the comment as coming from somewhere else, but your brain.

Normally I ignore responses such as this, but first, I have said nothing whatsoever about "Cherry users", I only remarked that Cherry switches are not the only switches out there, and, additionally, that they are not considered particularly "good" or "desirable" by many users (and I will freely admit that "we" (whatever class or group you fabricate around "us", whoever "we" are) may be the minority) and that a multitude of other options are available.

The fact is that more than 100 keyboards have, indeed, passed across my desk, and I have completely disassembled dozens of them to understand how they work.

I certainly do not know everything, and learn something new every day, but I am fairly well-educated in keyboard construction, much of it through hands-on experience.

I feel that comparisons between Cherry switches and Alps switches are appropriate and informative, since these two families have considerable similarities and characteristics. It is bizarre and inappropriate to list out a dozen Cherry switches individually but lump a dozen Alps switches together. And to ignore "similar" switches such as SMK and Monterey is silly.

Then there are at least half a dozen other "major" switch categories that should be explored, and myriad "strange and obsolete" switch types.

Therefore, my criticism of the survey is because of its narrow focus on a subset of the universe of keyboards.

I agree, and I'd like to add that this logic should make its way into the next survey. I think this survey makes for a good starting point and certainly leads to a good discussion.

Cherry MX is a very interesting mechanical switch because there are so many unique variations (ex clicky blue vs linear grey). Much like alps, but in much higher production. Cherry has become a very popular switch type among keyboard enthusiasts because of how common they've become.

I can't wait to see the data :thumb:
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:35:52
In regards to the Alps and "other" switches: I added the "alps" and "other" section because I assumed that I would get significantly less responses for "less popular" switches, Alps especially. While I agree that there are many times of switches and all should be compared, it should be noted that many less people will have experience with said switches, and it would be ridiculous to name every single switch type. If it help your concerns, however, I will be sorting out the entries to the "other" section and showing them as their own responses in the final summary. For example if you responded "Black Alps, White Alps", I'll show both separately in the final visuals of the responses. Like Wildcard said, this is just a starting point, so obviously there are improvements that can be made.

With that said, I appreciate the input and that you've put thought into what you've said, because it makes improving future surveys more useful :))
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 06:43:57

many less people will have experience with said switches


Perhaps it would be simpler to create a separate "vintage" survey for keyboard enthusiasts who prefer gear that has not been in production in recent years.

IBM may not have manufactured keyboards during the lifetime of a quarter of the members here, and a buyer shopping for a current modern keyboard may have very little interest in "ancient" or "obsolete" computer equipment.

But some people might consider that far more interesting than a Cherry vs Topre discussion.

Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: osi on Mon, 17 March 2014, 07:27:01
Submitted!
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:15:28

many less people will have experience with said switches


Perhaps it would be simpler to create a separate "vintage" survey for keyboard enthusiasts who prefer gear that has not been in production in recent years.

IBM may not have manufactured keyboards during the lifetime of a quarter of the members here, and a buyer shopping for a current modern keyboard may have very little interest in "ancient" or "obsolete" computer equipment.

But some people might consider that far more interesting than a Cherry vs Topre discussion.

Well, there's nothing stopping us from doing another survey for vintage users, so that might be a good idea. My main fear is that data might be too scattered to be able to visualize it well due to all the variation. With that said, there are probably ways to work around the possible issues, so I encourage anyone who would be interested in that type of data to give suggestions on how such a poll should be run.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:17:44
Okay, I apparently suck at filling out multi-page surveys. I've tried twice, and both times something has happened which has caused my browser to navigate away from the survey, and both times I've not been able to return to my previous spot :P

Will you please delete any entries for riotonthebay, so that I may try a third time?

I'm clearly not cut out for data entry…
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:19:43
something has happened which has caused my browser to navigate away from the survey

Clearly, it is your Cherry keyswitches sending out spurious signals.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:19:43
I can fix data errors fairly easily, thanks for letting me know though! If it becomes a hassle, I can manually enter it for you if you want.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:32:41
I can fix data errors fairly easily, thanks for letting me know though! If it becomes a hassle, I can manually enter it for you if you want.

Thanks. Submitted.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Smasher816 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 11:41:50
Still pretty new here but I submitted mine.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:09:22
Filled out :)
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:31:35
Let us see the statistics!   :-X
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 18 March 2014, 00:31:03
Let us see the statistics!   :-X

I've told you multiple times when the stats will be released..
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 18 March 2014, 01:06:30
Let us see the statistics!   :-X

I've told you multiple times when the stats will be released..


I am telling you that we should take a look at them... :thumb:


Relax, I am just joking. I will keep my mouth shut now.
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: RESPRiT on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:33:12
Only a few more days left!
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! (and also raffle)
Post by: DamnDan on Fri, 28 March 2014, 04:59:42
Submitted :)
Title: Re: GeekHack Community Survey! [CLOSED]
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 01 April 2014, 02:35:09
The response collecting period is now over, thanks to everyone who has participated!