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Title: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 17:38:57
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:30:20
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  But then I found Topre, and I sort of lost the urge. 

FYI:  These keybo's have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:31:02
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  They have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.

also you need new spacebar and bottom row mods
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Candyflip on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:31:24
Arent the mods off center stemmed too?
Edit: I thought so  ;D
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:32:57
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  They have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.

also you need new spacebar and bottom row mods

No, all you need is a spacebar (which is super easy to get from SP nowadays).  The bottom row mods should be fully compatible.  They are all 1.25.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:33:34
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  They have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.

also you need new spacebar and bottom row mods

No, all you need is a spacebar (which is super easy to get from SP nowadays).  The bottom row mods should be fully compatible.  They are all 1.25.

I own two of these boards for parts. Its off centered
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:33:38
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  They have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.

also you need new spacebar and bottom row mods

No, all you need is a spacebar (which is super easy to get from SP nowadays).  The bottom row mods should be fully compatible.  They are all 1.25.
Arent the mods off center stemmed too?
Edit: I thought so  ;D

Are they off-center?  I thought they were regular.  Oh well, stupid Cherry.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:34:40
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  They have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.

also you need new spacebar and bottom row mods

No, all you need is a spacebar (which is super easy to get from SP nowadays).  The bottom row mods should be fully compatible.  They are all 1.25.
Arent the mods off center stemmed too?
Edit: I thought so  ;D

Are they off-center?  I thought they were regular.  Oh well, stupid Cherry.

yup

off center and pad printed

only for g81 POS boards. Regular g81s are all regular
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Candyflip on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:34:57
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:36:58
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.

wrong: only the POS ones
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:41:53
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G818000HPBUS2-Black-PS2-keyboard-3track-magnetic-swipe-Lot-of-23-/141255156447

Man, I wanted to find a new one of those for the longest time.  They have a nearly Filco compatible Cherry double-shot set on them.  All you need is a center-stemmed Caps Lock.  Or you can do mod on the stepped Caps Lock. 

Too bad they look so used and shiny.

also you need new spacebar and bottom row mods

No, all you need is a spacebar (which is super easy to get from SP nowadays).  The bottom row mods should be fully compatible.  They are all 1.25.
Arent the mods off center stemmed too?
Edit: I thought so  ;D

Are they off-center?  I thought they were regular.  Oh well, stupid Cherry.

yup

off center and pad printed

only for g81 POS boards. Regular g81s are all regular

Okai, now I understand.  Only the POS have the off-centered mods.  'Cuz I remember people searching for these a few years back like crazy.  I guess it was the standard G81-8000H-series.  NOT the POS series.  So FYI:  get the non-POS version for a sweet set of cherry double shots.  Otherwise you gotta buy two boards to get one complete set.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:43:03
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.

wrong: only the POS ones
G81-3004LANCH isn't POS and it has off centered spacebar and 1.25mods.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:44:42
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.

wrong: only the POS ones
G81-3004LANCH isn't POS and it has off centered spacebar and 1.25mods.

Thats strange. I remember reading here that it was the less common non POS MY boards that had regular caps. Do you know if the 3004 is the only one or are there more?
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:46:56
Thats strange. I remember reading here that it was the less common non POS MY boards that had regular caps. Do you know if the 3004 is the only one or are there more?
Any Cherry G81 board with thick PBT lasered keycaps, and 1.25x mods will have off center 1.25 mods and off center spacebar.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:50:59
Pic for reference

(http://i.imgur.com/ohvxNK1.jpg)
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: ebacho on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:54:51
Thats strange. I remember reading here that it was the less common non POS MY boards that had regular caps. Do you know if the 3004 is the only one or are there more?
Any Cherry G81 board with thick PBT lasered keycaps, and 1.25x mods will have off center 1.25 mods and off center spacebar.

There's also a chance to get the weird MY stabilizers that are molded onto the key itself, which means that even if you have a custom board to use the offset spacebar you're out of luck.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:57:02
There's also a chance to get the weird MY stabilizers that are molded onto the key itself, which means that even if you have a custom board to use the offset spacebar you're out of luck.
I think that's only found with thin PBT, right?
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: ebacho on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:57:40
There's also a chance to get the weird MY stabilizers that are molded onto the key itself, which means that even if you have a custom board to use the offset spacebar you're out of luck.
I think that's only found with thin PBT, right?

I've had it happen with the lasered POM ones too.  Cherry why, etc.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 13 April 2014, 19:27:22
All G81 have offset stems on 1.25 modifiers. There is a reason for that madness, which is the membrane matrix is universal for 1.25 and 1.5 mod models and due to trace routing the switch position couldn't be centered. I still think it was dumb, as I can't imagine printing different membranes would cost more than producing new keycap tooling and having to make multiple versions of the same key but... yeah.
As far as in built stabilizers, there is no such thing for doubleshots, at least that I have ever seen so there is no worry. I've yet to see that on POMs either, but I suppose they may have started doing so more recently. You can use those inbuilt stab clip keycaps with costars though.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 19:36:56
All G81 have offset stems on 1.25 modifiers. There is a reason for that madness, which is the membrane matrix is universal for 1.25 and 1.5 mod models and due to trace routing the switch position couldn't be centered. I still think it was dumb, as I can't imagine printing different membranes would cost more than producing new keycap tooling and having to make multiple versions of the same key but... yeah.
As far as in built stabilizers, there is no such thing for doubleshots, at least that I have ever seen so there is no worry. I've yet to see that on POMs either, but I suppose they may have started doing so more recently. You can use those inbuilt stab clip keycaps with costars though.

oh so 1.5 is centered, but only 1.5

because i remember a thread about g81-1800 with 1.5x mods, and it was center stemmed
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 13 April 2014, 20:16:18
Right 1.5 is always all normal, no problem on G80 or whatever other MX that use it. Surprisingly enough it seems Cherry may still be producing 1.5 models with AT cables. At least they still were as recently as 2009 as I have a G81-1800H**US-02 I picked up NOS not too long ago.
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 13 April 2014, 20:57:43
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.

wrong: only the POS ones

right: it's not just POS. It's all G81
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:01:22
There's also a chance to get the weird MY stabilizers that are molded onto the key itself, which means that even if you have a custom board to use the offset spacebar you're out of luck.
I think that's only found with thin PBT, right?

I believe that's thin PBT only as well
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:01:41
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.

wrong: only the POS ones

right: it's not just POS. It's all G81

well actually now I know its inbetween

its all G81 with 1.25x mods, but not for all G81 with 1.5x mods
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:02:53
Yea basically every 81 or MY has off centered mods.

wrong: only the POS ones

right: it's not just POS. It's all G81

well actually now I know its inbetween

its all G81 with 1.25x mods, but not for all G81 with 1.5x mods

For G81s...the 1.25 mods are off centered...yes
Title: Re: 23 G81-8000HPBUS-2
Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 14 April 2014, 06:16:59
We were talking about mods that will be compatible with his Filco in other words 1.25u mods, why are 1.5u mods even discussed? For 1.25 I haven't encountered center stemmed for MY model...