Screw your HHKB. Get a Viper and be happy :D
Get a Viper and be happy :D
Both. Get both.
okay, I'll bite. In for a Viper, I'm guessing there will be more anodizing/ powder coating options? (hopefully something that looks good with Penumbra :D)
Get a Viper and be happy :D
Both. Get both.
This is the best advice in this thread. A true Wallethack answer :P
Probably only if you do it yourself. Most of the Duck buys have offered only silver, a blueish grey, and black.
okay, I'll bite. In for a Viper, I'm guessing there will be more anodizing/ powder coating options? (hopefully something that looks good with Penumbra :D)
Probably only if you do it yourself. Most of the Duck buys have offered only silver, a blueish grey, and black. The lightsaver V2 had a red option.
when, i ask, will we see beige anodizing? has science gone too far?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Responses if anyone's interested
Pretty new here so sorry if this is a dumb question, but when I fill out the form how long do I have to pay for the board?
this might be a stupid question... but i filled out for a eagle and not for a viper, and i'm wondering why most people like the viper more? isn't the eagle exactly the same, except the layout allows for two more keys, instead of control and alt in separate places?
this might be a stupid question... but i filled out for a eagle and not for a viper, and i'm wondering why most people like the viper more? isn't the eagle exactly the same, except the layout allows for two more keys, instead of control and alt in separate places?
I guess people are just bored of the traditional 60% aluminum cases. There are already an abundance of poker styled cases in the wild, but the Viper is the first HHKB style case without using blockers.
I guess people are just bored of the traditional 60% aluminum cases. There are already an abundance of poker styled cases in the wild, but the Viper is the first HHKB style case without using blockers.
With the exception of the KMAC Happy.
Possibly..
Possibly..
Is there anything to do beyond soldering switches and LEDs?
Do you know if you're going to be able to get those blockers with this elton?
goddamnit. as if i wasn't already broke enough with all the goddamned lego coming out this summer...
goddamnit. as if i wasn't already broke enough with all the goddamned lego coming out this summer...
+1.
I need to sell more stuff, but this is a fantastic deal for all that's included.
Just out of curiousity, I noticed some of the pics showed a dedicated number pad unit. Is that going to be offered as well, or just the two different keyboards?
goddamnit. as if i wasn't already broke enough with all the goddamned lego coming out this summer...
+1.
I need to sell more stuff, but this is a fantastic deal for all that's included.
Just out of curiousity, I noticed some of the pics showed a dedicated number pad unit. Is that going to be offered as well, or just the two different keyboards?
There's another group buy by Elton for that Butterfly Pad a long time ago. I wish Duck could do another round though.
More pictures of that here ;)
http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/KEYPAD
Now you're just being cruel. :'(
More pictures of that here ;)
http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/KEYPAD
Eagle fo sho
Gotta make money to pay for all this **** :pEagle fo sho
Ho-fo-sho!
I want a Viper so bad... HHKB-MX looks sick, but I'm not sure if my body is ready.
Don't worry, it won't happen for another month or so lol.
Dear elton5354,
Please excuse an old man's eyesight here but are you actually organizing a Group Buy for a "Viper" - HHKB 60% size keyboard and a separate "Eagle" - Keypad only ?
Just would like to know that it's only for a single keyboard coupled with a keypad. Don't want to place an order for the wrong thing here.......
Viper and Eagle are two different 60% keyboards, no numpad.
Yeah the Viper got me feeling a certain type of way...
/me considers
Has anyone thought of buying the Viper in a HHKB layout and gutting a traditional HHKB keyboard then replacing it within the Viper case?
Can it be done hence getting perhaps the MOST supreme version of a HHKB that will ever be made?
No it can't be done elrick.
The insides are completely different. It wouldn't work at all.
okay, I'll bite. In for a Viper, I'm guessing there will be more anodizing/ powder coating options? (hopefully something that looks good with Penumbra :D)
Probably only if you do it yourself. Most of the Duck buys have offered only silver, a blueish grey, and black. The lightsaver V2 had a red option.
when, i ask, will we see beige anodizing? has science gone too far?
okay, I'll bite. In for a Viper, I'm guessing there will be more anodizing/ powder coating options? (hopefully something that looks good with Penumbra :D )
Probably only if you do it yourself. Most of the Duck buys have offered only silver, a blueish grey, and black. The lightsaver V2 had a red option.
when, i ask, will we see beige anodizing? has science gone too far?
^ This^ I would love to see beige anodizing.
okay, I'll bite. In for a Viper, I'm guessing there will be more anodizing/ powder coating options? (hopefully something that looks good with Penumbra :D)
Probably only if you do it yourself. Most of the Duck buys have offered only silver, a blueish grey, and black. The lightsaver V2 had a red option.
when, i ask, will we see beige anodizing? has science gone too far?
^ This^ I would love to see beige anodizing.
haha i know you guys :P maybe if we get enough interest we could organize a beige-ification step O_O
haha i know you guys :P maybe if we get enough interest we could organize a beige-ification step O_ONow that would be awesome! ;D
is it hard or soft anodizing?
is it hard or soft anodizing?
So far, soft. :( boo!
Well, if the price is like FMJ's hard anodized case then you're looking around $260 just for the case itself..
Well, if the price is like FMJ's hard anodized case then you're looking around $260 just for the case itself..
I would like this but I am not savvy enough to install switches or the complete board.
Is there anyone here offering full assembly service?
Well, if the price is like FMJ's hard anodized case then you're looking around $260 just for the case itself..
Right. FMJ base version with weight hard anodized costs $250. Plus PCB and plate, a kit will cost about $325+. I just got my hands on the soft anodized Duck Orion kit and *personally*, it's as good as hard anodized FMJ (I have both). And I really like the price of Viper/Eagle. It's like free PCB and plate bundled with a 60% case, and even cheaper.
Maybe it's worth mention that FMJ also use 7075 aluminum, which is part of the reason why it's expensive.
What type of aluminium is being used for the Viper?
What type of aluminium is being used for the Viper?
If not specifically mentioned, all aluminum case uses 6xxx aluminum alloy and soft anodization.
What type of aluminium is being used for the Viper?
If not specifically mentioned, all aluminum case uses 6xxx aluminum alloy and soft anodization.
Ah, okay. I don't know a lot about different types of metal, but is the 7xxx much heavier than the 6xxx?
What type of aluminium is being used for the Viper?
If not specifically mentioned, all aluminum case uses 6xxx aluminum alloy and soft anodization.
Ah, okay. I don't know a lot about different types of metal, but is the 7xxx much heavier than the 6xxx?
I know nothing other than that 7xxx is better than 6xxx.
Because it's an IC, I submitted the form for one viper :p
I know nothing other than that 7xxx is better than 6xxx.Sadly, this is not the case.
I know nothing other than that 7xxx is better than 6xxx.Sadly, this is not the case.
from wikipedia (still learning this blank board, so copypasta is faster)
6000 series are alloyed with magnesium and silicon, are easy to machine, and can be precipitation hardened, but not to the high strengths that 2000 and 7000 can reach.
7000 series are alloyed with zinc, and can be precipitation hardened to the highest strengths of any aluminium alloy.
7000 is just harder and more brittle IF it's hardened.
6061 and 7075 are common.
6061 density of 2.7 g/cm^3, yields at 240 MPa minimum (for T6 )
7075 density of 2.81 g/cm^3, yields at 430 MPa minimum (for T6 ) and is significantly more expensive to machine. un-heat treated 7075 is only 275 MPa max though.
goddamnit. as if i wasn't already broke enough with all the goddamned lego coming out this summer...
+1.
I need to sell more stuff, but this is a fantastic deal for all that's included.
Just out of curiousity, I noticed some of the pics showed a dedicated number pad unit. Is that going to be offered as well, or just the two different keyboards?
There's another group buy by Elton for that Butterfly Pad a long time ago. I wish Duck could do another round though.
goddamnit. as if i wasn't already broke enough with all the goddamned lego coming out this summer...
+1.
I need to sell more stuff, but this is a fantastic deal for all that's included.
Just out of curiousity, I noticed some of the pics showed a dedicated number pad unit. Is that going to be offered as well, or just the two different keyboards?
There's another group buy by Elton for that Butterfly Pad a long time ago. I wish Duck could do another round though.
Butterfly matches the case for the eagle/viper?
I love the look of the Viper... but I have no caps to fit it and about six sets for the more standard Eagle.
I love the look of the Viper... but I have no caps to fit it and about six sets for the more standard Eagle.
Don't let this deter you!
The TaiHao Groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58110.0) has cheap Tsangan sets and base sets and they all look really nice.
That's why you should *always* get a tsangan set when you participate a groupbuy.
That's why you should *always* get a tsangan set when you participate a groupbuy.
Does the group buy include these side windows? (http://duck0113.tistory.com/88)
I know nothing other than that 7xxx is better than 6xxx.Sadly, this is not the case.
from wikipedia (still learning this blank board, so copypasta is faster)
6000 series are alloyed with magnesium and silicon, are easy to machine, and can be precipitation hardened, but not to the high strengths that 2000 and 7000 can reach.
7000 series are alloyed with zinc, and can be precipitation hardened to the highest strengths of any aluminium alloy.
7000 is just harder and more brittle IF it's hardened.
6061 and 7075 are common.
6061 density of 2.7 g/cm^3, yields at 240 MPa minimum (for T6 )
7075 density of 2.81 g/cm^3, yields at 430 MPa minimum (for T6 ) and is significantly more expensive to machine. un-heat treated 7075 is only 275 MPa max though.
So if I understand this correctly, the main difference between soft anodized 6061 and hard anodized 7075 is just the hardness?
With this amount of interests, it'll take them longer to produce. I'd say maybe end of July to August..
After Lightsaver V2 group buy. Likely the 3rd week of June.
Depends on the determined date they can finish producing.
I should know when I start the group buy for this..
I find the acrylic sides help disperse the LEDs evenly. You can see from photoelectric's photos with and without the pieces with LEDs on. It looks quite nice. :)
Not that I know of...maybe glue? :)) ;D
Courtesy of photoelectric's photos. You can see the difference with and without the side acrylic.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115329034@N04/sets/72157640117516876/
Someone can run a mini buy to make these in 'Murica?
Interested with the side acrylics for lightsaver v1 if the price is right :thumb: .
I wonder if there's option for frost one, might disperse light more evenly.
I'd want side pieces that have the saver 'x' logo engraved onto it :S
so BOTH the eagle and the viper have side LEDS + normal legend leds?
so BOTH the eagle and the viper have side LEDS + normal legend leds?
Yes. Side LEDS are red by default as well.
Depends on the determined date they can finish producing.
I should know when I start the group buy for this..
Okay, I'm just trying to figure out how long I will have to pay/get the money once you announce that the GB has started.
Not that I know of...maybe glue? :)) ;D
I'd want side pieces that have the saver 'x' logo engraved onto it :S
no no you want cornsides
Yes. Side LEDS are red by default as well.
You can replace those LEDs. They're the SMD kind.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
More detail on photo's thread.
so BOTH the eagle and the viper have side LEDS + normal legend leds?
Yes. Side LEDS are red by default as well.
Awesome. =)
oh man, i just realized, with a name like viper, i'm totally going to have to have to put together some keys to match the colonial viper coloration:Show Image(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/images/2008/11/05/viper_markii660.jpg)
How do the LEDs compare to the Lightsaver? Similar features or much more basic? Trying to decide what I really want.
Are these going to be programmable?
Very cool stuff. Will resistors (and controller) be pre-soldered or no? And if so, you need a different resistor for different colors of leds, correct?
Can anyone give me a (relatively) detailed description on the steps I need to take to assemble this board (or the lightsaver V2), or point me to a guide? I'm interested in learning how to build my own Korean custom! Would I need any aftermarket equipment (screwdriver, soldering iron, etc.)? I'm assuming that the diodes are presoldered.
Can anyone give me a (relatively) detailed description on the steps I need to take to assemble this board (or the lightsaver V2), or point me to a guide? I'm interested in learning how to build my own Korean custom! Would I need any aftermarket equipment (screwdriver, soldering iron, etc.)? I'm assuming that the diodes are presoldered.
Parts you need:
switches
leds (optional)
pcb stabilizers
keycaps
Tools you need:
a soldering iron/station
bunch of solder
hex screwdriver
Steps:
1. install pcb stabilizers to the holes on the pcb
2. attach switches to plate
3. solder switches (which are on plate) to pcb - now pcb and plate are one piece
4. solder leds (optional)
5. screw everything together
It's very simple once you get the soldering down, which is simple also. I'm sure other people more experienced than myself can give more advice. If you run into problems we will help you out. It's a fun process, and the end product is super satisfying. GL.
Can anyone give me a (relatively) detailed description on the steps I need to take to assemble this board (or the lightsaver V2), or point me to a guide? I'm interested in learning how to build my own Korean custom! Would I need any aftermarket equipment (screwdriver, soldering iron, etc.)? I'm assuming that the diodes are presoldered.
Parts you need:
switches
leds (optional)
pcb stabilizers
keycaps
Tools you need:
a soldering iron/station
bunch of solder
hex screwdriver
Steps:
1. install pcb stabilizers to the holes on the pcb
2. attach switches to plate
3. solder switches (which are on plate) to pcb - now pcb and plate are one piece
4. solder leds (optional)
5. screw everything together
It's very simple once you get the soldering down, which is simple also. I'm sure other people more experienced than myself can give more advice. If you run into problems we will help you out. It's a fun process, and the end product is super satisfying. GL.
Thank you! That is exactly what I'm looking for, and also what I'm looking forward to! Do you know any video tutorials or guides I can follow while I get to this point, with all my components in front of me? I'm asking 6 months (maybe more) in advance here though haha, I'm just really excited to pursue this new hobby of mine.
Are these going to be programmable?
More than likely they'll be programmable with the same GUI tools and firmware (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) that Duck's other boards use.
Are these going to be programmable?
More than likely they'll be programmable with the same GUI tools and firmware (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) that Duck's other boards use.
Awesome, thanks!
PS: Is it possible to just get the Duck 60% case somehow? I absolutely love Duck's case designs, and have been itching to build a 60% w/ clears from scratch.
Are these going to be programmable?
More than likely they'll be programmable with the same GUI tools and firmware (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) that Duck's other boards use.
Awesome, thanks!
PS: Is it possible to just get the Duck 60% case somehow? I absolutely love Duck's case designs, and have been itching to build a 60% w/ clears from scratch.
You're going to make your own PCB? I don't think you can buy just the case alone. You can probably sell the PCB itself...
If this group buy's going to have the same amount as this IC, this may be the biggest buy for Korean customs :O
You're going to make your own PCB? I don't think you can buy just the case alone. You can probably sell the PCB itself...
You're going to make your own PCB? I don't think you can buy just the case alone. You can probably sell the PCB itself...
No, I'd probably get either Sprit's PCB or a GH60 PCB
You're going to make your own PCB? I don't think you can buy just the case alone. You can probably sell the PCB itself...
No, I'd probably get either Sprit's PCB or a GH60 PCB
What advantages do those 2 have over this included PCB?
Might as well ask in this thread as well:
Would teal leds for the modifiers, and white for the alphas be possible?
If so, where should I source them?
Also, does anyone know if the Viper supports reactive leds, as in if I press Control, or Shift, only that particular key lights up?
Thanks for the info, dude.Might as well ask in this thread as well:
Would teal leds for the modifiers, and white for the alphas be possible?
If so, where should I source them?
Also, does anyone know if the Viper supports reactive leds, as in if I press Control, or Shift, only that particular key lights up?
What tjcaustin said to me was that 2x3x4mm leds can be found on ebay, and no place else. I'm sure you can find different colors on there. I don't know whether reactive leds would be possible. I'm not familiar with duck firmware.
Thanks for the info, dude.Might as well ask in this thread as well:
Would teal leds for the modifiers, and white for the alphas be possible?
If so, where should I source them?
Also, does anyone know if the Viper supports reactive leds, as in if I press Control, or Shift, only that particular key lights up?
What tjcaustin said to me was that 2x3x4mm leds can be found on ebay, and no place else. I'm sure you can find different colors on there. I don't know whether reactive leds would be possible. I'm not familiar with duck firmware.
Can anyone who owns the Orion, or any other Duck boards comment on their LED settings?
I doubt the Viper's will be wildly different.
Thanks for the info, dude.Might as well ask in this thread as well:
Would teal leds for the modifiers, and white for the alphas be possible?
If so, where should I source them?
Also, does anyone know if the Viper supports reactive leds, as in if I press Control, or Shift, only that particular key lights up?
What tjcaustin said to me was that 2x3x4mm leds can be found on ebay, and no place else. I'm sure you can find different colors on there. I don't know whether reactive leds would be possible. I'm not familiar with duck firmware.
Can anyone who owns the Orion, or any other Duck boards comment on their LED settings?
I doubt the Viper's will be wildly different.
Might as well ask in this thread as well:
Would teal leds for the modifiers, and white for the alphas be possible?
If so, where should I source them?
Also, does anyone know if the Viper supports reactive leds, as in if I press Control, or Shift, only that particular key lights up?
What tjcaustin said to me was that 2x3x4mm leds can be found on ebay, and no place else. I'm sure you can find different colors on there. I don't know whether reactive leds would be possible. I'm not familiar with duck firmware.
Might as well ask in this thread as well:
Would teal leds for the modifiers, and white for the alphas be possible?
If so, where should I source them?
Also, does anyone know if the Viper supports reactive leds, as in if I press Control, or Shift, only that particular key lights up?
What tjcaustin said to me was that 2x3x4mm leds can be found on ebay, and no place else. I'm sure you can find different colors on there. I don't know whether reactive leds would be possible. I'm not familiar with duck firmware.
2x3x4mm leds? the rectilinear ones? do they fit in the switch properly like a round one?
Does anyone have a guess for what the time period is between paying and when we would actually receive the board if this does turn into a group buy? I have never participated in a group buy before, so I am pretty clueless when it comes to this. I am very tempted but the time frame may be the crutch for me. Thanks!
Like 3 times faster than the orion one for sureDoes anyone have a guess for what the time period is between paying and when we would actually receive the board if this does turn into a group buy? I have never participated in a group buy before, so I am pretty clueless when it comes to this. I am very tempted but the time frame may be the crutch for me. Thanks!
I'd say ~2 months if everything goes smoothly. The LightSaver GB finished pretty quickly IIRC.
Does anyone have a guess for what the time period is between paying and when we would actually receive the board if this does turn into a group buy? I have never participated in a group buy before, so I am pretty clueless when it comes to this. I am very tempted but the time frame may be the crutch for me. Thanks!
I'd say ~2 months if everything goes smoothly. The LightSaver GB finished pretty quickly IIRC.
Clearly there is interest, how long till the GB begins?
Elton informed me that Duck COULD offer titanium anodizing, but for $20 extra and only if we wouldn't complain if there was any quality issues.I like!
Elton informed me that Duck COULD offer titanium anodizing, but for $20 extra and only if we wouldn't complain if there was any quality issues.
So wait, when would the GB potentially start and end if it were to happen?
Oh, and how heavy would the Viper be?
Which keys will I be missing out on if I decide to go with a Viper instead of an Eagle?
so to catch up with the thread: when will this happen?
I almost bought an actual HHKB this weekend, I hope this GB happens soon!
:)
I almost bought an actual HHKB this weekend, I hope this GB happens soon!
:)
Why not both? :D
^
I almost bought an actual HHKB this weekend, I hope this GB happens soon!
:)
Why not both? :D
That is my typical stance. I have 2 GH60s and 2 sprit 75%s on the way, plus four current MX-Minis. I'm going to start selling boards. :(
derr....if you don't send me a PM....i'll send you one ;)I almost bought an actual HHKB this weekend, I hope this GB happens soon!
:)
Why not both? :D
That is my typical stance. I have 2 GH60s and 2 sprit 75%s on the way, plus four current MX-Minis. I'm going to start selling boards. :(
Describe dem MX minis
GH60 doesn't even support full LED
I am so glad that I have held out thus far on a 60% keyboard. The one piece Duck aluminum cases just ooze quality.
The only problem is I might have to buy a Eagle AND a Viper. I just cannot decide which I would prefer! :-[
Why not both? :D
Hopefully this question hasn't been asked yet, but does anyone know exactly how configurable the key layout is going to be using the Duck Firmware? Will we be allowed to decide where each individual key goes and whether it is accessible via the Fn layer or not? Or, are there a few layouts that we have to choose from?
Hopefully this question hasn't been asked yet, but does anyone know exactly how configurable the key layout is going to be using the Duck Firmware? Will we be allowed to decide where each individual key goes and whether it is accessible via the Fn layer or not? Or, are there a few layouts that we have to choose from?
Good question. I don't know anything about Duck's firmware either. I'm used to a specific custom layout! If I can't get it with the viper I will cry ;o
Does anyone have any idea where one might be able to purchase a keyset with classic beige and blue text like the one on the eagle in on the duck website? I've looked around and the only thing I could find was the keyset offered through Originative, but it doesn't have the standard ANSI bottom row.
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige
I think I can get some KingSavers, Light Pads, Duck Minis...anyone interested?
I think I can get some KingSavers, Light Pads, Duck Minis...anyone interested?I'm interested in all of them!
They're not going to be in a group buy as there are very limited numbers of them. I will post on classifieds once I get all the details ready.
Mods: I need them on hand first though right if I want to post on classifieds? I am helping TrueCustom, so I don't have any on hand. It's like the group buys where they pay and I have them shipped.
They're not going to be in a group buy as there are very limited numbers of them. I will post on classifieds once I get all the details ready.
Mods: I need them on hand first though right if I want to post on classifieds? I am helping TrueCustom, so I don't have any on hand. It's like the group buys where they pay and I have them shipped.
I think I can get some KingSavers, Light Pads, Duck Minis...anyone interested?Light pads are the keypads, yeah?
They're not going to be in a group buy as there are very limited numbers of them. I will post on classifieds once I get all the details ready.
Mods: I need them on hand first though right if I want to post on classifieds? I am helping TrueCustom, so I don't have any on hand. It's like the group buys where they pay and I have them shipped.
They're not going to be in a group buy as there are very limited numbers of them. I will post on classifieds once I get all the details ready.
Mods: I need them on hand first though right if I want to post on classifieds? I am helping TrueCustom, so I don't have any on hand. It's like the group buys where they pay and I have them shipped.
They're not going to be in a group buy as there are very limited numbers of them. I will post on classifieds once I get all the details ready.
Mods: I need them on hand first though right if I want to post on classifieds? I am helping TrueCustom, so I don't have any on hand. It's like the group buys where they pay and I have them shipped.
They're not going to be in a group buy as there are very limited numbers of them. I will post on classifieds once I get all the details ready.
Mods: I need them on hand first though right if I want to post on classifieds? I am helping TrueCustom, so I don't have any on hand. It's like the group buys where they pay and I have them shipped.
Could you have TrueCustom make a post in the Classifieds with some signed/dated photographs and state that you're the proxy? That should be sufficient :) But really you could have him list those in the Artisan Services section (or list for him with him posting to confirm). I think it makes more sense for these custom keyboards to be listed there.
I am not all too experienced with Duck boards. Are they using plate mounted or PBC mounted stabs? That's the only thing I still need to buy.Apparently most, if not all Korean custom boards use PCB-mounted stabs.
I think I can get some KingSavers, Light Pads, Duck Minis...anyone interested?I want a duck mini.
I think it's just the anodizing issue that might come up like smudging during the anodizing process, spots. etc. To reduce this problem they chose to offer fewer colours to maintain a better quality control.
They can offer it, but they prefer not to that's why they said that.
I know my surgical grade TI ear rings are anodized a specific color. It's soaked in a solution with a electricity applied. If I remember right the level of the voltage determines the color.
Not sure yet...
But here's a pic ...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZUFFpmy.jpg)
Not sure yet...
But here's a pic ...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZUFFpmy.jpg)
Wait is that the Light pad...? (I thought the light pad was a numpad :confused:)
What keyboard is that?
Wait is that the Light pad...? (I thought the light pad was a numpad :confused:)
What keyboard is that?
Kingsaver
Wait is that the Light pad...? (I thought the light pad was a numpad :confused:)
What keyboard is that?
Kingsaver
I have been looking for an aluminum custom high and low and everywhere in between (but not low profile like GON's) :eek:
If there are any extra Kingsaver's, I'd definitely be in for that.
Wait is that the Light pad...? (I thought the light pad was a numpad :confused:)
What keyboard is that?
Kingsaver
I have been looking for an aluminum custom high and low and everywhere in between (but not low profile like GON's) :eek:
If there are any extra Kingsaver's, I'd definitely be in for that.
It's an Alps board.
Wait is that the Light pad...? (I thought the light pad was a numpad :confused:)
What keyboard is that?
Kingsaver
I have been looking for an aluminum custom high and low and everywhere in between (but not low profile like GON's) :eek:
If there are any extra Kingsaver's, I'd definitely be in for that.
It's an Alps board.
Each set will be $220Hi, how much will it be for only the case? I have the plate and pcb
Set includes:
- One piece case
- Assembled PCB without switches
- Plate
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZUFFpmy.jpg)
And here are their steel plates..Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/efdK5Al.jpg)
Hi!
The reason i don't sell in foreign counties is that all of left Kingsavers have defects.
Please understand it.
Thanks!
I am sorry but i only sell it in bulk. You need to buy at least 10set.
Since, they have some defects if you buy it, i will give you pretty good discount.
I don't know the costs yet. Pretty sure they have minor defects such as tiny scratches on the corner or something.By saying "scrathes on the corner", do you mean it's dented or just scrathes?
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/efdK5Al.jpg)
Anyone know what's written on the paper?
Does anyone have any idea where one might be able to purchase a keyset with classic beige and blue text like the one on the eagle in on the duck website? I've looked around and the only thing I could find was the keyset offered through Originative, but it doesn't have the standard ANSI bottom row.
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige
Does anyone have any idea where one might be able to purchase a keyset with classic beige and blue text like the one on the eagle in on the duck website? I've looked around and the only thing I could find was the keyset offered through Originative, but it doesn't have the standard ANSI bottom row.
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige
Closest I could find is what feng is selling:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58539.0MoreShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58539.0;attach=65468;image)[Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58539.0;attach=65472;image)MoreShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58539.0;attach=65496;image)Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58539.0;attach=65500;image)
You'd need to buy two keysets to get both shades of grey, and the blue legends might differ slightly between both sets. Also it's more of a light grey than beige, although it seems quite similar to what you're looking for.
Right, I think I will just get the winkeyless viper and the beige bsp keyset from originative but it doesn't come with a 7x space bar which will be difficult to match color wise. I might just end up getting an aluminum 7x spacebar. Oh also I did manage to find this on taobao but I can't really tell if they even have any available with the blue font. The options seem to indicate it is green and there is no mention of whether the keycaps are thick so I assume they must not be.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.wXTAcM&id=18003469710&scm=1007.10115.744.0&pvid=592e80c2-d089-41bd-a378-9453a1b14f6e
Edit: There is mention of "thick" in the description.
Right, I think I will just get the winkeyless viper and the beige bsp keyset from originative but it doesn't come with a 7x space bar which will be difficult to match color wise. I might just end up getting an aluminum 7x spacebar. Oh also I did manage to find this on taobao but I can't really tell if they even have any available with the blue font. The options seem to indicate it is green and there is no mention of whether the keycaps are thick so I assume they must not be.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.wXTAcM&id=18003469710&scm=1007.10115.744.0&pvid=592e80c2-d089-41bd-a378-9453a1b14f6e
Edit: There is mention of "thick" in the description.
That's imsto dyesub thick pbt. You can PM imsto to see what he has in stock. Check out his sub forum.
Any news on the Duck Minis?
I didn't see it when I was browsing. Can I have a link?Any news on the Duck Minis?
If you're interested in a red one I saw one for sale in classifieds, presumably with any defects.
Yeah it's called light pad but on the PCB it's called butterfly pad lol, so I just picked one.
No word yet...I'll definitely announce when I'm putting these on classifieds.
Regarding the Duck Eagle/Viper group buy:
1. Are the LEDs soldered on the PCB surface mount or through-hole?
2. Do LEDs come presoldered on the PCB?
3. Does the Viper support full LEDs?
4. Someone mentioned the stabs for Korean boards are usually PCB mount - Is that true for the Eagle/Viper boards (PCB or Plate mount stabs)?
5. Does anyone know if the mount holes in the case are compatible with other 60% PCBs like the GH60, FaceW, etc?
Regarding the Duck Eagle/Viper group buy:
1. Are the LEDs soldered on the PCB surface mount or through-hole?
2. Do LEDs come presoldered on the PCB?
3. Does the Viper support full LEDs?
4. Someone mentioned the stabs for Korean boards are usually PCB mount - Is that true for the Eagle/Viper boards (PCB or Plate mount stabs)?
5. Does anyone know if the mount holes in the case are compatible with other 60% PCBs like the GH60, FaceW, etc?
Another question, does this GB come with stabilizers, diodes, LEDs, and the like, or will we have to find our own?
Regarding the Duck Eagle/Viper group buy:
1. Are the LEDs soldered on the PCB surface mount or through-hole?
2. Do LEDs come presoldered on the PCB?
3. Does the Viper support full LEDs?
4. Someone mentioned the stabs for Korean boards are usually PCB mount - Is that true for the Eagle/Viper boards (PCB or Plate mount stabs)?
5. Does anyone know if the mount holes in the case are compatible with other 60% PCBs like the GH60, FaceW, etc?
Regarding the Duck Eagle/Viper group buy:
1. Are the LEDs soldered on the PCB surface mount or through-hole?
2. Do LEDs come presoldered on the PCB?
3. Does the Viper support full LEDs?
4. Someone mentioned the stabs for Korean boards are usually PCB mount - Is that true for the Eagle/Viper boards (PCB or Plate mount stabs)?
5. Does anyone know if the mount holes in the case are compatible with other 60% PCBs like the GH60, FaceW, etc?
Based on my knowledge,
1. The side LED on the bottom of the PCB is surface mount. The others are through holes.
2. The bottom LEDs are presoldered. The others are not.
3. Most certainly yes. Can't see a reason why it's not. It should be the same PCB as Eagle, with corners cut off.
4. I'm 99% sure it's PCB mounted.
With all the talk about all the other sexy Duck boards, is there an estimated time of "grabby hands" for the Viper?
My wallet needs to be lightened!
With all the talk about all the other sexy Duck boards, is there an estimated time of "grabby hands" for the Viper?
My wallet needs to be lightened!
This group buy is supposed to start after the Lightsaver one wraps up. IIRC, from the Lightsaver thread, shipping will occur by 3rd or 4th week of June, so this will probably start sometime in July, conclude in August, production in fall and hopefully ship by the end of the year?
Very rough estimates, and no credible sources either. You're welcome :p
too bad i play a lot of Dota and make heavy use of the function row, otherwise i'd be all over the Eagle
yeah, 75% is close to my ideal layout (which is 60%+ function row). though from what i've seen, there are not as many choices for 75% boards. off the top of my head, i can only think of two: Gon's and Lifezone's. and neither of them have good-looking LEDs like Duck's keyboards do.
yeah, 75% is close to my ideal layout (which is 60%+ function row). though from what i've seen, there are not as many choices for 75% boards. off the top of my head, i can only think of two: Gon's and Lifezone's. and neither of them have good-looking LEDs like Duck's keyboards do.
offtopic question: correct me if i'm wrong, but backlighting is reliant on both the PCB and the quality of LEDs used right?
GON's LEDs look pretty nice too IMO! can't speak for Lifezone, but GON has the cool side LED effect going on and increase in side LED as typing intensity increases and some other features too. Obviously, purely opinion based.it does, but the GON MX-MINI uses an older PCB that doesn't support both side and in-switch LEDs (i asked and he said he won't be releasing the NerD PCB for that layout)
Plate plays a big role. Duck's boards, with steel plate, is ideal for backlighting cuz it's very reflective. Silver anodized aluminum plate is good too, but not as good as steel plate. Others are worse.thanks very much, it's these little intricacies that i have yet to grasp about this hobby
Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
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Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
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Is that originative? The light blue legends looks very sweet.
Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
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Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WuCOq6W.jpg?1)
starting to make some ergo-clears myself in prep for the viper! so anxious lol
Ergo is spring swap, with 62g and 65g being pretty common. I think the main reason for DIp led's is the other ones cause problems with certain keycaps.Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WuCOq6W.jpg?1)
starting to make some ergo-clears myself in prep for the viper! so anxious lol
Nice! What is the difference between a standard and an ergo clear? Did you lube them? Also where did you get those LEDs and are they better than standard dome LEDs?
Ergo is spring swap, with 62g and 65g being pretty common. I think the main reason for DIp led's is the other ones cause problems with certain keycaps.Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WuCOq6W.jpg?1)
starting to make some ergo-clears myself in prep for the viper! so anxious lol
Nice! What is the difference between a standard and an ergo clear? Did you lube them? Also where did you get those LEDs and are they better than standard dome LEDs?
Ergo is spring swap, with 62g and 65g being pretty common. I think the main reason for DIp led's is the other ones cause problems with certain keycaps.Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WuCOq6W.jpg?1)
starting to make some ergo-clears myself in prep for the viper! so anxious lol
Nice! What is the difference between a standard and an ergo clear? Did you lube them? Also where did you get those LEDs and are they better than standard dome LEDs?
Where did you get your DIP LEDs? I will be needing to pick up some, so I'm extra curious.
Ergo is spring swap, with 62g and 65g being pretty common. I think the main reason for DIp led's is the other ones cause problems with certain keycaps.Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WuCOq6W.jpg?1)
starting to make some ergo-clears myself in prep for the viper! so anxious lol
Nice! What is the difference between a standard and an ergo clear? Did you lube them? Also where did you get those LEDs and are they better than standard dome LEDs?
Where did you get your DIP LEDs? I will be needing to pick up some, so I'm extra curious.
exactly what xender said, and yes i also lubed them. i got my leds from ebay. the ones im using now are 2x3x4mm, but i think i might try some 1.8mm. also using sip sockets along with the leds
Ergo is spring swap, with 62g and 65g being pretty common. I think the main reason for DIp led's is the other ones cause problems with certain keycaps.Starting to prepare for the Viper... :D
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WuCOq6W.jpg?1)
starting to make some ergo-clears myself in prep for the viper! so anxious lol
Nice! What is the difference between a standard and an ergo clear? Did you lube them? Also where did you get those LEDs and are they better than standard dome LEDs?
Where did you get your DIP LEDs? I will be needing to pick up some, so I'm extra curious.
exactly what xender said, and yes i also lubed them. i got my leds from ebay. the ones im using now are 2x3x4mm, but i think i might try some 1.8mm. also using sip sockets along with the leds
No way, so you can hot swap them? And you don't have any clearance issues? Do you have any recommended links where I can go read about doing this as well? I've been hesitant to use anything but white LEDs on my boards.
While we're at it...
I also did some preperation!Show Image(http://puu.sh/9N6iD/6f1ce73788.jpg)
Don't worry about the track ball cutout. I also have a german double shot set which I use to replace some keys on the ANSI layout to fit my needs. The ESC key is a funny one. It seems to be an original Cherry key since I found it in a little baggie that was in a box of cables. There were also 2 or 3 Cherry double shots in that baggie. Not sure though. It's thick ABS.
I also have all the things for ergo clears but I want to get SIP sockets for my LEDs before I make them.
Any news on the butterfly pad?
Especially now that this is out: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59950.0
Yeah it's called light pad but on the PCB it's called butterfly pad lol, so I just picked one.
No word yet...I'll definitely announce when I'm putting these on classifieds.
O.M.G......
Been checking This thread every few hours, have email notification for all replies, and checking the classifieds just as often!! Its where elton said he would put up the sale thread when it happens... and only find out about it now that it was put up in a totally different location, and days ago! :'( :'(
Wanted a black light pad but now their all well and truly sold out :(Yeah it's called light pad but on the PCB it's called butterfly pad lol, so I just picked one.
No word yet...I'll definitely announce when I'm putting these on classifieds.
Oh well... Shall try to entertain myself with an alternate number pad GB. Always more things to spend money on, unfortunately :)
A light pad would have been nice...
I am guessing a few days after everything is paid and shipped.
Also, I am currently using my keyboard at an 11° angle and I must say it is very steep :/ Will surely take some time to get used to.
I am guessing a few days after everything is paid and shipped.
Also, I am currently using my keyboard at an 11° angle and I must say it is very steep :/ Will surely take some time to get used to.
Which keyboard is that? Poker II?
I think Eagle/Viper PCBS are ALPS and MX compatible.What?????
Is it just me, or at this price the more direct way to get a HHKB "equivalent" is just to buy an actual HHKB Pro II?
Is it just me, or at this price the more direct way to get a HHKB "equivalent" is just to buy an actual HHKB Pro II?
If you prefer Topre, then yes. If you're a fan of Cherry-MX, like me, then this is extremely appealing. Add the fact that it's programmable (which the HHKB is not) and it becomes quite compelling.
$240 is really not that expensive when you compare the fact that some aluminum cases cost that much.
Yeah, you are right, this is just another bubble in the already twisted GH's economy / market ocean. From time to time I still forget that mundane reality does not have anything to do with mechanical keyboards.
mech keyboards is one of the cheaper hobbies out there, i've found. the top-end is only about $500-$600 (500 for a board and 100 for a smashin' set of caps), whereas the top end in another popular hobby like headphones is 10x that for a pair of Stax, plus the same amount for an amp that can drive the cans which add up to 10k in total
What color are you all planning on getting for your Viper / Eagle? I can't decide. :-\
Different topic. What color are you all planning on getting for your Viper / Eagle? I can't decide. :-\
What color are you all planning on getting for your Viper / Eagle? I can't decide. :-\
Black. I plan on putting some delicious Dolch on there.
Black. I plan on putting some delicious Dolch on there.
QuoteBlack. I plan on putting some delicious Dolch on there.
Sounds good! I could do the same since I joined Ivans GB, I could also go with a silver or blue-grey one since I have an original Cherry double shot set ready. Decisions man.
QuoteBlack. I plan on putting some delicious Dolch on there.
Sounds good! I could do the same since I joined Ivans GB, I could also go with a silver or blue-grey one since I have an original Cherry double shot set ready. Decisions man.
Nice! I remember you were kind of on the fence about it on /r/mechanicalkeyboards a while back. Good on you for joining :D
Was gonna go silver but decided on the blue-gray recently.
Now I want the expensive stuff.
It's probably the right one in this pictureWas gonna go silver but decided on the blue-gray recently.
What exactly does that look like anyways....? I'm having a hard time envisioning such a color in my mind :confused:
Different topic. What color are you all planning on getting for your Viper / Eagle? I can't decide. :-\I'm going with a blue-grey Viper.
QuoteBlack. I plan on putting some delicious Dolch on there.
Sounds good! I could do the same since I joined Ivans GB, I could also go with a silver or blue-grey one since I have an original Cherry double shot set ready. Decisions man.
Nice! I remember you were kind of on the fence about it on /r/mechanicalkeyboards a while back. Good on you for joining :D
I am registered here since last year actually, I just wasn't active until now and lurked a bit. :p Now I want the expensive stuff.
Dat greyShow Image(http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/image/2351B94D53B5F1E72A478D)
At the bottom of the page, you'll see page numbers.
They're currently on page one.
After Lightsaver V2 group buy is finished shipping.
Really interested in this IC and I don't care how much it's gonna cost - I'll pay whatever. Just someone please make this go through and become a successful GB...
Pictures of the PCBShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/897/353/25d00d36ed1bb85f0a0cbdd6004f0bd8.jpg)
Pictures of the PCBShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/897/353/25d00d36ed1bb85f0a0cbdd6004f0bd8.jpg)
It'll be a traditional GB. There is no limit on these, so no need to rush :)There's still that blue-grey shown on the Orion available, right?
Oh and here are the 3 main colours.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/047/323/43147884b27bfe3316ad3aa0f8908127.jpg)
These are for their local group buy in SK sadly. Koreans always comes first for them :blank:
My god lol I think I wanna buy 2 silver vipers and 2 black eagles. So when is the group buy commencing? Just take my f***** money.
There's still that blue-grey shown on the Orion available, right?
My god lol I think I wanna buy 2 silver vipers and 2 black eagles. So when is the group buy commencing? Just take my f***** money.
Champagne problemsOoh, a champagne colored Viper sounds awesome :p
Ooh, a champagne colored Viper sounds awesome :p
Black viper...I need dis.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=3&document_srl=330149
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=4&document_srl=321946
mmmmmmmmmm
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=3&document_srl=330149
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=4&document_srl=321946
mmmmmmmmmm
All the pretty pictures don't make my decision any easier :/
All the pretty pictures don't make my decision any easier :/
What are you trying to choose from?
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Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/149/330/da8d3b02443df1a2a783926a177337e7.JPG)
This is pure heresy, repent!
Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/149/330/da8d3b02443df1a2a783926a177337e7.JPG)
This is pure heresy, repent!
ALPS keycaps on a Viper???wat
Wow, I like that Type-S sticker on the Viper. I wonder if he can get me that...
If so, I totally didn't realize it. Is that also true of the Lightsaver, then?
Looking for an aluminum home for my new Poker II. Will the Poker II fit in the Eagle case?
Looking for an aluminum home for my new Poker II. Will the Poker II fit in the Eagle case?
did you just order one? hehe :))
Looking for an aluminum home for my new Poker II. Will the Poker II fit in the Eagle case?
did you just order one? hehe :))
Yup. Got one on Massdrop.
Looking for an aluminum home for my new Poker II. Will the Poker II fit in the Eagle case?
Where do I buy keyboard?This is an interest check. This group buy wont start until after the lightsaver v2 groupbuy ends. Then you will be able to order it. But don't expect to have anything in your hands for many months to come.
So I found a local shop that might make me some acrylic inserts for both the Light Pad and the Viper, but what do I need to give them, just the .dxf flle Duck posted on his site?I don't know if we know the thickness of them. But the files show the profile of them so if we knew the thickness it shouldnt be hard. You would just tell him which ones you wanted (theres 4 on the file) and how many probably.
Will they know what to do with that, because I sure as hell don't...
So I found a local shop that might make me some acrylic inserts for both the Light Pad and the Viper, but what do I need to give them, just the .dxf flle Duck posted on his site?I don't know if we know the thickness of them. But the files show the profile of them so if we knew the thickness it shouldnt be hard. You would just tell him which ones you wanted (theres 4 on the file) and how many probably.
Will they know what to do with that, because I sure as hell don't...
The thickness may be what 10T and 12T are but thats just a guess.
(http://puu.sh/agw9K/7c9608a3d8.png)So I found a local shop that might make me some acrylic inserts for both the Light Pad and the Viper, but what do I need to give them, just the .dxf flle Duck posted on his site?I don't know if we know the thickness of them. But the files show the profile of them so if we knew the thickness it shouldnt be hard. You would just tell him which ones you wanted (theres 4 on the file) and how many probably.
Will they know what to do with that, because I sure as hell don't...
The thickness may be what 10T and 12T are but thats just a guess.
It seems they are 12T (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206)), but might be different with V2. DXF can be opened with autocad or converted, they should be fine.
Does the layout of the PCB of Viper has been posted yet? I was planning to get sprit's 60% Acrylic plate, cut it and put it on the viper. Is that possible?No idea if it is possible, I wouldn't count on it personally. The pcb was posted a couple pages back though
Does the layout of the PCB of Viper has been posted yet? I was planning to get sprit's 60% Acrylic plate, cut it and put it on the viper. Is that possible?No idea if it is possible, I wouldn't count on it personally. The pcb was posted a couple pages back thoughShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/897/353/25d00d36ed1bb85f0a0cbdd6004f0bd8.jpg)
should be the middle one.
I might be reading too much into it, Xenderwind, but you seem to be watching this thread as obsessively as me ;DHaha, yeah I'm pretty excited XD. I've been using tkl for so long and just recently got a 60% besides my hhkb and realized how much I like the layout. Also realized how much I love 65g blues, especially the part where I don't have to bother lubing them. Sad to see my GON going to get replaced though...might eventually have to sell it.
It very well might work. To be honest I didn't look too much into the layout of the pcb and the plates from Sprit. If I had to make a quick judgement I can see a few problems with the screw placement being off (at least thats what I assume those holes are for on the pcb). For instance the one right below I believe its keys 6 and 7. The screw hole for the sprit plate is actually between the switches instead. I can see the same being a problem for the one by the enter key and maybe the shift one at the very least.Does the layout of the PCB of Viper has been posted yet? I was planning to get sprit's 60% Acrylic plate, cut it and put it on the viper. Is that possible?No idea if it is possible, I wouldn't count on it personally. The pcb was posted a couple pages back thoughShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/897/353/25d00d36ed1bb85f0a0cbdd6004f0bd8.jpg)
should be the middle one.
I see. Thanks. It might be worth a try though seeing acrylic can be easily modified.
It very well might work. To be honest I didn't look too much into the layout of the pcb and the plates from Sprit. If I had to make a quick judgement I can see a few problems with the screw placement being off (at least thats what I assume those holes are for on the pcb). For instance the one right below I believe its keys 6 and 7. The screw hole for the sprit plate is actually between the switches instead. I can see the same being a problem for the one by the enter key and maybe the shift one at the very least.
Does anyone know what if we should but plate mounted or pcb mounted stabs for the viper and eagle plates? I assume plate mounted but I'm not sure.
So I found a local shop that might make me some acrylic inserts for both the Light Pad and the Viper, but what do I need to give them, just the .dxf flle Duck posted on his site?I don't know if we know the thickness of them. But the files show the profile of them so if we knew the thickness it shouldnt be hard. You would just tell him which ones you wanted (theres 4 on the file) and how many probably.
Will they know what to do with that, because I sure as hell don't...
The thickness may be what 10T and 12T are but thats just a guess.
It seems they are 12T (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206)), but might be different with V2. DXF can be opened with autocad or converted, they should be fine.Show Image(http://puu.sh/agw9K/7c9608a3d8.png)
What I meant was I have no idea what 10T and 12T mean. I just assumed it was some form of a measurement of thickness. I would guess it just means mm thick but I would prefer if someone more knowledgeable (or with one of these boards) would confirm.
I'll create the group buy tomorrow.
They already have 70 units ready for us. Just needs to be anodized. :thumb:
I'll create the group buy tomorrow.
They already have 70 units ready for us. Just needs to be anodized. :thumb:
I AM SO READY FOR THIS.
I AM SO READY FOR THIS.
YOU ALREADY HAVE 2 LIGHTSABERS
Won't be up until tonight. I don't know what time you guys work, but I work during the day. ;)
I will be collecting payments right away as I think this will make this group buy a little faster and keep the buyers committed. :P
Won't be up until tonight. I don't know what time you guys work, but I work during the day. ;)
I will be collecting payments right away as I think this will make this group buy a little faster and keep the buyers committed. :P
The hype is real.
Anyone in EU offering assembly service for this buy?
The hype is real.
Anyone in EU offering assembly service for this buy?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50048.0
I'll create the group buy tomorrow.
They already have 70 units ready for us.
I will be collecting payments right away as I think this will make this group buy a little faster
Go go go! I may have already submitted my order.
:p