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was wondering what they feel like. i have never used one, and from sound clips on youtube they sound like a really nice rubber dome.
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
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was wondering what they feel like. i have never used one, and from sound clips on youtube they sound like a really nice rubber dome.
Yes
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
but topre switches do have rubber domes?
They do feel like consistent and extremely smooth rubber domes. I like that the switches (45g) feel pretty light. Overall it's a nice tactile switch that sounds great.
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was wondering what they feel like. i have never used one, and from sound clips on youtube they sound like a really nice rubber dome.
Correct! But with a nice stiff spring! They're very pleasant.
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was wondering what they feel like. i have never used one, and from sound clips on youtube they sound like a really nice rubber dome.
i think they are pretty close, but i would not exactly call it a rd.
i have a olivetti rd that is pretty awesome, even the dell quiet keys for the money are not bad
would like to try a model m that has the rd switches just to see how different the board overall acts and feels
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
but topre switches do have rubber domes?
They do feel like consistent and extremely smooth rubber domes. I like that the switches (45g) feel pretty light. Overall it's a nice tactile switch that sounds great.
Yes, Topre sw has a rubber dome as part of its mechanism, however Topre fans around GH do not like to compare a Topre board with rubber dome's ones.
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was wondering what they feel like. i have never used one, and from sound clips on youtube they sound like a really nice rubber dome.
If I have to describe my topre it will be this.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/201/8/b/stairway_to_heaven_by_xo_natureschild_ox-d56e6x5.jpg)
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Topre is most definitely a rubber dome, but it's not membrane backed - pcb is used instead. The spring is only used to achieve the capacitive coupling, it does not provide other mechanical functions, and all of the force and tactility is the responsibility of the dome itself (and slider, partially, to lower friction).
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
but topre switches do have rubber domes?
They do feel like consistent and extremely smooth rubber domes. I like that the switches (45g) feel pretty light. Overall it's a nice tactile switch that sounds great.
Yes, Topre sw has a rubber dome as part of its mechanism, however Topre fans around GH do not like to compare a Topre board with rubber dome's ones.
i see what you mean. i don't see ppl complaining about it being called a rubber dome though.
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(http://i.imgur.com/IwZMo6U.gif)
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
they are rd...just made with higher quality materials.
Some people have compared dell quiettouch to 45g topre
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do topre feel like the best rubber dome ever?
Yes.
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do topre feel like the best rubber dome ever?
Yes.
Sure.
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The Ultimate Rubber Dome keyboard.
Don't look at the acronym ;)
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Feels like $150 Rubber Dome
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something like that
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It has a lot of "feel" similar to that of a normal rubber dome keyboard..and that is because the part that gives it most of its feel is a rubber dome. That is where all the tactility and resistance comes from...
At the same time, the slider and how the rubber dome and plunger work together all give a much more solid feel when you bottom out..as well as stability when you're pressing it down. The keys also feel a bit more responsive because they activate before you bottom out..
Plus you get the Topre "thock"..
I guess you could call it the best rubber dome keyboard ever..But what does that mean? Nothing...If someone wants to use that as some sort of put down, go ahead..Normal rubber dome keyboards and Topre, while similar, are still very different...I personally enjoy them a lot more than Cherry to type on...just as I enjoy Cherry more to game on because it has that very hard/mechanical/I can spam this feel..
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Troll??
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Troll??
If it angers you?
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was wondering what they feel like. i have never used one, and from sound clips on youtube they sound like a really nice rubber dome.
i think they are pretty close, but i would not exactly call it a rd.
i have a olivetti rd that is pretty awesome, even the dell quiet keys for the money are not bad
would like to try a model m that has the rd switches just to see how different the board overall acts and feels
Honestly the model m rubber dome just feels like a rubber done with a quasi-bottom out point to me. It helps that the board is kinda heavy but it doesn't change the feel of standard rubber domes a whole lot.
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The Ultimate Rubber Dome keyboard.
Don't look at the acronym ;)
Oh Rowdy, how could you insult all the Thorpie Nerdlingers here :)) ?
But YES an excellent statement indeed.
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The Ultimate Rubber Dome keyboard.
Don't look at the acronym ;)
Oh Rowdy, how could you insult all the Thorpie Nerdlingers here :)) ?
But YES an excellent statement indeed.
What's worse, that or Filco?
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What's worse, that or Filco?
No seriously, I can't answer that at all :blank: .
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What's worse, that or Filco?
No seriously, I can't answer that at all :blank: .
Hint: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39517.0
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I use a Realforce 101 (35/45g) at work, and I compared it to the standard dell keyboards. The Topre, while rubber dome, is responsive and tactile (for the most part, the 35g keys are so light). They spring back nicely, have a more consistent feel, allow actuation without bottoming out, and are softer on bottom out. And they make a lovely thock sound while actuating.
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What's worse, that or Filco?
No seriously, I can't answer that at all :blank: .
Hint: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39517.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39517.0)
I actually found your name meaning at Urban Dictionary; rowdy (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rowdy&defid=6557859) crazy, insane, hype, unreal made popular from EzFang and Chengman.
YOOO ITS ABOUT TO GET ROWDY IN HEREE !!!!
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Troll??
If it angers you?
Lol no.
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They feel like rubber domes and breast implants combine.
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I'm more interested in finding out what would a Cherry G86 (a lubed one) with Cherry dyesubs feel like. Unfortunately, they make only dyesub G83 AFAIK and these feel horrible.
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People overreacting to the Troll.
(http://i.imgur.com/gpdSZsJ.gif)
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
but topre switches do have rubber domes?
They do feel like consistent and extremely smooth rubber domes. I like that the switches (45g) feel pretty light. Overall it's a nice tactile switch that sounds great.
Yes, Topre sw has a rubber dome as part of its mechanism, however Topre fans around GH do not like to compare a Topre board with rubber dome's ones.
i see what you mean. i don't see ppl complaining about it being called a rubber dome though.
Yeah you right, they are not complaining, maybe they are just ignoring the remark, or they finally became aware of the truth?, :-\
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
but topre switches do have rubber domes?
They do feel like consistent and extremely smooth rubber domes. I like that the switches (45g) feel pretty light. Overall it's a nice tactile switch that sounds great.
Yes, Topre sw has a rubber dome as part of its mechanism, however Topre fans around GH do not like to compare a Topre board with rubber dome's ones.
i see what you mean. i don't see ppl complaining about it being called a rubber dome though.
Yeah you right, they are not complaining, maybe they are just ignoring the remark, or they finally became aware of the truth?, :-\
I think people don't like it when some just say it is "just" a rubber dome keyboard....which is basically their way of trying to put it down.
It IS a type of rubber dome keyboard...with a bunch of stuff that makes it unlike any normal rubber dome keyboard...
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Short and sweet
Best Rubber Dome : Dell Quietkeys or Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Topre : not rubber dome. Even if there's a real rubber dome, there's a specific category for these boards. It's like saying Tomato Soup versus Minestron Soup. Both have Tomatoes, but the Minestron one is specific.
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Short and sweet
Best Rubber Dome : Dell Quietkeys or Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Topre : not rubber dome. Even if there's a real rubber dome, there's a specific category for these boards. It's like saying Tomato Soup versus Minestron Soup. Both have Tomatoes, but the Minestron one is specific.
Just like technically ALL keyboards are mechanical, but not all are classifed as "mechanical keyboards".
They're rubber dome with conical springs and capacitive sensing... as opposed to rubber dome + membrane.
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Short and sweet
Best Rubber Dome : Dell Quietkeys or Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Topre : not rubber dome. Even if there's a real rubber dome, there's a specific category for these boards. It's like saying Tomato Soup versus Minestron Soup. Both have Tomatoes, but the Minestron one is specific.
Just like technically ALL keyboards are mechanical, but not all are classifed as "mechanical keyboards".
They're rubber dome with conical springs and capacitive sensing... as opposed to rubber dome + membrane.
What about rubber dome over PCB?
Topre is a rubber dome as much as Cherry MY or buckling springs are "mechanical".
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Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Do you have part #'s on these for which to look out for?
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Troll is obvious troll.
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Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Do you have part #'s on these for which to look out for?
I have a M7803 made in 2000 in Malaysia. It's not as awful as I expected.
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Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Do you have part #'s on these for which to look out for?
I can't tell because i never really owned one, i only got to try them. My dad trades a lot of old macs, tablets and phone and stuff and sometime i get to try what he manage to find out in the classifieds. I have to say i have been impressed by some Apple Pro boards because they seriously feel made out of quality for a rubber matrice. The old model which USBs are on it's top sides (to connect a mouse) are really good (early 2000) and then came out the first fill white with a glass backpanel Apple Pro boards with 2 USBs interface on top (about 2003-2004 models) and are pretty nice to type with.
Short and sweet
Best Rubber Dome : Dell Quietkeys or Apple Pro Extended 2000-2004 editions.
Topre : not rubber dome. Even if there's a real rubber dome, there's a specific category for these boards. It's like saying Tomato Soup versus Minestron Soup. Both have Tomatoes, but the Minestron one is specific.
Just like technically ALL keyboards are mechanical, but not all are classifed as "mechanical keyboards".
They're rubber dome with conical springs and capacitive sensing... as opposed to rubber dome + membrane.
I totally understands but i mean as far as i know Topre switches fits a little more into mechanical category than rubber dome category. Since they are considered one appart of the other it would be a shame to say that Topre is part of the rubber dome category :/
It's not really properly defined but looking at the thread title, "Do Topre feel like the best rubber dome ever?", i would say no, because the "best rubber dome ever" in my opinion must be a keyboards that fits and only fits into the rubber dome category.
But this is only my opinion about some sort of loop hole because honestly, i'd say that best rubber dome keyboard that fits only into the rubber dome category is simply a Dell Quietkeys, and good Topre boards such as the HHKBv2 feels way better than usual rubber dome boards.
Troll is obvious troll.
I'm not a troll so please don't reply with any more idiotic comments thanks.
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Some of the best rubberdomes like the Keytronic, Chicony, Dell's RD, while very tactile and almost not mushy, they still don't feel exactly like Topre's. The Topre, after overcoming the 'bump' on top, just collapses into emptiness. No resistance, and almost no spring pushing up against the finger. Because it's capacitive, and physically touching nothing, it slides smoothly as butter. Rubberdomes never behave like this. Actually I still kinda like the good rd's. Cheap and good enough for writing. Soft cushioning and springiness from the dome. Lasts a good few years, maybe a decade use.
But still, Topre is in a whole other league.
I may compare it to driving a Ford Focus mk1 or a Honda Civic EG6 to a Mercedes Benz S Class. Whole the former two are very good cars, with excellent road feedback and reliable. Still it doesn't roll as smooth as a Merc. Both are still excellent.
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Some of the best rubberdomes like the Keytronic, Chicony, Dell's RD....
I Googled Dell RD and came up empty. Is this a rare keyboard or is RD an acronym or ??
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Some of the best rubberdomes like the Keytronic, Chicony, Dell's RD....
I Googled Dell RD and came up empty. Is this a rare keyboard or is RD an acronym or ??
quiettouch
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What sets Topre apart from the typical, cheap rubber dome keyboard is that Topre switches have actual sliding parts. The actual movement of the Topre switch relies on this sliding part, not the rubber, which makes for a much smoother feel, even over Cherry MX switches (because the sliding mechanism for Topre switches is cylindrical). The rubber in Topre switches only serve as the tactile bump; it's not the mechanism with which the Topre switch actually moves. With rubber domes, however, the movement and key action relies solely, and entirely on bending/rubbing the rubber, which is what gives it such a rough and unrefined movement.
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That's great, but what about other rubber domes with actual sliding parts?
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You are gonna be crucified for have said that Topre is a rubber dome keyboard, LOL.
but topre switches do have rubber domes?
They do feel like consistent and extremely smooth rubber domes. I like that the switches (45g) feel pretty light. Overall it's a nice tactile switch that sounds great.
Yes, Topre sw has a rubber dome as part of its mechanism, however Topre fans around GH do not like to compare a Topre board with rubber dome's ones.
i see what you mean. i don't see ppl complaining about it being called a rubber dome though.
Yeah you right, they are not complaining, maybe they are just ignoring the remark, or they finally became aware of the truth?, :-\
hehe, probably. they read your comment and became determined not to prove themselves a prude :p
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Dell Quiet touch rd (Rubber Dome) ;)
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Dell Quiet touch rd (Rubber Dome) ;)
There are at least four kinds of Dell QuietTouch, but only the eldest winkeyless ones, made in Thailand, aren't totally ordinary OEM RDs.
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That's great, but what about other rubber domes with actual sliding parts?
All of the cheap (keyword "cheap") rubber dome keyboards that I've come across did not have sliding parts. I've never used a rubber dome board with sliding parts, so I can't say definitively, but I would assume there can still be differences in the quality of the mechanical parts (the sliding mechanisms), as well as the rubber, as well as the material used for the chassis. Case in point, my Topre board is studier, and its switches are smoother than my Filco with MX Browns, even with thick PBTs on the Filco (contrary to what t4tissue has said). Yes, I understand that MX Browns are naturally "scratchy", but what I mean by Topre switches being smoother is that they have much less wobble, whereas all Cherry MX switches, not just the MX Browns, have wobble (I've tried Reds and Blues). Also the Topre has sub-dyed PBT caps (not just regular PBTs), which I would also assume the other rubber dome boards, even with moving parts, won't have.
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Oh, assumptions... I've just had my hands on a Cherry G83-something with thick PBT dyesubs; too bad the domes were crap. I own several other RDs with PBT dyesubs, some BTCs and a Preh Commander with MX-compatible sliders (even plate-mounted on the Preh) etc. There's nothing magical about Topre. It's just the only relatively common modern keyboard with domes that costs about $200 and most of that price is in actual hardware (incl. R&D or QC), not marketing or gimmicks. The important question is how does Topre age; what do vintage Topre keyboards feel like after some heavy use and abuse? How did they compare to their competition at the time? What will modern Topre keyboards feel like in a few years or decades?
That being said, I think it's a personal preference—"rubber dome over something" is a class of mechanisms just like "spring over membrane" or discrete mechanical switches; some people prefer tactile or even clicky switches, other like linears. When I tried an HHKB, it felt smooth and stuff, but very different from my BTC 51xx or the Preh, that are very strong on the rebound, creating yet another kind of tactility. I think the latter suits my current typing technique better.
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Yes indeed I made assumptions, and I made sure I was clear about making assumptions... because I've never tried rubber domes with sliding mechanisms. LOL. Would you prefer that I make up lies about rubber dome boards with sliding mechanisms instead?
The important question is how does Topre age; what do vintage Topre keyboards feel like after some heavy use and abuse? How did they compare to their competition at the time? What will modern Topre keyboards feel like in a few years or decades?
Don't know since my Topre is only 2 years old.
That being said, I think it's a personal preference—"rubber dome over something" is a class of mechanisms just like "spring over membrane" or discrete mechanical switches; some people prefer tactile or even clicky switches, other like linears.
Yes indeed, it's personal preference.
When I tried an HHKB, it felt smooth and stuff, but very different from my BTC 51xx or the Preh, that are very strong on the rebound, creating yet another kind of tactility. I think the latter suits my current typing technique better.
I see. Well, I've never owned a BTC51xx or the Preh, so I can't comment. I do own a Filco with Cherry MX Browns, though, and I think I, ever so slightly, prefer the Topre. Personal preferences.
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The point is, there's the word "ever" in the thread title.
FWIW there've been several threads about dome aging in Topre keyboards. Like this one: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27474
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The point is, there's the word "ever" in the thread title.
I see. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but again, I've never tried the BTC51xx or the Preh, so I can't comment.
I'm also pretty sure the OP didn't mean "ever" literally. As in... he wasn't asking how the Topre compares to all the rubber dome boards that have ever existed in the history of the human race. He just wants to know what Topres are like in general.
FWIW there've been several threads about dome aging in Topre keyboards. Like this one: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27474
That's great. Now you can get your answers from those sources, because, again, my Topre is only 2 years old.
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...sooo we're back to Topre flamewar/circlejerk threads every other week? Cool, I missed it. >_<
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...sooo we're back to Topre flamewar/circlejerk threads every other week? Cool, I missed it. >_<
Wow. Re-read my first post in this thread. All I did was write up my experiences with the Topre board, and it was you who has been hounding me, asking all these unrelated questions, as if to infer and insist that Topre boards are so terrible. If you think that, that's fine. But don't bother me about it, because I have my own opinions.
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Please don't be mean to each other :(
Topre loves you all.
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I ****ING LOVE TOPRE!!!1!
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"do topre feel like the best switch ever?"
Yes ... yes.
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Topre is the cup rubber. SO you can enjoy your feeling. The feeling of oneness with cup rubber. Sorry my English.
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Topre is the cup rubber. SO you can enjoy your feeling. The feeling of oneness with cup rubber. Sorry my English.
Good feeling of oneness. Mmm.
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SO you can enjoy your feeling.
That's Vortex, isn't it?
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Ah, now the difference is between rubber domes, and rubber cups? 8)
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They do to me! Loving my 30g's. The smoothest and softest keyboard ever. I also really like the sound the keys make when they travel back up.
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This is a known Topre circle-jerk site. Don't let them fool you into thinking there's some drastic difference between rubber domes and Topre when it comes to feel. There's definitely a noticeable difference, just not as pronounced as the difference between rubber dome and, well, any other switch type besides Topre. In short: yes. They feel like nicer rubber dome boards.
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Topre boards also seem to last longer than most rubber dome keyboards.
I have experienced RD keyboards becoming almost unusable after only a few months.
My HHKB was secondhand, and is still as smooth as silk even a year or so after I got it.
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Oh yes, the stock build quality of both Realforce and HHKB are fantastic. Superior to most any modern stock MX board.
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The Leanord Elan I've mentioned in some other thread was made in '88 and it still feels great. WHERE IS YOUR THORPE GOD NOW?
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wtf do you guys do to your rubber domes 'omg I barely type on it and it's worn out already'.
I've typed on domes for years and never had a issue with them wearing out. On the other hand I've had MX Blues/MX Greens/MX Whites lose their click, chattering, mini-usb connectors fail, sticky switches, etc...
I know you guys love your mechanicals but the bs is getting thick.
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Depends on the keyboard.
Some are rubbish right from the start.
Others last the distance - I have a Digital winkeyless keyboard that is still going strong. A bit yellowed, but very consistent feel.
OTOH I have IBM RD keyboards that started off fine, but over a year or so haev become extremely mushy.
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wtf do you guys do to your rubber domes 'omg I barely type on it and it's worn out already'.
I've typed on domes for years and never had a issue with them wearing out. On the other hand I've had MX Blues/MX Greens/MX Whites lose their click, chattering, mini-usb connectors fail, sticky switches, etc...
I know you guys love your mechanicals but the bs is getting thick.
You've never had them fail on you? The do all the time..but when the replacement cost is 20 dollars, you don't think about it at all....And yes, I have old RD keyboards that have lasted a long long time..and some that have not.
The advantage of say, Cherry, is that they're rated to last longer..that doesn't mean every single board will, but in general, the parts are designed to last longer.
As far as Topre is concerned..well, they've recently upped the rating but who knows about that...I would expect them to last as long as the best RDs have done..which is a long time. I wouldn't expect them to be similar to cheaper RDs which tend to not last as long...
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This is a known Topre circle-jerk site. Don't let them fool you into thinking there's some drastic difference between rubber domes and Topre when it comes to feel. There's definitely a noticeable difference, just not as pronounced as the difference between rubber dome and, well, any other switch type besides Topre. In short: yes. They feel like nicer rubber dome boards.
If you're talking about the "mechanicalness" of switches, then yes... Cherry switches are further apart from typical rubber dome switches than Topre switches are.
If you're talking about the quality of the switches, however, then Topre comes out further ahead and apart from typical rubber domes than Cherry switches do. Topre switches are way more smooth and stable (less wobbly) than Cherry MX switches.
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This is a known Topre circle-jerk site. Don't let them fool you into thinking there's some drastic difference between rubber domes and Topre when it comes to feel. There's definitely a noticeable difference, just not as pronounced as the difference between rubber dome and, well, any other switch type besides Topre. In short: yes. They feel like nicer rubber dome boards.
If you're talking about the "mechanicalness" of switches, then yes... Cherry switches are further apart from typical rubber dome switches than Topre switches are.
If you're talking about the quality of the switches, however, then Topre comes out further ahead and apart from typical rubber domes than Cherry switches do. Topre switches are way more smooth and stable (less wobbly) than Cherry MX switches.
You're absolutely right, the only switch I have tried that compares is lubed+stickered(yeah, they make a little difference) reds with o-rings. But that's a lot of parts to add to get a similar smoothness, and they also have a more solid/wobbly housing than MX too.
I just prefer MX because of the stark contrast and variance to a rubber-dome, and the extreme customability. To be totally honest I am hoping and praying someone picks up the Topre patent and starts making caps of all sorts of shapes fonts and color-ways. I wish there were tons of affordable housing options, and weight variances mods for Topre boards. Folks making custom Topre springs, and aluminum cases for less than $200. Novelty caps and Topre set groupbuys as far as the mouse can scroll. I want this so bad man, and it ****ing sucks none of it's happening. I don't hate Topre, I hate it's squandered potential.
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I know you guys love your mechanicals but the bs is getting thick.
love it
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I have some Dell QuietKeys at work that aren't too bad to use. RDs do wear out faster, but mine usually last a year or two before I toss them.
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do topre feel like the best rubber dome ever?
I own many different keyboards and the answer is "absolutely not".
My Topre keyboard is brutal and rough and hurts my hands a lot.
The rubberdome I am typing this msg on is not perfect but it is much softer and gentler than my Topre keyboard.
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wtf do you guys do to your rubber domes 'omg I barely type on it and it's worn out already'.
I've typed on domes for years and never had a issue with them wearing out. On the other hand I've had MX Blues/MX Greens/MX Whites lose their click, chattering, mini-usb connectors fail, sticky switches, etc...
I know you guys love your mechanicals but the bs is getting thick.
I used an cheapy HP keyboard at work (like this one (http://www.awhisperinmyghost.com/wordpress/wp-content/Keyboard-HP.jpg)) and it didn't last even a year before some of my most used keys stopped registering and would require multiple key presses or slamming the key. The scissor switch keyboard on my Dell laptop at home does the same thing, 30% of the time the Windows key wont register unless I smash it.
However, I've got a Dell keyboard at home (this one (http://sprignaturemoves.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/200551205849363.jpg)) that I had used for over 8 years, including thousands of hours of gaming, and never had a bit of trouble with. It has since been retired for my Filco but it served me very well and I still keep it around as a backup board. If I were to renounce the mechanical religion that's probably the keyboard I would go back to.
Point being, build quality on these cheap boards can very drastically. Cherry switches aren't without their issues, but I think most would agree the positives outweigh negatives all day long (eg. show me a cheap rubberdome with PBT keys).
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eg. show me a cheap rubberdome with PBT keys
Most hellgrau Cherry G83s. What else do you have there?
Obviously rubber domes are decent keyboards otherwise 99% of the population wouldn't use them.
BS. Majority of people use (or even eat/drink) whatever crap vendors throw at them.
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I would say a good portion of the population doesn't even know about mechanical keyboards and a decent portion of the ones that do are unwilling to pay the price for good mechanical keyboards. I certainly didn't understand the difference until I started researching ergo boards. Having said that, rubber domes work. Most of them are poorly built, but they work. Some of them are even comfortable.
I still prefer my mechanical board.
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eg. show me a cheap rubberdome with PBT keys
Most hellgrau Cherry G83s. What else do you have there?
Obviously rubber domes are decent keyboards otherwise 99% of the population wouldn't use them.
BS. Majority of people use (or even eat/drink) whatever crap vendors throw at them.
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Ok i overreacted.
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I wrote this review many moons ago ..... back in the day when Ripster and Webby ruled here on GH. Back when keyboards were worth more than keycaps.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9709.msg175778#msg175778 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9709.msg175778#msg175778)
Unfortunately, after buying ANOTHER 87U, I still feel the same way about the Realforce (although I do prefer the beige verson). I just don't like it. Hey, to each their own.
The "thock" still drives me nuts.
So now I'll just use my 87U to display my artisan keycaps when I can't find the MX versions. ;D ;D
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^ Wow, some of the names in that thread. Most don't post any more :(