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Title: Babymetal
Post by: slip84 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:21:04
I have never understood the appeal of metal for the most part, but this... this is tragic: NPR: Deal With It, Headbangers — Babymetal Is Here (http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2014/09/04/345778225/deal-with-it-headbangers-babymetal-is-here)

Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Tym on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:22:19
You ever seen them do Chocolate? Ill go find it, look for the 3 story tall statue of the Virgin Mary, I really don't know why.


Scratch that, just noticed its link in the article you posted.

Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:26:36
I have never understood the appeal of metal for the most part

I don't understand you.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: slip84 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:33:16
I have never understood the appeal of metal for the most part

I don't understand you.
That's fair. You also like ALPS, right? The feeling is mutual.  :D

I've tried metal throughout the years and, like punk music, I can't get into it too much. I'm a bigger fan of slower and more comprehensible melodies and lyrics. I respect the art and talent surrounding a lot of metal, but I just can't listen to it for too long.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:37:58
This **** is terrible.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:38:32
So you started a thread to show that you don't like something and you don't get it? Intriguing. Brb, making a thread about how we don't have the same views on something.

This **** is terrible.

I had a good laugh over it and still do.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:44:31
Japanese comedy confirmed for best comedy.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:46:56
So you started a thread to show that you don't like something and you don't get it? Intriguing. Brb, making a thread about how we don't have the same views on something.

This **** is terrible.

I had a good laugh over it and still do.

I dunno, I don't find it funny either, just irritating. Maybe the Japanese are just too weird for me.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: slip84 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:48:19
So you started a thread to show that you don't like something and you don't get it? Intriguing. Brb, making a thread about how we don't have the same views on something.
Oh, no, no. I think you misunderstand my intent. I certainly have no issue with anyone liking anything and I'm not trashing metal. It just doesn't appeal to me. I'm an avid reader of NPR and I found the story interesting and the music curious. The word "tragic" might not have been the most applicable.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:49:55
(http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/10/what_the_hell_just_happened-7962.gif)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:50:10
Initial thought:  "Who doesn't like chocolate, metal and girls singing metal?"

Then, they started singing.  How can anyone not like something this adorable?  Oh, right, metal is srsbznz.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:50:21
They're not trashing metal at all btw

It's a jape at foreign people

The stereotype is that Americans only listen to JPOP and J-metal.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:54:18
Initial thought:  "Who doesn't like chocolate, metal and girls singing metal?"

Then, they started singing.  How can anyone not like something this adorable?  Oh, right, metal is srsbznz.

I thought it was fun and it's entertaining. Hell, I'd catch a Babymetal show except I know I'm not coordinated enough to be in that mosh pit. :))

Oh, no, no. I think you misunderstand my intent. I certainly have no issue with anyone liking anything and I'm not trashing metal. It just doesn't appeal to me. I'm an avid reader of NPR and I found the story interesting and the music curious. The word "tragic" might not have been the most applicable.

I totally did miss your point, my bad :( :( :(.

I thought the writing was hella biased but a bit honest as well. Maybe I listen to too much "underground" stuff as they say in the article. Sorry bro, no hard feelings?
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: demik on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:57:18
Female jpop artists rapping > *
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: slip84 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:57:50
I totally did miss your point, my bad :( :( :(.

I thought the writing was hella biased but a bit honest as well. Maybe I listen to too much "underground" stuff as they say in the article. Sorry bro, no hard feelings?
Nah, it's the internet. Intent is hard to catch unless it's all spelled out. My best friend here loves metal. I love hip hop. We've agreed to disagree on those and we listen to anything but those two when we drive around together anywhere.

And yeah, it's always hard to read about things you care about because they either overgeneralize to appeal to people who aren't in the know about the topic or they get at something that you don't want to admit to. That's why I don't read reviews of games I want to play or love or bands I love and follow, etc.

Anyway, I'd have a hard time harboring a grudge against someone I might see at an upcoming meet-up.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:59:14
Female jpop artists rapping > *

Just like your sig - No.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: demik on Thu, 04 September 2014, 12:02:43
Female jpop artists rapping > *

Just like your sig - No.
CL > you
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 12:04:02
Female jpop artists rapping > *

Just like your sig - No.
CL > you

Craigslist *is* greater than me.  I agree.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: demik on Thu, 04 September 2014, 12:04:57
CL THE ONE AND ONLY BADDEST FEMALE
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 12:07:31
Nah, it's the internet. Intent is hard to catch unless it's all spelled out. My best friend here loves metal. I love hip hop. We've agreed to disagree on those and we listen to anything but those two when we drive around together anywhere.

Hehe, I love hip hop too and I agree. Stupid internet with it's lack of context and tone :))

And yeah, it's always hard to read about things you care about because they either overgeneralize to appeal to people who aren't in the know about the topic or they get at something that you don't want to admit to. That's why I don't read reviews of games I want to play or love or bands I love and follow, etc.

Which is what I think is most odd about the article. NPR usually does a better job at being a bit more objective from what I've seen.

Anyway, I'd have a hard time harboring a grudge against someone I might see at an upcoming meet-up.

:D See you in Nashville?
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 12:21:35
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Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:34:02
****in japanese man
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:37:06
****in japanese man

Why are you talking about your preferred partner for grown up tickling?
Title: Babymetal
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:55:28
****in japanese man

Why are you talking about your preferred partner for grown up tickling?
:blank:









some are really cute
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:56:37

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Sassy Sifo gif
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:00:57

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Sassy Sifo gif

(http://media.giphy.com/media/36vQCIu2e6s6I/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:02:29


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Sassy Sifo gif

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Mmmm that sass don't stop!
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:03:56
Now it's a sassy sifo thread - (http://i.imgur.com/Jyq1z.jpg)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:05:04
(http://i.imgur.com/2hfFQ.gif)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Novus on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:09:47
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Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:10:39
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The judges have accepted this English Sifo.

(http://medias.gifboom.com/medias/t_acd58ebb7857428f848cd977ac212bc0.jpg)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:12:27
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The judges have accepted this English Sifo.

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(https://seouldoutsk.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tumblr_m5npg3i57x1rnz4x1.gif?w=714)

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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8b7ba6c6bf0d4ce88dd6231de57256e6/tumblr_mj9lted6vD1s7rgruo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:14:10
(http://medias.gifboom.com/medias/t_30c0168acf87456fb6e22941f5c04ab1.jpg)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:14:57
Show Image
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(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2sl9nIDMO1qh4zrs.gif)

(http://friedrice.la/images/posts/1/1801_aql.gif)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:15:18
(http://medias.gifboom.com/medias/t_82badccdbb3b45be8d004053053793ce.jpg)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:16:13
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Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:20:10
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/4c238fd8d054929c06eba74ff02501e9/tumblr_n11uv0Ha9x1sj5wyho1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:21:05
I had a good lol. Sad that it's so brickwalled though. That's probably my least favourite part of modern japanese music

I'm as big a fan of gimicks in metal as the next guy. Sometimes the band has the talent to pull it off.
Whether it's a-capella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeaz4s7q0Ag) metal (sweet, they have a new album coming out!)
or "blackjazz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTtbeK6jPw)" metal with saxophone
or metal with everything (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mZVOd0jWY).

It's all about the variety.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Novus on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:21:37
I had a good lol. Sad that it's so brickwalled though. That's probably my least favourite part of modern japanese music

I'm as big a fan of gimicks in metal as the next guy. Sometimes the band has the talent to pull it off.
Whether it's a-capella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeaz4s7q0Ag) metal (sweet, they have a new album coming out!)
or "blackjazz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTtbeK6jPw)" metal with saxophone
or metal with everything (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mZVOd0jWY).

It's all about the variety.

Why'd you break it :/
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:22:17
Greatest Asian Gif Battle on GH.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/242699dc5994a67a29b2304b82a99c53/tumblr_mqyfm0Tf8w1ry7iyoo8_400.gif)



I <3 You, TJ.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:23:00
I had a good lol. Sad that it's so brickwalled though. That's probably my least favourite part of modern japanese music

I'm as big a fan of gimicks in metal as the next guy. Sometimes the band has the talent to pull it off.
Whether it's a-capella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeaz4s7q0Ag) metal (sweet, they have a new album coming out!)
or "blackjazz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTtbeK6jPw)" metal with saxophone
or metal with everything (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mZVOd0jWY).

It's all about the variety.

Why'd you break it :/

Started my post before you got all on the GIF train.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:23:35
(http://medias.gifboom.com/medias/t_91d4aa633f164589ba4d6936350e38a9.jpg)

<3 you, too.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Novus on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:28:14
I had a good lol. Sad that it's so brickwalled though. That's probably my least favourite part of modern japanese music

I'm as big a fan of gimicks in metal as the next guy. Sometimes the band has the talent to pull it off.
Whether it's a-capella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeaz4s7q0Ag) metal (sweet, they have a new album coming out!)
or "blackjazz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTtbeK6jPw)" metal with saxophone
or metal with everything (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mZVOd0jWY).

It's all about the variety.

Why'd you break it :/

Started my post before you got all on the GIF train.

ah ... you dork
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:21:15
I actually enjoy them, and this is definitely one of their only songs that I really don't like very much. Their lead singer (suzuka nakamoto) is actually really talented, the other two girls are just there for choreography and kawaii factor
Better songs:
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:44:10
Having never heard of it before this thread, I thought that was legitimately good  :-X
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 September 2014, 19:11:27
CL THE ONE AND ONLY BADDEST FEMALE

'm not gonna say i like the derivative music.. but they got cool videos.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 September 2014, 19:25:07
Baby Metal is an entertainment product.

And as with MANY modern entertainment products from JAPAN,  it un-apologetically leverages pedophilia..


That's whats wrong with it....   end of story...


How healthy of a social accord is it when the sexuality of children (those who are dependent on adults with little decision making powers of their own) are being sold...


I realize, the 3 kids in this "band" are probably well insulated from -the harsher- realities,   but that does not change the fact that they've built this thing to serve  a  not-so-healthy perversion of the fans...



True, there could be someone who just, likes their music,   but that is clearly NOT the main user base they're after....



where is this all going...  idk....   i don't even want to think about it...   
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: JPG on Thu, 04 September 2014, 19:29:34
The first song is not bad at all in fact. Here's some of the metal I like:

Nightwish - Wishmaster


Stratovarius - Destiny


Rhapsody (now Rhapsody of Fire) - Emerald Sword


Edit: Someone will need to teach me how to put these url so we see the vid...
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Tym on Thu, 04 September 2014, 20:30:12

Edit: Someone will need to teach me how to put these url so we see the vid...
When you look at a video, click share and copy the shortened version of the link, that'll work for you.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 04 September 2014, 20:37:32
You know, if this group was a little less metal and a little less Japanese kawaii egu bull****, then I might have actually liked them.
But as it stands this is just discomforting.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: JPG on Thu, 04 September 2014, 20:44:33

Edit: Someone will need to teach me how to put these url so we see the vid...

When you look at a video, click share and copy the shortened version of the link, that'll work for you.


Thx, now I got it, I have to paste the vid, select it and then hit the youtube button instead of simply adding the code manually.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: The Mad Professor on Thu, 04 September 2014, 21:48:15
I... don't get the appeal of Babymetal.

It's like the worst parts of J-pop and metal compressed into a **** sandwich and garnished with paedophilia.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 September 2014, 22:44:12
I... don't get the appeal of Babymetal.

It's like the worst parts of J-pop and metal compressed into a **** sandwich and garnished with paedophilia.


That's what japanese men like... so deal with it...
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Novus on Thu, 04 September 2014, 22:53:11
I... don't get the appeal of Babymetal.

It's like the worst parts of J-pop and metal compressed into a **** sandwich and garnished with paedophilia.


That's what japanese men like... so deal with it...

That's hetero-sexism
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: The Mad Professor on Thu, 04 September 2014, 22:54:21
I... don't get the appeal of Babymetal.

It's like the worst parts of J-pop and metal compressed into a **** sandwich and garnished with paedophilia.


That's what japanese men like... so deal with it...

That's hetero-sexism


Uh... what?


- By Jove, I do believe the old chap is making no sense at all...


Yeah, what you said.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 September 2014, 23:01:33
I... don't get the appeal of Babymetal.

It's like the worst parts of J-pop and metal compressed into a **** sandwich and garnished with paedophilia.


That's what japanese men like... so deal with it...

That's hetero-sexism


idk what that means.. whatever helps you deal with it i suppose..
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Novus on Thu, 04 September 2014, 23:04:01
do i really have to spell everything out :/

It means you're implying Japanese lesbians don't like this too.

Common guys, it's 2014. Equal opportunity cheap shots.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 September 2014, 23:07:56
You know, I doubt people would be all up in arms about it if it wasn't for the choreography and how they dance to it.  There is nothing less metal than choreography...though I guess pop does contend since it's mainstream and sellouts while metal is supposed to be for the purist even though it's just as guilty as any other genre.

Yeah, there are poppy parts, but in many ways it's not a huge departure from some of the stuff that's happened in metal in the last 20 years or so.  Elements of it reminded me of Dragonforce


and I don't remember them being lambasted for being too poppy even though they were damn poppy.  Some of the vocals even remind me of symphonic metal.  And you know what, it's different, it's unorthodox, but, for some odd reason, it works and I find myself liking it even though I know I shouldn't.

I had a good lol. Sad that it's so brickwalled though. That's probably my least favourite part of modern japanese music

I'm as big a fan of gimicks in metal as the next guy. Sometimes the band has the talent to pull it off.
Whether it's a-capella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeaz4s7q0Ag) metal (sweet, they have a new album coming out!)
or "blackjazz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTtbeK6jPw)" metal with saxophone
or metal with everything (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mZVOd0jWY).

It's all about the variety.

I think you nailed it.  Too much metal I've seen of late is cut from the same mold.  It's refreshing to see something so different that seems to have blended the genres well even if you don't like it.
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 September 2014, 00:04:56
do i really have to spell everything out :/

It means you're implying Japanese lesbians don't like this too.

Common guys, it's 2014. Equal opportunity cheap shots.

hmmm..... I suppose you're right..

/retract


That's what Japanese PEOPLE like,  deal with it.. !!
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: jameslr on Sat, 06 September 2014, 19:03:35
They're not trashing metal at all btw

It's a jape at foreign people

The stereotype is that Americans only listen to JPOP and J-metal.
Wow I think that is the first time I've seen someone use the word jape outside of ASOIAF. Color me impressed
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 September 2014, 23:32:40
They're not trashing metal at all btw

It's a jape at foreign people

The stereotype is that Americans only listen to JPOP and J-metal.
Wow I think that is the first time I've seen someone use the word jape outside of ASOIAF. Color me impressed

I'm feel soooo uncultured...   I heard Jape.. immediately thought of grape, then japan, then tentacle-grape, then r4p3, then Japan + r4p3 = Jape..

well.. now I know better..  thx 
Title: Re: Babymetal
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 07 September 2014, 07:24:58
Hehe. While the girls are doing cat gestures and making cat-like gestures, the robed, masked guys in the back are mock-playing Shamisen - an instrument traditionally manufactured from cat skin ...