But such joyful insanity!
Still not even remotely cheap enough yet to replace regular HDDs
Still not even remotely cheap enough yet to replace regular HDDs
At the cost of the sanity of the Ssd users.
went to this dude's house.. needed to use his computer, turned it on, sat there stared at it.. I thought it was broken... 3 minutes later, it was booted.. then it took another minute to load firefox..Show Image(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)
Still not even remotely cheap enough yet to replace regular HDDs
250Gb for ~$100 to be used as a boot drive should be more than enough for most people.
Still not even remotely cheap enough yet to replace regular HDDs
250Gb for ~$100 to be used as a boot drive should be more than enough for most people.
Honestly, you shouldn't need more than 80-100Gb for a Windows boot drive.
SSDs are great, no argument there. But until they make an affordable 1Tb SSD their use is still restricted. Soon though...
I have had my 128gb adata ssd for 2 years so far and no problems at all. Super fast and reliable so far, but until the price of them comes down more I am going to stick to only using them as boot drives as I use about 1.5tb of storage on games and everything.
I have had my 128gb adata ssd for 2 years so far and no problems at all. Super fast and reliable so far, but until the price of them comes down more I am going to stick to only using them as boot drives as I use about 1.5tb of storage on games and everything.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Put the games and all programs on the SSD.. also use SSD for scratch drives for things like adobe apps...
it'll be the best $200 you've ever spent...
stateside, 512gb ssds are routinely ~200, ~250 for the slightly faster ones.
All my programs ARE on the SSD. But the games are on the HDD. There is no good reason for me to put my games on the SSD since I am not playing any games that have long load times. (I mostly play games like TF2, Payday 2, and L4D2)I have had my 128gb adata ssd for 2 years so far and no problems at all. Super fast and reliable so far, but until the price of them comes down more I am going to stick to only using them as boot drives as I use about 1.5tb of storage on games and everything.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Put the games and all programs on the SSD.. also use SSD for scratch drives for things like adobe apps...
it'll be the best $200 you've ever spent...
stateside, 512gb ssds are routinely ~200, ~250 for the slightly faster ones.
Still rocking my Samsung 830 I think.
I have had my 128gb adata ssd for 2 years so far and no problems at all. Super fast and reliable so far, but until the price of them comes down more I am going to stick to only using them as boot drives as I use about 1.5tb of storage on games and everything.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Put the games and all programs on the SSD.. also use SSD for scratch drives for things like adobe apps...
it'll be the best $200 you've ever spent...
stateside, 512gb ssds are routinely ~200, ~250 for the slightly faster ones.
I would love to do that, but I had to go with a strange drivepool + primocache setup due to having ~6tb of games and slow internet.
Still rocking my Samsung 830 I think.
Arguably the BEST ssd ever made :thumb: .
My 3 year old laptop boots faster with it's hard drive then my 3 month old computer with an ssd :(
Does unplugging and plugging in an external SSD repeatedly have any long-term effects like it does with an external HDD?
If people are having major problems with loading times on HDDs it's due to fragmentation and partitioning (or even background app bloat). I kept a older laptop running smoothly and snappy by proper partitioning, defragging and general good sense.
Built a new system earlier this year with an SSD for the system and program drive, and while faster to boot and launch apps the initial improvement experience wasn't the miracle so many SSD fans would have me believe. It's as fast as one would expect a modern drive to be, but considering it costs less to manufacture than HDDs the prices for large-capacity SSDs are still expensive.
My 3 year old laptop boots faster with it's hard drive then my 3 month old computer with an ssd :(
well it's hard to do an apples to apples comparison in a situation like this.. since your new computer probably has bloatware..
which ssd is this ? did you diy the computer, or is it big box.
Ur lying. I was the first among my friends with raid 0 raptors and I know all about keeping separate partitions for easy defrag. Nothing you can do on hard drives or to them that would be the equivalent of an ssd.
My 3 year old laptop boots faster with it's hard drive then my 3 month old computer with an ssd :(
well it's hard to do an apples to apples comparison in a situation like this.. since your new computer probably has bloatware..
which ssd is this ? did you diy the computer, or is it big box.
No bloatware, samsung 840 evo 120gb fully updated, I built it myself. I think it has something to do with the bios, because going from boot to bios takes the longest.
My 3 year old laptop boots faster with it's hard drive then my 3 month old computer with an ssd :(
well it's hard to do an apples to apples comparison in a situation like this.. since your new computer probably has bloatware..
which ssd is this ? did you diy the computer, or is it big box.
No bloatware, samsung 840 evo 120gb fully updated, I built it myself. I think it has something to do with the bios, because going from boot to bios takes the longest.
The 840 evo has a fault with the firmware causing this. There is a firmware fix only released last week to update the firmware and refresh the drive for speed.
I had this issue myself and it is a known issue with the 840 evo which had a lot of new put out about it.
My 3 year old laptop boots faster with it's hard drive then my 3 month old computer with an ssd :(
well it's hard to do an apples to apples comparison in a situation like this.. since your new computer probably has bloatware..
which ssd is this ? did you diy the computer, or is it big box.
No bloatware, samsung 840 evo 120gb fully updated, I built it myself. I think it has something to do with the bios, because going from boot to bios takes the longest.
The 840 evo has a fault with the firmware causing this. There is a firmware fix only released last week to update the firmware and refresh the drive for speed.
I had this issue myself and it is a known issue with the 840 evo which had a lot of new put out about it.
My 3 year old laptop boots faster with it's hard drive then my 3 month old computer with an ssd :(
well it's hard to do an apples to apples comparison in a situation like this.. since your new computer probably has bloatware..
which ssd is this ? did you diy the computer, or is it big box.
No bloatware, samsung 840 evo 120gb fully updated, I built it myself. I think it has something to do with the bios, because going from boot to bios takes the longest.
The 840 evo has a fault with the firmware causing this. There is a firmware fix only released last week to update the firmware and refresh the drive for speed.
I had this issue myself and it is a known issue with the 840 evo which had a lot of new put out about it.
That is why I said fully updated! ;) Did that firmware fix but still no fix.
Ur lying. I was the first among my friends with raid 0 raptors and I know all about keeping separate partitions for easy defrag. Nothing you can do on hard drives or to them that would be the equivalent of an ssd.
I never stated that a HDD is as fast as SDD, tp, you completely misread my post. I was writing that for some users with HDDs their systems are in a non-optimal state, which greater adds to the slowness, and can be improved by proper maintenance. I then mentioned that my initial experience with SSDs wasn't the immediate 'holy mother of god' moment that is often spoken of, but rather a solid speed improvement one would expect for a modern drive in 2014. If all my drives were SSD that would be great, however the larger capacity drives are still too expensive to use everywhere, as I wrote earlier.
I have an EVGA Hadron Air case, so I would love one big ssd so I could remove the HDD cage and put the ssd somewhere out of the way.. One day perhaps..
SSD changed my life , before i went bathroom during boot , not I go bathroom then boot .
I got a Samsung 840 pro with 128Go i believe , just enough for windows , and a few apps . HDD and NAS for storage .
Coreda.. you've used an ssd so long, you've forgotten how life was really ****ty without it... You should try going back to using a harddrive for a few hours, maybe a whole day.. then come back to the SSD.. LIFE CHANGING....Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cheer3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)
Recently on the servers I got, I have 150GB of ram on each machine
So I finally tried ramdisk... It's mind blowing.....
I have an EVGA Hadron Air case, so I would love one big ssd so I could remove the HDD cage and put the ssd somewhere out of the way.. One day perhaps..
Bought it when it was still kind of expensive , I think it was like 250€ for 250Gb . I only put things i use daily on SSD , larger apps/games all go on HDD . It might load a bit slower but online I'm still the one waiting for other machines to load .
I'm not sure if I will ever have one.
Hopefully some day soon every computer will have the os loaded onto a small SSD, when that day happens life will be good :)
Yeah I know buddie I just mean it as in you go and get it, its not a extra its standard :pHopefully some day soon every computer will have the os loaded onto a small SSD, when that day happens life will be good :)
Well, you can already run Windows and Linux from a dedicated USB flash drive (not sure if Mac allows it), freeing up another drive for RAID purposes.
Yeah I know buddie I just mean it as in you go and get it, its not a extra its standard :pHopefully some day soon every computer will have the os loaded onto a small SSD, when that day happens life will be good :)
Well, you can already run Windows and Linux from a dedicated USB flash drive (not sure if Mac allows it), freeing up another drive for RAID purposes.
Yeah I know buddie I just mean it as in you go and get it, its not a extra its standard :pHopefully some day soon every computer will have the os loaded onto a small SSD, when that day happens life will be good :)
Well, you can already run Windows and Linux from a dedicated USB flash drive (not sure if Mac allows it), freeing up another drive for RAID purposes.
The problem with this is that it eliminates the capability to install on partitions, which is what a lot of people do.
Hell, if you want choice taken away from your computing experience, just buy a Mac.
SSD Awareness month !!
« on: 28-10-2014, 09:53:50 »
Does SSD awareness month start on 28-Oct and go until 27-Nov, or it is just for the last couple of days of October?
SSD Awareness month !!
« on: 28-10-2014, 09:53:50 »
Does SSD awareness month start on 28-Oct and go until 27-Nov, or it is just for the last couple of days of October?
until black friday.. .sheesh 31 days.
SSD Awareness month !!
« on: 28-10-2014, 09:53:50 »
Does SSD awareness month start on 28-Oct and go until 27-Nov, or it is just for the last couple of days of October?
until black friday.. .sheesh 31 days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939))Black Friday is a terrible name for a sale IMO :3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939))Black Friday is a terrible name for a sale IMO :3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939))Black Friday is a terrible name for a sale IMO :3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939))Black Friday is a terrible name for a sale IMO :3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939))Black Friday is a terrible name for a sale IMO :3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday
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Notice how the date is 1939...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_39
"The curse of 39 refers to the belief in some parts of Afghanistan that the number 39 is cursed or a badge of shame as it is purportedly linked with prostitution"
yeah SSD is like slow contrasted with RAMDISK. I think my ideal computer would have 32gb RAM for ramdisk and just uses SD cards for storage. I built up a customized linux for me to be used run toram. It only had the stuff I needed. Takes a bit longer to load to RAM, but is way better and faster than pretty much anything else.Ur lying. I was the first among my friends with raid 0 raptors and I know all about keeping separate partitions for easy defrag. Nothing you can do on hard drives or to them that would be the equivalent of an ssd.
I never stated that a HDD is as fast as SDD, tp, you completely misread my post. I was writing that for some users with HDDs their systems are in a non-optimal state, which greater adds to the slowness, and can be improved by proper maintenance. I then mentioned that my initial experience with SSDs wasn't the immediate 'holy mother of god' moment that is often spoken of, but rather a solid speed improvement one would expect for a modern drive in 2014. If all my drives were SSD that would be great, however the larger capacity drives are still too expensive to use everywhere, as I wrote earlier.
Coreda.. you've used an ssd so long, you've forgotten how life was really ****ty without it... You should try going back to using a harddrive for a few hours, maybe a whole day.. then come back to the SSD.. LIFE CHANGING....Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cheer3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)
Recently on the servers I got, I have 150GB of ram on each machine
So I finally tried ramdisk... It's mind blowing.....
I have an EVGA Hadron Air case, so I would love one big ssd so I could remove the HDD cage and put the ssd somewhere out of the way.. One day perhaps..
yea but then where would you put all your movies?
yeah SSD is like slow contrasted with RAMDISK. I think my ideal computer would have 32gb RAM for ramdisk and just uses SD cards for storage. I built up a customized linux for me to be used run toram. It only had the stuff I needed. Takes a bit longer to load to RAM, but is way better and faster than pretty much anything else.Ur lying. I was the first among my friends with raid 0 raptors and I know all about keeping separate partitions for easy defrag. Nothing you can do on hard drives or to them that would be the equivalent of an ssd.
I never stated that a HDD is as fast as SDD, tp, you completely misread my post. I was writing that for some users with HDDs their systems are in a non-optimal state, which greater adds to the slowness, and can be improved by proper maintenance. I then mentioned that my initial experience with SSDs wasn't the immediate 'holy mother of god' moment that is often spoken of, but rather a solid speed improvement one would expect for a modern drive in 2014. If all my drives were SSD that would be great, however the larger capacity drives are still too expensive to use everywhere, as I wrote earlier.
Coreda.. you've used an ssd so long, you've forgotten how life was really ****ty without it... You should try going back to using a harddrive for a few hours, maybe a whole day.. then come back to the SSD.. LIFE CHANGING....Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cheer3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)
Recently on the servers I got, I have 150GB of ram on each machine
So I finally tried ramdisk... It's mind blowing.....
After that, going back to SSD was pretty hard. So slow, it takes whole milliseconds for apps to open?I have an EVGA Hadron Air case, so I would love one big ssd so I could remove the HDD cage and put the ssd somewhere out of the way.. One day perhaps..
yea but then where would you put all your movies?
That's what they invented NAS or SAN for.
I'm trying to hunt down a good deal on 8gb sticks of ddr2 ecc so I can get 256gb.. hehe...
I'm trying to hunt down a good deal on 8gb sticks of ddr2 ecc so I can get 256gb.. hehe...
That's why I sort-of regret selling the mac pro. I could have put 128GB of RAM in there. I also had a real GPU and windows/linux so I could use it. (because OSX is unusable in general, not just with better GPUs).
What still puts me off SSD is that if it dies, it just bricks without warning.
You might be lucky and have SSD that lasts for years, but if it does die, it does so without warning.
Or is that no longer the case?
What still puts me off SSD is that if it dies, it just bricks without warning.If you aren't doing backups you deserve to have data loss.
You might be lucky and have SSD that lasts for years, but if it does die, it does so without warning.
Or is that no longer the case?
I disagree I have had two SSD die without any warning both with controller lock-ups basically just shut my PC down one night the next die bam dead nothing, happens quite often too it seemsWhat still puts me off SSD is that if it dies, it just bricks without warning.
You might be lucky and have SSD that lasts for years, but if it does die, it does so without warning.
Or is that no longer the case?
Um.. there ARE warnings.. lol basically, ssds don't really DIE, the problem is data retention becomes problematic.. the cells just can't hold the data anymore
so... that comes down to how much is written to the drive.. and because data is random as is write amplification, we can only statically INFER when it will fail.
But as long as you stay within the manufactured spec sheet, it's pretty solid..
I disagree I have had two SSD die without any warning both with controller lock-ups basically just shut my PC down one night the next die bam dead nothing, happens quite often too it seemsWhat still puts me off SSD is that if it dies, it just bricks without warning.
You might be lucky and have SSD that lasts for years, but if it does die, it does so without warning.
Or is that no longer the case?
Um.. there ARE warnings.. lol basically, ssds don't really DIE, the problem is data retention becomes problematic.. the cells just can't hold the data anymore
so... that comes down to how much is written to the drive.. and because data is random as is write amplification, we can only statically INFER when it will fail.
But as long as you stay within the manufactured spec sheet, it's pretty solid..
If you aren't doing backups you deserve to have data loss.
I have a SSD as my boot drive, and have 2 old HDDs (one for games, one for media). Then I have two 1.5 TB drives as backup (one offsite) and a 1TB external drive as a backup/general use. So far, one of the 1.5TB drives has failed and was swiftly replaced by seagate under warranty. No data was lost.
I disagree I have had two SSD die without any warning both with controller lock-ups basically just shut my PC down one night the next die bam dead nothing, happens quite often too it seemsWhat still puts me off SSD is that if it dies, it just bricks without warning.
You might be lucky and have SSD that lasts for years, but if it does die, it does so without warning.
Or is that no longer the case?
Um.. there ARE warnings.. lol basically, ssds don't really DIE, the problem is data retention becomes problematic.. the cells just can't hold the data anymore
so... that comes down to how much is written to the drive.. and because data is random as is write amplification, we can only statically INFER when it will fail.
But as long as you stay within the manufactured spec sheet, it's pretty solid..
Again I disagree HD more than often tell you when something going wrong, and most of the time you can recover everything, SSD's your just boned :/Controller death is no worse on ssd than hdd... you hear about as many sudden hdd deaths as you do ssd..I disagree I have had two SSD die without any warning both with controller lock-ups basically just shut my PC down one night the next die bam dead nothing, happens quite often too it seemsWhat still puts me off SSD is that if it dies, it just bricks without warning.
You might be lucky and have SSD that lasts for years, but if it does die, it does so without warning.
Or is that no longer the case?
Um.. there ARE warnings.. lol basically, ssds don't really DIE, the problem is data retention becomes problematic.. the cells just can't hold the data anymore
so... that comes down to how much is written to the drive.. and because data is random as is write amplification, we can only statically INFER when it will fail.
But as long as you stay within the manufactured spec sheet, it's pretty solid..
Controller death is no worse on ssd than hdd... you hear about as many sudden hdd deaths as you do ssd..
A lot of it is based on the brand and price.
Until Crucial introduced the MX100's and priced them at half of the market value, the old saying of "You get what you pay for" was relevant. If you went cheap, you got crap. If you spent the money, you got good products. It was that simple.
Even today, the price is important. The best quality SSDs come from Samsung and Intel (though Intel's price point is a bit steep). Nipping at their heels is Crucial, whose MX100 series offers the best bang for the buck and who basically called out the industry by maintaining excellent products at reasonable prices.
When SSDs first came out, they were pretty much a novelty item. Sure it was super fast compared to an HDD, but the SSD's lifespan was far less than that of an HDD and data storage was more reliable on the magnetic drive.
Then they started refining the technology.
An SSD today is not the same as before. The life expectency is MUCH better, with some expected to outlast an HDD.
Put it this way, someone said that if you were to write 4TB to an SSD every day, it would take about ten to fifteen years to become unuseable (all things being equal, of course).
When buying an SSD, there are a few tips to follow:
Brand: Intel, Samsung, and Crucial are the best options.
Size: The bigger the drive, the longer it will last. a 128GB is fine if you're running Linux and have a few programs installed. If you have Windows and a lot of programs, you want a bigger drive.
RAID: RAID 0 is about the only useful thing you can do, and you won't see any real improvements until you get to the 256-512GB disk sizes.
Maintenance: Do not ever, EVER defragment your SSD. Defragmentation moves data from one place to another to organize it in nice, neat little groupings. Flash memory (what an SSD uses) is by nature fragmented. Defragging an SSD does absolutely nothing except waste write cycles.
I got a Samsung 840 EVO for my mom's home-office PC a few weeks ago. I'm waiting for the firmware/performance fix to be a month old before I apply it. In case the fix would have incurred any problems of its own, it should be known by then.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
A lot of it is based on the brand and price.
Until Crucial introduced the MX100's and priced them at half of the market value, the old saying of "You get what you pay for" was relevant. If you went cheap, you got crap. If you spent the money, you got good products. It was that simple.
Even today, the price is important. The best quality SSDs come from Samsung and Intel (though Intel's price point is a bit steep). Nipping at their heels is Crucial, whose MX100 series offers the best bang for the buck and who basically called out the industry by maintaining excellent products at reasonable prices.
When SSDs first came out, they were pretty much a novelty item. Sure it was super fast compared to an HDD, but the SSD's lifespan was far less than that of an HDD and data storage was more reliable on the magnetic drive.
Then they started refining the technology.
An SSD today is not the same as before. The life expectency is MUCH better, with some expected to outlast an HDD.
Put it this way, someone said that if you were to write 4TB to an SSD every day, it would take about ten to fifteen years to become unuseable (all things being equal, of course).
When buying an SSD, there are a few tips to follow:
Brand: Intel, Samsung, and Crucial are the best options.
Size: The bigger the drive, the longer it will last. a 128GB is fine if you're running Linux and have a few programs installed. If you have Windows and a lot of programs, you want a bigger drive.
RAID: RAID 0 is about the only useful thing you can do, and you won't see any real improvements until you get to the 256-512GB disk sizes.
Maintenance: Do not ever, EVER defragment your SSD. Defragmentation moves data from one place to another to organize it in nice, neat little groupings. Flash memory (what an SSD uses) is by nature fragmented. Defragging an SSD does absolutely nothing except waste write cycles.
A lot of it is based on the brand and price.
Until Crucial introduced the MX100's and priced them at half of the market value, the old saying of "You get what you pay for" was relevant. If you went cheap, you got crap. If you spent the money, you got good products. It was that simple.
Even today, the price is important. The best quality SSDs come from Samsung and Intel (though Intel's price point is a bit steep). Nipping at their heels is Crucial, whose MX100 series offers the best bang for the buck and who basically called out the industry by maintaining excellent products at reasonable prices.
When SSDs first came out, they were pretty much a novelty item. Sure it was super fast compared to an HDD, but the SSD's lifespan was far less than that of an HDD and data storage was more reliable on the magnetic drive.
Then they started refining the technology.
An SSD today is not the same as before. The life expectency is MUCH better, with some expected to outlast an HDD.
Put it this way, someone said that if you were to write 4TB to an SSD every day, it would take about ten to fifteen years to become unuseable (all things being equal, of course).
When buying an SSD, there are a few tips to follow:
Brand: Intel, Samsung, and Crucial are the best options.
Size: The bigger the drive, the longer it will last. a 128GB is fine if you're running Linux and have a few programs installed. If you have Windows and a lot of programs, you want a bigger drive.
RAID: RAID 0 is about the only useful thing you can do, and you won't see any real improvements until you get to the 256-512GB disk sizes.
Maintenance: Do not ever, EVER defragment your SSD. Defragmentation moves data from one place to another to organize it in nice, neat little groupings. Flash memory (what an SSD uses) is by nature fragmented. Defragging an SSD does absolutely nothing except waste write cycles.
On top of all this, is TRIM support still considered essential?
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
To do this for Windows 7, follow this guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds/0_50
For Windows 8, use this one:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1240779/seans-windows-8-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds/0_50
TRIM should be automatically enabled in Windows, and these guides tell you how to check for sure.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
black friday.. be on the lookout for
sandisk , extreme pro, extreme II
Samsung, 840pro, 850pro, evo
Intel, anything from them is solid..
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
black friday.. be on the lookout for
sandisk , extreme pro, extreme II
Samsung, 840pro, 850pro, evo
Intel, anything from them is solid..
Been eyballing the Samsung stuff. I had planned on adding the 840pro to my rebuild I just did in Feb. I will wait till the sales.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into these some more as well. See if I like anything else.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
black friday.. be on the lookout for
sandisk , extreme pro, extreme II
Samsung, 840pro, 850pro, evo
Intel, anything from them is solid..
Been eyballing the Samsung stuff. I had planned on adding the 840pro to my rebuild I just did in Feb. I will wait till the sales.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into these some more as well. See if I like anything else.
the sandisk extreme pro and extreme II is where a really good deal might come in at..
since all the other drives on that list are really popular... their sale likelihood is lower..
Also look into TLC vs MLC , and determine for yourself if your data load will be sufficient for TLC..
extremepro extreme ii are tlc, and so is the evo..
intel and samsung pro series are all mlc
Best is SLC.. but that's reserved for rich people
A lot of it is based on the brand and price.I've been a fan of Micron for a while. I think their latest stuff is really nice too.
Until Crucial introduced the MX100's and priced them at half of the market value, the old saying of "You get what you pay for" was relevant. If you went cheap, you got crap. If you spent the money, you got good products. It was that simple.
Maintenance: Do not ever, EVER defragment your SSD. Defragmentation moves data from one place to another to organize it in nice, neat little groupings. Flash memory (what an SSD uses) is by nature fragmented. Defragging an SSD does absolutely nothing except waste write cycles.I mean defragmenting is isn't really going to do anything, but it's not going to kill it either. So it's not that bad. Also, while all modern SSDs do have wear levelling, not all SSDs do, in which case, I recommend JFS anyway.
I'm still using my OCZ Agility 2 - 60GB SATA II bought in 2010. I really need to upgrade. It just hasn't given me any problems and has ran great so I've never made any serious efforts to replace/upgrade.
60g is like.. 1 game and windows + page files.. and that's it.
Just windows. I don't have a paging file on C. Everything is on my HDDs. Environment variables are shifted to HDD. Steam games directory, everything. Yeah. Need new stuff. I upgraded my entire system, except case and SSD. Stupid.
To do this for Windows 7, follow this guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds/0_50
For Windows 8, use this one:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1240779/seans-windows-8-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds/0_50
TRIM should be automatically enabled in Windows, and these guides tell you how to check for sure.
Why not just get IDE DOMS? They come in 40 and 44 pin and have WAY better write endurance and some of the 'industrial' rated variants have good internal garbage collection which is great for running older trim unaware OS on. They are also usually cheaper than CF cards these days. You can sometimes find them with ZIF interface for older iPods as well so you don't have to **** about with messy converters.
Why not just get IDE DOMS? They come in 40 and 44 pin and have WAY better write endurance and some of the 'industrial' rated variants have good internal garbage collection which is great for running older trim unaware OS on. They are also usually cheaper than CF cards these days. You can sometimes find them with ZIF interface for older iPods as well so you don't have to **** about with messy converters.
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server :))
But such joyful insanity!
At the cost of the sanity of the Ssd users.
went to this dude's house.. needed to use his computer, turned it on, sat there stared at it.. I thought it was broken... 3 minutes later, it was booted.. then it took another minute to load firefox..Show Image(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server :))
Life before SSD was of oppression and violence... When man waited those seconds for an application to load.. their souls cracked and evanesced into darkness, even the memories of sky wilted and Died..
SSD is the phoenix tear to our crippled will, our resurrection, the icy-sword to vindicate against the malevolence perpetrated by Load-Times..
Strike back brothers.. now in human hand is the temporal essence of a righteous God..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/whaaat3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862525)
Random Question:get a sata to USB3 enclosure for it and have a really fast flashdrive.
Just bought a 120GB SSD for the boot drive on this ghetto rig I'm working on.
Got sent 2, so I have a spare 120GB SSD that i need something to do with, I already have a 250GB boot drive in my main rig alongside a storage HDD any thoughts one what I can do with it?
Random Question:
Just bought a 120GB SSD for the boot drive on this ghetto rig I'm working on.
Got sent 2, so I have a spare 120GB SSD that i need something to do with, I already have a 250GB boot drive in my main rig alongside a storage HDD any thoughts one what I can do with it?
Time to move onto M.2 PCI-E x4 lanes people, be aware of your options!
Time to move onto M.2 PCI-E x4 lanes people, be aware of your options!
Nice option, but the fact that it uses PCI-E lanes means that it takes up GPU capability. More than one M.2 will kill your GPU options. Until they come out with dedicated lanes for M.2, it's a no go for many gamers, folders, and benchers. Incidentally, those people are the ones to whom M.2 speed is attractive and who will be willing to spend the money on it. Your average consumer won't.
Just installed Manjaro Linux on my desktop PC with an SSD. It's smooth beyond belief. Also, RAM usage is down from around 30% while idling (Win 7) to 12% (Manjaro). I haven't used a Linux distro in years, but I don't see myself going back to Windows anytime soon.
SSD + Linux = Awesome
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.I think I prefer Dassault systems' products to autodesk's but Maya is like way easier to use than blender.
b'sides you can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server :))
Life before SSD was of oppression and violence... When man waited those seconds for an application to load.. their souls cracked and evanesced into darkness, even the memories of sky wilted and Died..
SSD is the phoenix tear to our crippled will, our resurrection, the icy-sword to vindicate against the malevolence perpetrated by Load-Times..
Strike back brothers.. now in human hand is the temporal essence of a righteous God..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/whaaat3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862525)
Also.. Trick for the n00bs... Install Intel AHCI RST drivers.. it gives you anywhere between 10-20% performance boost on your ssdAlso the Intel SSD toolbox can be quite useful. Planned TRIM!
Also.. Trick for the n00bs... Install Intel AHCI RST drivers.. it gives you anywhere between 10-20% performance boost on your ssd
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...
No it doesn't. Dual booting is when you have 2 OSs on one HD. This way you have 2 OSs on 2 storage media. Completely different and very easy.
Believe me, I know how difficult and stupid dual booting can be, I struggled with it back when I first started using linux where things were not as easy. I know all about it.
Why not just get IDE DOMS? They come in 40 and 44 pin and have WAY better write endurance and some of the 'industrial' rated variants have good internal garbage collection which is great for running older trim unaware OS on. They are also usually cheaper than CF cards these days. You can sometimes find them with ZIF interface for older iPods as well so you don't have to **** about with messy converters.
wait, why would u need dom for a desktop