I never use the right shift :-X+1
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
count?
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
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So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
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So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
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So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
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So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
hey, it's in the keyboards sub... which means posts count :))
count?
this is why i need to get off post reporting time out.
this is why i need to get off post reporting time out.
this is why i need to get off post reporting time out.
what is that anyways? i've been wondering but never thought to ask anyone...
this is why i need to get off post reporting time out.
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TIL I only use right shift for typing, and left shift only for WoW.
TIL I only use right shift for typing, and left shift only for WoW.
Same. Lshift is for gaming - Rshift is for typing
i get warned/banned for minimal **** compared to your spamming, so i want the mods to do their job right.
So the1onewolf threads are basically tp4 threads that actually talk about keyboards?
But basically tp4 threads... not that there's anything wrong with that.
Do you type or do you game? I tend to use both shift keys when I am typing. I do find that having the right shift key in the right place is okay, it's just the other keys that shouldn't be there that are. I never liked the small left shift key at all.
Any time there is a key in a place it shouldn't be will be a mess. Non-standard layouts are always going to do that to you until you get used to them. Sp yes I do use the right shift and if it were in a different row or out of place, I would be stumbling on it too.
i get warned/banned for minimal **** compared to your spamming, so i want the mods to do their job right.
Considering your last ban/mute of any sort was your big one, I don't feel like that's the case.
On topic, not at all. I think I've used the right shift on both my race 2 and hhkb once.
i get warned/banned for minimal **** compared to your spamming, so i want the mods to do their job right.
Considering your last ban/mute of any sort was your big one, I don't feel like that's the case.
On topic, not at all. I think I've used the right shift on both my race 2 and hhkb once.
Well you just saw noistyturtle purposely spam.
Did you give him a warning?
You guys do have a big issue with enforcing your mutes and bans unilaterally though. You rely too much on reports because our posts can quite annoying at times but you don't enforce the rules when you see them being broken in front of you.
You're also the one that used your mod abilities to get on a clack list, so you really don't have much integrity.
I touch type, so that's part of my difficulty because I'll just fumble the shift key and hit the arrow.
The "right" way to type or at least the way you're taught is to use both shift keys. You use the opposite hand to hit the shift key for whatever letter your other hand is hitting to capitalize it.
i get warned/banned for minimal **** compared to your spamming, so i want the mods to do their job right.
Considering your last ban/mute of any sort was your big one, I don't feel like that's the case.
On topic, not at all. I think I've used the right shift on both my race 2 and hhkb once.
Well you just saw noistyturtle purposely spam.
Did you give him a warning?
Does having one of those smaller right side shift buttons mess you up when typing?
I'm talking about the layouts where they reduce the size of the shift to accommodate the arrow keys - usually the layout you get on the 84 style compact keyboards.
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I just can't get used to it :(
Does having one of those smaller right side shift buttons mess you up when typing?
I'm talking about the layouts where they reduce the size of the shift to accommodate the arrow keys - usually the layout you get on the 84 style compact keyboards.
I just can't get used to it :(
I guess it would **** me up, as I do use the right shift key... :DI doubt it. Where on the right shift key do you press? The OP of this thread is the first person who I’ve ever heard complain about this, and I know a bunch of people who use both shifts evenly or mostly use right shift, and have keyboards with 1.75u right shifts. Personally I never press even halfway over on the right shift. Even 1u size would probably be somewhat okay, but 1.75 is more than wide enough. The bigger problem with right shift is that it’s too far away.
I guess it would **** me up, as I do use the right shift key... :DI doubt it. Where on the right shift key do you press? The OP of this thread is the first person who I�ve ever heard complain about this, and I know a bunch of people who use both shifts evenly or mostly use right shift, and have keyboards with 1.75u right shifts. Personally I never press even halfway over on the right shift. Even 1u size would probably be somewhat okay, but 1.75 is more than wide enough. The bigger problem with right shift is that it�s too far away.
I think the best would be to have both shift keys be ~1.5�2 units wide, and the right shift moved closer in by a key (basically put right shift where / is on a standard ANSI board).
On ANSI, the right shift is too far away and much too big. The left shift is in a good spot and a bit too big.
On ISO, both shifts are too far away, and the right shift is much too big, while the left shift is slightly smaller than I�d prefer. ISO is designed to be close to unusable for people with small hands.
A better solution entirely is to put shift on a thumb key, or nearer to the home pinky position, along the lines of:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/agK3Fmr.png)
As Leonardo said: Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Drop some keys and let your simplified layout shine.Well, the goal of that mockup was to preserve basically 1:1 the existing keys on a TKL board, just moved into better spots. For myself, I’d actually drop a bunch of keys and make something in a symmetrical, column-staggered layout.
I use the right shift PRIMARILY actually! Even a capital A I would do with the right shift.If typing “properly” (which is to say, according to technique commonly taught in books/schools), everyone is supposed to use the right shift for capital A. The keys on the right hand (YUIOPHJKLNM) are the ones that should take left-pinky shift.
What are you kids talking about?
I use right shift every time I need to capitalize a key on the left hand typing layout (QWERT, ASDFG, ZXCVB), as that's how we were taught to touch type in the good old days.
Doesn't EVERY touch typist use the right shift?
Do people not know how to touch type anymore?
Just how old are you people?
I wouldn't use a keyboard without a right shift key even if it were GIVEN to me and even if it were RGB, made by Ducky, with Romer-G perfect backlighting.
Doesn't EVERY touch typist use the right shift?Obviously not. As one example, Sean Wrona, one of the fastest typists in the world, mostly eschews the shift keys altogether and just presses caps lock before and after each capitalized letter.
Do people not know how to touch type anymore?Well, first, most people don’t know how to touch type. But second, there’s nothing inherently wrong with developing a personal not-by-the-book technique. My personal feeling is that several aspects of “standard” technique are suboptimal, or in some cases actively harmful (i.e. lead to RSI).
Just how old are you people?I’m 29, and I was never formally trained to type. Though I did teach myself in a fairly deliberate way in about 5th grade.
Does having one of those smaller right side shift buttons mess you up when typing?
I'm talking about the layouts where they reduce the size of the shift to accommodate the arrow keys - usually the layout you get on the 84 style compact keyboards.
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I just can't get used to it :(
What are you kids talking about?
I use right shift every time I need to capitalize a key on the left hand typing layout (QWERT, ASDFG, ZXCVB), as that's how we were taught to touch type in the good old days.
Doesn't EVERY touch typist use the right shift?
Do people not know how to touch type anymore?
Just how old are you people?
I wouldn't use a keyboard without a right shift key even if it were GIVEN to me and even if it were RGB, made by Ducky, with Romer-G perfect backlighting.
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The biggest problem with boards that have short right shifts is finding new cap sets
I'm fine with it being a little bit shorter, like what's on the KBT Pure (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=200), but if it gets too short, I find it unusable.Nice to see you back Mashby. :)
When I first got back into mechanical keyboards, I bought the KBT Race (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=145). It was smaller than a Tenkeyless, but not as small as a 60%. I thought it was a happy medium. Unfortunately, the right shift did me in. I kept hitting the arrow key.
The right shift on the Race is 1.25x and the Pure is 1.75x, so I guess I'm saying that anything smaller than 1.75x is too small for me.
Nice to see you back Mashby. :)
1.75u shift is best shift.
1.75u shift is best shift.
So hard to fidn though =(