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Title: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:36:25
Hello, we have been able to get a source to run another gateron switch group buy, and as far as we know we can get any color we like. To see how many people would like to order, please fill out the interest check below;

Here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-rfSe6hA4ylYEeMVY3gZuQyvWM-Bx5yILilJ68oxs30/viewform)


After seeing how great gaterons are, we have decided to have our own run, and as far as we know, MOQ is not a problem and will come at around .16-.18 per switch (not 100% confirmed, but suggested by contact), if there's any other questions or anything related to the possibility of another gateron group buy, please post here or add a comment on to the google form at the bottom. Thank you!

Heres some current numbers, we need around 100k before it's feasible to do a group buy (not an MOQ just a point to aim for) anyway heres the numbers;

(http://puu.sh/hZQzj/4b4a4513ef.png)
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:41:17
i would join another round if these new batches are entirely free of the (minor) issues the previous GB had
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:42:09
i would join another round if these new batches are entirely free of the (minor) issues the previous GB had
What issues did the last one have? IIRC it went really well, were there any quality issues?
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:46:47
Who is we? Who will handle shipping etc? Does this involve the previous group who ran this GB??
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: CyriusG on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:47:48
Some switchtops caused the keycap to catch on. I have no need for any new switches but I would be interested in some clear switchtops.
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:49:43
Who is we? Who will handle shipping etc? Does this involve the previous group who ran this GB??
We includes me, and a person outside of geekhack who are dealing with gateron directly, who will then send the switches to me (justify) to sort and ship the switches.


This groupbuy is running without the help from the previous people who ran the first gateron groupbuy. Entirely different people :).
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:50:15
I'd rather have the previous gang run it considering how fast and smooth it went.
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:52:05
I'd rather have the previous gang run it considering how fast and smooth it went.
The switches would be shipped to UK, sorted then posted within 3-4 days, we also arent bound to MOQs afaik so it could be even faster. Shipping would be fast too and we have more shipping options to choose from. The prices arent solid right now but we might be able to get them cheaper, watch this space  :thumb:
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:53:44
So how is the moq not a problem for you guys? Did the factory change their requirements or are you just buying up to MOQ immediately?
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: vindaon on Fri, 22 May 2015, 09:05:40
Would be interested in more Gateron Clears/Blacks.

Any chance of gateron clear switch tops?
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 22 May 2015, 09:07:37
Would be interested in more Gateron Clears/Blacks.

Any chance of gateron clear switch tops?
We are looking into it, ill update you on tops later, ill add in a question in the IC form for it, just incase :)
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 22 May 2015, 09:19:56
So how is the moq not a problem for you guys? Did the factory change their requirements or are you just buying up to MOQ immediately?
we're buying from a distribution center as far as I know, we aren't dealing with factory. It might actually work out 1-2c cheaper than your group buy with no MOQ :)
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 22 May 2015, 10:27:57
were there any quality issues?
just the slight problem of some keycap types being stuck on the switch top, probably due to inconsistent quality control
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Sat, 23 May 2015, 09:26:56
were there any quality issues?
just the slight problem of some keycap types being stuck on the switch top, probably due to inconsistent quality control
Probably not much we can do about that unless they have changed their methods of QC  :-X
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: pkircher on Sun, 24 May 2015, 06:04:19
id take a bunch .. form filled .. for 1000 switches / since i missed the last run .. hope the 100k mark happens
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 24 May 2015, 20:11:39
I'll just say that it might be hard to get 100k again, especially in such close proximity to the last buy
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 24 May 2015, 20:39:11
@justify: Can you confirm that these are Gateron KS-3 with translucent white casings like in the previous group buy?

I was pleasantly surprised with the (four!) Gateron Browns I got so I would like some more for a keyboard.
I am also interested in a couple each of Yellow and Red to collect each type. :)
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Epsilahn on Sun, 24 May 2015, 21:12:07
I'm definitely in for this.  I will desolder my K70, LEDs and all, for some gateron clears.  Without frilly keycaps, I don't anticipate any sticking problems, and the chance to have even lighter springs, less play in the stems, and smoother operation?  With the delicious floating keys, on a 100% board, with a heavy, aluminum, single-piece face plate?  Mein gott!

It may not be the "in" thing right now, but I slightly favor function over form, and that's about as close to the apex as you can get, provided you don't intend to swap switches often, without doing it custom from the ground up.  And I've not designed a custom PCB.  Yet.
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Mon, 25 May 2015, 07:41:03
I'll just say that it might be hard to get 100k again, especially in such close proximity to the last buy
It might be hard, but we are very near 1/10th of the way there in terms of interest, so its not totally impossible  :thumb:
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 25 May 2015, 11:56:45
Wait, even with the new source we still have to hit 100k?
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:07:18
he said that's something to aim for but there isn't a hard MOQ. i.e. they are flexible can decide to run the GB if there are 95k or even 90k
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: absyrd on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:08:32
Wait, even with the new source we still have to hit 100k?

He says no MOQ, but then says we need 100k "to aim for"... sounds like MOQ.
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:25:40
he said that's something to aim for but there isn't a hard MOQ. i.e. they are flexible can decide to run the GB if there are 95k or even 90k

Wait, even with the new source we still have to hit 100k?

He says no MOQ, but then says we need 100k "to aim for"... sounds like MOQ.
Its not an MOQ, same reason why I dont start a group buy and start individual orders right now, when I can wait until theres lots of interest then do one buy from the source. we just need a high figure before I think its good to place one order, hope that makes sense :) It would be cool if some vendors could reach out and get some big orders in, makes it easier for us to make the figure I mentioned  :thumb:
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:25:43
I'll just say that it might be hard to get 100k again, especially in such close proximity to the last buy
It might be hard, but we are very near 1/10th of the way there in terms of interest, so its not totally impossible  :thumb:
I'd say you might have to see how much lower your distributor will do that's still feasible
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:27:35
I'll just say that it might be hard to get 100k again, especially in such close proximity to the last buy
It might be hard, but we are very near 1/10th of the way there in terms of interest, so its not totally impossible  :thumb:
I'd say you might have to see how much lower your distributor will do that's still feasible
We can go as high or as low as we want, but our goal is around 100k :)
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Vintage on Mon, 25 May 2015, 16:35:07
Interested!
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 25 May 2015, 16:36:00
I am interested if you have clear tops
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Bromono on Mon, 25 May 2015, 16:52:17
do u have any record of doing any other gbs?
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Mon, 25 May 2015, 18:16:05
do u have any record of doing any other gbs?
Nope! this is my first one. I will be getting samples from our distributor soon, so you can see that we are taking this just as seriously as you are. Everyone has to start somewhere!
Title: Re: Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Tue, 26 May 2015, 17:54:16
I am interested if you have clear tops
Clear tops should be available, as they are very popular according to the spreadsheet, we will see what our disti gives us in the sample package. Pics of the samples will be here as soon as I get them  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: sprit on Wed, 27 May 2015, 12:42:12
I got a direct answer from Gateron Sales part last month.

The MOQ was 5K-10K (5,000 - 10,000 pcs) for each switch,  if I read the Arabian numbers correctly.     

But it may depend on stock qty.

I can check it again, if you guys want.  ;) 
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Wed, 27 May 2015, 13:00:18
I got a direct answer from Gateron Sales part last month.

The MOQ was 5K-10K (5,000 - 10,000 pcs),  if I read the Arabian numbers correctly.     

But it may depend on stock qty.

I can check it again, if you guys want.  ;)
Thanks to sprit, we are now over 1/10th of the way towards our goal, lets make it happen guys! If you could put this in your banner or something and spread the word, that would be awesome, thanks guys!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Epsilahn on Thu, 04 June 2015, 22:13:52
This thread is looking kind of dormant.  Is there any update?  Did you receive any samples, Justify?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: scott.stamp on Fri, 05 June 2015, 03:50:33
I'd be down for 100pcs of Blues if this is still going ahead.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 05 June 2015, 10:53:16
unlikley that will happen . seems like the interrest disapeared and is nowhere the required volume
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:27:52
unlikley that will happen . seems like the interrest disapeared and is nowhere the required volume

Yeah I just bought a 110 pack from the Massdrop. No real reason to participate in this anymore.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Epsilahn on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:47:43
unlikley that will happen . seems like the interrest disapeared and is nowhere the required volume

Yeah I just bought a 110 pack from the Massdrop. No real reason to participate in this anymore.

Apart from the minimum 35 dollar order per switch type, and the built-in 50% markup over taobao and nearly a full 100% of what was previously offered here. I actually ordered in that drop because this looks dead, but I still want every switch I put in for here.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Tue, 09 June 2015, 16:14:26
This thread is looking kind of dormant.  Is there any update?  Did you receive any samples, Justify?
Should be here soon, guy is on holiday :) Interest is 25k roughly, still full speed ahead. I just havent been on GH often enough to update as much as I would like, thanks for your patience!w
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: natemz on Wed, 10 June 2015, 13:48:20
Mark me as interested. I would really be interested in getting the clear tops as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: quake4mhg on Wed, 10 June 2015, 14:52:57
Just curious is the clear top transparent? or milky white? Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 10 June 2015, 15:12:38
Just curious is the clear top transparent? or milky white? Thanks.
They are milky:
I believe this needs to be here:
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
Left to right: AboStudio (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46446.0) Clear tops (R2), Gateron clear switch covers, Standard Gateron tops
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: MagicMan on Wed, 10 June 2015, 20:54:16
I would be interested for this as well. I was not around for the previous mass drop so I missed out.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: dyrdevil on Wed, 10 June 2015, 22:28:17
I also missed the previous gb, so count me as interested.  However I probably will only order a couple of keyboard's worth of switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: E3E on Wed, 10 June 2015, 23:29:58
Let's do it, guys! I sadly missed the last amazing GB and since spent way more than I needed to on Massdrop just to sample these lovely Gaterons. Another GB for such a great price would be amazing!


EDIT: I'm assuming with the huge amount of switches ordered with the last group buy and with some people seeming skeptical of justify being able to deliver due to GB inexperience (I guess?), interest in this has dwindled?

That's saddening. :(
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: justify on Fri, 19 June 2015, 10:37:51
Let's do it, guys! I sadly missed the last amazing GB and since spent way more than I needed to on Massdrop just to sample these lovely Gaterons. Another GB for such a great price would be amazing!


EDIT: I'm assuming with the huge amount of switches ordered with the last group buy and with some people seeming skeptical of justify being able to deliver due to GB inexperience (I guess?), interest in this has dwindled?

That's saddening. :(
I can't start until I get conformation from my source to give it a go-ahead, updating soon. Samples havent arrived yet!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 07 July 2015, 22:34:17
well i guess thats dead .. i source mine somewhere else, tired of waiting .. thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 07 July 2015, 23:18:55
Let's do it, guys! I sadly missed the last amazing GB and since spent way more than I needed to on Massdrop just to sample these lovely Gaterons. Another GB for such a great price would be amazing!


EDIT: I'm assuming with the huge amount of switches ordered with the last group buy and with some people seeming skeptical of justify being able to deliver due to GB inexperience (I guess?), interest in this has dwindled?

That's saddening. :(
I can't start until I get conformation from my source to give it a go-ahead, updating soon. Samples havent arrived yet!
I am in for 5k clear switch tops, but I need to know the price before proceeding..
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: Cameron on Wed, 08 July 2015, 09:10:25
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.14.1Vp0D4&id=40671384583&ns=1&abbucket=10#detail (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.14.1Vp0D4&id=40671384583&ns=1&abbucket=10#detail)


You can buy them from TaoBao at 21c USD. If the price is as high as 18c, you may as well buy them off TaoBao and get them faster.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: UKKeycaps on Wed, 08 July 2015, 09:29:04
If the price is 0.16 then I'm very interested
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 08 July 2015, 12:04:07
I would be interested if the buy takes place like next month. Don't have the funds right now though to really buy what I'd want.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: c137 on Thu, 09 July 2015, 16:39:25
I basically would be interested in a sampler package, maybe 5 switches per type.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: pokkuhlag on Tue, 04 August 2015, 12:29:34
Bump, any news from this interest check?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron switch Interest Check
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:27:25
I would really love another Gateron buy, although I know it's probably not too realistic.