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Title: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 August 2015, 20:54:27
I bought my first HHKB (black) around 2 weeks ago and I ENJOYED it so much. Threw out all my other keyboards pretty much because there's no better feeling than typing on Topre. Not satisfied with just owning one, I looked at pretty pictures of the white model in GH and Reddit. I thought about it and started to develop reasoning to buy another HHKB. We'll put it at work then!

So I went ahead and buy the white model. I didn't think of buying the type-S at first cause I researched about it and watch YT videos and decided the stock one sounded nicer. Or so I thought.

Now I can't sleep thinking about that type-S (the actual marking in the top right of the case). Is it crazy to get my 3rd one in just 3 weeks? I can maybe put the normal white one in my other office, and use the type-S at home.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 16 August 2015, 20:55:49
Hhkb is love
Hhkb is life
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: byker on Sun, 16 August 2015, 20:56:38
Hhkb is love
Hhkb is life

 ^-^
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: nmur on Sun, 16 August 2015, 20:59:55
3 HHKBs in 3 weeks is pretty hardcore dude

if you already have a white one and black one, maybe look at other topre boards like a RealForce or something
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:04:18
3 HHKBs in 3 weeks is pretty hardcore dude

if you already have a white one and black one, maybe look at other topre boards like a RealForce or something

See the thing is that I don't really dig the aesthetics of those RF keyboards. I like em small and minimalist :D

The only other keyboard that I might buy too next is the Novatouch TKL. The thought of Topre + DSA Dolch is too irresistible.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:20:07
3 HHKBs in 3 weeks is pretty hardcore dude

if you already have a white one and black one, maybe look at other topre boards like a RealForce or something

See the thing is that I don't really dig the aesthetics of those RF keyboards. I like em small and minimalist :D

The only other keyboard that I might buy too next is the Novatouch TKL. The thought of Topre + DSA Dolch is too irresistible.

You can buy sliders soon and replace your HHKB sliders with MX/Topre Sliders...Would be some work but probably better than getting a Novatouch (and cheaper). 
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:26:06
Soon? What sliders??
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: nmur on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:29:36
Soon? What sliders??

The sliders mentioned in this group buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71630.0). They were only available along with purchase of a keyset, but they will be available on their own in the future.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:34:09
Oh damn, and another gb that I missed. Will keep an eye on it then.

Thanks!
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:47:42
Hhkb is love
Hhkb is life

 ^-^

+ ^-^
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Cicada88 on Sun, 16 August 2015, 22:13:57
Just collect all the models :)
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 16 August 2015, 22:17:30
Did you also buy the printed and blanks caps for your HHKB? You know you want one of each.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 August 2015, 22:30:03
Did you also buy the printed and blanks caps for your HHKB? You know you want one of each.

My black and white came with printed, so yeah I bought them their respective blank keys.

Gonna buy the type-S with blanks I think.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 16 August 2015, 22:35:15
Why not do the landing pad silencing mod on one of them?
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 August 2015, 22:41:47
I'm thinking of doing the dental band mod on one of them in the future, but I'm concerned about the shorter travel distance I've been reading about.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: shrubkeys on Sun, 16 August 2015, 23:58:19
...which is why he suggested the landing pad mod.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 17 August 2015, 02:23:03
Man this thread pretty much just helped me justify buying a second HHKB. I needs a white one to go with my black one so people dont call me racist.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: henz on Mon, 17 August 2015, 02:27:18
get a jp!
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 17 August 2015, 03:09:11
Man this thread pretty much just helped me justify buying a second HHKB. I needs a white one to go with my black one so people dont call me racist.

*fist bump*
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: TastaturenAuslese on Mon, 17 August 2015, 03:23:09
I bought my first HHKB (black) around 2 weeks ago and I ENJOYED it so much. Threw out all my other keyboards pretty much because there's no better feeling than typing on Topre. Not satisfied with just owning one, I looked at pretty pictures of the white model in GH and Reddit. I thought about it and started to develop reasoning to buy another HHKB. We'll put it at work then!

So I went ahead and buy the white model. I didn't think of buying the type-S at first cause I researched about it and watch YT videos and decided the stock one sounded nicer. Or so I thought.

Now I can't sleep thinking about that type-S (the actual marking in the top right of the case). Is it crazy to get my 3rd one in just 3 weeks? I can maybe put the normal white one in my other office, and use the type-S at home.
Landing pad mod. Do it. It's more satisfying than the type-S cause you know you did it yourself.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Sencha on Mon, 17 August 2015, 04:33:22
Now that it's come in to your mind you're going to have to get it. But the type s isn't great imo. It doesn't sound like a topre and the feel isn't as good either. Forget about the price making it seem better and ask yourself. Do you want a more quite board that lacks a little soul in comparison to the Stock?
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 17 August 2015, 04:43:06
Which landing pad should I get? I have no clue which one fits it perfectly.

@Sencha: I thought about that too for the longest time, but as you said it, once you thought about it, it sticks in your head. I'm a sucker for exterior look, so in a way, it's that Type-S badging that makes me want it even more xD
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 17 August 2015, 04:48:06
Which landing pad should I get? I have no clue which one fits it perfectly.

@Sencha: I thought about that too for the longest time, but as you said it, once you thought about it, it sticks in your head. I'm a sucker for exterior look, so in a way, it's that Type-S badging that makes me want it even more xD
These: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,slpads&pid=sl120_cs

But it takes quite a lot of work. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0



Also, another batch of these are being produced http://deskthority.net/help-f53/silencing-rings-for-topre-rf-or-hhkb-t10051.html if you are not up to the work involved of the ironed landing pad method. Just read up on the thread for more information.

Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 17 August 2015, 05:28:28
Thanks for the info!

Will read more and try to order some. I'm gonna do a surgery on my black one.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 17 August 2015, 05:41:53
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having 3 or more (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg983362#msg983362) HHKBs!
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:21:11
Damn rowdy, now there's no turning back. I'm ordering it!!!
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:30:11

Damn rowdy, now there's no turning back. I'm ordering it!!!
Where's that link where Bunny Lake posted a photo of 9 HHKBs?
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 17 August 2015, 08:26:41
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having 3 or more (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg983362#msg983362) HHKBs!

Bahaha, I love hcry's HHKB addiction.  :))  When I was at KeyCon West with him and mentioned that I was considering buying an HHKB, his response was "which color?", and then he sold me the one I wanted, as if operating a storefront. 

:cool:
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: ConscienceDrop on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:16:34
had my hands on the whole topre spectrum. hhkb is the only one i find is nice to use. That being said, even then i dont find it the most rewarding switch, but its in all fairness the board you will often pick up and use if you have it because its so middle of the road and amazing at what it does. side by side comparisons however always leave me feeling its not really worth it at the end of the day unless you are typing all the time or really just care that much about feeling over all other considerations. Because tbh the layout is ****, and the feet are **** and it is lacking in quality for the price.

real talk.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:19:56
Because tbh the layout is ****, and the feet are **** and it is lacking in quality for the price.

Layout can be great, depending on your needs.  And the feet are fixed easily with some aftermarket feet.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: keshley on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:22:08
I liked my old HHKB a lot, but hated the layout. This was before anybody had made any custom controllers for them.

I think if I still had one on hand, I'd be using hasu's controller. Assuming that fixed all my complaints about the HHKB, then yes, buying a second, or even a third wouldn't be unwarranted IMO :)
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:23:49
Someone proxy one through me and let me try it out for a week lol
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: saturnotaku on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:37:11
And the feet are fixed easily with some aftermarket feet.

Or a mat under the keyboard. I cut a Razer Goliathus mouse pad, about 60% of which is used at my home desk with the remainder under my HHKB. It does a good job of keeping the board from sliding around my work desk.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: trees on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:39:31
And the feet are fixed easily with some aftermarket feet.

Or a mat under the keyboard. I cut a Razer Goliathus mouse pad, about 60% of which is used at my home desk with the remainder under my HHKB. It does a good job of keeping the board from sliding around my work desk.

This. I always have a mat under my keyboard. At home i use a Goliathus extended for both my mouse and keyboard. At work i use a trackball, but keep and intel pad that came with my processor under my FC660c
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: GenKaan on Mon, 17 August 2015, 10:01:38
I really love my HHKB as well, made this today :)

http://gfycat.com/DefensiveDearAmmonite
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: derb2k2 on Mon, 17 August 2015, 17:34:19
OP, I completely understand you!

After purchasing my first HHKB, I wanted the other color scheme and got it within 2 months of the first one. Then I also longed for the Type-S due to the upstroke on the normal HHKB. But ofcourse, I couldn't bring myself to make another investment like this for the time being. But I definitely wanted it lol
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: jerue on Mon, 17 August 2015, 18:03:39
I'm very, very glad I finally bought a HHKB a few weeks ago.

But I don't think I'll need another one. Topre boards are odd, in a great way, because I never really get that feeling they need more (except PBT spacebars). I've either modded, or plan to mod, all of my MX or IBM boards, but I don't get this sensation with Topre. Sure, I'd definitely put artisans/blanks on my Topre boards. But full out mods? Nah.

OP, get a 55g Realforce. Try it, if you don't like it, swap the domes in your HHKB so you can have a 55g one.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 17 August 2015, 19:11:33
Is 55g on the HHKB really like a night and day? The thing is I'm just too scared to crack open my gadgets, let alone 2 of them xD
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: abswyfe on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:42:50
Is 55g on the HHKB really like a night and day? The thing is I'm just too scared to crack open my gadgets, let alone 2 of them xD

Stock 45g is so smooth with a touch of tactility and soft landing

No need for modifications

 :p :p :p
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Remenition on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:37:23
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having 3 or more (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg983362#msg983362) HHKBs!
what about you, hhkb hapster? how many do you own?
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:43:35
Is 55g on the HHKB really like a night and day? The thing is I'm just too scared to crack open my gadgets, let alone 2 of them xD

Stock 45g is so smooth with a touch of tactility and soft landing

No need for modifications

 :p :p :p
55G HHKB 4 lyfe.

Don't listen to this HHKB novice, 55g is great, mate.



I think you have been talking to demik too much. Him and his "keep topre pure" non sense.  :))

Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Remenition on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:50:51
Is 55g on the HHKB really like a night and day? The thing is I'm just too scared to crack open my gadgets, let alone 2 of them xD

Stock 45g is so smooth with a touch of tactility and soft landing

No need for modifications

 :p :p :p
55G HHKB 4 lyfe.

Don't listen to this HHKB novice, 55g is great, mate.



I think you have been talking to demik too much. Him and his "keep topre pure" non sense.  :))
agree #55gcuprubbermasterrace
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: dante on Tue, 18 August 2015, 12:41:54
I had the opportunity to type on a HHKB Lite (rubberdome) at a computer show.

I know this will sound like heresy ... and yes while the HHKB Pro does feel better I didn't think the Lite was as bad as people made it out to be.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 18 August 2015, 12:46:10
I had the opportunity to type on a HHKB Lite (rubberdome) at a computer show.

I know this will sound like heresy ... and yes while the HHKB Pro does feel better I didn't think the Lite was as bad as people made it out to be.
I haven't heard many say the lite is terrible. I have heard more "It's one of the better Rubber domes out there" type of thoughts.

It's pretty pricy for a rubber dome, though. I'd rather get a cheaper mechanical keyboard.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 18 August 2015, 13:31:23
Loved the HHKB at first sight and even more after the first test drive. The layout and 60% form factor are perfect for me, I like Topre switches, and the dye-sub PBT keycaps are beautiful.

After getting the standard white and standard black versions, I finally got a Type-S. However, I prefer the sound, feel, and looks of a modded black HHKB with my own silencing rings. I also installed 55g domes in my silenced HHKB and put a set of Topre blue alphas on it.

Sometimes I wish the HHKB had a steel plate like an RF or Novatouch, and I have these other keyboards in my rotation. However, I come back to the HHKB for the 60% form factor and layout (although I use software to remap other keyboards to a HHKB-like layout).

BTW, the silencing rings really transform the Novatouch, so that you can better experience the Topre thock, especially with OEM or SA profile caps. Nevertheless, as good as the Novatouch can be, I still prefer my HHKBs (two at my two workstations at work and one at home).

Enjoy!

Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Macsmasher on Wed, 19 August 2015, 02:35:57
I dusted off one of my RF 87Us and shelved the HHKB today. I'm afraid of completely transitioning to the dark side.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 19 August 2015, 02:43:57
Loved the HHKB at first sight and even more after the first test drive. The layout and 60% form factor are perfect for me, I like Topre switches, and the dye-sub PBT keycaps are beautiful.

After getting the standard white and standard black versions, I finally got a Type-S. However, I prefer the sound, feel, and looks of a modded black HHKB with my own silencing rings. I also installed 55g domes in my silenced HHKB and put a set of Topre blue alphas on it.

Sometimes I wish the HHKB had a steel plate like an RF or Novatouch, and I have these other keyboards in my rotation. However, I come back to the HHKB for the 60% form factor and layout (although I use software to remap other keyboards to a HHKB-like layout).

BTW, the silencing rings really transform the Novatouch, so that you can better experience the Topre thock, especially with OEM or SA profile caps. Nevertheless, as good as the Novatouch can be, I still prefer my HHKBs (two at my two workstations at work and one at home).

Enjoy!

And on that note, I will need those rings when they're back in stock :)
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: yomammary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 07:11:01
I dusted off one of my RF 87Us and shelved the HHKB today. I'm afraid of completely transitioning to the dark side.
Yeah I'm looking to buy one to replace my HHKB :-[
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: Macsmasher on Fri, 21 August 2015, 22:25:00
I'm thinking of doing the dental band mod on one of them in the future, but I'm concerned about the shorter travel distance I've been reading about.


According to PFU, the factory silenced HHKB Type-S has reduced key travel. 3.8mm vs 4mm for the standard HHKB.


https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2_types/feature.html
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: ajx on Sat, 22 August 2015, 04:01:14
This is geek-happy-hacking-keyboard forum  ;D
Every two/three threads, there is a related thread about hhkb
''Why Topre is the superior switch over MX Cherry''
''Best keyboard ever: HHKB''
''I sleep every night along my swee tHHKB''

Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Sat, 22 August 2015, 16:19:09
Hhkb is love
Hhkb is life

(http://media.giphy.com/media/MUeQeEQaDCjE4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 23 August 2015, 00:50:57
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having 3 or more (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg983362#msg983362) HHKBs!
what about you, hhkb hapster? how many do you own?

I must regrettably report that budgetary constraints limit me to ownership of just one HHKB, a non-silenced white edition.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 26 August 2015, 00:13:04
Going to collect my Type-S in 2 days from a friend.

Now I have another dilemma. I've been wanting a MX board so I can put some MX caps in, but I have no idea what to buy. Was gonna settle on the Novatouch but I found out MX Bros won't fit because of the square stems.

I had purchased a Poker 2 too because Pok3r is not yet available in my country, and yesterday I yanked one of the stems right out. Being me, I feel disgusted and had no intention to fix it cause it turns out I have to desolder the damn thing.

Now I can buy a Pok3r with clears just to play around with, or still go with the Novatouch for the Topre experience.

Help guys?

edit: Forgot to mention I already have 3 keysets on the way: DSA Dolch, Granite, and Eve. Also just remember about the FC660M, but that spacebar though...
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: zars15 on Wed, 26 August 2015, 01:19:12
Going to collect my Type-S in 2 days from a friend.

Now I have another dilemma. I've been wanting a MX board so I can put some MX caps in, but I have no idea what to buy. Was gonna settle on the Novatouch but I found out MX Bros won't fit because of the square stems.

I had purchased a Poker 2 too because Pok3r is not yet available in my country, and yesterday  yanked one of the stems right out. Being me, I feel disgusted and had no intention to fix it cause it turns out I have to desolder the damn thing.

Now I can buy a Pok3r with clears just to play around with, or still go with the Novatouch for the Topre experience.

Help guys?

edit: Forgot to mention I already have 3 keysets on the way: DSA Dolch, Granite, and Eve. Also just remember about the FC660M, but that spacebar though...

You pulled out the stem? How does that work?  :confused: Soldering switches is easy, but getting them off(without proper tools) is hell. At least I managed to find some tool, that looks like key cap puller and it grips switches perfectly, so it wasn't that bad in the end.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 26 August 2015, 01:25:20
Was trying some POM keycaps and I misplaced one so I had to take it off. Yanked the stem to my surprise.

The POM keycap was kinda stiff and I forgot to wiggle instead of just pulling them up.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: ssdt on Wed, 26 August 2015, 03:39:51
Was trying some POM keycaps and I misplaced one so I had to take it off. Yanked the stem to my surprise.

The POM keycap was kinda stiff and I forgot to wiggle instead of just pulling them up.
Same here dude, I feel you. Bought a new pok3r, went to change the caps, !wiggled!, but still ripped apart 12 (yes, f***ing twelve) stems. I was infuriated. I compared the switches (old and new reds) and was not very pleased with the new ones. Thinner plastic and the hook on the bottom is much smaller. Feels like a ripoff.
Title: Re: I need a HHKB therapy
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 30 August 2015, 07:12:40
Ok so I'm finally back from my trip and hooked my type-S up. Tried 10fastfingers for kicks and right away I got 94wpm, with my previous average on normal HHKB at 86wpm.

Somehow the type-S is so much nicer to type on. I'm gonna try the 87U 55g next and see how that feels.