"A culture focused on entirely on quarterly earnings will never be anything other than an every man for himself rat race." Lisa Mc Leod (http://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaearlemcleod/2015/09/25/why-volkswagens-purpose-created-problems/) wrote for Forbes on the VW so called, scandal. She said that scandal is a CEO affair, this problem, instead, was an intentional plan to deceive.If I owned a VW right now, I would be a satisfied customer who received a high-performance vehicle which passes an emissions check.
What do you think?
This has far less to do with technology.They did innovate, though. They innovated the cheapest way to make a high-performance diesel vehicle which can pass an emissions test.
It has everything to do with Dynastic Rule.
Germans are falling behind, because their vertical integration coming out of WWII has lead to an invincible production dynasty that hinders CREATIVE-Innovations..
Anything that challenges the traditional formula in their design language is met with swift purge.
Because of this, their industry can not innovate at the rate of the other two makers USA/ Japan. It's not that they don't have the engineers or the technology. An unchallenged industry simply does not bother with fostering new ideas.
Because of this lag... they decided, crap, we don't have competitive vehicles to meet the fashionable emission craze.. Think of how much money selling 6 million cars is.. each car has something like 4 zeros and a 1st place number between 2 and 4...
If it waited in this time frame (5-10) years to finish innovation, if would be billions of dollars behind in terms of sales..
they might not recover from something like that as the current developed economy continues to be saturated with cars..
It's sad how few people actually care, the damage they have done to our environment while lying about it is massive, but all anyone cares about is mpg and reliability. Makes me wonder if this place is actually worth trying to protect...
VW should recall and refund every one of these cars. if not a refund then a full replacement with a vehicle that does not have these issues.
at the VERY least.
It's sad how few people actually care, the damage they have done to our environment while lying about it is massive, but all anyone cares about is mpg and reliability. Makes me wonder if this place is actually worth trying to protect...
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hcswuLb.png)
This is because a newer technology is already here that the car industry want the world to adopt - that is cheap and easy to manufacture, small, light, turbo charged petrol engines. All those little diesels that people bought because of government scrappage schemes and tax incentives are going to be replaced by these little turbo petrols - likely with the help of scrappage schemes and tax incentives. It is a situation caused by the need for perpetual growth, that requires perpetual consumption. See VW/Audi FSI engines as an example of the early models tee'd up to replace them.
"Because of this, their industry can not innovate at the rate of the other two makers USA/ Japan"
Did you keep a straight face when you typed that? USA cars are among the worst in the world - I thought everyone knew that. They have nothing even approaching the quality of Audi / BMW / Mercedes / Aston Martin / McClaren / Bentley to name a few. Toyota and Honda are great too, but the Korean cars are probably the biggest threat to German Engineering - but this is mostly a value thing and not to do with innovation. I can't think of an American car that I would drive or that is held in the same regard as any of those I have mentioned above - enlighten me if you know of any.
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.
This is because a newer technology is already here that the car industry want the world to adopt - that is cheap and easy to manufacture, small, light, turbo charged petrol engines. All those little diesels that people bought because of government scrappage schemes and tax incentives are going to be replaced by these little turbo petrols - likely with the help of scrappage schemes and tax incentives. It is a situation caused by the need for perpetual growth, that requires perpetual consumption. See VW/Audi FSI engines as an example of the early models tee'd up to replace them.
"Because of this, their industry can not innovate at the rate of the other two makers USA/ Japan"
Did you keep a straight face when you typed that? USA cars are among the worst in the world - I thought everyone knew that. They have nothing even approaching the quality of Audi / BMW / Mercedes / Aston Martin / McClaren / Bentley to name a few. Toyota and Honda are great too, but the Korean cars are probably the biggest threat to German Engineering - but this is mostly a value thing and not to do with innovation. I can't think of an American car that I would drive or that is held in the same regard as any of those I have mentioned above - enlighten me if you know of any.
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.
Ford?
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hcswuLb.png)
Would be relevant if I had mentioned British cars or manufacturing which effectively don't exist anymore - the Brits being bad at making things (which we are) says absolutely nothing about German/Japanese/Korean manufacturing v USA manufacturing.
This is because a newer technology is already here that the car industry want the world to adopt - that is cheap and easy to manufacture, small, light, turbo charged petrol engines. All those little diesels that people bought because of government scrappage schemes and tax incentives are going to be replaced by these little turbo petrols - likely with the help of scrappage schemes and tax incentives. It is a situation caused by the need for perpetual growth, that requires perpetual consumption. See VW/Audi FSI engines as an example of the early models tee'd up to replace them.
"Because of this, their industry can not innovate at the rate of the other two makers USA/ Japan"
Did you keep a straight face when you typed that? USA cars are among the worst in the world - I thought everyone knew that. They have nothing even approaching the quality of Audi / BMW / Mercedes / Aston Martin / McClaren / Bentley to name a few. Toyota and Honda are great too, but the Korean cars are probably the biggest threat to German Engineering - but this is mostly a value thing and not to do with innovation. I can't think of an American car that I would drive or that is held in the same regard as any of those I have mentioned above - enlighten me if you know of any.
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.
Ford?
You mean like the good Fords (Focus RS, Fiesta ST, etc) that aren't designed or made in the US? Or the rubbish ones that are? ;) Well, I guess the F150 is acceptable. All the best Fords have been designed and built primarily in Europe.
Oh and UK make this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom
And Rolls Royce and Bentley still make cars in UK, despite foreign ownership. They're not too bad. Then there's Aston Martin, Jaguar, McLaren, Mini and Land Rover to name a few more. All of which are better than pretty much anything I've ever seen made in US in the last 20 years.
The best US car is the new Corvette, but nobody could claim it was actually well-made when compared to cars from Europe.
This is because a newer technology is already here that the car industry want the world to adopt - that is cheap and easy to manufacture, small, light, turbo charged petrol engines. All those little diesels that people bought because of government scrappage schemes and tax incentives are going to be replaced by these little turbo petrols - likely with the help of scrappage schemes and tax incentives. It is a situation caused by the need for perpetual growth, that requires perpetual consumption. See VW/Audi FSI engines as an example of the early models tee'd up to replace them.
"Because of this, their industry can not innovate at the rate of the other two makers USA/ Japan"
Did you keep a straight face when you typed that? USA cars are among the worst in the world - I thought everyone knew that. They have nothing even approaching the quality of Audi / BMW / Mercedes / Aston Martin / McClaren / Bentley to name a few. Toyota and Honda are great too, but the Korean cars are probably the biggest threat to German Engineering - but this is mostly a value thing and not to do with innovation. I can't think of an American car that I would drive or that is held in the same regard as any of those I have mentioned above - enlighten me if you know of any.
So far my experience of American keyboards has been similar to that of their cars (I am thinking of you DAS and Corsair), and not a patch on Japanese, Korean or German engineered devices.
Ford?
You mean like the good Fords (Focus RS, Fiesta ST, etc) that aren't designed or made in the US? Or the rubbish ones that are? ;) Well, I guess the F150 is acceptable. All the best Fords have been designed and built primarily in Europe.
Oh and UK make this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom)
And Rolls Royce and Bentley still make cars in UK, despite foreign ownership. They're not too bad. Then there's Aston Martin, Jaguar, McLaren, Mini and Land Rover to name a few more. All of which are better than pretty much anything I've ever seen made in US in the last 20 years.
The best US car is the new Corvette, but nobody could claim it was actually well-made when compared to cars from Europe.
Who physically made and designed them isn't important. Apple's stuff is deigned by an English bloke and made by Chinese slaves, doesn't stop Apple products from being American.
Ford is an American company, with there success and funding brilliant cars like the Focus, Mondeo, Fiesta and so on wouldn't have been designed, made or sold anywhere.
Everything I see in the news seems like the most obvious "watch this hand.." trick
What do they not want us to see?
muh tinfoil
Everything I see in the news seems like the most obvious "watch this hand.." trick
What do they not want us to see?
muh tinfoil
TPP
Everything I see in the news seems like the most obvious "watch this hand.." trick
What do they not want us to see?
muh tinfoil
TPP
The Phantom Pain?!
Eyes on Kazuhira
The only reason this came about is because of countries like the UK helping the car manufacturers to only do in house in lab testing and let them regulate themselves, because that's always resulted in the best end result...
Also TPP doesn't involve Europe
My current and Focus's have also been and continue to be brilliant. One of the best driving cars on the market.
My current and Focus's have also been and continue to be brilliant. One of the best driving cars on the market.
A focus is Logitech keyboard at best - cheap and cheerful and does the job.
My current and Focus's have also been and continue to be brilliant. One of the best driving cars on the market.
A focus is Logitech keyboard at best - cheap and cheerful and does the job.
Bull****, but that's the joy of opinions, we both have conflicting views and yet, we are both right.
The USA Focus is not the same as the European one... just FYI.
Anyway, a Lada Riva is more reliable than almost any other car on the planet, but I wouldn't say it's a good one.
I do challenge you to name a GOOD Amerian car made after 1985. Even if you can, is it better than the best made in Germany?
The USA Focus is not the same as the European one... just FYI.
Anyway, a Lada Riva is more reliable than almost any other car on the planet, but I wouldn't say it's a good one.
I do challenge you to name a GOOD Amerian car made after 1985. Even if you can, is it better than the best made in Germany?
The USA Focus is not the same as the European one... just FYI.
Anyway, a Lada Riva is more reliable than almost any other car on the planet, but I wouldn't say it's a good one.
I do challenge you to name a GOOD Amerian car made after 1985. Even if you can, is it better than the best made in Germany?
For Focus, better than a BMW 1 series
Been driving 23 years and have owned 15 cars in that time (some of these were my wife's).
The USA Focus is not the same as the European one... just FYI.
Anyway, a Lada Riva is more reliable than almost any other car on the planet, but I wouldn't say it's a good one.
I do challenge you to name a GOOD Amerian car made after 1985. Even if you can, is it better than the best made in Germany?
For Focus, better than a BMW 1 series
@baldgye, the discussion started over TP's comment that Germany's car "industry can not innovate at the rate of the other two makers USA/ Japan". And your "Ford?" response meant you were saying Ford made good American cars. They don't. The model in the picture is an American model Ford Focus. It's not the same as what you were thinking of because that's the European model. I agree, European Fords are good.
Who physically made and designed them isn't important. Apple's stuff is deigned by an English bloke and made by Chinese slaves, doesn't stop Apple products from being American.
Ford is an American company, with there success and funding brilliant cars like the Focus, Mondeo, Fiesta and so on wouldn't have been designed, made or sold anywhere.
Been driving 23 years and have owned 15 cars in that time (some of these were my wife's).
This hardly helps your argument. How on earth could you have enough exposure to these vehicles when you change them every other year?
Impressed you managed to pick pics of neither car I was talking about. But if you'd driven either car you might have some idea. Also the x5 and x3 are god awful cars.
The Germans make some good stuff, but not everything they do is great. And that Porsche is nice, but I'd take a Zonda or Ferrari over it any day of the week.
I definitely agree with you on the latter. It's not a good car. It's pretty ****. And also it breaks if you sneeze.
Anyway, a Lada Riva is more reliable than almost any other car on the planet, but I wouldn't say it's a good one.
Been driving 23 years and have owned 15 cars in that time (some of these were my wife's).
This hardly helps your argument. How on earth could you have enough exposure to these vehicles when you change them every other year?
"(Some of these were my wife's)". So I have been married for 15 years, and living with her for a total of 21 years, we have always owned 2 cars for work reasons. Some of those cars, like the Pug and a Fait Uno we had in 1994, were terrible and were both kept for less than 6 months. Another (Toyota Carina) was written off in an accident in its first months of ownership. I had both a Mark 1 & Mark 2 VW Golf GTI for some time as projects on classic insurance (3rd cars). So you can then say WE (adults x 2) owned 18 cars in 22 years. That's nine each - average time then becomes around 2.3 years - I believe the norm for working people (at least in the UK) is 3 years. I can decide if I like a car in a month, I can learn all sorts about it in 6 months, and by the time a year has went by I know if I will ever buy another.
I can't see what is so hard to understand about that? Especially on this form, where some people change keyboards like they change their socks, you find it odd that my average ownership of cars is 2.3 years and believe that isn't long enough to evaluate them? Is that what you are saying?