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Title: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 13 November 2015, 17:50:07
I hope all of our French members are safe!
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: mason on Fri, 13 November 2015, 17:57:09
Prayers out to Paris right now. I'm listening to the stream on yahoo.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: kokokoy on Fri, 13 November 2015, 17:58:58
Just read the the terrible news. Praying and hoping for the safety of everyone.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 13 November 2015, 17:59:18
No link for context?

/me googles "Paris"


Edit: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

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Paris attacks: Dozens dead and hostages held at Bataclan
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: byker on Fri, 13 November 2015, 17:59:57
No link for context?

/me googles "Paris"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central)
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:02:18
No link for context?

/me googles "Paris"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central)

Thanks.  That's awful.  :(
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:02:54
I woke up today and my Twitter feed is swamped with the news.

Stay safe people!
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:04:43
I'm safe boyz, terrible ****.
Grenades thrown into a concert, kamikaze attacks.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Sent on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:05:39
Days like this...seriously....*sigh*

Seriously, be safe, azh. 
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:06:39
Terrible, glad to hear you're okay (aside from the azerty) tho!


Sorry for the lack of links Hoffman, didn't think it would be needed :O
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: jbondeson on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:08:46

I'm safe boyz, terrible ****.
Grenades thrown into a concert, kamikaze attacks.

Jesus tapdancing christ. Didn't hear about the grenades.

Stay safe, and good luck in the coming days. Hopefully this isn't the start of something bigger.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:13:21
Jesus I'm sick to my stomach. Getting facebook notifications when my friends in Paris mark themselves as safe.

Pensées pour Paris.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:14:33
I'm safe boyz, terrible ****.
Grenades thrown into a concert, kamikaze attacks.

You were the first who came up in my mind when I read the new just now
Glad you're okay
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: inanis on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:15:33
This is really terrible news. Stay safe over there.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:17:53
I hope this comes to an end soon.

Senseless violence. Damn it.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: bazh on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:20:56
damn who thought that noise at the end of the match could turn out to be like this :(



hope our French mates safe
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:21:33
Sorry for the lack of links Hoffman, didn't think it would be needed :O

It's all good.  I just got home from work so had no idea what was going on.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: 1swt2gs on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:28:39
I'm safe boyz, terrible ****.
Grenades thrown into a concert, kamikaze attacks.

My first thought was you!

Glad to hear you are safe! Prayers to all the families who were affected.

Edit: heres a live link from BBC for anyone whos interested.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:32:21
Just my ninjas
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: GuilleAcoustic on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:43:24
Safe here too, but heavily showed. They talk of about 110 killed, simultaneous attacks at 3 point :

I'm sick of this stupid world. What is worth taking someone's life ?
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:46:17
Safe here too, but heavily showed. They talk of about 150 killed, simultaneous attacks at 3 point :
  • France - Germany football match where they used grenades (no injuries)
  • Pubs near Republic where they shouted all the pubs in the street (around 40 killed)
  • A rock concert at the Bataclan where the shouted the audience during 15minutes, reloading several times (over 100 killed)

I'm sick of this stupid world. What is worth taking someone's life ?

Wow, that's terrible.  Glad you're okay.

I don't mean to be rude, but I think you mean "shot" (past tense of 'shoot') instead of "shouted".  Just trying to help.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:48:14
Safe here too, but heavily showed. They talk of about 110 killed, simultaneous attacks at 3 point :
  • France - Germany football match where they used grenades (no injuries)
  • Pubs near Republic where they shooted all the pubs in the street (around 42 killed)
  • A rock concert at the Bataclan where the shooted the audience during 15minutes, reloading several times (over 70 killed)

I'm sick of this stupid world. What is worth taking someone's life ?

Glad to hear you're safe...this is an unbelievable tragedy.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: GuilleAcoustic on Fri, 13 November 2015, 18:56:40
You aren't rude, my stupid phone autocompleted shooted into shouted... And shocked into showed... Haven't dual checked this post, no like me to not do it...

Plus It was shot and not shoote.... English is not my native language. Everything's not automatic yet.

All my prayer to the families who are crying tonight, the broken dreams, the lost beloved
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: tribade on Fri, 13 November 2015, 19:04:55
https://twitter.com/NewsThisSecond?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

158 dead.  What a tragedy.  I've been following the news for hours now and it's just completely left me in shock.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 13 November 2015, 19:08:03
Paris is ****ed. Always some ******* religious terrorist getting butthurt about something trivial.
It's always Paris and it's always Muslims.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 13 November 2015, 19:10:48
Craziness. Be safe Paris geekhackers.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Bromono on Fri, 13 November 2015, 20:04:59
Please be safe out there my paris buddies!

God Speed
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 13 November 2015, 20:25:09
Wow. I'm camping so no media access here, thanks for posting this. My thoughts and prayers are with our brothers and sisters in Paris. So sorry to hear about this. So glad Azhdar and other Parisians are okay.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 13 November 2015, 22:40:27
The scale of this attack is tragic. I hope that nobody here has any family or friends who were injured or had to witness these events.

I've seen a lot of people on social media claim that their heart goes out to the families of those injured while also claiming that "terrorism has no religion" and that "only 0.01% of Muslims agree with these actions". I just hope nobody here will make such statements, as the two statements are mutually exclusive. The latter statement is false and only helps to perpetuate an attitude and environment in Europe which allows these actions to take place, which conflicts with the former.

Attacks like these only make me more steadfast in my views. While nothing can reverse this or possibly replace the people who were lost, I do hope that it will cause people to think long and hard about the direction their countries are heading in. Europe Awake.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 13 November 2015, 22:55:01
This is just terrible. Paris is such a beautiful city and my heart goes to her and the people there.

Religion might not have anything to do with this but it is religion that is being twisted as a tool to brian washed these crazies to do stuff like this.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 November 2015, 23:28:02
The rich think they can police the world. Sigh....  If only this were true.  Sigh......     When the British were here, when the natives said fk off,  there's little they could do.     

Given that genocide is not an option.  No amount of military occupation is enough to truly conquer the Islamic domain.   I really wish they'd try something else.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: iri on Sat, 14 November 2015, 08:44:05
I'm safe boyz
but you are not in Paris, mate.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 14 November 2015, 09:47:41
The scale of this attack is tragic. I hope that nobody here has any family or friends who were injured or had to witness these events.

I've seen a lot of people on social media claim that their heart goes out to the families of those injured while also claiming that "terrorism has no religion" and that "only 0.01% of Muslims agree with these actions". I just hope nobody here will make such statements, as the two statements are mutually exclusive. The latter statement is false and only helps to perpetuate an attitude and environment in Europe which allows these actions to take place, which conflicts with the former.

Attacks like these only make me more steadfast in my views. While nothing can reverse this or possibly replace the people who were lost, I do hope that it will cause people to think long and hard about the direction their countries are heading in. Europe Awake.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2403642/images/n-TOMMY-ROBINSON-large570.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 14 November 2015, 10:49:50
The country is mourning and will be paralyzed for the next couples of days. Lot of places are closed and it seems that curfews will be in place.

We're still mourning and slowly realising the extent of this event and how it will change a lof of things in France.
But we can't let the mourning of today turn into hate tomorrow. Hate is never the answer. That would make of us people just as bad as them.

Also please people, educate yourself, muslim isn't the ennemy. Some of the muslims are the ennemy.
I have not read it myself but serious intellectuals say that Islam isn't a vindictive religion and that the precepts of the Kuran are being distorded (I'll read the Kuran in a very close future). That wouldn't be the first time that weak-minded people are being lobotomized to serve "bigger purposes".

I also hope no one is forgetting that the West lead by the US is responsible for thousands of death in the East because of wars that should have never happened.
West was the terrorist in those countries.

(http://www.nicematin.com/media_nicematin/imagecache/article-taille-normale-nm/image/ouch/2015/10/06/daf5ac2b39f11da02ab5ced6192c40ae.jpeg)
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 14 November 2015, 11:21:21
Show Image
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2403642/images/n-TOMMY-ROBINSON-large570.jpg)

You know, I thought Tommy Robinson was undoubtedly a racist who just tries to incite hatred, but this video did sway me to some degree. Perhaps you'll choose to not watch it but I think you would find it interesting, even if it doesn't sway your opinion of him.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 14 November 2015, 12:52:40
To give people some perspective of the horror of what happened yesterday at the bataclan:

https://www.reddit.com/r/france/comments/3spopm/fusillade_%C3%A0_paris_megathread/cwzlxvl

shocking content below :



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3drvyw_images-de-la-fusillade-au-bataclan_fun

people that managed to escape, bodies on the floor, people being dragged,
the woman hanging by the window is saying "I can't hold anymore, I'm pregnant"
Meanwhile this pig of a journalist is filming not helping


Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 14 November 2015, 13:15:47
To give people some perspective of the horror of what happened yesterday at the bataclan:

https://www.reddit.com/r/france/comments/3spopm/fusillade_%C3%A0_paris_megathread/cwzlxvl

shocking content below :



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3drvyw_images-de-la-fusillade-au-bataclan_fun

people that managed to escape, bodies on the floor, people being dragged,
the woman hanging by the window is saying "I can't hold anymore, I'm pregnant"
Meanwhile this pig of a journalist is filming not helping

He ended up helping, saving an injured American but getting shot in the arm in the process. That being said, I don't get what his thought process was when he was filming like that and asking "Qu'est-ce qui se passe?" repeatedly when people were obviously in distress. 
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swill on Sat, 14 November 2015, 14:07:18
The country is mourning and will be paralyzed for the next couples of days. Lot of places are closed and it seems that curfews will be in place.

We're still mourning and slowly realising the extent of this event and how it will change a lof of things in France.
But we can't let the mourning of today turn into hate tomorrow. Hate is never the answer. That would make of us people just as bad as them.

Also please people, educate yourself, muslim isn't the ennemy. Some of the muslims are the ennemy.
I have not read it myself but serious intellectuals say that Islam isn't a vindictive religion and that the precepts of the Kuran are being distorded (I'll read the Kuran in a very close future). That wouldn't be the first time that weak-minded people are being lobotomized to serve "bigger purposes".

I also hope no one is forgetting that the West lead by the US is responsible for thousands of death in the East because of wars that should have never happened.
West was the terrorist in those countries.

Show Image
(http://www.nicematin.com/media_nicematin/imagecache/article-taille-normale-nm/image/ouch/2015/10/06/daf5ac2b39f11da02ab5ced6192c40ae.jpeg)

Well said. I hope we can learn from tragedies like this with an open mind and not make this about race and religion.

My condolences to everyone's families involved and wish Paris and its citizens a a speedy recovery. 
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Lord of Narwhals on Sat, 14 November 2015, 15:28:53
I've seen a lot of people on social media claim that their heart goes out to the families of those injured while also claiming that "terrorism has no religion" and that "only 0.01% of Muslims agree with these actions". I just hope nobody here will make such statements, as the two statements are mutually exclusive. The latter statement is false and only helps to perpetuate an attitude and environment in Europe which allows these actions to take place, which conflicts with the former.

Attacks like these only make me more steadfast in my views. While nothing can reverse this or possibly replace the people who were lost, I do hope that it will cause people to think long and hard about the direction their countries are heading in. Europe Awake.
Do you honestly believe that most Muslims don't condemn these attacks? Most of the Muslim refugees here in Europe had to flee from their home countries because of ISIL ffs!
Here's an article you should read. (http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/08/21/muslim-leaders-have-roundly-denounced-islamic-s/200498) Muslims hate ISIL way more than non-Muslims do. After all the vast majority of ISIL's victims are Muslims.

This quote comes to mind:
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How many Muslim children have to be lined up and executed by the Taliban before the world recognizes that the oppressed do not deserve to be categorized with their oppressors?

And terrorism has no religion because it is not a person. It is an action, and religion is a tool that can be used to convince people to commit such an action.

What happened in Paris was a tragedy, but the attack shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone. France has been combating ISIL and other Islamic militants since 2013 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-14/france-pays-price-for-front-line-role-from-syria-to-west-africa) and if you bomb them then they're going to bomb you back.
To quote some ISIL **** from one of their videos:
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As long as you keep bombing you will not live in peace. You will even fear travelling to the market
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 14 November 2015, 16:13:48
Do you honestly believe that most Muslims don't condemn these attacks? Most of the Muslim refugees here in Europe had to flee from their home countries because of ISIL ffs!
Here's an article you should read. (http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/08/21/muslim-leaders-have-roundly-denounced-islamic-s/200498) Muslims hate ISIL way more than non-Muslims do. After all the vast majority of ISIL's victims are Muslims.

This quote comes to mind:
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How many Muslim children have to be lined up and executed by the Taliban before the world recognizes that the oppressed do not deserve to be categorized with their oppressors?

And terrorism has no religion because it is not a person. It is an action, and religion is a tool that can be used to convince people to commit such an action.

I should have been far more clear actually. I didn't properly present my thoughts. You're right, the vast majority of Muslims are against IS and some other terrorist groups, since they not only act against the West but also certain sects of Islam. However, that does not mean that the vast majority of Muslims don't have extremist views. Here are two sources : (1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg)) (2 (http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf)) I believe the first to be biased (Ben Shapiro is a Jewish Zionist, so there's that), so I instead looked towards the second, which is the resource quoted in the video. I believe it to be mostly free of bias. After looking at that source I found the video to be exaggerated in some areas; the numbers that I came to were not quite as high, but were still just as shocking.

Terrorism at this current moment in time absolutely does have an associated religion - a religion that is used to provoke its use - Islam.
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What happened in Paris was a tragedy, but the attack shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone. France has been combating ISIL and other Islamic militants since 2013 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-14/france-pays-price-for-front-line-role-from-syria-to-west-africa) and if you bomb them then they're going to bomb you back.
To quote some ISIL **** from one of their videos:
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As long as you keep bombing you will not live in peace. You will even fear travelling to the market
The attack is not only the product of bombing IS but also of the immigration policy that France (along with the rest of the EU) has had for the past few decades, the lack of integration that comes along with it, and of course the idiotic refugee "crisis".
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swill on Sat, 14 November 2015, 19:50:58
I've seen a lot of people on social media claim that their heart goes out to the families of those injured while also claiming that "terrorism has no religion" and that "only 0.01% of Muslims agree with these actions". I just hope nobody here will make such statements, as the two statements are mutually exclusive. The latter statement is false and only helps to perpetuate an attitude and environment in Europe which allows these actions to take place, which conflicts with the former.

Attacks like these only make me more steadfast in my views. While nothing can reverse this or possibly replace the people who were lost, I do hope that it will cause people to think long and hard about the direction their countries are heading in. Europe Awake.
Do you honestly believe that most Muslims don't condemn these attacks? Most of the Muslim refugees here in Europe had to flee from their home countries because of ISIL ffs!
Here's an article you should read. (http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/08/21/muslim-leaders-have-roundly-denounced-islamic-s/200498) Muslims hate ISIL way more than non-Muslims do. After all the vast majority of ISIL's victims are Muslims.

This quote comes to mind:
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How many Muslim children have to be lined up and executed by the Taliban before the world recognizes that the oppressed do not deserve to be categorized with their oppressors?

And terrorism has no religion because it is not a person. It is an action, and religion is a tool that can be used to convince people to commit such an action.

What happened in Paris was a tragedy, but the attack shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone. France has been combating ISIL and other Islamic militants since 2013 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-14/france-pays-price-for-front-line-role-from-syria-to-west-africa) and if you bomb them then they're going to bomb you back.
To quote some ISIL **** from one of their videos:
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As long as you keep bombing you will not live in peace. You will even fear travelling to the market
Another well written post. +1
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: iri on Sun, 15 November 2015, 08:51:03
IS is the Islamic Theocratic state so it kinda sorta has to do with Islam.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swill on Sun, 15 November 2015, 19:29:34
Worth watching...  http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/09/29/on-cnn-reza-aslan-explains-how-the-media-is-fai/200942
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 15 November 2015, 19:39:29
Talked to one of my Muslim friends today. His name is Zaif, and he's from the West Bank. He teared up as he talked about how awful what's happened in Paris is. He said he can't understand how these people can claim to be Muslim and yet do those awful things.

I'm not Muslim, but I truly believe that many (maybe most) Muslims don't support terrorism, and on the contrary condemn any terrorism especially that done in the name of Islam. Just thought I would throw that out there.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: byker on Sun, 15 November 2015, 19:39:37
Worth watching...  http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/09/29/on-cnn-reza-aslan-explains-how-the-media-is-fai/200942

Thanks for the link. The Intercept has been one of my favourite news websites recently. This article was quite good I thought: https://theintercept.com/2015/11/15/exploiting-emotions-about-paris-to-blame-snowden-distract-from-actual-culprits-who-empowered-isis/ (https://theintercept.com/2015/11/15/exploiting-emotions-about-paris-to-blame-snowden-distract-from-actual-culprits-who-empowered-isis/)
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: Lord of Narwhals on Mon, 16 November 2015, 07:02:06
On the topic of  "Religion of peace/violence/whatever" and "Muslim countries" this video is worth watching.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: billnye on Mon, 16 November 2015, 07:17:52
Read this article recently and it was a very good read: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Stuff like this saddens me. My thoughts are with Europe as they continue to endure the struggle of dealing with the burden of the Middle East.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swill on Mon, 16 November 2015, 10:45:11
On the topic of  "Religion of peace/violence/whatever" and "Muslim countries" this video is worth watching.

Haha.  Same video I posted a couple posts back.  :)
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 18 November 2015, 22:04:41
Man it's so crazy me and my girlfriend were staying at 90 Rue de Charonne about a month ago.... lots of photos taken from that exact address with bodies all over the street
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 November 2015, 22:07:42
Man it's so crazy me and my girlfriend were staying at 90 Rue de Charonne about a month ago.... lots of photos taken from that exact address with bodies all over the street

Ya, thats crazy.  Adds a bit of perspective hu?  These events really are tragic.  :(
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 18 November 2015, 22:39:52
Man it's so crazy me and my girlfriend were staying at 90 Rue de Charonne about a month ago.... lots of photos taken from that exact address with bodies all over the street

Ya, thats crazy.  Adds a bit of perspective hu?  These events really are tragic.  :(

Yeah but I think that kind of thinking is exactly what terrorists want people to feel

Best way to respond is to give literally no ****s and not change one part of your life for the *******s
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 November 2015, 23:51:36
Man it's so crazy me and my girlfriend were staying at 90 Rue de Charonne about a month ago.... lots of photos taken from that exact address with bodies all over the street

Ya, thats crazy.  Adds a bit of perspective hu?  These events really are tragic.  :(

Yeah but I think that kind of thinking is exactly what terrorists want people to feel

Best way to respond is to give literally no ****s and not change one part of your life for the *******s
Ya, I do agree, but we still have to morn the loss of life.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 19 November 2015, 02:18:21
Read this article recently and it was a very good read: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Stuff like this saddens me. My thoughts are with Europe as they continue to endure the struggle of dealing with the burden of the Middle East.

This was a really good read
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 November 2015, 07:50:41
Man it's so crazy me and my girlfriend were staying at 90 Rue de Charonne about a month ago.... lots of photos taken from that exact address with bodies all over the street

Ya, thats crazy.  Adds a bit of perspective hu?  These events really are tragic.  :(

Yeah but I think that kind of thinking is exactly what terrorists want people to feel

Best way to respond is to give literally no ****s and not change one part of your life for the *******s

I certainly don't disagree with the sentiment, and I do understand it.  But you're asking people to go against one of the most basic human instincts (something bad happened there, let's stay away for a bit - pattern recognition and all that).  Again, I do understand what you're saying, but to condemn (not saying you're taking it quite that far, but some are) others for wanting to be safe hardly seems like the best thing to do.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: iri on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:17:40
Best way to respond is to give literally no ****s
I hope the French police and counter-insurgence will give some ****s.
Title: Re: Anyone in Paris?
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 19 November 2015, 19:19:05
Man it's so crazy me and my girlfriend were staying at 90 Rue de Charonne about a month ago.... lots of photos taken from that exact address with bodies all over the street

Ya, thats crazy.  Adds a bit of perspective hu?  These events really are tragic.  :(

Yeah but I think that kind of thinking is exactly what terrorists want people to feel

Best way to respond is to give literally no ****s and not change one part of your life for the *******s

I certainly don't disagree with the sentiment, and I do understand it.  But you're asking people to go against one of the most basic human instincts (something bad happened there, let's stay away for a bit - pattern recognition and all that).  Again, I do understand what you're saying, but to condemn (not saying you're taking it quite that far, but some are) others for wanting to be safe hardly seems like the best thing to do.

Yeah sorry I don't think I communicated the safety part well - I'm not condemning people who are acting more safe or vigilantly

I think being safe and acting fearful though are not necessarily one in the same - it always helps to be vigilant or as Jeff Cooper puts it "condition yellow"