Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:20:52
However, does the rule change, if the female opponent in question is apparently physically larger / stronger..
So, more simply, is it ok to hit a girl that's "Bigger"/ Seemingly stronger than you are..
hrrmmmmmmmmmmm...........
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/70bff581.gif)
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:23:51
death by snu snu
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:25:16
LOL
death by snu snu
love futurama.. sigh.. they never make enuff of the good shows, then there's all that **** on mtv.. jesus..
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:43:10
And it goes both way. If a girl start hitting me, you can be sure I'll smack her ass. Something something equality.
Post by: joey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:43:59
And it goes both way. If a girl start hitting me, you can be sure I'll smack her ass. Something something equality.Smack her ass???
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:44:29
I remembered when mtv is all about music videos and good showsLOL
death by snu snu
love futurama.. sigh.. they never make enuff of the good shows, then there's all that **** on mtv.. jesus..
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:45:26
And it goes both way. If a girl start hitting me, you can be sure I'll smack her ass. Something something equality.Smack her ass???
I meant hitting her back, isn't there an expression with smack/smash and ass ?
Post by: joey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:47:54
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 10 January 2016, 07:50:48
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 10 January 2016, 08:57:01
Not saying this is the correct thing, but it has been instilled into me for so long.
The only way I would ever hit a woman is if I feel endangered for my well being.
If she has a knife or gun, you bet I'm throwing a haymaker.
But if one is hitting me, I can probably de-escalate the situation without hitting her back.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 10 January 2016, 08:57:54
Edit: never done playful spanking, but I guess I'm not opposed...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:14:28
The reason I mention this, is because recently I've come across this large female who sells these large bagel like eatery.. near the machine shop
And to make these large bagels "size of pizzas", I would guess it must require much arm strength.
Because this particular female's fore-arms are as thick as my upper arm..
Thus, I wondered had this stronger female attacked me , would the rules of engagement as dictated in the colloquial gentlemen's code change..
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:19:32
would the rules of engagement as dictated in the colloquial gentlemen's code change..
In today's quasi-egalitarian society, I would guess that a generally equivalent defensive response would probably be acceptable.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:24:10
would the rules of engagement as dictated in the colloquial gentlemen's code change..
In today's quasi-egalitarian society, I would guess that a generally equivalent defensive response would probably be acceptable.
That's very ambiguous, quasi-egalitarian, so is this a paper launch only ? or am I really allowed to "respond' with physical force..
Post by: bazh on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:42:52
I remembered when mtv is all about music videos and good showsLOL
death by snu snu
love futurama.. sigh.. they never make enuff of the good shows, then there's all that **** on mtv.. jesus..
you can say that about almost every channel nowadays, Disney, Cartoon Network, Discovery,... for examples
Post by: bazh on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:46:40
it is not necessary mean that I don't agree with you on the mutual respect things though
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 10 January 2016, 10:28:36
I was raised to never hit a girl. For any reason at all.I was raised to not hit anyone. So gender is unimportant for me.
I have trained some Japanese martial arts many years ago, but the biggest lesson that has given me is that even though I do know how to hit someone, I would not stand a chance in a real fight against someone with real fighting experience - male or female. In 99 times of a hundred, it would be better for me to run.
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 10 January 2016, 10:59:11
Ok, you guys are not focusing on the "absolute strength" difference.
The reason I mention this, is because recently I've come across this large female who sells these large bagel like eatery.. near the machine shop
And to make these large bagels "size of pizzas", I would guess it must require much arm strength.
Because this particular female's fore-arms are as thick as my upper arm..
Thus, I wondered had this stronger female attacked me , would the rules of engagement as dictated in the colloquial gentlemen's code change..
Goes back to self harm.
If I feel threatened, yes I will fight back.
I am not a small dude. I lift 5 days a week and have mando pt 3 times a week. So for the most part, unless she is a she hulk, I feel like i can de-escalte a situation without violence.
but if she is a ufc fighter and is going for blood, I will do what I need to make sure I dont get the **** beaten out of me.
I was raised to never hit a girl. For any reason at all.I was raised to not hit anyone. So gender is unimportant for me.
I have trained some Japanese martial arts many years ago, but the biggest lesson that has given me is that even though I do know how to hit someone, I would not stand a chance in a real fight against someone with real fighting experience - male or female. In 99 times of a hundred, it would be better for me to run.
I grew up in a ****ty town in Miami. fights always happen. whether it was to kill boredom or just settle something that has been building up.
I wouldn't change my child hood. I learned a lot of stuff I feel I wouldn't have learned otherwise.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 00:55:16
Yep these days tv shows suck assI remembered when mtv is all about music videos and good showsLOL
death by snu snu
love futurama.. sigh.. they never make enuff of the good shows, then there's all that **** on mtv.. jesus..
you can say that about almost every channel nowadays, Disney, Cartoon Network, Discovery,... for examples
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 11 January 2016, 01:02:59
but if she is a ufc fighter and is going for blood, I will do what I need to make sure I dont get the **** beaten out of me.
Man if a UFC fighter tried to go me I would run like hell regardless of gender. They are some scary people
Post by: beehatch on Mon, 11 January 2016, 02:59:12
Post by: FreeCopy on Mon, 11 January 2016, 03:16:41
"Never hit hit a woman, naha
But I slapped the **** out of a *****, why you bull****tin'?!"
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 January 2016, 08:00:53
I'm going to quote Suga Free on this one:See when you think a little ahead you gets a little ahead. You little trick.
"Never hit hit a woman, naha
But I slapped the **** out of a *****, why you bull****tin'?!"
POMONA'S ON THE SET NOW
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 11 January 2016, 11:47:22
Post by: Jema on Mon, 11 January 2016, 11:52:44
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 January 2016, 12:32:36
But as a matter of principle, if people want equality they can have equality. If I am expected to treat someone different for simply being a girl, then let's get some old fashioned gender roles going again.
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 January 2016, 12:42:48
Post by: inanis on Mon, 11 January 2016, 12:54:33
I'm generally not one that's quick to fight anyway, so I can't say that I would or would not punch a girl in any given scenario.Slippery slope there. I've had a man come at me and try to hit me. I didn't do anything to warrant the response. If he got me, it would have been very bad. He missed, and I was able to deescalate the situation, but in many cases people aren't so lucky. I strongly believe women should be treated as equals. And if I physically go at someone they have every right to come back at me. But the problem is that the response for many people - primarily men - is to resort to violence even when they aren't being threatened with it themselves. And it is also these men that would use the very argument that you laid out to justify it.
But as a matter of principle, if people want equality they can have equality. If I am expected to treat someone different for simply being a girl, then let's get some old fashioned gender roles going again.
I can talk a big game, but at the end of the day your average adult (and teenage for that matter) male is going to be able to kick my ass if they wanted to. I don't have the strength or speed to stop them. What it really all comes down to is treating each other with decency and respect. I don't think many males want to get attacked either, regardless of it was a female or another male doing the provocation. And just because I don't want a guy attacking me doesn't mean I should be barefoot and pregnant, cooking, cleaning and getting beers for the men in my presence. Not saying you said that, but you know what I mean (hopefully).
To answer TP's question...if she is attacking you, then you are within your rights to try and stop her. But you also must not lose control and go to far. That is the same for any physical altercation, regardless of gender.
Post by: Jema on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:00:26
I'm generally not one that's quick to fight anyway, so I can't say that I would or would not punch a girl in any given scenario.
But as a matter of principle, if people want equality they can have equality. If I am expected to treat someone different for simply being a girl, then let's get some old fashioned gender roles going again.
Hoff just wants to be beat up by a girl ;)
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:02:15
I'm generally not one that's quick to fight anyway, so I can't say that I would or would not punch a girl in any given scenario.
But as a matter of principle, if people want equality they can have equality. If I am expected to treat someone different for simply being a girl, then let's get some old fashioned gender roles going again.
Hoff just wants to be beat up by a girl ;)
I got beat up by a girl the other night
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:09:05
I'm generally not one that's quick to fight anyway, so I can't say that I would or would not punch a girl in any given scenario.Slippery slope there. I've had a man come at me and try to hit me. I didn't do anything to warrant the response. If he got me, it would have been very bad. He missed, and I was able to deescalate the situation, but in many cases people aren't so lucky. I strongly believe women should be treated as equals. And if I physically go at someone they have every right to come back at me. But the problem is that the response for many people - primarily men - is to resort to violence even when they aren't being threatened with it themselves. And it is also these men that would use the very argument that you laid out to justify it.
But as a matter of principle, if people want equality they can have equality. If I am expected to treat someone different for simply being a girl, then let's get some old fashioned gender roles going again.
I can talk a big game, but at the end of the day your average adult (and teenage for that matter) male is going to be able to kick my ass if they wanted to. I don't have the strength or speed to stop them. What it really all comes down to is treating each other with decency and respect. I don't think many males want to get attacked either, regardless of it was a female or another male doing the provocation. And just because I don't want a guy attacking me doesn't mean I should be barefoot and pregnant, cooking, cleaning and getting beers for the men in my presence. Not saying you said that, but you know what I mean (hopefully).
To answer TP's question...if she is attacking you, then you are within your rights to try and stop her. But you also must not lose control and go to far. That is the same for any physical altercation, regardless of gender.
Totally agree. For reference, see my first statement.
The latter half of my post was truly meant to be a matter of principle - in practice I would have a hard time hurting anyone, much less someone significantly smaller/weaker than myself.
I was definitely not imagining a scenario anything like what you've described (I wouldn't act in that way even if it were a guy), but was simply saying that if I were attacked by a woman I would defend myself as I would regardless of gender of the attacker. I am not one to pick fights and be on the more aggressive side of things, so your scenario didn't even occur to me, sorry.
Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:14:57
I'm generally not one that's quick to fight anyway, so I can't say that I would or would not punch a girl in any given scenario.
But as a matter of principle, if people want equality they can have equality. If I am expected to treat someone different for simply being a girl, then let's get some old fashioned gender roles going again.
This is a good point. How can we all be treated equally if these double-standards still exist? We all know that throughout history and even now, girls have been discriminated against by many men, but that doesn't mean that we should flip the standards. We should overcome them to get equality. One should refrain from violence regardless of if they're a boy or a girl - not because of gender, but because there's these things called words that can solve problems without the quick-satisfaction of aggression. Of course there are scenarios where you need to physically defend yourself, where it may be acceptable to use self-defence, but that doesn't mean that one gender somehow deserves to be able to defend themself more than the another.
Rant over. Continue hitting or not hitting men, women, geese, fresh fruit, etc.
Post by: calvinhousecat on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:22:29
However, I've never been in a instance where I'm running from a chick who is wielding a knife or a gun so maybe thats when it will all change.
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:50:22
The way I see it, if someone has it in them to hit you, then I see no reason why I should not retaliate.
This goes for men, women, the pope, the president, etc of all shapes and sizes.
I don't go about instigating people to hit me, but if I get hit, that person can go eff right off if they think I'm just going to take it.
thems my 2 cents.
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:09:25
Post by: digi on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:12:19
Post by: bazh on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:18:44
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?
I don't think I'll get a chance to do anything
Post by: digi on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:20:10
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?
I don't think I'll get a chance to do anything
Maybe in TP4's case, he dodges her first swing then throws his ergodox at her or something..
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:23:57
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Post by: inanis on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:24:52
You say thank you when it is over. Duh.What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Post by: digi on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:25:01
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".
Post by: Jema on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:52:56
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".
(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:56:53
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
You love butts. FITE ME 1V1
Post by: Jema on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:01:42
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
You love butts. FITE ME 1V1
after I eat chipotle
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:02:10
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
You love butts. FITE ME 1V1
after I eat chipotle
I'll buy you chipotle if you could beat me.....
Post by: Jema on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:03:08
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
You love butts. FITE ME 1V1
after I eat chipotle
I'll buy you chipotle if you could beat me.....
what, whoever runs to the bathroom first is the winner? deal
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:08:11
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
You love butts. FITE ME 1V1
after I eat chipotle
I'll buy you chipotle if you could beat me.....
what, whoever runs to the bathroom first is the winner? deal
You're on bb
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:19:37
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:33:12
now this is a fight i can get behind
Maybe if you'd come out of hiding
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 13 January 2016, 13:54:28
The reason is obviously that the average female is physically weaker than the average male..
However, does the rule change, if the female opponent in question is apparently physically larger / stronger..
So, more simply, is it ok to hit a girl that's "Bigger"/ Seemingly stronger than you are..
hrrmmmmmmmmmmm...........Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/70bff581.gif)
If she's stronger than you, do you really want to pick a fight or aggravate it?
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:26:24
What if Ronda Rousey hit you, then what?? Do we get a pass?What if I enjoy it? THEN WHAT
Then her name changes from Ronda Rousey to "Ronda Arouseme".Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSEtNsZ.gif)
ring could be used literally here wink wink wink
BUTTS
No C-ring jokes? :p
Post by: Michael on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:32:45
Post by: demik on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:45:36
What if she puts you in a tough situation? (http://i.imgur.com/JHumvr4.jpg)
more like a hard situation OuO
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:45:50
That said, by all means, men, defend yourselves, but of course don't hit anyone unless it's necessary. Physical abuse of men by women can and does happen.
Post by: patachu on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:52:03
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:54:43
does the same rules apply with, let's say... Sarah Palin or Anita Sarkezian?
Fascinating that you would group those two together.
Post by: Pdub on Thu, 14 January 2016, 20:49:30
Post by: demik on Thu, 14 January 2016, 20:57:00
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
yeah well explain that to the mothers of babies. like **** he started it so im ending it
Post by: Pdub on Thu, 14 January 2016, 20:59:43
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
yeah well explain that to the mothers of babies. like **** he started it so im ending it
That is quite understandable.
Post by: wockytocky on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:41:53
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
Exactly, I've always understood it as "Don't start fights with girls". If a girl throws the first punch though then I think it's fine to throw the second
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 24 January 2016, 03:52:54
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
yeah well explain that to the mothers of babies. like **** he started it so im ending it
Dropped my baby sister on her head when I was little, she grew up with a speech problem.......... Don't know if drop was involved but she is also heavily into Japanese stuff now so it must have been pretty bad
PS it is ok to hit your siblings, they deserve it
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 24 January 2016, 09:20:54
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
yeah well explain that to the mothers of babies. like **** he started it so im ending it
Dropped my baby sister on her head when I was little, she grew up with a speech problem.......... Don't know if drop was involved but she is also heavily into Japanese stuff now so it must have been pretty bad
PS it is ok to hit your siblings, they deserve it
what... um... how is that even related.. also.. dafuq, hwat?
Post by: Pdub on Sun, 24 January 2016, 09:25:37
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
yeah well explain that to the mothers of babies. like **** he started it so im ending it
Dropped my baby sister on her head when I was little, she grew up with a speech problem.......... Don't know if drop was involved but she is also heavily into Japanese stuff now so it must have been pretty bad
PS it is ok to hit your siblings, they deserve it
what... um... how is that even related.. also.. dafuq, hwat?
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 24 January 2016, 09:49:29
I think you can hit another person if they hit you. There are fragile people out there!
yeah well explain that to the mothers of babies. like **** he started it so im ending it
Dropped my baby sister on her head when I was little, she grew up with a speech problem.......... Don't know if drop was involved but she is also heavily into Japanese stuff now so it must have been pretty bad
PS it is ok to hit your siblings, they deserve it
what... um... how is that even related.. also.. dafuq, hwat?
Lel