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Title: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: VP on Tue, 26 January 2016, 10:35:55
Just I got an e-mail from Das Keyboard.
There are interesting news.
Das Keyboard Gaming line.
http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/x40/ (http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/x40/)
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: Fusion on Tue, 26 January 2016, 13:32:25
I wonder who manufactures their new "mustard tactile" switches and "olive linear" switches. Apparently they have 1.7mm travel distance (as opposed to 2mm?) pre-actuation. And about the same actuation force as browns, they're just quieter. Is it just a brown switch with o-ring built-in?
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: VP on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:16:34
Alpha-Zulu Gaming Switch Designed By Das Keyboard. Who is manufacturer? I don't find.
http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/switches/ (http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/switches/)
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: 1391406 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 15:54:18
Ugh

(http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/x40/images/division-zero-x40-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-banner3.png)
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: Homenubbie on Tue, 26 January 2016, 15:59:06
Gaymerz Special!
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: Hyde on Tue, 26 January 2016, 17:49:26
Das pulled a Corsair.

Didn't Corsair invest in some 6 figure gamer line campaign that backfired horribly and had to quickly change the logo?

Talk about money well wasted...

And this is coming from a Das Keyboard owner...
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: chyros on Tue, 26 January 2016, 18:05:08
Jeez. Looking at that, I can tell I'm really not missing out with having just vintage boards :p . What a ****ing monstrosity xD .
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: kekman on Tue, 26 January 2016, 18:29:47
made by gamurs for gamurs!!!!!!

tbh das keyboard has been looking less favourable from an enthusiasts view for a while. Clunky designs and ABS keycaps are a massive turn-off, especially at the price they retail at.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 19:13:31
Ehh, the appearance really isn't a big deal-- sure, it doesn't have a "minimalist" look, but not everyone is into that, anyway. It's not really to my preference, but I wouldn't say it was any worse for that reason.

The price, though, is harder to overlook. The spec and feature set seem competent, but at $150 mere competence doesn't cut it. Not when someone could spend in the $100ish range and get an RK with capacitive switches and RGB lighting, or a Team Wolf full-size plus a whole set of Gaterons to hot-swap in (also with RGB), or for a little bit more a Bloody B740A with fricken' optical switches and a waterproofing layer. No amount of empty talk about "quality" could make up for that degree of difference in price and spec. For that matter, even if the quality was outstanding, it wouldn't even matter, since that'd just mean you'd be stuck with something second-rate for longer.

I'm sure they'll sell some, thanks to being an easily available Western brand with a semi-decent reputation, but it's not about to go on my wishlist.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: 1391406 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 20:28:26
Ehh, the appearance really isn't a big deal-- sure, it doesn't have a "minimalist" look, but not everyone is into that, anyway. It's not really to my preference, but I wouldn't say it was any worse for that reason.

I like full sized keyboards. I have plenty of them and this thing is ugly, in my opinion. Yes, aesthetics is an important factor, in my opinion. Not the only one, but an important one.

Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:45:29
My eyes hurt now! What is that.. THING!?
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: Malarkey on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:30:56
With the LED's off it looks considerably better.  With that being said, for only 20 bucks more why not just go for the 4 Professional?
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: kekman on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:49:08
With the LED's off it looks considerably better.  With that being said, for only 20 bucks more why not just go for the 4 Professional?

more like why not go for a different company that offers PBT keycaps on their boards rather than the ****ty ABS on das keyboards
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: Lepidus on Mon, 01 February 2016, 19:02:03
Alpha-Zulu Gaming Switch Designed By Das Keyboard. Who is manufacturer? I don't find.
http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/switches/ (http://www.divisionzerogaming.com/switches/)

Greetech is the OEM.
More info here: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/article-14568-10.html

(http://image.pcwaishe.cn/data/attachment/forum/201601/04/175306lhhzhzq37zj0c0tj.jpg)

I wonder if their different lines of switches do actually feel different. Heard a lot of complaints when Das switched to greetech on their low-end boards, yet everybody seemed to like the KBT switches on MK Disco, also manufactured by greetech.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 February 2016, 19:25:36
Wtf guys..  that keyboard looks pretty good to me.. 


hahahaa.  understated.. good geometry.. no clutter..



Now,  what they aught to do to IMPROVE this keyboard..  is start by  CUTTING IT IN HALF...


Then put a cable between the two halves..


Wait wait wait.. NM,    everyone.. 


Buy ERGODOX
   (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_100_.gif)
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: MajorMajor on Mon, 01 February 2016, 21:35:31
I think it's good to have manufacturers experimenting with new switch designs, even if it's just a modified Greetech switch. I also think it's cool for them to experiment with the swapable aluminum tops.

At the end of the day, I think $150 is too much for a keyboard with Greetech switches though. I wish Das never moved away from Cherry MX, but I think it's a smart business move for them as the mainstream consumers don't care or know the difference with switch manufacturers.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 02 February 2016, 05:38:46
With the LED's off it looks considerably better.  With that being said, for only 20 bucks more why not just go for the 4 Professional?

more like why not go for a different company that offers PBT keycaps on their boards rather than the ****ty ABS on das keyboards

This so much.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: Homenubbie on Tue, 02 February 2016, 12:57:17
With the LED's off it looks considerably better.  With that being said, for only 20 bucks more why not just go for the 4 Professional?

more like why not go for a different company that offers PBT keycaps on their boards rather than the ****ty ABS on das keyboards

How many companies sell keyboards with PBT keys ?  Anyone other than Pok3r?

This so much.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: kekman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 17:06:05
With the LED's off it looks considerably better.  With that being said, for only 20 bucks more why not just go for the 4 Professional?

more like why not go for a different company that offers PBT keycaps on their boards rather than the ****ty ABS on das keyboards

How many companies sell keyboards with PBT keys ?  Anyone other than Pok3r?

This so much.

leopold, varmillo, topre, deck, ducky used to sell stock boards with their thick pbt sets, point is there are many keyboards with the same features (sometimes more) that offer better design and high quality stock keycaps at the same or even cheaper price
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: KRKS on Wed, 03 February 2016, 04:55:37
I can't even call it "Das Disappointment" because they drained all my positive feelings towards the brand already anyway.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: iLLucionist on Wed, 03 February 2016, 07:26:04
I can't even call it "Das Disappointment" because they drained all my positive feelings towards the brand already anyway.

I'd call it 'bait-and-switch'. The originals were not perfect, but they were ok (except for that wtf glossy case, but that might be just me). And then they increasingly strip away quality and increase marketing and try to lift on their "brand identity".

Feels a bit like Apple lately.. but that is probably another discussion on its own :)
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: 1391406 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:18:58
I can't even call it "Das Disappointment" because they drained all my positive feelings towards the brand already anyway.

Dasappointment.
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:20:54
I can't even call it "Das Disappointment" because they drained all my positive feelings towards the brand already anyway.

Dasappointment.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Das Keyboard new keyboard
Post by: DAVYtm on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:28:07
This is one ugly keyboard