Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:24:16
GB END ON 4th April, 2016
Base Kit
The Base kit comes in light gray. To add a modern touch, US-Int sublegends are pad-printed in lime green along with the darker green doubleshot legends. ISO, Winkeyless, basic 1800, Whitefox, and most other other alternate layouts are supported.
(http://i.imgur.com/bPBbyEv.png)
Modifiers Kit
The Mod kit comes with lime green modifiers and dark green accent keys. HHKB-specific legends are front pad-printed. This kit includes the iconic lime green CODE key. ISO, Winkeyless, basic 1800, basic Whitefox, and most other alternate layouts are supported.
(http://i.imgur.com/qER5dt2.png)
Outcasts Kit
The Outcasts kit adds 100-percent correct row compatibility for WhiteFox, FC660M, 1800, and other alternate 65- and 75-percent boards.
(http://i.imgur.com/98RjTpS.png)
Spacebars
2 spacebars per pack, 1x 6.25U and 1x7U
(http://i.imgur.com/qeaBPn6.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/woB2hYL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/pvJkU3L.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/woB2hYL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/pvJkU3L.png)
The MOQ are:
Base set - 150
Mod set - 150
Outcasts set - 100
Inspired by:
Inspired by the beautiful Royal Alpha typewriters
(http://i.imgur.com/rFYoSER.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yzkFh2l.jpg)
Colors (http://i.imgur.com/94CxFfr.jpg):
Alphas: N7 legends double-shot on 3K with AE pad-printed International sub-legends
Mods: CP legends double-shot on AE and few CP legends double-shot on N7
For EU buyers:
In the past two weeks I have been in discussion with GMK, MassDrop and few EU members and whilst I am trying for a better solution for EU customers, I'd like to clarify a few things. From my understanding, the gripe EU buyers have with MassDrop is the 30% DUTY+TAX they have to pay and the higher shipping costs. First thing first, we can't deny that bulk of the orders are from US, so a shipment from GMK is bound to go to the US. Now the difference in shipping cost of a EU proxy handling shipping vs MassDrop is minimal if any, because MassDrop get volume discount from USPS. Now regarding the 30%, GMK has informed me that if they were to ship within the EU, then they will have to put a 20% VAT on the base price (Which we are used to seeing from GMK). This leaves 10% price difference which is just about offset by the extra shipping costs GMK will charge for shipping part of the consignment to EU. I hope this brings things more into perspective that in the current state of things, EU buyers aren't really getting that bad a deal and would agree that extra efforts for a EU "warehouse"/proxy are really not worth it.
UPDATE:I have confirmed with multiple parties that when receiving keycaps from GMK in US, they pay little to nominal (~0.5%) in taxes/duties in EU. The shipping prices MassDrop gets for the international shipping is about the same as an individual would get while shipping within EU. The 10% difference of if the keycaps were shipped within EU vs from US is pretty much offset by the extra split shipping from GMK.
So, EU guys sorry, the 20%/30% taxes imposed by the government are to be blamed, so relax and buy from MassDrop.
Some excellent color comparison shots by nubbinator
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Ok, pics. I flipped them so you wouldn't be biased by already knowing the color and so you could get a closer approximation of the original color. I also feel the shadowing on the flipped caps gives you a better idea of the color. Colors may still be a little off, but I tried to be as accurate as possible.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4547.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4570.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4590.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4610.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4619.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4638.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4640.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4658.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4660.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4675.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4680.png)
Old Mockups
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Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:27:26
You might on to something here. I'll be keeping an eye on this buy. :thumb:
Post by: xiaodian317 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:28:01
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:29:50
MOZ! You're still alive!Quite alive, just been dormant, but the Pune KB team gave me a kick back into this hobby over the last month.
You might on to something here. I'll be keeping an eye on this buy. :thumb:
I think there are so many fans love the AE Green color set.Of course, it's a wonderful color! :)
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:38:15
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:49:09
GMK CCnG? Instant buy for me!I believe CCnG had the same color for the legends on the alphas and the mod base. This would not be the case here.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:49:35
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:52:21
Well, if you want to be color accurate, it should be grey, not beige/cream.
I would love grey. Feels like with Ivan's PBT and EnjoyPBT there is no shortage of green on beige/white right now. I also feel the pastel AE mods don't go well with the deep green N7 legends but that wouldn't stop me from joining. I'd just use them separately.
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:02:44
Well, if you want to be color accurate, it should be grey, not beige/cream.Nothing is set in stone, I've been debating with myself between L9 and 3K
Post by: Glenmael on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:04:30
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:05:02
Well, if you want to be color accurate, it should be grey, not beige/cream.Nothing is set in stone, I've been debating with myself between L9 and 3K
Have you considered U9?
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:06:16
so I you had tab as AE and then caps,shift ctrl etc as N7 with an AE back space it would match the original set more, no?
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:18:30
Well, if you want to be color accurate, it should be grey, not beige/cream.Nothing is set in stone, I've been debating with myself between L9 and 3K
3K is the closer color, L9 just looks off. 3K with N7 legends is probably the closest on the Alphas and AE with CP or 3K legends the closest for the mods.
You could also do a hybrid buy in line with some of the sets and do ABS mods with PBT alphas.
If we're going cream, I'd still rather see 3B get made first.
(http://i.imgur.com/izumRSy.png)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:31:22
Well, if you want to be color accurate, it should be grey, not beige/cream.Nothing is set in stone, I've been debating with myself between L9 and 3K
3K is the closer color, L9 just looks off. 3K with N7 legends is probably the closest on the Alphas and AE with CP or 3K legends the closest for the mods.
You could also do a hybrid buy in line with some of the sets and do ABS mods with PBT alphas.
Most likely would go with 3K then if that is what is closer to the original.
Regarding the hybrid buy, we could do one like the Bluegaloo, but my concern is over mixed materials, PBT for alphas and ABS for mods. Although that would be closer to most of the sets out there :))
so I you had tab as AE and then caps,shift ctrl etc as N7 with an AE back space it would match the original set more, no?It's an inspired set, not a reproduction ;P
But yes, if we go for a mods only set, then surely we could incorporate the three keys in N7.
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:36:15
Post by: rm-rf on Tue, 02 February 2016, 02:46:46
(http://i.imgur.com/dfDTtKc.jpg)
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 02 February 2016, 03:11:11
so I you had tab as AE and then caps,shift ctrl etc as N7 with an AE back space it would match the original set more, no?It's an inspired set, not a reproduction ;P
But yes, if we go for a mods only set, then surely we could incorporate the three keys in N7.
fair enough, I did have an original set of these caps and imo the coolest thing was the two tone mods on one side rather than all around, but thats just me :P
Post by: lolpes on Tue, 02 February 2016, 03:11:11
I just got my set a few weeks ago.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dfDTtKc.jpg)
Yes please! I have my set comming in as well :D
(http://i.imgur.com/JQs0wrX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yFc76GC.jpg)
Also, a sugestion, why not add some dark green mods? like enter, windows keys, esc, etc so get the full vibe of the Royal alpha typewritter:
(http://i.imgur.com/5a97EBL.jpg)
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 02 February 2016, 03:35:41
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 02 February 2016, 03:39:01
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 02 February 2016, 05:29:22
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 02 February 2016, 05:55:20
I think there are so many fans love the AE Green color set.
There is BUT it's the overall design that shall draw in those crowds, especially if you want to totally mimic the original AE Green Set.
You need careful design of these sets like the SKIDATA Set, making sure to make a direct copy but also adding vital extras for those who need them.
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:16:51
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I agree though that Grey might be a better choice, I think it would look nice with the Green on Grey alphas and Grey on Lime for mods.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:20:16
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:35:48
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:45:28
How do people get renders like those? I'd prefer lime and gray.Will be going with 3K for the alpha base and CP for legends on mods.
I'm starting to lean towards mods only. Maybe split the mods and alphas.
Edit: I just used the Triumph Adler mockup and edited it Photoshop. If you mean that particular style, GMK provides those.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 February 2016, 07:04:32
How do people get renders like those? I'd prefer lime and gray.Will be going with 3K for the alpha base and CP for legends on mods.
I'm starting to lean towards mods only. Maybe split the mods and alphas.
Edit: I just used the Triumph Adler mockup and edited it Photoshop. If you mean that particular style, GMK provides those.
Ah sweet, where do you get the colors/codes from too? How easy is it to get the renders? Simply just a email?
Post by: DukeMugen on Tue, 02 February 2016, 12:53:49
Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:04:02
I was hoping someone would come around w/ another TA set.
(http://i.imgur.com/zP0n7tv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MLtIDKs.jpg)
Post by: bazh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:21
Post by: romevi on Tue, 02 February 2016, 14:33:03
I wasn't a fan of CCoG until I saw it recently on Filco's blue board. That thing clutched at my eyeballs for minutes.
Post by: rm-rf on Tue, 02 February 2016, 14:49:34
i'm jealous of that set.
I have a keyset from a TA Royal Beta 9000D typewriter. It has brown on white legends (some are tripleshot w/ turqoise side print) and white on turquoise mods.
I was hoping someone would come around w/ another TA set.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/zP0n7tv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MLtIDKs.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:38:58
I have a keyset from a TA Royal Beta 9000D typewriter. It has brown on white legends (some are tripleshot w/ turqoise side print) and white on turquoise mods.
I was hoping someone would come around w/ another TA set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zP0n7tv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MLtIDKs.jpg)
I had a set like that in all ABS, but the stems were breaking left and right, so I tossed it. I still have the hybrid PBT/ABS set, but the all ABS set was cool.
Maybe N7 on U9 for the alphas? Either way, I'm interested.
I wasn't a fan of CCoG until I saw it recently on Filco's blue board. That thing clutched at my eyeballs for minutes.
N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:41:50
I'd definitely be in for some of these!!!
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:20:24
Post by: billnye on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:23:50
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:29:17
N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
I agree that 3K alphas look nicer with AE mods, but I think AE mods don't really go well with N7 legends in the first place. I'd rather have N7 on 3K/U9 for alphas and modifiers with a splash of C9 on AE for Enter and Esc. This would be more thematically consistent with the original colorway, IMHO.
I reluctantly submit that having inverted/high-contrast alphas vs mods seems to be more popular, which is always important for a GMK GB.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:30:24
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:42:01
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:43:42
N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
I agree that 3K alphas look nicer with AE mods, but I think AE mods don't really go well with N7 legends in the first place. I'd rather have N7 on 3K/U9 for alphas and modifiers with a splash of C9 on AE for Enter and Esc. This would be more thematically consistent with the original colorway, IMHO.
I reluctantly submit that having inverted/high-contrast alphas vs mods seems to be more popular, which is always important for a GMK GB.
I don't think anyone was asking for N7 on AE mods. The most accurate to OG is CP on AE, maybe a CP on N7 accent or two.
And since people are discussing the OG, I'm going off OG coloring as I own the set this is following and a GMK color ring. We don't have to try and emulate the OG, but the OG has dyesub legends close in color to N7 on the alphas with the cap being a warm grey between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K. I can take comparison shots tonight. U9 is nowhere near the color and, IMO, looks terrible with AE.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:46:22
N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
I agree that 3K alphas look nicer with AE mods, but I think AE mods don't really go well with N7 legends in the first place. I'd rather have N7 on 3K/U9 for alphas and modifiers with a splash of C9 on AE for Enter and Esc. This would be more thematically consistent with the original colorway, IMHO.
I reluctantly submit that having inverted/high-contrast alphas vs mods seems to be more popular, which is always important for a GMK GB.
I don't think anyone was asking for N7 on AE mods. The most accurate to OG is CP on AE, maybe a CP on N7 accent or two.
And since people are discussing the OG, I'm going off OG coloring as I own the set this is following and a GMK color ring. We don't have to try and emulate the OG, but the OG has dyesub legends close in color to N7 on the alphas with the cap being a warm grey between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K. I can take comparison shots tonight. U9 is nowhere near the color and, IMO, looks terrible with AE.
I would love to see pictures Nubbs!
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:53:36
N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
I agree that 3K alphas look nicer with AE mods, but I think AE mods don't really go well with N7 legends in the first place. I'd rather have N7 on 3K/U9 for alphas and modifiers with a splash of C9 on AE for Enter and Esc. This would be more thematically consistent with the original colorway, IMHO.
I reluctantly submit that having inverted/high-contrast alphas vs mods seems to be more popular, which is always important for a GMK GB.
I don't think anyone was asking for N7 on AE mods. The most accurate to OG is CP on AE, maybe a CP on N7 accent or two.
And since people are discussing the OG, I'm going off OG coloring as I own the set this is following and a GMK color ring. We don't have to try and emulate the OG, but the OG has dyesub legends close in color to N7 on the alphas with the cap being a warm grey between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K. I can take comparison shots tonight. U9 is nowhere near the color and, IMO, looks terrible with AE.
I'd love to see some comparison shots :) the real question is if this is going to be before or after the manly unicorn :3
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 02 February 2016, 19:39:18
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 19:43:22
MoreI'd love to see some comparison shots :) the real question is if this is going to be before or after the manly unicorn :3N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
I agree that 3K alphas look nicer with AE mods, but I think AE mods don't really go well with N7 legends in the first place. I'd rather have N7 on 3K/U9 for alphas and modifiers with a splash of C9 on AE for Enter and Esc. This would be more thematically consistent with the original colorway, IMHO.
I reluctantly submit that having inverted/high-contrast alphas vs mods seems to be more popular, which is always important for a GMK GB.
I don't think anyone was asking for N7 on AE mods. The most accurate to OG is CP on AE, maybe a CP on N7 accent or two.
And since people are discussing the OG, I'm going off OG coloring as I own the set this is following and a GMK color ring. We don't have to try and emulate the OG, but the OG has dyesub legends close in color to N7 on the alphas with the cap being a warm grey between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K. I can take comparison shots tonight. U9 is nowhere near the color and, IMO, looks terrible with AE.
I need to PM Bunny about Manly Unicorn again. Since he was wanting to run it through JTK, I think I'll stick with that since it will be cheaper and give us more compatibility options.
I'll probably regret saying this if it happens, but I'd be willing to be the US/NA distributor for this set if it doesn't go MD and someone else handles the money, I just don't want to collect the money and it appears MOZ doesn't want to either.
Doomed to fail unless a CODE key is included.
I think that's pretty much a given. An N7 and AE, of course.
Off to take pics now.
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:11:17
MoreI'd love to see some comparison shots :) the real question is if this is going to be before or after the manly unicorn :3N7 on 3K looks a lot better for alphas IMO. If you want U9, just get an OG Cherry set or Gaterons. Both TA Blue and green have a sexy warm grey midway between 3K and 2B, but closer to 3K that, IMO, looks nicer with AE.
I agree that 3K alphas look nicer with AE mods, but I think AE mods don't really go well with N7 legends in the first place. I'd rather have N7 on 3K/U9 for alphas and modifiers with a splash of C9 on AE for Enter and Esc. This would be more thematically consistent with the original colorway, IMHO.
I reluctantly submit that having inverted/high-contrast alphas vs mods seems to be more popular, which is always important for a GMK GB.
I don't think anyone was asking for N7 on AE mods. The most accurate to OG is CP on AE, maybe a CP on N7 accent or two.
And since people are discussing the OG, I'm going off OG coloring as I own the set this is following and a GMK color ring. We don't have to try and emulate the OG, but the OG has dyesub legends close in color to N7 on the alphas with the cap being a warm grey between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K. I can take comparison shots tonight. U9 is nowhere near the color and, IMO, looks terrible with AE.
I need to PM Bunny about Manly Unicorn again. Since he was wanting to run it through JTK, I think I'll stick with that since it will be cheaper and give us more compatibility options.
I'll probably regret saying this if it happens, but I'd be willing to be the US/NA distributor for this set if it doesn't go MD and someone else handles the money, I just don't want to collect the money and it appears MOZ doesn't want to either.
Can't wait to see the pictures! If any of this goes down after I graduate in May I would be happy to help in anyway I can! Even handling the money :D I really want to see this set get off the ground. I absolutely love the colorway.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:47:31
Alphas:
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Alphas:
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Post by: rm-rf on Tue, 02 February 2016, 21:32:25
Ok, pics. I flipped them so you wouldn't be biased by already knowing the color and so you could get a closer approximation of the original color. I also feel the shadowing on the flipped caps gives you a better idea of the color. Colors may still be a little off, but I tried to be as accurate as possible.MoreAlphas:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4547.png)MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4570.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4590.png)MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4610.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4619.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4638.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4640.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4658.png)
Alphas:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4660.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4675.png)MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/02/DSC_4680.png)
those are some nice shots!
Post by: renne on Tue, 02 February 2016, 21:36:38
Post by: romevi on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:08:53
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:39:14
U9 looks way off. L9 is good, as well as CP.
L9 has far too much yellow. 3K is still the closest, IMO, though it's really a color between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K.
The main reason I'm very vocally against L9 is because is it's the same color as the OG Cherry Alphas that are a dime a dozen. I have thin lasered PBT and GMK AE mods from EK on my keyboard at work and there's not much difference between that and L9 with N7 legends. 3K is a far less common color and looks very good and it makes sense to me to have something that will have a little more contrast and is less common while still looking good.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:44:38
U9 looks way off. L9 is good, as well as CP.
L9 has far too much yellow. 3K is still the closest, IMO, though it's really a color between 3K and 2B and closer to 3K.
The main reason I'm very vocally against L9 is because is it's the same color as the OG Cherry Alphas that are a dime a dozen. I have thin lasered PBT and GMK AE mods from EK on my keyboard at work and there's not much difference between that and L9 with N7 legends. 3K is a far less common color and looks very good and it makes sense to me to have something that will have a little more contrast and is less common while still looking good.
I am with Nubbs. I trust his opinion!
Post by: ileben on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:55:58
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:01:41
Also, I know this is primarily intended to be a TA green colored set, but I'll also throw out support for 3B in the interest of replicating CCnG. :thumb:
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:05:08
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:26:16
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/03/keyboard-layout1.png)
And Keyboard Layout Editor link with rough color values in if anyone wants to play with it. (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Esc&_x:1&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&_x:0.5&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&_x:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=PrtSc&=Scroll%20Lock&=Pause%0ABreak%3B&@_y:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=~%0A%60&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25%3B&=Insert&=Home&=PgUp&_x:0.25%3B&=Num%20Lock&=%2F%2F&=*&=-%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=7%0AHome&=8%0A%E2%86%91&=9%0APgUp&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Enter&_x:3.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=4%0A%E2%86%90&=5&=6%0A%E2%86%92%3B&@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Shift&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:1.25%3B&=%E2%86%91&_x:1.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=1%0AEnd&=2%0A%E2%86%93&=3%0APgDn&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23000000&a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_x:0.25%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:33:19
So, not 100% accurate (I couldn't use the spot tool to get a close enough color to what 3K really looks like), but here's a rough mockup with some of the ideas people were spitting out. It's N7 on 3K Alphas and CP on AE and N7 mods.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/03/keyboard-layout1.png)
And Keyboard Layout Editor link with rough color values in if anyone wants to play with it. (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Esc&_x:1&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&_x:0.5&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&_x:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=PrtSc&=Scroll%20Lock&=Pause%0ABreak%3B&@_y:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=~%0A%60&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25%3B&=Insert&=Home&=PgUp&_x:0.25%3B&=Num%20Lock&=%2F%2F&=*&=-%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=7%0AHome&=8%0A%E2%86%91&=9%0APgUp&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Enter&_x:3.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=4%0A%E2%86%90&=5&=6%0A%E2%86%92%3B&@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Shift&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:1.25%3B&=%E2%86%91&_x:1.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=1%0AEnd&=2%0A%E2%86%93&=3%0APgDn&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23000000&a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_x:0.25%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel)
This is great! Sign me up. Any chance on 1800 support?
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:35:07
So, not 100% accurate (I couldn't use the spot tool to get a close enough color to what 3K really looks like), but here's a rough mockup with some of the ideas people were spitting out. It's N7 on 3K Alphas and CP on AE and N7 mods.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/03/keyboard-layout1.png)
And Keyboard Layout Editor link with rough color values in if anyone wants to play with it. (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Esc&_x:1&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&_x:0.5&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&_x:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=PrtSc&=Scroll%20Lock&=Pause%0ABreak%3B&@_y:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=~%0A%60&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25%3B&=Insert&=Home&=PgUp&_x:0.25%3B&=Num%20Lock&=%2F%2F&=*&=-%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=7%0AHome&=8%0A%E2%86%91&=9%0APgUp&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Enter&_x:3.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=4%0A%E2%86%90&=5&=6%0A%E2%86%92%3B&@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Shift&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:1.25%3B&=%E2%86%91&_x:1.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=1%0AEnd&=2%0A%E2%86%93&=3%0APgDn&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23000000&a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_x:0.25%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel)
This is great! Sign me up. Any chance on 1800 support?
That's up to MOZ, I'm just throwing samples out there for people to get an idea.
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:36:09
So, not 100% accurate (I couldn't use the spot tool to get a close enough color to what 3K really looks like), but here's a rough mockup with some of the ideas people were spitting out. It's N7 on 3K Alphas and CP on AE and N7 mods.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/03/keyboard-layout1.png)
And Keyboard Layout Editor link with rough color values in if anyone wants to play with it. (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Esc&_x:1&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&_x:0.5&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&_x:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=PrtSc&=Scroll%20Lock&=Pause%0ABreak%3B&@_y:0.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=~%0A%60&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25%3B&=Insert&=Home&=PgUp&_x:0.25%3B&=Num%20Lock&=%2F%2F&=*&=-%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.25&c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=7%0AHome&=8%0A%E2%86%91&=9%0APgUp&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Enter&_x:3.5&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=4%0A%E2%86%90&=5&=6%0A%E2%86%92%3B&@_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.25%3B&=Shift&_c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:1.25%3B&=%E2%86%91&_x:1.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a%3B&=1%0AEnd&=2%0A%E2%86%93&=3%0APgDn&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_c=%23013b0c&t=%23000000&a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_c=%23329407&t=%23cfcac6&a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_x:0.25%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&c=%23d6d6ce&t=%2301360a&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel)
This is great! Sign me up. Any chance on 1800 support?
That's up to MOZ, I'm just throwing samples out there for people to get an idea.
Ah gotcha well I think it's an amazing idea! Great work nubbs
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 03 February 2016, 01:11:12
Currently I am leaning towards the TA group buy set as a base, most extra keys would be the same, with some other extras.
I am almost certain on using the colors numbs has mentioned, which is N7 on 3K for alphas and CP on AE for mods.
There will ofcourse be CODE keys, I'm think CP on AE and one in N7, not sure to have the deeper green as base or legend. I have emailed GMK for the available CODE legend keys.
1800, let's see, definitely will have a short right shift. Maybe a 1U "0 Ins" and a 1U "+". I don't think having any other keys for profile matching is going to be worth it.
I'd like to know what keys would you like to see in the N7 green.
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:49:16
(http://i.imgur.com/LeRnbI5.png)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:52:28
Quick mockup edit using Photoshop, with new suggested colors.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LeRnbI5.png)
Looking good :D!! And I'm glad to hear there will be a short shift
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:52:51
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:55:35
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:59:05
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:00:13
The alphas are light grey, ccng had cream alphas right? And the alphas lengends are of a darker green than the mods.
Yeah those are the details and you're right. But they're a pretty close match. Just something that came to mind. Not that it's a bad idea or set.
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:00:55
The alphas are light grey, ccng had cream alphas right? And the alphas lengends are of a darker green than the mods.
Also, may be a bit of overkill but include 3 colors of spacebars? light grey; lime; dark green?
I wouldn't mind this the grey and dark green since lime green spacebars have already been made
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:06:04
The alphas are light grey, ccng had cream alphas right? And the alphas lengends are of a darker green than the mods.
Also, may be a bit of overkill but include 3 colors of spacebars? light grey; lime; dark green?
I wouldn't mind this the grey and dark green since lime green spacebars have already been made
Will have to include 6 space bars (3 colors, 6.25U and 7U). :/
Let's see how this develops, maybe the mod set and alpha set will be different and we run it through MD for a better chance of hitting the numbers.
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:43:26
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:45:03
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:47:48
The alphas are light grey, ccng had cream alphas right? And the alphas lengends are of a darker green than the mods.
Also, may be a bit of overkill but include 3 colors of spacebars? light grey; lime; dark green?
I wouldn't mind this the grey and dark green since lime green spacebars have already been made
Will have to include 6 space bars (3 colors, 6.25U and 7U). :/
Let's see how this develops, maybe the mod set and alpha set will be different and we run it through MD for a better chance of hitting the numbers.
Yeah it's a bit much, hence why i said it might be a good idea to drop the lime spacebars(already around)
If you do a separate pack for the alphas then it might be a good idea to print some sublegends in lime green?
(http://i.imgur.com/f3ixhAj.jpg)
Post by: ba7777 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:58:29
IMHO it would be more like the alpha 610 and more eye candy this way.
I don't mean the green mod is not good, but it is just too intensive for me after staring at it for 2-3 minutes.
By the way, if the Irish legends could be include that would be perfect! Maybe pad print?
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:40:32
How about make the whole green on white set then put a splash of green on the esc key or other two or three keys?
IMHO it would be more like the alpha 610 and more eye candy this way.
I don't mean the green mod is not good, but it is just too intensive for me after staring at it for 2-3 minutes.
By the way, if the Irish legends could be include that would be perfect! Maybe pad print?
Maybe a complete N7 on 3K set and a separate pack for AE mods? I know I'd buy one full set and 2 AE mod packs.
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:45:47
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:59:20
How about make the whole green on white set then put a splash of green on the esc key or other two or three keys?
IMHO it would be more like the alpha 610 and more eye candy this way.
I don't mean the green mod is not good, but it is just too intensive for me after staring at it for 2-3 minutes.
By the way, if the Irish legends could be include that would be perfect! Maybe pad print?
Maybe a complete N7 on 3K set and a separate pack for AE mods? I know I'd buy one full set and 2 AE mod packs.
I though of that and felt it would be the best way forward. Full N7 on 3K 104+ISO+Tsanga and a mod pack like Bluegaloo, mostly CP on AE with a few CP on N7 mods thrown in.
Regarding the Irish, since it does already exist in dyesub form I'm not sure how much interest it will gather. The Irish legends will have to be pad printed like the Cyrillic set that Originative did, primary legends double-shot, secondary pad-printed. If we go that route, I think AE (Lime) colored Irish legends would be best. In all honesty, initially I had thought of having the Irish legends too, but thought due to the existence of the dyesubs, that idea would get shot down, which might still be the case :))
The advantage with all of this would be that those that already have the dyesubs will have a nice mod set to go with them, those that don't can get the GMK set.
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:04:35
The only thing they have now is r1 "Code"
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:08:49
I thought it was already discussed before that GMK lost the molds for the r4 CODE keys since it was brought up in billnye's thread.
The only thing they have now is r1 "Code"
Wasn't aware of that. However it does look like they have started to provide custom legends, understandably pricier.
Post by: William_S_Jones on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:33:12
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 03 February 2016, 13:03:58
Quick mockup edit using Photoshop, with new suggested colors.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LeRnbI5.png)
I need this! Hopefully with partial 1800 support at the minimum.
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 03 February 2016, 13:11:18
This is pretty much CCnG (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.msg1078891#msg1078891) right? The mods are a bit brighter but the concept has definitely been executed before.
That picture looks very familiar :D
Post by: ileben on Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:26:22
How about make the whole green on white set then put a splash of green on the esc key or other two or three keys?
IMHO it would be more like the alpha 610 and more eye candy this way.
I don't mean the green mod is not good, but it is just too intensive for me after staring at it for 2-3 minutes.
By the way, if the Irish legends could be include that would be perfect! Maybe pad print?
Maybe a complete N7 on 3K set and a separate pack for AE mods? I know I'd buy one full set and 2 AE mod packs.
I though of that and felt it would be the best way forward. Full N7 on 3K 104+ISO+Tsanga and a mod pack like Bluegaloo, mostly CP on AE with a few CP on N7 mods thrown in.
Yes I'd love having an option for full green/dark green mods or grey mods, so then I could put in just as much green as I want and on the keys that I want. Kind of what is commonly done with splashing red/blue mods over dark grey in Round 5/6 SA caps.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:08:40
I have no idea why this set hasn't been done yet. This is what I'm talking about:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IfDgWC0.png)
OH SWEET GEEZUS this key-set has to be done SOON.
The Grey and Green go together like mayonnaise and spit.
Please make this happen for 2016 because I know this will take off faster than a Dingo with an Itchy Arse .
Post by: romevi on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:10:05
I have no idea why this set hasn't been done yet. This is what I'm talking about:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IfDgWC0.png)
OH SWEET GEEZUS this key-set has to be done SOON.
The Grey and Green go together like mayonnaise and spit ;) .
Please make this happen for 2016 because I know this will take off faster than a Dingo with an Itchy Arse :thumb: .
And a baby? Does the dingo have a baby?
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:14:56
And a baby? Does the dingo have a baby?
Been proven false but they like blaming innocent animals for their filthy crimes, nothing new there.
Post by: romevi on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:16:14
And a baby? Does the dingo have a baby?
Been proven false but they like blaming innocent animals for their filthy crimes, nothing new there.
DID A DINGO EAT YOUR BABY?
Post by: mcwhirr on Thu, 04 February 2016, 02:43:43
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 04 February 2016, 07:40:08
Post by: priyadi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 11:23:27
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 11:27:19
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 11:36:46
Like moss. Bright, vibrant, raw.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 04 February 2016, 11:45:58
raw.
I'm down.
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 04 February 2016, 12:09:41
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 12:12:00
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce on the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Fantastisch!
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 04 February 2016, 12:21:29
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce on the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.Oooo! That's exciting! :)
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 12:59:17
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
That sounds fantastic!!! So when does it start :p?
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 04 February 2016, 13:06:17
No kidding. I'm definitely down for a set.Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
That sounds fantastic!!! So when does it start :p?
Post by: Dee1 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:41:19
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:51:46
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 04 February 2016, 15:30:39
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
That IS great news! ;D
Are the sublegends on top or on the front? I worry if they're on top they will fade over time, although with GMK's clear coating it might be many years before any fading is even visible. Personally I think top looks better than front so it's kind of a win/win for me.
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 04 February 2016, 15:34:35
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Wow those are some amazing news!!
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 04 February 2016, 16:43:05
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Wow those are some amazing news!!
Can't wait
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:02:29
Definitely interested especially after seeing lolpes' board.
Post by: kokokoy on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:08:10
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Wow! Great news indeed!
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 00:43:11
They don't have a bottom row CODE key
what? they don't have R4 code key? does this mean it is impossible for other GMK sets (like SKIDATA+) to get R4 CODE keys until the mould is produced?
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 February 2016, 00:51:16
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 00:54:52
Skidata+ has a left-middle aligned "Code" key. This set would have the centre-top aligned "CODE" key.
oh, I see. thanks for the heads up.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 05 February 2016, 00:56:47
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 February 2016, 01:32:40
There will be a mod set, very similar to the Bluegaloo, in CP legends on AE. There will also be some CP on N7 keys, most likely spacebars, Esc, CODE and the 3 Enter keys.
I'm all ears on layouts, colors, and specific N7 keys you'd like in the mod set. Open to any and all other suggestions as well.
I'm thinking of launching the GB on 19-04 (19 April) as 1904 is the year Royal Typewriter Company was founded.
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 05 February 2016, 01:37:43
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 February 2016, 01:40:48
I've also started discussion with some parties over PBT dyesubs, and reproducing the Irish set with Gateron. Their 117 key set goes for about 75 USA. However it doesn't have ISO support.
Post by: 64rky on Fri, 05 February 2016, 05:52:22
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 06:43:19
The win key will be replaced with brand the new legend "CODE" keys, I'm going to try this, both for the 1U and 1.25U keys.
CODE keys in 1.25x R4 for win key replacement?
Congratulations! This is the world first ever GMK set with vendor neutral super key, that is achievable on standard layout, without resorting to blanks and without using keyboards with 1.5x modifiers!
Post by: romevi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 08:36:48
You could get the mods only.
I've also started discussion with some parties over PBT dyesubs, and reproducing the Irish set with Gateron. Their 117 key set goes for about 75 USA. However it doesn't have ISO support.
Regarding the Irish set, would it be similar to Ivan's by Vortex? Why go with Gateron if Vortex already made them?
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:10:14
Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):
(http://i.imgur.com/rpWefhR.png)
Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):
(http://i.imgur.com/qK1URip.png)
All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:20:42
So, here is what it looks like right now:
Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tYBPqfT.png)
Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aLo6V9H.png)
All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.
I squirted a little...
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:29:52
2) I assume the numpad render is just incomplete at this time?
3) Should the 1u "0" sublegend be AE?
4) Aesthetically having the position of "CODE" be similar to Control and Alt might be better.
5) "LOCK" is awesome and true to the original...do they have molds for that though? If they do, should we consider getting the original "SHIFT", "RETURN", etc?
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Also, I'd be willing to pay more for 1800 support. I'm getting into this regardless.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:14:59
So, here is what it looks like right now:
Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rpWefhR.png)
Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qK1URip.png)
All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.
It all depends on price for me as to what I get. I would also prefer 1800 support though.
If there is 1800 support I would pay more obviously.
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:16:05
2) I assume the numpad render is just incomplete at this time?
3) Should the 1u "0" sublegend be AE?
4) Aesthetically having the position of "CODE" be similar to Control and Alt might be better.
5) "LOCK" is awesome and true to the original...do they have molds for that though? If they do, should we consider getting the original "SHIFT", "RETURN", etc?
6) Also, I'd be willing to pay more for 1800 support. I'm getting into this regardless.
1) I got the idea from billnye's Bluegaloo GB, where he used front pad-printed backspace legend on the 1.5U R2 key.
2) and 3) There was an issue with the render export, fixed and updated post.
4) I agree, it's just I'm confused between the original style or something that is more in-sync with the set.
5) They do have the legend, along with some others, like TAB, SHIFT (2.25U only). I'm still waiting on the full list from GMK of all upercase mods available.
6) 1800 is tricky, because to provide full support, I'd need to include 5 keys in base set as well as 5 in the mod pack.
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:27:35
I can finally buy a code key. It even comes with a free set of keycaps!
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:42:31
[SNIP]
1) I got the idea from billnye's Bluegaloo GB, where he used front pad-printed backspace legend on the 1.5U R2 key.
Yes, that was my idea ;D
Also, some pictures of dye subs from a Royal Alpha 110 on my Metal Dragon. Sorry I don't have access to good lighting at the moment... :-[ Hopefully this adds hype instead of detracting from it.
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Post by: appleonama on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:13:59
just bought someones of ebay
Post by: switchnollie on Fri, 05 February 2016, 19:01:38
So, here is what it looks like right now:
Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rpWefhR.png)
Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qK1URip.png)
All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.
This is great, even more interested after seeing this :thumb:
Post by: weifanwang on Sat, 06 February 2016, 10:30:29
Post by: xondat on Sat, 06 February 2016, 12:22:33
So, here is what it looks like right now:
Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rpWefhR.png)
Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qK1URip.png)
All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.
Ooh yes, looks pleasing.
Post by: priyadi on Sat, 06 February 2016, 13:22:26
What about an optional kit for 65%? For whitefox, this would require: R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R3 blank, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl, R1 blank, and R2 1½U backspace. For FC660M this require an additional R4 2¼U shift.
So, here is what it looks like right now:
Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rpWefhR.png)
Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qK1URip.png)
All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 07 February 2016, 02:02:48
What about an optional kit for 65%? For whitefox, this would require: R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R3 blank, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl, R1 blank, and R2 1½U backspace. For FC660M this require an additional R4 2¼U shift.
I understand the requirement for the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl; but why the R1 Blank and R3 Blank? The 1½U \| has sublegend for backspace.
In anycase, I'm thinking about including an "Outcasts" kit, providing full support for the 1800, FC660M, 65% and other boards. Better chance of tipping than individual kits.
Don't want to add any other kits to the two main kits, if anything, I'd liek to reduce the number of keys if possible.
Post by: priyadi on Sun, 07 February 2016, 05:19:43
I understand the requirement for the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl; but why the R1 Blank and R3 Blank? The 1½U \| has sublegend for backspace.
I didn't notice the backspace sublegend. sorry about that.
The blanks are intended for the true fox and jack of all trades layout. I imagine true fox users could easily get away without an R1 blank (plenty of R1 U1s to use). but for jack of all trades users, the only remaining R3 U1s to be used are KP 4, 5, 6 and ~#, which can look out of place.
In anycase, I'm thinking about including an "Outcasts" kit, providing full support for the 1800, FC660M, 65% and other boards. Better chance of tipping than individual kits.
Don't want to add any other kits to the two main kits, if anything, I'd liek to reduce the number of keys if possible.
I agree
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 07 February 2016, 07:46:44
R1 1U Del- 1800
R1 1U End - 1800
R1 1U PgDn - 1800
R2 1U - - 1800
R3 1U + - 1800
R3 1U PgUp - WhiteFox
R3 1U Blank/Generic legend - WhiteFox
R4 1U PgDn - WhiteFox
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Menu - 1800
R4 2.25U Shift - FC660M
R4 6U Space - FC660M
Let me know if I need to add keys for any other uncommon layout.
Post by: 64rky on Sun, 07 February 2016, 09:21:47
Keys for Outcasts kit:
R1 Del- 1800
R1 End - 1800
R1 PgDn - 1800
R2 - - 1800
R3 + - 1800
R3 PgUp - WhiteFox
R3 Blank/Generic legend - WhiteFox
R4 PgDn - WhiteFox
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Menu - 1800
R4 2.25U Shift - FC660M
R4 Space - FC660M
Let me know if I need to add keys for any other uncommon layout.
Awesome! I'll defo be in on this.
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:02:08
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 07 February 2016, 11:37:34
Should I go for CP on AE only for the Outcasts pack or CP on AE AND N7 on 3K?
I'd say just CP on AE.
Post by: weifanwang on Sun, 07 February 2016, 22:36:17
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 07 February 2016, 22:43:16
As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.
As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.
Post by: weifanwang on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:04:14
I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.good idea !
As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.
As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.
Post by: weifanwang on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:06:07
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:08:46
I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.
As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.
As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.
Have you seen the latest mockups? I should update the OP as well.
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:13:29
I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.
As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.
As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.
Have you seen the latest mockups? I should update the OP as well.
Yeah just reviewed it actually. 3k is also good as well. Have you heard back from GMK about any possible pricing? I think it might be easier to just go with a few accent keys rather than a whole second mod group. It might be hard to hit MOQ..
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 08 February 2016, 03:02:44
Yeah just reviewed it actually. 3k is also good as well. Have you heard back from GMK about any possible pricing? I think it might be easier to just go with a few accent keys rather than a whole second mod group. It might be hard to hit MOQ.
Based on the success of Bluegaloo mod set, and currently existing Irish sets and the recent EnjoyPBT Green set I'm hopeful that we would hit the MOQ.
Post by: DukeMugen on Mon, 08 February 2016, 03:41:09
We will! Count me in :)Yeah just reviewed it actually. 3k is also good as well. Have you heard back from GMK about any possible pricing? I think it might be easier to just go with a few accent keys rather than a whole second mod group. It might be hard to hit MOQ.
Based on the success of Bluegaloo mod set, and currently existing Irish sets and the recent EnjoyPBT Green set I'm hopeful that we would hit the MOQ.
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 08 February 2016, 04:55:45
Post by: bazh on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:44:39
would be perfect if including the backspace 1.5x D-profile key with the back x arrow legend :thumb:
besides I dont think the 1.25 CODE key looks very good, or the idea of replacing the Win keys, they should stand alone as 1x extra key IMO, it'd be best we could use them replacing the 'Fn' key though. Also maybe we should consider the capital legend for CTRL too
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:35:31
Should I go for CP on AE only for the Outcasts pack or CP on AE AND N7 on 3K?
I feel if you only went with one it should be N7 on 3K since that's the base colorway and kind of the identity of the set.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:42:25
Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.
The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too. :)
Great news. I'll be in for a set.
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 08 February 2016, 10:12:38
would be perfect if including the backspace 1.5x D-profile key with the back x arrow legend :thumb:
besides I dont think the 1.25 CODE key looks very good, or the idea of replacing the Win keys, they should stand alone as 1x extra key IMO, it'd be best we could use them replacing the 'Fn' key though. Also maybe we should consider the capital legend for CTRL too
The 1.5U backspace will have the arrow and x legend as a front print on the AE mod and AE sublegend on the the 3K.
I think the reason the CODE key doesn't look good on the 1.25U is because it is top aligned and to be honest the more I look at it, the more I think we should go for middle aligned CODE key, both for the 1U and 1.25U. I'm waiting to hear from GMK on available uppercase mods.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 08 February 2016, 10:27:52
Cherry infact have done 1.25x Code key, but it's not like the 1x one that more common known but have a 'box' surrounded legend.
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 08 February 2016, 11:33:08
Yeah I more of buy the idea of CODE key as an 'exotic' key like what we usually do with the Ecs, so I'm still with the suggests that we do normal winkey and 1 CODE key. Changing the alignment to the middle is just ruin the whole reason we redo it IMO :(
Cherry infact have done 1.25x Code key, but it's not like the 1x one that more common known but have a 'box' surrounded legend.
I'd like to see the 1.25U key you mentioned.
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 08 February 2016, 11:33:29
I'd like to know from Ergodox/Plank users, are they interested in a blank kit? I'm thinking GMK, but MOQ is going to be a pain. We could also try color matching with SP ABS (VAT and VV look close), just a random thought.
I have an ergodox coming in a couple months. So, yeah, count me interested. I just don't think the market is there for GMK.
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 08 February 2016, 12:11:19
besides I dont think the 1.25 CODE key looks very good, or the idea of replacing the Win keys, they should stand alone as 1x extra key IMO, it'd be best we could use them replacing the 'Fn' key though. Also maybe we should consider the capital legend for CTRL too
I disagree. I wholeheartedly disagree.
I'm OK with bundling win keys if people are really into that sort of thing. But please don't take the ability to use CODE keys as vendor neutral win key replacement.
Before this group buy, it is almost impossible to have GMK set with vendor neutral win legends. I'm still in the market for those elusive dark grey 1¼U blanks, which should be plenty but nobody seems want to part with. And I'm in the process of building a 60% with 1½U modifiers, specifically so I can put a SKIDATA+ on it with vendor neutral win keys when the caps finally arrives. It would be nice if this is the first GMK set that I don't have to do either only to have vendor neutral win legends.
Post by: Tuntematon on Mon, 08 February 2016, 16:22:46
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:09:48
Post by: romevi on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:10:35
Wait, the base color is cream? It looks just white or grey to me.
GMK renders are almost always not true to life.
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:50:18
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:52:59
Those clacks that were on eBay (Boogey Board) would be cool on this set.
Don't remind me :'(
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 08 February 2016, 18:18:48
Wait, the base color is cream? It looks just white or grey to me.
GMK renders are almost always not true to life.
So 3K is cream, not gray?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 08 February 2016, 18:23:11
Wait, the base color is cream? It looks just white or grey to me.
GMK renders are almost always not true to life.
So 3K is cream, not gray?
Nope it is a light grey. Just slightly lighter than the original color.
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 08 February 2016, 22:14:37
Post by: lolpes on Tue, 09 February 2016, 02:47:45
"[IC] GMK Royal Alpha Typewriter inspired set (Lime, Green and Cream)"
Post by: bazh on Tue, 09 February 2016, 03:58:10
Yeah I more of buy the idea of CODE key as an 'exotic' key like what we usually do with the Ecs, so I'm still with the suggests that we do normal winkey and 1 CODE key. Changing the alignment to the middle is just ruin the whole reason we redo it IMO :(
Cherry infact have done 1.25x Code key, but it's not like the 1x one that more common known but have a 'box' surrounded legend.
I'd like to see the 1.25U key you mentioned.
It's actually 1.5x, my mistake
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7256/13421020863_789cbb82fc_b.jpg)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 09 February 2016, 06:15:35
I think people get the idea that 3k is cream because the tread title has cream as one of the main colors:
"[IC] GMK Royal Alpha Typewriter inspired set (Lime, Green and Cream)"
LOL, I forgot to change the title.
Post by: lolpes on Tue, 09 February 2016, 06:26:06
Yeah I more of buy the idea of CODE key as an 'exotic' key like what we usually do with the Ecs, so I'm still with the suggests that we do normal winkey and 1 CODE key. Changing the alignment to the middle is just ruin the whole reason we redo it IMO :(
Cherry infact have done 1.25x Code key, but it's not like the 1x one that more common known but have a 'box' surrounded legend.
I'd like to see the 1.25U key you mentioned.
It's actually 1.5x, my mistakeShow Image(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7256/13421020863_789cbb82fc_b.jpg)
there is also 1.25 but it is not a standard profile :/
(http://i.imgur.com/OkExxIb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/r9ErOXw.jpg)
Pardon the OEM shift keycap, this is from when I started the hobby and some keycaps where missing xD
Post by: bazh on Tue, 09 February 2016, 06:27:32
Post by: lolpes on Tue, 09 February 2016, 06:31:35
The 1.5u code keycap also exists in some different designs:
(http://i.imgur.com/I2m0GlP.jpg)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 09 February 2016, 08:03:11
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 09 February 2016, 11:37:25
Mmm, the CODE key looks good in every size.
+1 I would rather have Code keys instead of win8 keys :p
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 09 February 2016, 11:39:21
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 09 February 2016, 11:54:14
CODE
Oops. That's what I meant ;D
Post by: romevi on Tue, 09 February 2016, 12:15:42
Sorry for the newbish question.
Post by: priyadi on Tue, 09 February 2016, 12:37:13
Enlighten me: Why are people so obsessed over the CODE key? I've seen it on other sets and never wondered why it was so important.
Sorry for the newbish question.
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 09 February 2016, 12:54:29
Enlighten me: Why are people so obsessed over the CODE key? I've seen it on other sets and never wondered why it was so important.
Sorry for the newbish question.
You're on GH, not the best place to look for logic. :p
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 09 February 2016, 13:44:22
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 09 February 2016, 13:46:41
Mmm, the CODE key looks good in every size.
+1 I would rather have Code keys instead of win8 keys :p
The windows key should be thrown out of the window. I associate that symbols with the frustrating hours spent fixing the windows os mess.
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 09 February 2016, 13:49:19
The way it currently stands, I'm looking at a base set of about 116 key caps, similar to the TA set, all keys N7 legends double shot on 3K, with pad printed and coated AE Intl sublegends top printed, much in the same way as Ivan's Irish dyesub set. The win key will be replaced with brand the new legend "CODE" keys, I'm going to try this, both for the 1U and 1.25U keys.
There will be a mod set, very similar to the Bluegaloo, in CP legends on AE. There will also be some CP on N7 keys, most likely spacebars, Esc, CODE and the 3 Enter keys.
I'm all ears on layouts, colors, and specific N7 keys you'd like in the mod set. Open to any and all other suggestions as well.
I'm thinking of launching the GB on 19-04 (19 April) as 1904 is the year Royal Typewriter Company was founded.
Start it the next week and stop taking orders on 19 04.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 09 February 2016, 13:54:40
The way it currently stands, I'm looking at a base set of about 116 key caps, similar to the TA set, all keys N7 legends double shot on 3K, with pad printed and coated AE Intl sublegends top printed, much in the same way as Ivan's Irish dyesub set. The win key will be replaced with brand the new legend "CODE" keys, I'm going to try this, both for the 1U and 1.25U keys.
There will be a mod set, very similar to the Bluegaloo, in CP legends on AE. There will also be some CP on N7 keys, most likely spacebars, Esc, CODE and the 3 Enter keys.
I'm all ears on layouts, colors, and specific N7 keys you'd like in the mod set. Open to any and all other suggestions as well.
I'm thinking of launching the GB on 19-04 (19 April) as 1904 is the year Royal Typewriter Company was founded.
Start it the next week and stop taking orders on 19 04.
lol Silly Europeans; there's no such month as the nineteenth!
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 09 February 2016, 15:44:43
The way it currently stands, I'm looking at a base set of about 116 key caps, similar to the TA set, all keys N7 legends double shot on 3K, with pad printed and coated AE Intl sublegends top printed, much in the same way as Ivan's Irish dyesub set. The win key will be replaced with brand the new legend "CODE" keys, I'm going to try this, both for the 1U and 1.25U keys.I'm all for this, my birthday's April 19 :D
There will be a mod set, very similar to the Bluegaloo, in CP legends on AE. There will also be some CP on N7 keys, most likely spacebars, Esc, CODE and the 3 Enter keys.
I'm all ears on layouts, colors, and specific N7 keys you'd like in the mod set. Open to any and all other suggestions as well.
I'm thinking of launching the GB on 19-04 (19 April) as 1904 is the year Royal Typewriter Company was founded.
Post by: bazh on Wed, 10 February 2016, 05:49:32
Enlighten me: Why are people so obsessed over the CODE key? I've seen it on other sets and never wondered why it was so important.
Sorry for the newbish question.
the only reason why one key is admired is because it looks good :P
(http://i.imgur.com/GX9202u.jpg)
Post by: weifanwang on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:38:56
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 11 February 2016, 04:14:01
when can start this group ?!
So keen to spend money :p
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:40:05
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 February 2016, 12:46:49
Waiting to hear from GMK on legends to finalize the design, then onto distribution channel.
Define distribution channel?
I'm dumb but excited.
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 11 February 2016, 12:58:22
Post by: romevi on Thu, 11 February 2016, 12:59:48
Waiting to hear from GMK on legends to finalize the design, then onto distribution channel.
Define distribution channel?
I'm dumb but excited.
Probably how he plans on doing the GB. E.G., Massdrop, geekhack, etc.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 February 2016, 13:34:10
Waiting to hear from GMK on legends to finalize the design, then onto distribution channel.
Define distribution channel?
I'm dumb but excited.
Probably how he plans on doing the GB. E.G., Massdrop, geekhack, etc.
Ah thought so, thanks for clarifying ^-^
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 12 February 2016, 08:32:46
(http://i.imgur.com/L6sKE9g.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7VsTyvc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JTSlmOj.jpg)
Post by: simonyunhe on Fri, 12 February 2016, 08:34:12
Today I received my dyesub royal alpha set and tried it on my 60%, hope you guys like it ;) A very possible preview of this keyset :DLooks great and more into this theme!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L6sKE9g.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7VsTyvc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTSlmOj.jpg)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 12 February 2016, 11:42:38
Today I received my dyesub royal alpha set and tried it on my 60%, hope you guys like it ;) A very possible preview of this keyset :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/L6sKE9g.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7VsTyvc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTSlmOj.jpg)
#hype Soon you'll have a correct bottom row :D
That backspace is bothersome to me though.
Regarding developments, I am in discussion with GMK on the possible uppercase mods. They are testing out some techniques, which if successful should reduce cost for custom legends if needed, although I will push for as low price as possible.
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 12 February 2016, 11:46:53
Today I received my dyesub royal alpha set and tried it on my 60%, hope you guys like it ;) A very possible preview of this keyset :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/L6sKE9g.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7VsTyvc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTSlmOj.jpg)
#hype Soon you'll have a correct bottom row :D
That backspace is bothersome to me though.
Regarding developments, I am in discussion with GMK on the possible uppercase mods. They are testing out some techniques, which if successful should reduce cost for custom legends if needed, although I will push for as low price as possible.
Yeah I don't have any 2u keycap with green, and the other is hhkb style backspace :/ The GMK mod kit will correct it tough #hype!!
And here is more normal bottom row :p
(http://i.imgur.com/RIWzRGU.jpg)
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Sat, 13 February 2016, 07:15:25
Post by: Jolikki on Sat, 13 February 2016, 08:07:12
Looking forward to see this set produced :)
Post by: lolpes on Sat, 13 February 2016, 10:17:15
F row and numpad mod caps are from a Dyesub cherry set, and the number caps in the numpad are from another royal alpha set, but doubleshot, and a bit yellowed :/
(http://i.imgur.com/WqpHewe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MB73d4Q.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RUzeykL.jpg)
Here I changed the number caps on the numpad to dysub ones again :)
(http://i.imgur.com/cY9nlzR.jpg)
And with turquoise Leds :p
(http://i.imgur.com/pbO0Bie.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7Cxv1Zc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MA4qlS7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/i6eiRUx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/izebUKb.jpg)
Post by: PK on Sat, 13 February 2016, 18:09:46
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Sat, 13 February 2016, 18:14:58
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 13 February 2016, 18:17:10
Yep, definitely in on this one if it happens. I've been waiting to get in on a GMK buy and this one is definitely the leader. Love that green is making a greater presence in sets lately :thumb:Now if only more board's could have some green on them.
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Sat, 13 February 2016, 18:20:53
Couldn't agree more. Although I do love a subtle bright color on a board instead overwhelming the eyes with BAM POW BRIGHT COLORS!!! I think that's why I like this set so much, having the green alphas on grey looks amazing then adding the lime color accents :italianchefMUAH: perfecto!Yep, definitely in on this one if it happens. I've been waiting to get in on a GMK buy and this one is definitely the leader. Love that green is making a greater presence in sets lately :thumb:Now if only more board's could have some green on them.
Post by: bazh on Sun, 14 February 2016, 09:06:32
Post by: lolpes on Sun, 14 February 2016, 09:19:20
Here you go, and they are different! O.o Is it possible that yellowing occurred and the keys turned to another shade of green?
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 14 February 2016, 10:37:33
Post by: lolpes on Sun, 14 February 2016, 11:11:28
Post by: bazh on Sun, 14 February 2016, 11:35:22
I don't think it's the result of the aging process (yellowing) though but I agree with what you said that the difference is very little, well if it's too complicated to go after the original color then the new color is fine too :D
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 14 February 2016, 14:30:41
Post by: lolpes on Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:49:38
Maybe I did wrong by photographing the sides so close to each other, the finish reflects the other key, thus it appears that the sides have the same color, I will take more pictures tomorrow for a better comparison.
I don't think this means we should mimic the original color if it is different, since it is so barely noticeable, and that little difference could increase the MOQ due to the custom color :(
Post by: weifanwang on Mon, 15 February 2016, 15:25:43
Post by: priyadi on Tue, 16 February 2016, 03:05:04
Post by: bazh on Tue, 16 February 2016, 04:09:32
Post by: priyadi on Tue, 16 February 2016, 04:45:29
not sure about the stab mount of the Leopolds' but high chance GMK still have the mold, 6x spacebar is quite popular among new Cherry keyboards on the winkey version of 1800 or on 11900 boards
Looks like I was wrong about this. FC660M uses 6.25U but with non standard mount. Either way, I don't see how this can be fully supported with GMK.
Post by: simonyunhe on Tue, 16 February 2016, 05:04:41
Good news is if you recently bought the FC660M that made in Taiwan you will end up getting the 'standard' bottom mount.not sure about the stab mount of the Leopolds' but high chance GMK still have the mold, 6x spacebar is quite popular among new Cherry keyboards on the winkey version of 1800 or on 11900 boards
Looks like I was wrong about this. FC660M uses 6.25U but with non standard mount. Either way, I don't see how this can be fully supported with GMK.
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 16 February 2016, 13:51:48
I still have no lead with Massdrop, if someone can assist, please do.
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 16 February 2016, 15:55:34
Small update, discussion are going on with GMK on production capabilities, available legends, etc.
I still have no lead with Massdrop, if someone can assist, please do.
If you want to sell something in Europe, you need a proxy who can receive the delivery from gmk, otherwise every set us taxed with 30% plus $30 for the delivery.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 16 February 2016, 16:02:08
Small update, discussion are going on with GMK on production capabilities, available legends, etc.
I still have no lead with Massdrop, if someone can assist, please do.
Isn't @MassdropAlex (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53735) our official liaison?
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:02:14
Small update, discussion are going on with GMK on production capabilities, available legends, etc.
Didn't you mention earlier in the thread that you would be going with text+icons like TA?
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:14:22
Small update, discussion are going on with GMK on production capabilities, available legends, etc.
I still have no lead with Massdrop, if someone can assist, please do.
I've worked Kumar at Massdrop. Let's talk over pm?
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 17 February 2016, 02:10:45
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:22:29
Didn't you mention earlier in the thread that you would be going with text+icons like TA?I don't quiet understand what your query is addressing. The legends will be about the same as the ones shown in the latest mockups, with some slight changes like CODE key vertically centered, left aligned and some in uppercase. What I meant by discussion with GMK over legends was what is available, has to be produced for this set, available uppercase mods, and ironing out details of the pad-printed legends.
I've worked Kumar at Massdrop. Let's talk over pm?PMed
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Isn't @MassdropAlex (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53735) our official liaison?Thanks, will contact him.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:46:13
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:11:03
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Wait. When did you get an avatar? I'm so confused.
I really like the modifier kit. Which there was more green in the base. Still interested potentially. The mod kit would be a must buy though if you got the base kit.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:12:20
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Wait. When did you get an avatar? I'm so confused.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44539.msg2058449#msg2058449).
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:19:19
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Wait. When did you get an avatar? I'm so confused.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44539.msg2058449#msg2058449).
Ah okay. Missed that. I knew we had the thread for him, but didn't see where he actually added one.
Sorry for thread jack. Please return to discussion GMK goodness.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:30:23
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Wait. When did you get an avatar? I'm so confused.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44539.msg2058449#msg2058449).
Ah okay. Missed that. I knew we had the thread for him, but didn't see where he actually added one.
Sorry for thread jack. Please return to discussion GMK goodness.
Yeah Ghost changed it. Then I took one from my avatar thread haha.
I'm really looking forward to this set though. Hoping for 1800 support to really make it awesome!
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 17 February 2016, 10:50:16
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
What's your ass' estimate?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 17 February 2016, 11:19:50
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Hehe, estimate? More like asstimate.
I'll see myself out.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 12:25:23
Price will probably be $120 for the base set, plus $80 for the mods.Where did you get those numbers from?
Pulled out his ass most likely.
Hehe, estimate? More like asstimate.
I'll see myself out.
Haha and Giorgio, I don't make assumptions on stuff like this. Depends too much on a lot of factors.
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 17 February 2016, 13:39:32
J/K
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 17 February 2016, 14:08:54
Giorgio, I hope you didn't take offense, cause we just messing here. If you did, we don't care. :P
J/K
Slowly caressing my f j key caps with bars with vengeance thoughts. :)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 14:24:46
Giorgio, I hope you didn't take offense, cause we just messing here. If you did, we don't care. :P
J/K
Slowly caressing my f j key caps with bars with vengeance thoughts. :)
Bars 4 lyfe.
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:15:00
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:16:16
Two scoops with every board.
But what about the numpad 5?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:20:45
Two scoops with every board.
But what about the numpad 5?
Live the way the gods intended and finger that nipple.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:21:40
Two scoops with every board.
But what about the numpad 5?
Live the way the gods intended and finger that nipple.
I will be all over that nipple!
Post by: Zorox on Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:18:55
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 19 February 2016, 01:49:10
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:07:22
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 19 February 2016, 06:02:45
Is the CODE legend going to be vertically centered?
Yes, GMK has decided to go with vertically centered and light aligned CODE keys so that they are aesthetically similar to the rest of the bottom row keys. I concur with them because after the mockups it was clear that the top aligned key was out of place.
Post by: sambarugh on Sat, 20 February 2016, 00:44:03
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 21 February 2016, 03:19:17
Post by: kaiwwww on Sun, 21 February 2016, 05:25:22
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 21 February 2016, 07:58:31
This is the nicest example of green legends that I've found, the contrast of the dark and light green variation makes it more enjoyable than a monotonous green. The dark beige mods are quite nice too.
The Cheat was designed by the South Korean OTD guys:
http://www.otd.kr/
Post by: weifanwang on Mon, 22 February 2016, 15:48:11
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 23 February 2016, 01:17:02
Post by: kaiwwww on Tue, 23 February 2016, 03:38:53
Soon (TM)
Soon (TM)good news
Post by: henz on Tue, 23 February 2016, 03:42:46
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 February 2016, 00:10:27
Why you aren't blacklisted is beyond me.
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 24 February 2016, 01:51:46
Maybe you should think about refunding people for your failed switch sticker group buy before you run another.
Why you aren't blacklisted is beyond me.
Have you considered the fact that I am not running the GB, and it would by run by a third party. What happened with the sticker GB, was beyond my control and messed up my life quite a bit, a few friendly members were in contact with me throughout the whole time and know about what I've been through. If you saw the last updates in that GB you would have seen that the goods were produced and packed, ready to ship. Since then, I've pretty much kept out of all GBs and have tried to continue with my contribution to the community in the "making stuff" subforum. I also contributed an MK voucher in one of BunnyLake's GB. Hopefully these are reasons enough for you to understand why I haven't been blacklisted, if not well I won't be running the GB anyway, it's most likely going to be MassDrop. If you have anything further to say, we can take this to PM.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 25 February 2016, 08:48:51
Maybe you should think about refunding people for your failed switch sticker group buy before you run another.
Why you aren't blacklisted is beyond me.
IC != GB
Group Buys require approval and not everyone will have their threads approved. Just because this is not publicly displayed doesn't mean it's not happening.
Post by: bazh on Thu, 25 February 2016, 09:03:40
just saying, I love this set for a long time
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 25 February 2016, 09:17:13
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 25 February 2016, 09:23:39
Post by: romevi on Thu, 25 February 2016, 09:25:41
Small update, Massdrop is onboard and they too appreciate the colors and keyset. Now, just to finalise details on legends.
Nice!
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 25 February 2016, 10:06:30
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 25 February 2016, 12:53:42
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 25 February 2016, 17:40:21
Post by: weifanwang on Thu, 25 February 2016, 20:13:11
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 25 February 2016, 20:45:11
Post by: macharius on Fri, 26 February 2016, 05:40:25
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 26 February 2016, 07:58:48
Also thinking about scoops+bars on the two homing keys.
This is last call for any changes before we get final renders from GMK!
Post by: bazh on Fri, 26 February 2016, 08:06:51
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 26 February 2016, 08:13:58
1.5u LOCK key is cool too for us who prefer the capslock in the position of left Control key
The LOCK key they have is 1.5U R3.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 26 February 2016, 09:39:46
GMK have informed me that the LOCK and CTRL in 1.5U are the only full uppercase mods they have, all others will have to be new legends, something I'm not keen on at all, maybe 1.5U and 1.25U ALT and 1.25U CTRL, so that all the legends are full uppercase on the bottom row.
Also thinking about scoops+bars on the two homing keys.
This is last call for any changes before we get final renders from GMK!
All upper case on the bottom row only :confused: ?
I say just keep the first letters of each key capitalized so they all match. Looks better that way anyways.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 26 February 2016, 09:41:35
Post by: RevoTeam on Sat, 27 February 2016, 05:25:15
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 27 February 2016, 11:06:10
Proposed Base Set:
(http://i.imgur.com/YFhk9Hj.png)
Proposed Mod Set:
(http://i.imgur.com/Vnmc1YW.png)
Proposed Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:
(http://i.imgur.com/YHqMvuL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/YFhk9Hj.png)
Proposed Mod Set:
(http://i.imgur.com/Vnmc1YW.png)
Proposed Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:
(http://i.imgur.com/YHqMvuL.png)
Post by: weifanwang on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:43:50
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:16:49
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:41:35
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 27 February 2016, 15:28:53
I've asked GMK for their renders and pricing today. That will most likely stay private as Massdrop will be running this, and they will dictate the final price.
Nice that is good news. Glad you were able to work it out nicely with MD.
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 27 February 2016, 15:30:57
Post by: rm-rf on Sat, 27 February 2016, 15:32:05
(http://i.imgur.com/DQNIajy.jpg)
or maybe that's just me.
but all my TA sets have this.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 27 February 2016, 15:33:17
Post by: mrboovn on Sat, 27 February 2016, 17:34:38
Post by: dyrdevil on Sat, 27 February 2016, 18:19:33
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 27 February 2016, 19:01:38
Post by: ideus on Sat, 27 February 2016, 21:58:23
So how nice is the pad printing for the sublegends as far as looks, feel, and durability?
I had an old OG white on black Cherry set that I bought out of an used POS keyboard that had 1 unit windows keys pad printed, after all the use the POS keyboard had seen the keys look as good as if the rest of double shots, but a bit dimmed in comparison. You can check them in the picture, the two windows keys were pad printed.
(http://i.imgur.com/DwCQZwf.jpg)
Post by: ba7777 on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:34:39
Since the 'gmk Royal alpha set' get the darker legends printed on the lighter color keys , so In my humble opinion it won't be the same like the WOB set.So how nice is the pad printing for the sublegends as far as looks, feel, and durability?
I had an old OG white on black Cherry set that I bought out of an used POS keyboard that had 1 unit windows keys pad printed, after all the use the POS keyboard had seen the keys look as good as if the rest of double shots, but a bit dimmed in comparison. You can check them in the picture, the two windows keys were pad printed.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DwCQZwf.jpg)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:47:44
Moving towards the final design:Proposed Base Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YFhk9Hj.png)
Proposed Mod Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Vnmc1YW.png)
Proposed Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YHqMvuL.png)
Wouldn't it be great if the mod set would be available by itself!
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 28 February 2016, 01:45:30
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 28 February 2016, 04:13:01
The three packs would be individual sets, you can choose to buy whichever one you want.
:thumb:
Post by: ideus on Sun, 28 February 2016, 07:47:02
The three packs would be individual sets, you can choose to buy whichever one you want.
:thumb:
+1 for this.
Is the inclusion of US International legends a first on a GMK / Cherry set?
Post by: geniekid on Sun, 28 February 2016, 15:05:23
Post by: weifanwang on Sun, 28 February 2016, 19:05:03
Post by: jbondeson on Sun, 28 February 2016, 20:51:23
What kind of process for the Irish root, film or dye-sublimation?
GMK is ABS so if it's not double-shot it's pad printed*
* technically you can laser and infill, but no one sane suggests that for a custom set
Post by: ba7777 on Sun, 28 February 2016, 20:52:16
What kind of process for the Irish root, film or dye-sublimation?IMO it would be pad printed since the abs could be melted at the dye sub process.
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 29 February 2016, 01:47:30
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 29 February 2016, 01:53:21
Thanks for splitting up the mod kit btw
Post by: vafan on Mon, 29 February 2016, 05:26:37
Post by: simonyunhe on Mon, 29 February 2016, 07:51:37
Our old Cheatie :-*Check this out!
I posted these pics once last year but just found them again today :"> I miss him so much lah :'pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jt0u5iN.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xMsthwV.jpg)
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 29 February 2016, 08:58:20
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 29 February 2016, 08:59:52
If you run it thorough massdrop, you can remove iso.
I don't follow.
Post by: jbondeson on Mon, 29 February 2016, 09:08:51
If you run it thorough massdrop, you can remove iso.
I don't follow.
International shipping rates with massdrop are pretty horrific. Been a long standing complaint from non-US folks.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 29 February 2016, 09:28:27
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 29 February 2016, 09:58:44
If you run it thorough massdrop, you can remove iso.
I don't follow.
Sorry, it was about the delivery cost and the 30% import tax.
Post by: need on Mon, 29 February 2016, 10:24:25
30% ! That's outrageous !!If you run it thorough massdrop, you can remove iso.
I don't follow.
Sorry, it was about the delivery cost and the 30% import tax.
We got 20% here in the UK, and I thought that was high...
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 29 February 2016, 10:36:30
Any estimates on a time frame for this to be up on MD?If things can be ironed out soon enough then St.Patrick's Day. If not, then on the 19th of April.
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 29 February 2016, 10:56:41
I'll talk to them and GMK and try to find a solution if possible.Any estimates on a time frame for this to be up on MD?If things can be ironed out soon enough then St.Patrick's Day. If not, then on the 19th of April.
Thanks for taking this request in consideration. FJ with bars would be equally nice.
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 29 February 2016, 11:24:25
Moving towards the final design:Proposed Base Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YFhk9Hj.png)
Proposed Mod Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Vnmc1YW.png)
Proposed Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YHqMvuL.png)
The 1U CODE keys seem to be vertically aligned incorrectly – this problem isn't present in the mockups for the 1.25U CODE keys. I assume this is just a mistake in the mockups, and won't be reflected in the final set?
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 29 February 2016, 11:35:31
International shipping rates with massdrop are pretty horrific. Been a long standing complaint from non-US folks.
They actually have great shipping rates when they deliver the goods themselves, to SEA countries at least. We almost consistently get tracked shipment at lower price than untracked shipping from other retailers, or any individually run group buy.
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 29 February 2016, 14:16:55
Post by: William_S_Jones on Tue, 01 March 2016, 14:00:42
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 02 March 2016, 03:32:07
The basic backbone would be the same for all of them:
Base set with some dark color legends double-shot on some variant of white/beige with a secondary color pad-printed sub-legends
Mods set with some variant of white/beige legends double-shot on the secondary color used for sublegends and few accent keys in a close but different color to the secondary color.
First one is obviously going to be the Green theme, which is this set.
Second one will be a Red theme, so black legends (CR), Russian-Cyrillic red (V1) sub legends, and a red mods set with a few V2 accent keys
Final one will be a Blue Theme, so dark-blue legends (V4), electric blue (N5) sub legends and a electric blue mods set with a few V4 accent keys
Again, this is just a wild idea and will depend on the success of the first round, but is something I'd like to organise, be involved in and see happen.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 02 March 2016, 03:37:58
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 02 March 2016, 03:50:22
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:04:49
Sorry no yellow, not fond of the color :P
:(
Post by: ideus on Wed, 02 March 2016, 08:08:12
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:20:07
Just to throw this out there without getting ahead of ourselves, I am interested in making this set part of a GMK keyset trilogy.
The basic backbone would be the same for all of them:
Base set with some dark color legends double-shot on some variant of white/beige with a secondary color pad-printed sub-legends
Mods set with some variant of white/beige legends double-shot on the secondary color used for sublegends and few accent keys in a close but different color to the secondary color.
First one is obviously going to be the Green theme, which is this set.
Second one will be a Red theme, so black legends (CR), Russian-Cyrillic red (V1) sub legends, and a red mods set with a few V2 accent keys
Final one will be a Blue Theme, so dark-blue legends (V4), electric blue (N5) sub legends and a electric blue mods set with a few V4 accent keys
Again, this is just a wild idea and will depend on the success of the first round, but is something I'd like to organise, be involved in and see happen.
MOZ man...have some consideration for our wallets.
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:27:11
Just to throw this out there without getting ahead of ourselves, I am interested in making this set part of a GMK keyset trilogy.
The basic backbone would be the same for all of them:
Base set with some dark color legends double-shot on some variant of white/beige with a secondary color pad-printed sub-legends
Mods set with some variant of white/beige legends double-shot on the secondary color used for sublegends and few accent keys in a close but different color to the secondary color.
First one is obviously going to be the Green theme, which is this set.
Second one will be a Red theme, so black legends (CR), Russian-Cyrillic red (V1) sub legends, and a red mods set with a few V2 accent keys
Final one will be a Blue Theme, so dark-blue legends (V4), electric blue (N5) sub legends and a electric blue mods set with a few V4 accent keys
Again, this is just a wild idea and will depend on the success of the first round, but is something I'd like to organise, be involved in and see happen.
MOZ man...have some consideration for our wallets.
LOL. I'll space them out so your wallets can replenish. :P
Post by: Phirr on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:19:09
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 07 March 2016, 14:07:51
Also mockups for From Russia with Love and Two Oceans coming soon.
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Mon, 07 March 2016, 14:17:22
Heads up, most probably launching on St Patrick's day, 17th March. Ready your wallets!
Also mockups for From Russia with Love and Two Oceans coming soon.
Ohhhh snap. Very pumped for this MOZ! :thumb:
Post by: need on Mon, 07 March 2016, 15:05:25
Post by: mrboovn on Mon, 07 March 2016, 19:52:17
Heads up, most probably launching on St Patrick's day, 17th March. Ready your wallets!thanks for great news Moz :thumb:My wallet is ready :D
Also mockups for From Russia with Love and Two Oceans coming soon.
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:36:14
Base Set:
(http://i.imgur.com/j4qyu2t.png)
Mod Set:
(http://i.imgur.com/Mh3m8Kj.png)
Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:
(http://i.imgur.com/xW2aCwc.png)
(The white blank R3 key is being corrected and will most likely have an Fn or star legend)
(http://i.imgur.com/j4qyu2t.png)
Mod Set:
(http://i.imgur.com/Mh3m8Kj.png)
Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:
(http://i.imgur.com/xW2aCwc.png)
(The white blank R3 key is being corrected and will most likely have an Fn or star legend)
The MOQ are:
Base set - 150
Mod set - 150
Outcasts set - 100
The group buy will almost certainly be run by MassDrop.
We are targeting St.Patrick's Day (17th March) to launch the drop. Wish us luck!
For EU buyers:
In the past two weeks I have been in discussion with GMK, MassDrop and few EU members and whilst I am trying for a better solution for EU customers, I'd like to clarify a few things. From my understanding, the gripe EU buyers have with MassDrop is the 30% DUTY+TAX they have to pay and the higher shipping costs. First thing first, we can't deny that bulk of the orders are from US, so a shipment from GMK is bound to go to the US. Now the difference in shipping cost of a EU proxy handling shipping vs MassDrop is minimal if any, because MassDrop get volume discount from USPS. Now regarding the 30%, GMK has informed me that if they were to ship within the EU, then they will have to put a 20% VAT on the base price (Which we are used to seeing from GMK). This leaves 10% price difference which is just about offset by the extra shipping costs GMK will charge for shipping part of the consignment to EU. I hope this brings things more into perspective that in the current state of things, EU buyers aren't really getting that bad a deal and would agree that extra efforts for a EU "warehouse"/proxy are really not worth it. Having said that, I will try and see if a solution can be found.
Post by: need on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:45:50
So, I got the renders from GMK, and they are absolutely stunning. This set is going to look lovely. Thanks everyone that has been a part of the IC phase.Hope you can find a solution for fellow EuropeansBase Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/j4qyu2t.png)
Mod Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Mh3m8Kj.png)
Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xW2aCwc.png)
(The white blank R3 key is being corrected and will most likely have an Fn or star legend)
The MOQ are:
Base set - 150
Mod set - 150
Outcasts set - 100
The group buy will almost certainly be run by MassDrop.
We are targeting St.Patrick's Day (17th March) to launch the drop. Wish us luck!
For EU buyers:
In the past two weeks I have been in discussion with GMK, MassDrop and few EU members and whilst I am trying for a better solution for EU customers, I'd like to clarify a few things. From my understanding, the gripe EU buyers have with MassDrop is the 30% DUTY+TAX they have to pay and the higher shipping costs. First thing first, we can't deny that bulk of the orders are from US, so a shipment from GMK is bound to go to the US. Now the difference in shipping cost of a EU proxy handling shipping vs MassDrop is minimal if any, because MassDrop get volume discount from USPS. Now regarding the 30%, GMK has informed me that if they were to ship within the EU, then they will have to put a 20% VAT on the base price (Which we are used to seeing from GMK). This leaves 10% price difference which is just about offset by the extra shipping costs GMK will charge for shipping part of the consignment to EU. I hope this brings things more into perspective that in the current state of things, EU buyers aren't really getting that bad a deal and would agree that extra efforts for a EU "warehouse"/proxy are really not worth it. Having said that, I will try and see if a solution can be found.
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:53:02
Post by: romevi on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:54:40
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:54:52
Post by: luckyryan333 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 12:15:59
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 11 March 2016, 13:46:17
Post by: Pieminister on Fri, 11 March 2016, 16:27:57
I have recently picked up an Irish set from Ivan's GB, but I have had to use a few random caps to adapt it to an ISO board. This is an attractive all-in-one solution.
What sort of quality can I expect from GMK pad printing and how does it compare to the dye sublimation on Ivan's caps.
Alternatively, IMSTO is soon running an irish set with ISO support - so currently there are a lot of choices, but I would love to finally get a full GMK set.
So it sort of comes down to quality and price.
NB will it be possible to buy JUST to mod set? I know sometimes with previous MD buys you had to buy to the base set to qualify.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 11 March 2016, 16:43:02
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 11 March 2016, 16:43:31
There is not a single key I am missing in those kits :thumb:
Great work MOZ!
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 11 March 2016, 20:18:04
Those CODE keys might swing the balance for some people.
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 11 March 2016, 22:43:55
If europeans want cheaper, they really should ask MD to ship from China. Considering a good amount of their stuffs are from China anyway, it would make sense to do so. And they even have cheaper shipping options.
For EU buyers:
In the past two weeks I have been in discussion with GMK, MassDrop and few EU members and whilst I am trying for a better solution for EU customers, I'd like to clarify a few things. From my understanding, the gripe EU buyers have with MassDrop is the 30% DUTY+TAX they have to pay and the higher shipping costs. First thing first, we can't deny that bulk of the orders are from US, so a shipment from GMK is bound to go to the US. Now the difference in shipping cost of a EU proxy handling shipping vs MassDrop is minimal if any, because MassDrop get volume discount from USPS. Now regarding the 30%, GMK has informed me that if they were to ship within the EU, then they will have to put a 20% VAT on the base price (Which we are used to seeing from GMK). This leaves 10% price difference which is just about offset by the extra shipping costs GMK will charge for shipping part of the consignment to EU. I hope this brings things more into perspective that in the current state of things, EU buyers aren't really getting that bad a deal and would agree that extra efforts for a EU "warehouse"/proxy are really not worth it. Having said that, I will try and see if a solution can be found.
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 12 March 2016, 02:14:41
I am fairly keen on this set because I am an ISO user and love TA sets.Sorry, but I don't understand the whole "competition" thing, for me double-shot ABS from GMK and Gateron PBT with dyseub, are two very different types of keysets. Granted the color scheme is similar (same), however still, they are quite different in the end product. Someone brought this up on reddit too, but they got downvoted and comment got deleted, sigh.
I have recently picked up an Irish set from Ivan's GB, but I have had to use a few random caps to adapt it to an ISO board. This is an attractive all-in-one solution.
What sort of quality can I expect from GMK pad printing and how does it compare to the dye sublimation on Ivan's caps.
Alternatively, IMSTO is soon running an irish set with ISO support - so currently there are a lot of choices, but I would love to finally get a full GMK set.
So it sort of comes down to quality and price.
NB will it be possible to buy JUST to mod set? I know sometimes with previous MD buys you had to buy to the base set to qualify.
GMK pad printing is said to be the best there is and lasts much longer than most pad printing, however a lot depends on your body chemistry, environment, etc.
Yes, the mod set should be available by itself, without having to buy the base set, same for the outcasts set. This was always the plan to give those using a PBT set and wanting to use only the green modifiers.
The root of the problem: MD won't under declare, at all. Not even to their buy price. This is unlike any individually run group buys. If europeans want cheaper, they really should ask MD to ship from China. Considering a good amount of their stuffs are from China anyway, it would make sense to do so. And they even have cheaper shipping options.None of the online businesses like MK, MD, Amazon, etc under declare the items, it is against the law. These keycaps will be shipped from Germany, so I don't really think the China option is viable.
Post by: HannahPeach on Sat, 12 March 2016, 02:18:16
Post by: lootbag on Sat, 12 March 2016, 03:33:43
Although I'd be weary of using the set a lot since it'll start to shine, I think my GMK TA is already showing signs of use after a few weeks.
Really wanted GMK SNES for subtle hints of color but that didn't meet MOQ.
This set does the same for me and hopefully it will hit MOQ!
Post by: priyadi on Sat, 12 March 2016, 03:45:58
If we compare MD to Amazon etc, then MD wins this easily.
None of the online businesses like MK, MD, Amazon, etc under declare the items, it is against the law. These keycaps will be shipped from Germany, so I don't really think the China option is viable.
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:33:13
I am fairly keen on this set because I am an ISO user and love TA sets.Sorry, but I don't understand the whole "competition" thing, for me double-shot ABS from GMK and Gateron PBT with dyseub, are two very different types of keysets. Granted the color scheme is similar (same), however still, they are quite different in the end product. Someone brought this up on reddit too, but they got downvoted and comment got deleted, sigh.
I have recently picked up an Irish set from Ivan's GB, but I have had to use a few random caps to adapt it to an ISO board. This is an attractive all-in-one solution.
What sort of quality can I expect from GMK pad printing and how does it compare to the dye sublimation on Ivan's caps.
Alternatively, IMSTO is soon running an irish set with ISO support - so currently there are a lot of choices, but I would love to finally get a full GMK set.
So it sort of comes down to quality and price.
NB will it be possible to buy JUST to mod set? I know sometimes with previous MD buys you had to buy to the base set to qualify.
GMK pad printing is said to be the best there is and lasts much longer than most pad printing, however a lot depends on your body chemistry, environment, etc.
Yes, the mod set should be available by itself, without having to buy the base set, same for the outcasts set. This was always the plan to give those using a PBT set and wanting to use only the green modifiers.The root of the problem: MD won't under declare, at all. Not even to their buy price. This is unlike any individually run group buys. If europeans want cheaper, they really should ask MD to ship from China. Considering a good amount of their stuffs are from China anyway, it would make sense to do so. And they even have cheaper shipping options.None of the online businesses like MK, MD, Amazon, etc under declare the items, it is against the law. These keycaps will be shipped from Germany, so I don't really think the China option is viable.
Sorry I don't mean to imply one set is inherently better, I am just asking for user experiences with GMK pad printing because there are a few options at the moment and I am trying to find the one that fits my use case the best. I have never seen or had a GMK pad printed set.
The fact the mods are sold separately is great news because it will let me mix it with my current set.
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:43:52
Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 March 2016, 11:27:32
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 12 March 2016, 11:48:25
For key caps legends manufacturing, dye sublimation is the thermal application of vapored dye on the plastic over an stencil or mask, normally on PBT, pad printing is the deposition of liquid ink on it, usually on ABS, while double shot is to mold the legends in one plastic color and in a second step to mold the base key cap plastic around the legend, encapsulating it. As it was said before, they are not comparable processes. The pad printing comes in a wide range of quality, from those cheap key caps whose printing will be removed in few weeks, to GMK's that last years of use (I had and old POS OG Cherry set with its window keys pad printed that still last after many years of heavy use at its POS). If you are really preoccupied for the pad printed legends to run off, you'd better get a dye sub PBT set, but I think it should not be a reason to let this set to pass. Besides, there is no better contrast and quality on a key cap legend than the main ones on a GMK made set. Just be aware these are different and not comparable.+1, those are my thought exactly. I think they are two quite different things, your post summarizes the legend difference very well, and we haven't even gone onto about the difference in texture.
Post by: rwarwarwa on Sat, 12 March 2016, 15:31:53
Post by: weifanwang on Sat, 12 March 2016, 19:55:06
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 13 March 2016, 05:10:12
Packets from China are also very cheap. For a set of keycaps I paid seven bucks. Including delivery.
The cheapest solution could be an American proxy.
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 13 March 2016, 05:12:30
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80408.0
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 March 2016, 17:17:46
I have confirmed with multiple parties that when receiving keycaps from GMK in US, they pay little to nominal (~0.5%) in taxes/duties in EU. The shipping prices MassDrop gets for the international shipping is about the same as an individual would get while shipping within EU. The 10% difference of if the keycaps were shipped within EU vs from US is pretty much offset by the extra split shipping from GMK.
So, EU guys sorry, the 20%/30% taxes imposed by the government are to be blamed, so relax and buy from MassDrop.
Post by: need on Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:11:56
I think I've got the answer to the EU problem. There is no problem.When can we expect the set being made and delivered to us ?
I have confirmed with multiple parties that when receiving keycaps from GMK in US, they pay little to nominal (~0.5%) in taxes/duties in EU. The shipping prices MassDrop gets for the international shipping is about the same as an individual would get while shipping within EU. The 10% difference of if the keycaps were shipped within EU vs from US is pretty much offset by the extra split shipping from GMK.
So, EU guys sorry, the 20%/30% taxes imposed by the government are to be blamed, so relax and buy from MassDrop.
Summer ?
Post by: ArnavM on Tue, 15 March 2016, 19:06:37
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 March 2016, 20:31:23
Is the pad printing going to add much to the cost of the set?
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 March 2016, 00:24:18
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 16 March 2016, 01:25:05
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 March 2016, 02:27:36
Looks like this will drop on Massdrop just after 1976 SA Keyset drop1976 just ended and this will hopefully should start tomorrow, with MassDrop the advantage is that you'll actually be charged only when the drop ends successfully.
This or GMK 9009.. Or both.... :-\Both.
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 March 2016, 06:00:54
Summary of changes:
1. Changed legend on stepped Caps Lock in base set to "Lock" to maintain homogeneity with the rest of the Caps Lock keys.
2. Added Fn legend to the previously blank R3 key in the Outcasts kit
3. Changed legend on some of the right Alt keys to "Alt Gr" to maintain homogeneity with the base set
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 16 March 2016, 13:58:25
I think I've got the answer to the EU problem. There is no problem.
I have confirmed with multiple parties that when receiving keycaps from GMK in US, they pay little to nominal (~0.5%) in taxes/duties in EU. The shipping prices MassDrop gets for the international shipping is about the same as an individual would get while shipping within EU. The 10% difference of if the keycaps were shipped within EU vs from US is pretty much offset by the extra split shipping from GMK.
So, EU guys sorry, the 20%/30% taxes imposed by the government are to be blamed, so relax and buy from MassDrop.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 16 March 2016, 14:54:06
So, I got the renders from GMK, and they are absolutely stunning. This set is going to look lovely. Thanks everyone that has been a part of the IC phase.Base Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/j4qyu2t.png)
Mod Set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Mh3m8Kj.png)
Outcasts Set for WhiteFox/1800/FC660M:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xW2aCwc.png)
(The white blank R3 key is being corrected and will most likely have an Fn or star legend)
The MOQ are:
Base set - 150
Mod set - 150
Outcasts set - 100
The group buy will almost certainly be run by MassDrop.
We are targeting St.Patrick's Day (17th March) to launch the drop. Wish us luck!
For EU buyers:
In the past two weeks I have been in discussion with GMK, MassDrop and few EU members and whilst I am trying for a better solution for EU customers, I'd like to clarify a few things. From my understanding, the gripe EU buyers have with MassDrop is the 30% DUTY+TAX they have to pay and the higher shipping costs. First thing first, we can't deny that bulk of the orders are from US, so a shipment from GMK is bound to go to the US. Now the difference in shipping cost of a EU proxy handling shipping vs MassDrop is minimal if any, because MassDrop get volume discount from USPS. Now regarding the 30%, GMK has informed me that if they were to ship within the EU, then they will have to put a 20% VAT on the base price (Which we are used to seeing from GMK). This leaves 10% price difference which is just about offset by the extra shipping costs GMK will charge for shipping part of the consignment to EU. I hope this brings things more into perspective that in the current state of things, EU buyers aren't really getting that bad a deal and would agree that extra efforts for a EU "warehouse"/proxy are really not worth it. Having said that, I will try and see if a solution can be found.
Damn I wish the legends would be ISO friendly this look fantastic
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 March 2016, 14:56:42
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 16 March 2016, 14:57:40
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 March 2016, 15:06:59
As for icon only, I don't think that is ISO related and also, with the dual legend design, I don't think it would look right.
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 16 March 2016, 18:29:20
6.25U and 7U spacebars will be available as an addon in the three colors, AE, N7, 3K.
Post by: luckyryan333 on Wed, 16 March 2016, 18:54:38
In the interest of pricing it right, I might remove the N7 base arrow keys from the Mod kit and also remove the N7 6.25u and 7U spacebars.
6.25U and 7U spacebars will be available as an addon in the three colors, AE, N7, 3K.
It's not good news. :-[
Post by: simonyunhe on Wed, 16 March 2016, 18:58:18
In the interest of pricing it right, I might remove the N7 base arrow keys from the Mod kit and also remove the N7 6.25u and 7U spacebars.This sounds reasonable and can't wait to get one!
6.25U and 7U spacebars will be available as an addon in the three colors, AE, N7, 3K.
Post by: breitling on Wed, 16 March 2016, 19:15:28
Post by: sambarugh on Wed, 16 March 2016, 20:33:01
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 16 March 2016, 21:56:11
In the interest of pricing it right, I might remove the N7 base arrow keys from the Mod kit and also remove the N7 6.25u and 7U spacebars.
6.25U and 7U spacebars will be available as an addon in the three colors, AE, N7, 3K.
If you have addon packs, why not drop all the spacebars from the modkit and keep the arrows? Would probably be a similar price and still give people options who want them without taking anything away
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 17 March 2016, 03:05:14
In the interest of pricing it right, I might remove the N7 base arrow keys from the Mod kit and also remove the N7 6.25u and 7U spacebars.
6.25U and 7U spacebars will be available as an addon in the three colors, AE, N7, 3K.
If you have addon packs, why not drop all the spacebars from the modkit and keep the arrows? Would probably be a similar price and still give people options who want them without taking anything away
That is something I have requested GMK as well. Let's see, I'll try to ensure a balance between price and options. Don't worry.
We are going to try to start the drop today, if we can't, definitely tomorrow.
Post by: renne on Thu, 17 March 2016, 08:57:45
We are going to try to start the drop today, if we can't, definitely tomorrow.Waiting for it. :thumb:
Post by: salasource on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:49:09
Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:55:01
Looks nice! But ISO letters are all over uncomfortable places. It would have been super to see this set as first ever GMK set that supports international ISO.
It supports US ANSI International, that is the closest thing to an universal all in one layout to write in any language that do not require special characters like Chinese, Russian, Korean, Japanese and the likes.
Post by: salasource on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:58:43
Thanks, I see now - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY#US-InternationalLooks nice! But ISO letters are all over uncomfortable places. It would have been super to see this set as first ever GMK set that supports international ISO.
It supports US ANSI International, that is the closest thing to an universal all in one layout to write in any language that do not require special characters like Chinese, Russian, Korean, Japanese and the likes.
Post by: r5d on Thu, 17 March 2016, 15:44:20
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 17 March 2016, 16:45:42
(http://i.imgur.com/Kr7m6sb.jpg)
GB LINK @ MASSDROP: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-ta-royal-alpha-typewriter-keycap-set/?mode=guest_open
GB END ON 4th April, 2016
GMK TA Royal Alpha 610 Inspired Set
These doubleshot ABS keycaps by GMK offer the retro look of the Triumph Adler Royal Alpha 610 typewriter—with a modern twist. Like all GMK keysets (and the original Alpha 610 keycaps), these caps are made from the highest quality plastic: thick doubleshot German ABS in Cherry profile. As these are authentic Cherry, they cost more to manufacture than the PBT keycaps on the market today.
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Kits
Base Kit
The Base kit comes in light gray. To add a modern touch, US-Int sublegends are pad-printed in lime green along with the darker green doubleshot legends. ISO, Winkeyless, basic 1800, Whitefox, and most other other alternate layouts are supported.
(http://i.imgur.com/bPBbyEv.png)
Modifiers Kit
The Mod kit comes with lime green modifiers and dark green accent keys. HHKB-specific legends are front pad-printed. This kit includes the iconic lime green CODE key. ISO, Winkeyless, basic 1800, basic Whitefox, and most other alternate layouts are supported.
(http://i.imgur.com/qER5dt2.png)
Outcasts Kit
The Outcasts kit adds 100-percent correct row compatibility for WhiteFox, FC660M, 1800, and other alternate 65- and 75-percent boards.
(http://i.imgur.com/98RjTpS.png)
Spacebars
2 spacebars per pack, 1x 6.25U and 1x7U
(http://i.imgur.com/qeaBPn6.png)
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Pricing
Base kit: USD 114.99
Mod kit: USD 72.99
Outcast kit: USD 27.99
Spacebars: USD 8.99
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Special thanks to Yanbo from MassDrop for making this set a reality by hosting it on MassDrop; Cristoph from GMK for bearing with me; Ivan for his help with the US-Int legends; and thesiscampe for the beautiful renders.
Thank you also to Triumph Adler Royal for bringing this beautiful colorway with their initial Alpha 610 typewriter.
Finally thank you to the keyboard community and you, whoever's going to buy the set.
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:32:35
But maybe you can...
Post by: MassdropYanbo on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:49:05
ORDERING NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME.
But maybe you can...
I don't think the set will work with your Pok3r though...
Post by: luckyryan333 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:20:58
You know I can't resist these.
Post by: weifanwang on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:21:35
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:45:39
ORDERING NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME.
But maybe you can...
I don't think the set will work with your Pok3r though...
Post by: Niomosy on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:57:32
Post by: joey on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:58:28
I know GMK is pricey but that modifiers kit at $72.99 was a bit of a surprise, honestly.It's another ~65 keys. The RGBYK kit was 32 keys for $45.
Post by: Niomosy on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:00:00
I know GMK is pricey but that modifiers kit at $72.99 was a bit of a surprise, honestly.It's another ~65 keys. The RGBYK kit was 32 keys for $45.
Yeah, definitely a fair number of extras. I may likely end up getting it, just a bit of sticker shock initially.
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:02:36
Post by: sambarugh on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:35:17
Post by: Phirr on Thu, 17 March 2016, 21:36:14
Anyone who bought Outcasts Pack willing to trade/sell me 2.25u shift later? I only need that from outcast pack D:
Yeah you can have mine
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 17 March 2016, 21:43:59
Anyone who bought Outcasts Pack willing to trade/sell me 2.25u shift later? I only need that from outcast pack D:
Yeah you can have mine
Great! Trading or selling?
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 17 March 2016, 22:53:23
what is up with the price of the mod set :o
rip wallet
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 17 March 2016, 23:04:42
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 18 March 2016, 00:12:15
Post by: Dee1 on Fri, 18 March 2016, 09:44:34
Post by: Phirr on Fri, 18 March 2016, 11:11:09
Anyone who bought Outcasts Pack willing to trade/sell me 2.25u shift later? I only need that from outcast pack D:
Yeah you can have mine
Great! Trading or selling?
pm'd
Post by: Pieminister on Fri, 18 March 2016, 12:35:23
I mean at the moment I am using a hacked toghether PBT Irish set + TA CompactaSA 600 set, but it doesn't fit perfectly and I am having to use keys in the wrong places to make it work.
More
(http://i.imgur.com/fMiqKaN.jpg)
Which is why I am all the more heartbroken that unfortunately I can't at the moment afford it. For the base + mods I am looking at $200, and then have to hope I am not going to get taxed on top of that. It get that it is great bang-for-the-buck because of all the keys, but it is just out of my budget at the moment.
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 18 March 2016, 12:58:29
Man this set looks great. The render on MD looks fantastic. This kind of set is right up my street. I love GMK, i love green, I love retro TA typewriter sets.
I mean at the moment I am using a hacked toghether PBT Irish set + TA CompactaSA 600 set, but it doesn't fit perfectly and I am having to use keys in the wrong places to make it work.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fMiqKaN.jpg)
Which is why I am all the more heartbroken that unfortunately I can't at the moment afford it. For the base + mods I am looking at $200, and then have to hope I am not going to get taxed on top of that. It get that it is great bang-for-the-buck because of all the keys, but it is just out of my budget at the moment.
That is sad to know, there will be some vendors stocking this after the GB, but you can be sure price will be higher than what is being offered here.
Post by: need on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:12:40
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:29:32
Post by: need on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:05:05
If only this, if only that, I can't make everyone happy. Some people want only a few green keys, some want a full mod set, some want full light base set, someone wants the mod kit only to use with existing keycaps, so on and so forth, the complaining never ends.Of course you can't make everyone happy, but at least the majority will.
Man, I mean just look at the comments on massdrop...
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:06:22
If only this, if only that, I can't make everyone happy. Some people want only a few green keys, some want a full mod set, some want full light base set, someone wants the mod kit only to use with existing keycaps, so on and so forth, the complaining never ends.Of course you can't make everyone happy, but at least the majority will.
Man, I mean just look at the comments on massdrop...
Do you look at the Massdrop comments regularly?
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:09:10
There was an IC for about 6 weeks. Which is long enough, people only seem to wake up when the Group Buy goes live and they see the amount they have to pay, while in IC noone says anything looking at the 160+ keycaps.
My post isn't targeted at you in particular.
For the red and blue themed sets, I will be going with a single set with white base and colored mods.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:22:11
And they never end. I've seen the same sort of comments in almost every GMK Massdrop release, as well as a few other different drops. You figured people would have more constructive criticism; and they're not going to stop. New people are going to say the same things.
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:33:10
People comment things like, "Ugly colorway", "why would anyone buy this set? ". I mean not every set is for everyone, if you're not happy, just move along, why do you have to make nasty remarks.
Post by: Pieminister on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:54:16
They are pretty much always just "Can we get this in PBT?" "Why is ABS expensive, i thought its cheap" "People spend more than $50 on keycaps lol?"
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:19:17
Post by: 64rky on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:20:22
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:20:48
I think that generally, green colorways seem to be less popular too.
Maybe. Anyone have numbers on the CCNG set, that is the only green colored set that comes to mind.
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:25:50
I think that generally, green colorways seem to be less popular too.
Maybe. Anyone have numbers on the CCNG set, that is the only green colored set that comes to mind.
500, according to http://keypuller.com/cream-cheese-and-green-us/
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:49:06
http://keypuller.com/greentea/
Post by: r5d on Fri, 18 March 2016, 17:15:11
I know, happens with every keyset drop that is more than $100. Best to ignore and respond only to ones asking a genuine question.
People comment things like, "Ugly colorway", "why would anyone buy this set? ". I mean not every set is for everyone, if you're not happy, just move along, why do you have to make nasty remarks.
IMO the people complaining don't appreciate the difference between tai hao/the likes and GMK. Maybe because they have never experienced GMK caps? There are also some professional trolls there.
Post by: 64rky on Fri, 18 March 2016, 17:27:54
Post by: Phirr on Sat, 19 March 2016, 00:27:25
For the red and blue themed sets, I will be going with a single set with white base and colored mods.
Awesome. Buying this set with options as well, but probably couldn't rationalize 3x.
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 19 March 2016, 02:54:17