[IC] GMK TA Royal Alpha 610 Typewriter inspired set ~~~~~~GB LIVE!~~~~~~

[switchnollie]

I'm a big fan of GMK's lighter green.

Definitely interested especially after seeing lolpes' board.

[kokokoy]

Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.

The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too.

Wow! Great news indeed!

[priyadi]

They don't have a bottom row CODE key

what? they don't have R4 code key? does this mean it is impossible for other GMK sets (like SKIDATA+) to get R4 CODE keys until the mould is produced?

[MOZ]

Skidata+ has a left-middle aligned "Code"  key. This set would have the centre-top aligned "CODE"  key.

[priyadi]

Skidata+ has a left-middle aligned "Code"  key. This set would have the centre-top aligned "CODE"  key.

oh, I see. thanks for the heads up.

[whmeltonjr]

If a bunch of sets keep coming out that I like I'll have to continue buying Cherry boards. Decisions decisions. Digging the colors though. Definitely will follow to see what these wind up costing.

[MOZ]

The way it currently stands, I'm looking at a base set of about 116 key caps, similar to the TA set, all keys N7 legends double shot on 3K, with pad printed and coated AE Intl sublegends top printed, much in the same way as Ivan's Irish dyesub set. The win key will be replaced with brand the new legend "CODE" keys, I'm going to try this, both for the 1U and 1.25U keys.

There will be a mod set, very similar to the Bluegaloo, in CP legends on AE. There will also be some CP on N7 keys, most likely spacebars, Esc, CODE and the 3 Enter keys.

I'm all ears on layouts, colors, and specific N7 keys you'd like in the mod set. Open to any and all other suggestions as well.

I'm thinking of launching the GB on 19-04 (19 April) as 1904 is the year Royal Typewriter Company was founded.

[nubbinator]

I'm probably going to have to bail if it goes that route.  To buy the uniform mods and alphas then buy a full set of AE mods on top of that will likely push it north of $150.

[MOZ]

You could get the mods only.

I've also started discussion with some parties over PBT dyesubs, and reproducing the Irish set with Gateron. Their 117 key set goes for about 75 USA. However it doesn't have ISO support.

[64rky]

Would there be 1800 support?

[priyadi]

The win key will be replaced with brand the new legend "CODE" keys, I'm going to try this, both for the 1U and 1.25U keys.

CODE keys in 1.25x R4 for win key replacement?

Congratulations! This is the world first ever GMK set with vendor neutral super key, that is achievable on standard layout, without resorting to blanks and without using keyboards with 1.5x modifiers!

[romevi]

You could get the mods only.

I've also started discussion with some parties over PBT dyesubs, and reproducing the Irish set with Gateron. Their 117 key set goes for about 75 USA. However it doesn't have ISO support.

Regarding the Irish set, would it be similar to Ivan's by Vortex? Why go with Gateron if Vortex already made them?

[MOZ]

So, here is what it looks like right now:

Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):



Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):


All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.

[romevi]

So, here is what it looks like right now:

Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):

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Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):

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All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.

I squirted a little...

[geniekid]

1)  I love the use of sublegends to add HHKB support while keeping additional keys at a minimum.
2)  I assume the numpad render is just incomplete at this time?
3)  Should the 1u "0" sublegend be AE?
4)  Aesthetically having the position of "CODE" be similar to Control and Alt might be better.
5)  "LOCK" is awesome and true to the original...do they have molds for that though?  If they do, should we consider getting the original "SHIFT", "RETURN", etc?



Also, I'd be willing to pay more for 1800 support.  I'm getting into this regardless.

[iamtootallforthis]

So, here is what it looks like right now:

Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):

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Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):

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All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.

It all depends on price for me as to what I get. I would also prefer 1800 support though.

If there is 1800 support I would pay more obviously.

[MOZ]

2)  I assume the numpad render is just incomplete at this time?
3)  Should the 1u "0" sublegend be AE?
4)  Aesthetically having the position of "CODE" be similar to Control and Alt might be better.
5)  "LOCK" is awesome and true to the original...do they have molds for that though?  If they do, should we consider getting the original "SHIFT", "RETURN", etc?
6) Also, I'd be willing to pay more for 1800 support.  I'm getting into this regardless.

1) I got the idea from billnye's Bluegaloo GB, where he used front pad-printed backspace legend on the 1.5U R2 key.
2) and 3) There was an issue with the render export, fixed and updated post.
4) I agree, it's just I'm confused between the original style or something that is more in-sync with the set.
5) They do have the legend, along with some others, like TAB, SHIFT (2.25U only). I'm still waiting on the full list from GMK of all upercase mods available.
6) 1800 is tricky, because to provide full support, I'd need to include 5 keys in base set as well as 5 in the mod pack.

[FrostyToast]

Sweet.
I can finally buy a code key. It even comes with a free set of keycaps!

[geniekid]

[SNIP]
1) I got the idea from billnye's Bluegaloo GB, where he used front pad-printed backspace legend on the 1.5U R2 key.

Yes, that was my idea

Also, some pictures of dye subs from a Royal Alpha 110 on my Metal Dragon.  Sorry I don't have access to good lighting at the moment...   Hopefully this adds hype instead of detracting from it.

[appleonama]

can we please go through with this

just bought someones of ebay

[switchnollie]

So, here is what it looks like right now:

Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):

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Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):

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All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.

This is great, even more interested after seeing this

[weifanwang]

I like this kits !

[xondat]

So, here is what it looks like right now:

Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):

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Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):

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All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.

Ooh yes, looks pleasing.

[priyadi]

I prefer the CODE key legends to be vertically aligned with control and alt next to it. Other than that, they are perfect.

What about an optional kit for 65%? For whitefox, this would require: R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R3 blank, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl, R1 blank, and R2 1œU backspace. For FC660M this require an additional R4 2ŒU shift.

So, here is what it looks like right now:

Base (N7 legends on 3K with AE sublegends):

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Mods (CP legends on AE and N7):

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All ears on suggestions, critic, etc.

[MOZ]

What about an optional kit for 65%? For whitefox, this would require: R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R3 blank, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl, R1 blank, and R2 1œU backspace. For FC660M this require an additional R4 2ŒU shift.

I understand the requirement for the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl; but why the R1 Blank and R3 Blank? The 1œU \| has sublegend for backspace.

In anycase, I'm thinking about including an "Outcasts" kit, providing full support for the 1800, FC660M, 65% and other boards. Better chance of tipping than individual kits.

Don't want to add any other kits to the two main kits, if anything, I'd liek to reduce the number of keys if possible.

[priyadi]

I understand the requirement for the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R4 1U Alt, R4 1U Ctrl; but why the R1 Blank and R3 Blank? The 1œU \| has sublegend for backspace.

I didn't notice the backspace sublegend. sorry about that.

The blanks are intended for the true fox and jack of all trades layout. I imagine true fox users could easily get away without an R1 blank (plenty of R1 U1s to use). but for jack of all trades users, the only remaining R3 U1s to be used are KP 4, 5, 6 and ~#, which can look out of place.

In anycase, I'm thinking about including an "Outcasts" kit, providing full support for the 1800, FC660M, 65% and other boards. Better chance of tipping than individual kits.

Don't want to add any other kits to the two main kits, if anything, I'd liek to reduce the number of keys if possible.

I agree

[MOZ]

Keys for Outcasts kit:
R1 1U Del- 1800
R1 1U End - 1800
R1 1U PgDn - 1800
R2 1U - - 1800
R3 1U + - 1800
R3 1U PgUp - WhiteFox
R3 1U Blank/Generic legend - WhiteFox
R4 1U PgDn - WhiteFox
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Menu - 1800
R4 2.25U Shift - FC660M
R4 6U Space - FC660M

Let me know if I need to add keys for any other uncommon layout.

[64rky]

Keys for Outcasts kit:
R1 Del- 1800
R1 End - 1800
R1 PgDn - 1800
R2 - - 1800
R3 + - 1800
R3 PgUp - WhiteFox
R3 Blank/Generic legend - WhiteFox
R4 PgDn - WhiteFox
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Alt - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox
R4 1U Ctrl - WhiteFox, 1800
R4 1U Menu - 1800
R4 2.25U Shift - FC660M
R4 Space - FC660M

Let me know if I need to add keys for any other uncommon layout.

Awesome! I'll defo be in on this.

[MOZ]

Should I go for CP on AE only for the Outcasts pack or CP on AE AND N7 on 3K?

[iamtootallforthis]

Should I go for CP on AE only for the Outcasts pack or CP on AE AND N7 on 3K?

I'd say just CP on AE.

[weifanwang]

I think  just CP on AE is better .

[radio_killah]

I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.

As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.

As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.

[weifanwang]

I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.

As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.

As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.

good idea !

[weifanwang]

look like this one.

[MOZ]

I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.

As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.

As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.

Have you seen the latest mockups?  I should update the OP as well.

[radio_killah]

I feel like keeping it simple would be the best route. Using 2 maybe 3 colors at the most. Personally I like the idea of one text color on one base color like the original typewriter with some accent keys for the escape and enter keys.

As for compatibility, it really just depends on how expensive you want to make the set. I personally feel like tsangan and iso are generally the minimum, but more and more sets are adding HHKB, 1800, and 75%. All which add a significant amount of keys.

As for colors I think N7 on L9 or U9 would be really cool for the base set with L9 or U9 on AE as the accent keys.

Have you seen the latest mockups?  I should update the OP as well.

Yeah just reviewed it actually. 3k is also good as well. Have you heard back from GMK about any possible pricing? I think it might be easier to just go with a few accent keys rather than a whole second mod group. It might be hard to hit MOQ..

[MOZ]

Yeah just reviewed it actually. 3k is also good as well. Have you heard back from GMK about any possible pricing? I think it might be easier to just go with a few accent keys rather than a whole second mod group. It might be hard to hit MOQ.

Based on the success of Bluegaloo mod set, and currently existing Irish sets and the recent EnjoyPBT Green set I'm hopeful that we would hit the MOQ.

[DukeMugen]

Yeah just reviewed it actually. 3k is also good as well. Have you heard back from GMK about any possible pricing? I think it might be easier to just go with a few accent keys rather than a whole second mod group. It might be hard to hit MOQ.

Based on the success of Bluegaloo mod set, and currently existing Irish sets and the recent EnjoyPBT Green set I'm hopeful that we would hit the MOQ.

We will! Count me in

[MOZ]

I'd like to know from Ergodox/Plank users, are they interested in a blank kit? I'm thinking GMK, but MOQ is going to be a pain. We could also try color matching with SP ABS (VAT and VV look close), just a random thought.

[bazh]

wow now it looks exactly what I proposed from the first place!


would be perfect if including the backspace 1.5x D-profile key with the back x arrow legend


besides I dont think the 1.25 CODE key looks very good, or the idea of replacing the Win keys, they should stand alone as 1x extra key IMO, it'd be best we could use them replacing the 'Fn' key though. Also maybe we should consider the capital legend for CTRL too

[geniekid]

Should I go for CP on AE only for the Outcasts pack or CP on AE AND N7 on 3K?

I feel if you only went with one it should be N7 on 3K since that's the base colorway and kind of the identity of the set.

[CommonCurt]

Great news guys, GMK are excited and fond of the color scheme we are going for. The mockups that I sent them were with the Irish sublegends. They don't have a bottom row CODE key buy they are going to produce the legends for this GB at no additional cost. Woo Hoo.

The basic pricing they have provided looks promising too.

Great news. I'll be in for a set.

[MOZ]

would be perfect if including the backspace 1.5x D-profile key with the back x arrow legend

besides I dont think the 1.25 CODE key looks very good, or the idea of replacing the Win keys, they should stand alone as 1x extra key IMO, it'd be best we could use them replacing the 'Fn' key though. Also maybe we should consider the capital legend for CTRL too

The 1.5U backspace will have the arrow and x legend as a front print on the AE mod and AE sublegend on the the 3K.

I think the reason the CODE key doesn't look good on the 1.25U is because it is top aligned and to be honest the more I look at it, the more I think we should go for middle aligned CODE key, both for the 1U and 1.25U. I'm waiting to hear from GMK on available uppercase mods.

[bazh]

Yeah I more of buy the idea of CODE key as an 'exotic' key like what we usually do with the Ecs, so I'm still with the suggests that we do normal winkey and 1 CODE key. Changing the alignment to the middle is just ruin the whole reason we redo it IMO

Cherry infact have done 1.25x Code key, but it's not like the 1x one that more common known but have a 'box' surrounded legend.

[MOZ]

Yeah I more of buy the idea of CODE key as an 'exotic' key like what we usually do with the Ecs, so I'm still with the suggests that we do normal winkey and 1 CODE key. Changing the alignment to the middle is just ruin the whole reason we redo it IMO

Cherry infact have done 1.25x Code key, but it's not like the 1x one that more common known but have a 'box' surrounded legend.

I'd like to see the 1.25U key you mentioned.

[priyadi]

I'd like to know from Ergodox/Plank users, are they interested in a blank kit? I'm thinking GMK, but MOQ is going to be a pain. We could also try color matching with SP ABS (VAT and VV look close), just a random thought.

I have an ergodox coming in a couple months. So, yeah, count me interested. I just don't think the market is there for GMK.

[priyadi]

besides I dont think the 1.25 CODE key looks very good, or the idea of replacing the Win keys, they should stand alone as 1x extra key IMO, it'd be best we could use them replacing the 'Fn' key though. Also maybe we should consider the capital legend for CTRL too

I disagree. I wholeheartedly disagree.

I'm OK with bundling win keys if people are really into that sort of thing. But please don't take the ability to use CODE keys as vendor neutral win key replacement.

Before this group buy, it is almost impossible to have GMK set with vendor neutral win legends. I'm still in the market for those elusive dark grey 1ŒU blanks, which should be plenty but nobody seems want to part with. And I'm in the process of building a 60% with 1œU modifiers, specifically so I can put a SKIDATA+ on it with vendor neutral win keys when the caps finally arrives. It would be nice if this is the first GMK set that I don't have to do either only to have vendor neutral win legends.

[Tuntematon]

Damn, you had me until the sublegends. I have a set of these caps, love the colours, not so fond of the useless typewriter sublegends. Oh well, you can't please everybody!

[bcredbottle]

Wait, the base color is cream? It looks just white or grey to me.

[romevi]

Wait, the base color is cream? It looks just white or grey to me.

GMK renders are almost always not true to life.