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I'm considering a mx black switch but it's $170, I will buy it but i just don't want to overpay if I don't have to but what do you think?
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no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
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http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
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http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
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http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EFB2/dp/B004Z0XSAA/ref=sr_1_3?srs=7936803011&ie=UTF8&qid=1459207615&sr=8-3&keywords=Black
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Better deal but I don't dig the way how the markings on the way it is.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EFB2/dp/B004Z0XSAA/ref=sr_1_3?srs=7936803011&ie=UTF8&qid=1459207615&sr=8-3&keywords=Black
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No offense but I have no idea what you just said.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
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No offense but I have no idea what you just said.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
You mean tkl? Tkl = tenkeyless = no number pad
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The cost per switch is slightly more than say a Gateron or Kaihl and I'm sure that that is factored into the cost, but I think that the quality of the board components play a big role in the cost of the board. With that said, you won't find many for say $85 with Cherry MX switches.
If you are willing to get the TKL you will pay less http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-FKBN87ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3YA0/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1459208823&sr=1-6&keywords=majestouch++keyboard
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I"m getting the Filco with numberpad because I need it for work/excel work.
The cost per switch is slightly more than say a Gateron or Kaihl and I'm sure that that is factored into the cost, but I think that the quality of the board components play a big role in the cost of the board. With that said, you won't find many for say $85 with Cherry MX switches.
If you are willing to get the TKL you will pay less http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-FKBN87ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3YA0/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1459208823&sr=1-6&keywords=majestouch++keyboard
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strange, why do people prefer keyboard without numberpad? Don't they need it for work?
No offense but I have no idea what you just said.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
You mean tkl? Tkl = tenkeyless = no number pad
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strange, why do people prefer keyboard without numberpad? Don't they need it for work?
No offense but I have no idea what you just said.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
You mean tkl? Tkl = tenkeyless = no number pad
We could always get an extension number pad cause most of us prefer numberpads on the left side instead of right side
And TKL looks more appealing
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True, but it feels really weird how there are two parts...less uniform but whatever suits you.
strange, why do people prefer keyboard without numberpad? Don't they need it for work?
No offense but I have no idea what you just said.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
You mean tkl? Tkl = tenkeyless = no number pad
We could always get an extension number pad cause most of us prefer numberpads on the left side instead of right side
And TKL looks more appealing
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Why do you keep putting what you're replying to underneath your reply? It makes it annoying to read
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Why do you keep putting what you're replying to underneath your reply? It makes it annoying to read
let him live lol
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how sure are you about getting mx BLACK.
it's pretty rough if you're gonna be pwning newbs for extended periods.
But maybe you lift bro, and like it' don' evn matter.
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I'm considering a mx black switch but it's $170, I will buy it but i just don't want to overpay if I don't have to but what do you think?
I own a fullsize Filco Majestouch 2 with Black MX switches and I can vouch for it being a very nice keyboard, although stock keycaps are really poor.
Albeit, if it's gonna be your first mechanical keyboard and if you've never tried any MX switch before, you might wanna go for a cheaper solution.
It's easy to get ahold of used Cherry G80-3000s.
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I'm considering a mx black switch but it's $170, I will buy it but i just don't want to overpay if I don't have to but what do you think?
That looks like a real fine keyboard, sounds like you are definitely going to get it, so since you know you want it, try not to worry too much about spending a few extra bucks. Another option that cost a bit less if you're interested is a WASD V2 with doubleshot PBT keycaps:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard/wasd-104-key-doubleshot-pbt-black-slate-mechanical-keyboard.html
I have one with MX Greens and it has a nice premium feel to it, and it looks the way I want a kb to look.
This thread is interesting to me because if you look at the switch options for the WASD linked above, you can see that some switch choices are extra $$ and some are not. In this case the MX Blacks do not cost extra, but browns, clears and greens do. I do wonder why that is???
Enjoy your new keyboard.
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Filcos are very nice keyboards to type on, moreso than WASD or KUL. MX Black keyboards aren't more or less expensive than others, you're mostly paying for Filco quality.
That said, I would get the cheaper one (the caps with side printing), and use the extra money to buy or start saving up for a nice PBT keycap set.
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how sure are you about getting mx BLACK.
it's pretty rough if you're gonna be pwning newbs for extended periods.
But maybe you lift bro, and like it' don' evn matter.
Don' worry bout' it
What do you lift?
Whatever I want.
#foodnetwork
If you decide to get the best cherry mx black it might cost you a bit. Vintage mx blacks are worth it from what I understand.
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I think this keyboard would be better than the filco
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1401
It's a great price has nice keycaps and while mine doesn't have mx blacks, it has mx reds, it has been one of the best keyboards I've had.
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how sure are you about getting mx BLACK.
it's pretty rough if you're gonna be pwning newbs for extended periods.
But maybe you lift bro, and like it' don' evn matter.
Don' worry bout' it
What do you lift?
Whatever I want.
#foodnetwork
If you decide to get the best cherry mx black it might cost you a bit. Vintage mx blacks are worth it from what I understand.
I think gaterons have more or less overrode that in a lot of peoples opinions.
Might as well just get readily available and much cheaper switches, rather than combing classifieds hoping for a decent deal.
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Cherry MX Black switches are actually the cheapest and most abundant of the series. Cherry MX Blues are also somewhat common, but Cherry MX Blacks are easily the most common. They show up in mass-produced keyboards like the TG3 touchpad keyboard that can be purchased for ~$25 shipped on eBay.
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Then why did my filco mx black cost 170?
Cherry MX Black switches are actually the cheapest and most abundant of the series. Cherry MX Blues are also somewhat common, but Cherry MX Blacks are easily the most common. They show up in mass-produced keyboards like the TG3 touchpad keyboard that can be purchased for ~$25 shipped on eBay.
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Then why did my filco mx black cost 170?
Cherry MX Black switches are actually the cheapest and most abundant of the series. Cherry MX Blues are also somewhat common, but Cherry MX Blacks are easily the most common. They show up in mass-produced keyboards like the TG3 touchpad keyboard that can be purchased for ~$25 shipped on eBay.
Cause ur buying a wrong priced keyboard
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Oh, I had no idea. I just cicked "quote" and type above it as if I'm writing an email.
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You talk like i'm broke. I am not broke. Oh man, I have tons :)
Filcos are very nice keyboards to type on, moreso than WASD or KUL. MX Black keyboards aren't more or less expensive than others, you're mostly paying for Filco quality.
That said, I would get the cheaper one (the caps with side printing), and use the extra money to buy or start saving up for a nice PBT keycap set.
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I already have browns and blues and i didn't really like either one. MX black will give me a new experience. If I really don't like it, then I'll return it for mx cherry reds. I hope they don't charge you for repackaging fee though.
how sure are you about getting mx BLACK.
it's pretty rough if you're gonna be pwning newbs for extended periods.
But maybe you lift bro, and like it' don' evn matter.
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And also, I'm getting this specific keyboard because Martin Shrekli uses it.
Filcos are very nice keyboards to type on, moreso than WASD or KUL. MX Black keyboards aren't more or less expensive than others, you're mostly paying for Filco quality.
That said, I would get the cheaper one (the caps with side printing), and use the extra money to buy or start saving up for a nice PBT keycap set.
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I think this keyboard would be better than the filco
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1401
It's a great price has nice keycaps and while mine doesn't have mx blacks, it has mx reds, it has been one of the best keyboards I've had.
Yeah I wish I had seen this sooner but I've already placed my order and it's coming tomorrow.
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I'm considering a mx black switch but it's $170, I will buy it but i just don't want to overpay if I don't have to but what do you think?
I own a fullsize Filco Majestouch 2 with Black MX switches and I can vouch for it being a very nice keyboard, although stock keycaps are really poor.
Albeit, if it's gonna be your first mechanical keyboard and if you've never tried any MX switch before, you might wanna go for a cheaper solution.
It's easy to get ahold of used Cherry G80-3000s.
Oh I'm typing on my Noopoo Mx cherry brown right now. The reason why i wanted a full size keyboard because i wanted the numberpad and also because martin shrekli uses it. I thought mx black sounded damn good on his stream
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strange, why do people prefer keyboard without numberpad? Don't they need it for work?
No offense but I have no idea what you just said.
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G
Thanks for the quick response.
no.......
what keyboard are you eyeing?
nah don't get that keyboard
just get kul es 87 for probably much more cheaper. but its a tkl instead of fullsize
You mean tkl? Tkl = tenkeyless = no number pad
If you have to type a string of numbers the numberpad is slightly easier, but when you learn to type with the numbers in the top row you can be fairly fast. It takes practice. I'm happy to sacrifice the numberpad for deskspace. Some people have a seperate usb numberpad, so if they are I don't know doing their taxes or something they can use that.
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I appreciate this comment. It's the first "encouraging" and "positive" comment thus far about my purchase. I've listened to this keyboard over and over it just sounds so amazing here are some videos
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And also, I'm getting this specific keyboard because Martin Shrekli uses it.
Filcos are very nice keyboards to type on, moreso than WASD or KUL. MX Black keyboards aren't more or less expensive than others, you're mostly paying for Filco quality.
That said, I would get the cheaper one (the caps with side printing), and use the extra money to buy or start saving up for a nice PBT keycap set.
is this joke
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Yeah I agree. I'm currently typing on a browns that don't have numberpad. I have been using the top number row and only recently discovered that entering number on numberpad is way more efficient. I don't think table space is an issue either. Also, I've had topre HHP2 before and i thought that keyboard wasn't functional.
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds? I'm having a hard time deciding on what switch color to get when I get my new keyboard, I plan on getting a Ducky... it's just that I used to use MX Blacks on a Steelseries 6gv2... and I'm using Reds on a Corsair K95 now that I'm selling... I like both linear switches but I really just can't tell which one I liked better for consistency/double tapping etc... I feel like I should go back to Blacks.... :P
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds?
both are ****. if you're getting an MX switch get blues or greens. or better yet, get the superior topre switch.
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds?
both are ****. if you're getting an MX switch get blues or greens. or better yet, get the superior topre switch.
I don't like tactile clicks lol...... I like linear, what's so much better about Topre than Cherry ?
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds?
both are ****. if you're getting an MX switch get blues or greens. or better yet, get the superior topre switch.
I don't like tactile clicks lol...... I like linear, what's so much better about Topre than Cherry ?
Already have brown, blue and topre and none of them are any good.
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Browns and Blue's are outta the question. I'm just debating if I should get Blacks or Reds on my Ducky... I like my reds now but I hate this Corsair keyboard...
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1 thing u guys have to remember :
Its all about your own preference
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1 thing u guys have to remember :
Its all about your own preference
Yeah, I learned the hard way that you can't always take someone's suggestion because of preference. I am excited about my keyboard coming in tomorrow though:) btw are you a navy seal or just a seal from the ocean?
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1 thing u guys have to remember :
Its all about your own preference
Yeah, I learned the hard way that you can't always take someone's suggestion because of preference. I am excited about my keyboard coming in tomorrow though:) btw are you a navy seal or just a seal from the ocean?
I'm a land seal ffs
U guys spreading lies about me being a water seal
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Browns and Blue's are outta the question. I'm just debating if I should get Blacks or Reds on my Ducky... I like my reds now but I hate this Corsair keyboard...
I'm going linear after being with brown/blues for so long. After I try black, i'm going for reds.
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1 thing u guys have to remember :
Its all about your own preference
Yeah, I learned the hard way that you can't always take someone's suggestion because of preference. I am excited about my keyboard coming in tomorrow though:) btw are you a navy seal or just a seal from the ocean?
I'm a land seal ffs
U guys spreading lies about me being a water seal
That's because it's hard to not say you're a water seal considering your avatar... :D
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Yeah, reds are definitely nice. Same thing as blacks just lighter... think I'll stay on reds hehe, I just absolutely dislike my Corsair keyboard... need a Ducky, lol
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds?
both are ****. if you're getting an MX switch get blues or greens. or better yet, get the superior topre switch.
I don't like tactile clicks lol...... I like linear, what's so much better about Topre than Cherry ?
so buy a 5 dollar keyboard from staples, same feeling as linear
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds?
both are ****. if you're getting an MX switch get blues or greens. or better yet, get the superior topre switch.
I don't like tactile clicks lol...... I like linear, what's so much better about Topre than Cherry ?
so buy a 5 dollar keyboard from staples, same feeling as linear
Sorry but I use my keyboard for gaming ;) $5 would cause some issues :)
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Are MX Blacks better than MX Reds?
both are ****. if you're getting an MX switch get blues or greens. or better yet, get the superior topre switch.
I don't like tactile clicks lol...... I like linear, what's so much better about Topre than Cherry ?
so buy a 5 dollar keyboard from staples, same feeling as linear
I've never had a rubber dome feel completely linear. Even the worst, most mushy rubber domes that I've tried have had some form of tactility. If I'm getting a linear keyboard, I want it to be totally linear, not inconsistent.
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Keycap: Would you suggest MX reds or MX blacks? I play some games that require quick reactions and controls on just the arrow keys and spacebar (double taps)... wouldn't it be better to have a switch that rebounds faster? I use reds now I just can't decide if I should stay on them, I mean I really like reds to be honest but maybe it's just the way my corsair k95 is made? does ducky have way better build quality?
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1 thing u guys have to remember :
Its all about your own preference
Yeah, I learned the hard way that you can't always take someone's suggestion because of preference. I am excited about my keyboard coming in tomorrow though:) btw are you a navy seal or just a seal from the ocean?
I'm a land seal ffs
U guys spreading lies about me being a water seal
You beautiful amphibious creature. You know what you are. Stop confusing people! >:D
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Keycap: Would you suggest MX reds or MX blacks? I play some games that require quick reactions and controls on just the arrow keys and spacebar (double taps)... wouldn't it be better to have a switch that rebounds faster? I use reds now I just can't decide if I should stay on them, I mean I really like reds to be honest but maybe it's just the way my corsair k95 is made? does ducky have way better build quality?
It really is tough to suggest you a switch that you've likely never tried before, but there's a noticeable difference in stiffness between MX Black and MX Red switches. Personally, MX Black switches are fine for gaming, as long as you're a somewhat heavy typist. In my opinion, MX Reds are usually less fatiguing to type on, but you'll be bottoming out on them because they're very light.
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Keycap: Would you suggest MX reds or MX blacks? I play some games that require quick reactions and controls on just the arrow keys and spacebar (double taps)... wouldn't it be better to have a switch that rebounds faster? I use reds now I just can't decide if I should stay on them, I mean I really like reds to be honest but maybe it's just the way my corsair k95 is made? does ducky have way better build quality?
It really is tough to suggest you a switch that you've likely never tried before, but there's a noticeable difference in stiffness between MX Black and MX Red switches. Personally, MX Black switches are fine for gaming, as long as you're a somewhat heavy typist. In my opinion, MX Reds are usually less fatiguing to type on, but you'll be bottoming out on them because they're very light.
Okay well I have a somewhat heavy hand in terms of key presses I like to either hit them hard or I press hard down on them, I'm on reds now and like them, just asking for your suggestion if I should go back to Blacks, I've used both linear switches, I don't like tactile
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If you like Linear switches, try picking up a Zenith with Green ALPS on Ebay.
They're very smooth, a little heavier than MX Reds (but lighter than MX Blacks) and ALPS have a really nice deep, thick, sound compared to Cherries which sound like thin plastic in comparison. Most of the boards also have exceptional build quality and NKRO.
Not MX compatible, but chances are the keycaps will be double-shot ABS or dye-sub PBT, so the stock keycaps are good anyway.
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If you like Linear switches, try picking up a Zenith with Green ALPS on Ebay.
They're very smooth, a little heavier than MX Reds (but lighter than MX Blacks) and ALPS have a really nice deep, thick, sound compared to Cherries which sound like thin plastic in comparison. Most of the boards also have exceptional build quality and NKRO.
Not MX compatible, but chances are the keycaps will be double-shot ABS or dye-sub PBT, so the stock keycaps are good anyway.
green alps are really smooth but the short throw is what most people will not like about green alps and the slow return rate makes typing slower if you're used to fast return rate like topre or cherry mx