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Title: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 04 July 2016, 18:03:19
Saw independence day..

So Good... 

Aliens..

Plot makes no sense, but all the cool cgi + Alien Sphere entity which shed its corporeal existence for a purely DIGITAL one..

That's exactly what Tp4 aspires to be..


(http://img.emoticonplus.com/nGyzB.gif)


(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/id4/images/b/bf/Independenceday2Sphere.png/revision/latest?cb=20160701113055)

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: chyros on Mon, 04 July 2016, 18:18:35
You went outside today? Did it hurt? :p
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 04 July 2016, 18:21:38
Yea seriously, what SPF do you use anyway?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 04 July 2016, 18:52:44
Yea seriously, what SPF do you use anyway?

my chapstic says spf 30


(http://img.emoticonplus.com/Zyrg.gif)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: Elth on Mon, 04 July 2016, 18:53:24
You went outside? Brave soul
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 04 July 2016, 19:33:31
Yea seriously, what SPF do you use anyway?

my chapstic says spf 30


Show Image
(http://img.emoticonplus.com/Zyrg.gif)


Do you use chapstick instead of sunscreen? Now I know why you're constantly eating ramen yikes
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 July 2016, 21:42:38
Some of the textures they use for the outdoor areas are quite good.

The weather effects are fantastic!
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Mon, 04 July 2016, 22:16:07
Bull****.

Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 04 July 2016, 22:24:11
this
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 05 July 2016, 12:03:52
Wait, you thought it was good?

I thought you had good taste in films....
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 05 July 2016, 13:01:06
Wait, you thought it was good?

I thought you had good taste in films....


It was a fantastic movie..


If a movie has ___::



4/10 Plot

8/10 Audio

18/10 Visual

10/10 Aliens w/ Lasers

That's still a 40/40 great Sci-Fi movie no ?   (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)



What's also possible.. is

For example:::

Transformers...

-99999/10 Plot


So, unless it was a full 8k virtual reality experience,, no lesser amount of technical prowess could redeem that film..
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Wed, 06 July 2016, 00:29:10
bah and more bah. allow me to educate you:

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/0/06/Martians.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140120001808)

(http://www.fashiongonerogue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Barbarella-Movie-Poster.jpg)

(https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/blade_runner.jpg)
prepare for this to be desecrated: blade runner 2 is being filmed this month with some pretty boy as the lead. it will make ghost busters 3 look... a little less terrible.

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: SBJ on Wed, 06 July 2016, 03:35:21
bah and more bah. allow me to educate you:

Show Image
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/0/06/Martians.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140120001808)


Show Image
(http://www.fashiongonerogue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Barbarella-Movie-Poster.jpg)


Show Image
(https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/blade_runner.jpg)

prepare for this to be desecrated: blade runner 2 is being filmed this month with some pretty boy as the lead. it will make ghost busters 3 look... a little less terrible.
All fantastic movies.
They're doing a 2nd Blade Runner without Ford? I SHALL NOT WATCH.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: chyros on Wed, 06 July 2016, 03:49:11
The notion of tp4 going outside actually really strongly reminds me of H. P. Lovecraft's story "The Outsider" :)) .
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 06 July 2016, 08:02:49
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 July 2016, 10:01:02
bah and more bah. allow me to educate you:

Show Image
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/0/06/Martians.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140120001808)


Show Image
(http://www.fashiongonerogue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Barbarella-Movie-Poster.jpg)


Show Image
(https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/blade_runner.jpg)

prepare for this to be desecrated: blade runner 2 is being filmed this month with some pretty boy as the lead. it will make ghost busters 3 look... a little less terrible.
All fantastic movies.
They're doing a 2nd Blade Runner without Ford? I SHALL NOT WATCH.

I never saw barbarella
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 July 2016, 22:04:44
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.


Totally agree!

Not even sure I'd be able to sit through a modern remake of it.

I read The Edge of Human (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2:_The_Edge_of_Human), which I thought at the time would have made a neat sequel.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 07 July 2016, 07:52:15

I read The Edge of Human (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2:_The_Edge_of_Human), which I thought at the time would have made a neat sequel.

Never knew that existed. I thoroughly enjoyed Jeter's first sick insane book, Dr Adder, but the later ones did not move me as much.

He could be considered a worthy, if lesser, successor to ****, and if anyone continued the franchise, he would be a good choice.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:34:01

I read The Edge of Human (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2:_The_Edge_of_Human), which I thought at the time would have made a neat sequel.

Never knew that existed. I thoroughly enjoyed Jeter's first sick insane book, Dr Adder, but the later ones did not move me as much.

He could be considered a worthy, if lesser, successor to ****, and if anyone continued the franchise, he would be a good choice.

I never watched the Blade Runner movie but I did read and love Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep. The wiki shows four books in total, wtf.. I need these books. (Jeter: Replicant Night and Eye And Talon are the other two)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:39:11
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:41:52
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.

I didn't like blade runner..

It was too slow.. and the plot is very thin..

But I'm a sci-fi hardcore, so nothing in it was new to me..



I think if someone watched blade-runner at the very beginning of their dive into Sci-Fi,  it would be enjoyable.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:49:15
I LIKE

(https://cdn.cloudpix.co/images/angelababy/angelababy-angela-yeung-wing-tv-62013733c81cd05e893dba8e25bb7c9b-large-582959.jpg)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:57:06
I LIKE

Show Image
(https://cdn.cloudpix.co/images/angelababy/angelababy-angela-yeung-wing-tv-62013733c81cd05e893dba8e25bb7c9b-large-582959.jpg)


Engineering FTW..
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 07 July 2016, 11:16:24
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.

I didn't like blade runner..

It was too slow.. and the plot is very thin..

But I'm a sci-fi hardcore, so nothing in it was new to me..



I think if someone watched blade-runner at the very beginning of their dive into Sci-Fi,  it would be enjoyable.

I think Blade Runner still stands as a really great sci-fi movie, but at the time of it's release it was pretty advanced.  It's like watching Citizen Kane now vs. 70 years ago, because most of the groundbreaking innovations that it had at it's release that made (make) it such a great film are considered pretty commonplace now.  So while watching it now might not be as amazing as it was at that time, it's still considered one of the best, if not the best, film ever made because of those innovations.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 08 July 2016, 00:42:41
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.

I didn't like blade runner..

It was too slow.. and the plot is very thin..

But I'm a sci-fi hardcore, so nothing in it was new to me..



I think if someone watched blade-runner at the very beginning of their dive into Sci-Fi,  it would be enjoyable.

get out!
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 08 July 2016, 00:46:53
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.

I didn't like blade runner..

It was too slow.. and the plot is very thin..

But I'm a sci-fi hardcore, so nothing in it was new to me..



I think if someone watched blade-runner at the very beginning of their dive into Sci-Fi,  it would be enjoyable.

I think Blade Runner still stands as a really great sci-fi movie, but at the time of it's release it was pretty advanced.  It's like watching Citizen Kane now vs. 70 years ago, because most of the groundbreaking innovations that it had at it's release that made (make) it such a great film are considered pretty commonplace now.  So while watching it now might not be as amazing as it was at that time, it's still considered one of the best, if not the best, film ever made because of those innovations.

just look at all these details - name one film that has gone through this trouble in the last twenty years.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/142-behind-the-scenes-photos-reveal-blade-runners-minia-1691950942

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--L8oXSjb6--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/a7vawcuqlnbgmjsu2adj.jpg)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 01:07:08


just look at all these details - name one film that has gone through this trouble in the last twenty years.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/142-behind-the-scenes-photos-reveal-blade-runners-minia-1691950942

Show Image
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--L8oXSjb6--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/a7vawcuqlnbgmjsu2adj.jpg)




Modern CGI is just as time intensive to draw, and just as detailed..


There are more similarities than differences between CGI and Miniature prop making


Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 08 July 2016, 01:24:03


just look at all these details - name one film that has gone through this trouble in the last twenty years.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/142-behind-the-scenes-photos-reveal-blade-runners-minia-1691950942

Show Image
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--L8oXSjb6--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/a7vawcuqlnbgmjsu2adj.jpg)



Modern CGI is just as time intensive to draw, and just as detailed..


There are more similarities than differences between CGI and Miniature prop making

yes, just look at all these time intensive details:
(http://cartoonbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Frozen-2.png)

On a slightly less facetious point, I've done a lot of 3D work 3DSMax many years ago, and yes, it is painful and tedious, but there is a lot of shortcuts and coding techniques that produce a lesser product in a shorter time frame. and, time is money
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 08:22:33


yes, just look at all these time intensive details:
Show Image
(http://cartoonbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Frozen-2.png)


On a slightly less facetious point, I've done a lot of 3D work 3DSMax many years ago, and yes, it is painful and tedious, but there is a lot of shortcuts and coding techniques that produce a lesser product in a shorter time frame. and, time is money


You don't have any idea what you're talking about,  Any CGI character from large budget movies take hundreds of hours to program, build, animate, and texture..
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:06:25

You don't have any idea what you're talking about,  Any CGI character from large budget movies take hundreds of hours to program, build, animate, and texture..

oh the irony. only hundreds of hours? So elsa was made in a week? yep. you sound like you know.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:24:07

You don't have any idea what you're talking about,  Any CGI character from large budget movies take hundreds of hours to program, build, animate, and texture..

oh the irony. only hundreds of hours? So elsa was made in a week? yep. you sound like you know.


That's just the base element,  depending on where you draw the line on what constitutes Elsa,  costumes, customized lighting, hair physics, makeup.

There is absolutely no less work involved in the creation of Cgi movies vs prop movies.


Props are nice to blow up or light on fire,  but they generally lack the complex geometry possible in CGI.

Notice that tower had mostly flat panels with bumpy protrusions, it'd be very difficult to add complex curvature as in CGI.


You are diminishing what cgi artists do, and yet you know nothing about it..

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:05:07
oh the irony. only hundreds of hours? So elsa was made in a week? yep. you sound like you know.

That's just the base element,  depending on where you draw the line on what constitutes Elsa,  costumes, customized lighting, hair physics, makeup.

There is absolutely no less work involved in the creation of Cgi movies vs prop movies.

Props are nice to blow up or light on fire,  but they generally lack the complex geometry possible in CGI.
In a nutshell, this is what's wrong with the world today.

Actually, CGI tries to emulates the "complex geometry" found in this world either real or imagined, not the other way around. but you knew that, right? You're only actually just kidding here, surely. For example, you clearly will know the "complex geometry" of sunlight / translucency / refraction / reflection and oh, i'm bored now still can't be reliably modelled by cgi.

Notice that tower had mostly flat panels with bumpy protrusions, it'd be very difficult to add complex curvature as in CGI.

You are diminishing what cgi artists do, and yet you know nothing about it..

"bumpy protrustions" - that's clearly the technical term. The artist will state, I'll have some "bumpy protrustions" over here, some more "bumpy protrustions" over here, and some really large "bumpy protrusions" here. Sounds like weird science all over.

By complex curvature, you mean... a sphere, for example a football - something people have been making long before the first resistor ever appeared? That's really complex. Or maybe, you mean weird shapes with curves, just like what Raphael, Leonardo and all the other Greats were chiselling out of marble long before you learnt to say "I've just pooed my nappy"? Those shapes the Greats were carving - just imagine the mathematical equations needed to define them. Wow, MUCH COMPLEX.

Pro-tip, trying to sound like you know what you're talking about by stating your opinions as fact may work with your 15-year-old friends but just sometimes doesn't work in the big-pant-wearing world. For example, computers can't render "curvature". Only straight lines. a cgi 'sphere' is a high resolution multi-faceted shape, or at best, mathematical equations which approximate curves.

I love that you feel you are the defender of the true faith and have to press this point. I think I've forgotten more about 3d workflows than you appear to know.

Do tell me oh wise "Zoltar Speaks" (inserts 10c), what else do i know nothing about?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:16:48
oh the irony. only hundreds of hours? So elsa was made in a week? yep. you sound like you know.

That's just the base element,  depending on where you draw the line on what constitutes Elsa,  costumes, customized lighting, hair physics, makeup.

There is absolutely no less work involved in the creation of Cgi movies vs prop movies.

Props are nice to blow up or light on fire,  but they generally lack the complex geometry possible in CGI.
In a nutshell, this is what's wrong with the world today.

Actually, CGI tries to emulates the "complex geometry" found in this world either real or imagined, not the other way around. but you knew that, right? You're only actually just kidding here, surely. For example, you clearly will know the "complex geometry" of sunlight / translucency / refraction / reflection and oh, i'm bored now still can't be reliably modelled by cgi.

Notice that tower had mostly flat panels with bumpy protrusions, it'd be very difficult to add complex curvature as in CGI.

You are diminishing what cgi artists do, and yet you know nothing about it..

"bumpy protrustions" - that's clearly the technical term. The artist will state, I'll have some "bumpy protrustions" over here, some more "bumpy protrustions" over here, and some really large "bumpy protrusions" here. Sounds like weird science all over.

By complex curvature, you mean... a sphere, for example a football - something people have been making long before the first resistor ever appeared? That's really complex. Or maybe, you mean weird shapes with curves, just like what Raphael, Leonardo and all the other Greats were chiselling out of marble long before you learnt to say "I've just pooed my nappy"? Those shapes the Greats were carving - just imagine the mathematical equations needed to define them. Wow, MUCH COMPLEX.

Pro-tip, trying to sound like you know what you're talking about by stating your opinions as fact may work with your 15-year-old friends but just sometimes doesn't work in the big-pant-wearing world. For example, computers can't render "curvature". Only straight lines. a cgi 'sphere' is a high resolution multi-faceted shape, or at best, mathematical equations which approximate curves.

I love that you feel you are the defender of the true faith and have to press this point. I think I've forgotten more about 3d workflows than you appear to know.

Do tell me oh wise "Zoltar Speaks" (inserts 10c), what else do i know nothing about?

(http://thefw.com/files/2013/07/aubrey-wow.gif)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 08 July 2016, 17:24:58
Blade Runner is not exactly something that needed to be re-made.

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.

I didn't like blade runner..

It was too slow.. and the plot is very thin..

But I'm a sci-fi hardcore, so nothing in it was new to me..



I think if someone watched blade-runner at the very beginning of their dive into Sci-Fi,  it would be enjoyable.

I refer to my previous comment TP

I thought you had good taste in films....

I was almost willing to listen to your explanation of how you thought the new Independence Day was a good film, but now I just don't want to entertain it...

Blade Runner is basically the perfect dystopian Sci-fi movie.  Just act like a sequel or remake doesn't exist, that's what I prefer to do with Star Wars.

This is the correct opinion. I recommend the feature length "Making of" documentary called "Dangerous Days: Making of Blade Runner". It's super interesting.

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:04:13


Stuff that's wrong.



Essentially, Everything is superior in CGI at the 150 million budget level..  The reason is, that complex geometry on a macro scale is simply too costly to build, this is especially true of Curvature.

Your silly argument is built on minute details in geometry which is convincingly replicated via bump-map and texturing.

Even then, on plywood models, they stick with sheets, causing overall themes to be flat.

I highly recommend you check out some bts on cgi movies off youtube, or crack a book.

Your knowledge of the faux-aesthetic world is far too shallow..
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:12:29
tp you're dealing with a troll.

i figured you'd know this by now.

have you seen half of the **** this kid posts?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:14:25
tp you're dealing with a troll.

i figured you'd know this by now.

have you seen half of the **** this kid posts?

No, I don't actually read the stuff he posts..

I just say --stuff-- in response to what I'd assume he'd say to me..

I am at the level where I don't need to read most posts.. I already have a moderately relevant response ready.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:19:33
tp you're dealing with a troll.

i figured you'd know this by now.

have you seen half of the **** this kid posts?

No, I don't actually read the stuff he posts..

I just say --stuff-- in response to what I'd assume he'd say to me..

I am at the level where I don't need to read most posts.. I already have a moderately relevant response ready.

DONT GET SNARKY WITH ME TP. I WILL CUT YOU.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:22:59
tp you're dealing with a troll.

i figured you'd know this by now.

have you seen half of the **** this kid posts?

No, I don't actually read the stuff he posts..

I just say --stuff-- in response to what I'd assume he'd say to me..

I am at the level where I don't need to read most posts.. I already have a moderately relevant response ready.

DONT GET SNARKY WITH ME TP. I WILL CUT YOU.

Very basically, I go through a decision tree.

Without reading your current response..

You either   agree/ disagree 

I weigh the likelyhood of the two,  and accordingly prepare a response.


Now, at this moment, I feel there is a 50% chance for either case..

So, in these cases,  I would offer a neutral explanation of my process..


So whether you agree or disagree, it would be relevant..

If you agree, you would've said something like, oh do tell, how does that work.

If you disagree, you would've said something like that's ridiculous, I h8 Tp..


In which case this neutral statement would be enough to cover both.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:30:13
do you like me tp?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:31:43

Very basically, I go through a decision tree.

Without reading your current response ...


This is starting to bring the random blathering into focus.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:38:42
Another example.. I noticed Fohat posted above.

Now, based on previous information. I know that Fohat has a personal vendetta against Tp4. Over many altercations, Tp4 told him that he's pretty much wrong about everything with respect to the economy/ science/ religion.

So he's going to likely attack me in some way..  Given that he's old and at a near death age, He probably would not care about the current topic of movies and cgi..

So, it is most likely that he's just here to do his name calling.

And in explaining the Tp4 response process would itself be enough of a retort to whatever fohat may have said.

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:40:26
do you like me tp?


#Nohomo ?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:54:50
do you like me tp?


#Nohomo ?


tp you're better than this >.>
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 19:05:26
do you like me tp?


#Nohomo ?


tp you're better than this >.>

Like, is an ambiguous term.

Am I similar to Demik.  Do I enjoy his company, How much HHKB can one tolerate.. How much Topre is too much Topre

This is quite a large decision tree..

I require more processors.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 19:26:51
woooooooooooow offended. i thought we were homies. we were going to start a food business together!!!
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 19:30:59
woooooooooooow offended. i thought we were homies. we were going to start a food business together!!!

The food trucks are not in doubt..

I am 100% committed..

I looked into bunker building recently..

We can dig several stories down as long as no one finds out..


This is why the food trucks is a great idea..

We'd dig, then haul the dirt away in the food truck, and no one would know..

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 08 July 2016, 19:49:36
tp you're dealing with a troll.

"troll" that word doesn't mean what you think it means.


i figured you'd know this by now.

toiletpaper explains he doesn't actually read anything.

have you seen half of the **** this kid posts?

oh i remember you. you tried to call me out for being a shill for hhkb's or whatever. go you.
sorry, i'll fall in line, sir. model m's are awesome and you should pay £200 for one. no less than £200. and get flashy led's because they're cool.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 08 July 2016, 19:56:11
OnO
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: demik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:02:27
tp you're dealing with a troll.

"troll" that word doesn't mean what you think it means.


i figured you'd know this by now.

toiletpaper explains he doesn't actually read anything.

have you seen half of the **** this kid posts?

oh i remember you. you tried to call me out for being a shill for hhkb's or whatever. go you.
sorry, i'll fall in line, sir. model m's are awesome and you should pay £200 for one. no less than £200. and get flashy led's because they're cool.
best you can do?

meh, boring.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:26:15
Who is the official Geekhack Jerry ?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: SBJ on Fri, 08 July 2016, 23:20:40
Very basically, I go through a decision tree.

Without reading your current response..

You either   agree/ disagree 

I weigh the likelyhood of the two,  and accordingly prepare a response.


Now, at this moment, I feel there is a 50% chance for either case..

So, in these cases,  I would offer a neutral explanation of my process..


So whether you agree or disagree, it would be relevant..

If you agree, you would've said something like, oh do tell, how does that work.

If you disagree, you would've said something like that's ridiculous, I h8 Tp..


In which case this neutral statement would be enough to cover both.
This actually explains a lot.  :p
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:43:35
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Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:53:09
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Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 09 July 2016, 14:11:26

I know that Fohat has a personal vendetta against Tp4. Over many altercations, Tp4 told him that he's pretty much wrong about everything with respect to the economy/ science/ religion.

And in explaining the Tp4 response process would itself be enough of a retort to whatever fohat may have said.


Not at all. But I do consider it profoundly rude, disrespectful, and/or disingenuous during the course of a "discussion" to spew out random statements without reading and understanding what the others have to say, or at the very least thoroughly skimming their comments and links, and responding with logical and meaningful analyses (backed up by neutral 3rd-party science or journalism, if at all possible) to the points that they (and/or you) are putting forward.

It is not just you, others behave much the same, Redmaus comes to mind.
Frankly, I find many of your posts to be partially or mostly incoherent and I walk away with the feeling that you are actually saying very little. But you are the owner of this thread, so you get to set the "rules of discourse" ....
 
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 09 July 2016, 15:06:13
For the record: the last gif I posted was directed at Quincyjones's webcomic
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Sat, 09 July 2016, 15:37:18
For the record: the last gif I posted was directed at Quincyjones's webcomic

it's an american television meme. this is not the 'f yeah america' thread, so it has no meaning to anyone who has no idea what the show is (or who cares even)! explain
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 09 July 2016, 15:50:37
I thought it was just one thread, but no you're actually a **** in all of them lol
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: cookie on Sun, 10 July 2016, 04:38:06

I know that Fohat has a personal vendetta against Tp4. Over many altercations, Tp4 told him that he's pretty much wrong about everything with respect to the economy/ science/ religion.

And in explaining the Tp4 response process would itself be enough of a retort to whatever fohat may have said.


Not at all. But I do consider it profoundly rude, disrespectful, and/or disingenuous during the course of a "discussion" to spew out random statements without reading and understanding what the others have to say, or at the very least thoroughly skimming their comments and links, and responding with logical and meaningful analyses (backed up by neutral 3rd-party science or journalism, if at all possible) to the points that they (and/or you) are putting forward.

It is not just you, others behave much the same, Redmaus comes to mind.
Frankly, I find many of your posts to be partially or mostly incoherent and I walk away with the feeling that you are actually saying very little. But you are the owner of this thread, so you get to set the "rules of discourse" ....
I fully agree to you, you should have seen how this little sh!t sat DT on fire while he was banned on GH... Most toxic, disrespectfull and highly cancerous person I've ever witnessed on forums. I am sorry for the poor GH folks who have to deal with this individual.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 10 July 2016, 05:00:00
Wow this thread turned out to be a good read. Most exciting thing I have seen on gh for at least two months.

gg all gg.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 10 July 2016, 07:01:58

I know that Fohat has a personal vendetta against Tp4. Over many altercations, Tp4 told him that he's pretty much wrong about everything with respect to the economy/ science/ religion.

And in explaining the Tp4 response process would itself be enough of a retort to whatever fohat may have said.


Not at all. But I do consider it profoundly rude, disrespectful, and/or disingenuous during the course of a "discussion" to spew out random statements without reading and understanding what the others have to say, or at the very least thoroughly skimming their comments and links, and responding with logical and meaningful analyses (backed up by neutral 3rd-party science or journalism, if at all possible) to the points that they (and/or you) are putting forward.

It is not just you, others behave much the same, Redmaus comes to mind.
Frankly, I find many of your posts to be partially or mostly incoherent and I walk away with the feeling that you are actually saying very little. But you are the owner of this thread, so you get to set the "rules of discourse" ....
I fully agree to you, you should have seen how this little sh!t sat DT on fire while he was banned on GH... Most toxic, disrespectfull and highly cancerous person I've ever witnessed on forums. I am sorry for the poor GH folks who have to deal with this individual.


hahahhaahahha... I remember this troll.. -cookie-


This guy couldn't take the heat. and got all sorts of butt-hurt over something completely irrelevant to him.


DT as a place is fine, like any other place..


But, I'll admit to ruffling a few feathers, when I landed that Giant Truth Thread over there.

Everywhere has their clic crowd who believe they're entitled to the forum -stance and opinion..

However the truth is,  you're actually just frogs at the bottom of a well content with your own little sky..






That Rootwyrm guy, sigh..............  I almost laughed when he mentioned he's got some friction with paypal now....

That was completely his own doing,  Had he just given Berserkfan more time to do some coordination and transfers,  it would've all been much better..
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Sun, 10 July 2016, 09:18:00

I know that Fohat has a personal vendetta against Tp4. Over many altercations, Tp4 told him that he's pretty much wrong about everything with respect to the economy/ science/ religion.

And in explaining the Tp4 response process would itself be enough of a retort to whatever fohat may have said.


Not at all. But I do consider it profoundly rude, disrespectful, and/or disingenuous during the course of a "discussion" to spew out random statements without reading and understanding what the others have to say, or at the very least thoroughly skimming their comments and links, and responding with logical and meaningful analyses (backed up by neutral 3rd-party science or journalism, if at all possible) to the points that they (and/or you) are putting forward.

It is not just you, others behave much the same, Redmaus comes to mind.
Frankly, I find many of your posts to be partially or mostly incoherent and I walk away with the feeling that you are actually saying very little. But you are the owner of this thread, so you get to set the "rules of discourse" ....
I fully agree to you, you should have seen how this little sh!t sat DT on fire while he was banned on GH... Most toxic, disrespectfull and highly cancerous person I've ever witnessed on forums. I am sorry for the poor GH folks who have to deal with this individual.


hahahhaahahha... I remember this troll.. -cookie-


This guy couldn't take the heat. and got all sorts of butt-hurt over something completely irrelevant to him.


DT as a place is fine, like any other place..


But, I'll admit to ruffling a few feathers, when I landed that Giant Truth Thread over there.

Everywhere has their clic crowd who believe they're entitled to the forum -stance and opinion..

However the truth is,  you're actually just frogs at the bottom of a well content with your own little sky..

Giant Truth Thread

That Rootwyrm guy, sigh..............  I almost laughed when he mentioned he's got some friction with paypal now....
That was completely his own doing,  Had he just given Berserkfan more time to do some coordination and transfers,  it would've all been much better..
Giant Truth
beserkerfan shillGiant Truth Thread
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 10 July 2016, 09:42:53

you should have seen how this little sh!t sat DT on fire while he was banned on GH

I did see it, of course, and I will actually jump over to the other side, temporarily.

My personal belief is that neither TP4 nor Gutz are bad or dishonest people, and had no explicit intent to harm.

While Berserkfan generated a disastrous avalanche of disappointment and caused many innocent people the loss of considerable hard-earned money, I feel certain that there is an untold story and a "perfect storm" of emotional and panic-laden circumstances that we will never know about. And I doubt that there is a surplus of money left in his pocket, either.

When TP4 attempted to defend Berserkfan, he was ridiculed and flamed, both here and there.

Personally, I am out a bit over $100 (and a box for me may yet arrive, I don't know) but I feel disappointment, not anger.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Sun, 10 July 2016, 11:11:06
While Berserkfan ... caused many innocent people the loss of considerable hard-earned money....

In other words, he defrauded people, that is, to illegally obtain money from people by deception. Don't sugar coat this.

He deceived you before you spent money, and now he's deceiving you after.

...a box for me may yet arrive, I don't know

come on, you know....
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbya4dvO0S1rxjzkho1_r1_500.gif)

As for feeling disappointment, that's good, you're playing right into the fraudsters hands, considered yourself successfully emotionally micromanaged!
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 10 July 2016, 11:20:59
The depth and breadth of your understanding of the situation and the players is reassuring.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: QuincyJones on Sun, 10 July 2016, 11:35:12
The depth and breadth of your understanding of the situation and the players is reassuring.

I think my understanding of the situation is quite good, I'm not down any money here or hoping that the sun will come out tomorrow. Or, tomorrow's tomorrow. Or, tomorrow's' tomorrow's tomorrow...
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 10 July 2016, 12:08:19
The depth and breadth of your understanding of the situation and the players is reassuring.

I think my understanding of the situation is quite good, I'm not down any money here or hoping that the sun will come out tomorrow. Or, tomorrow's tomorrow. Or, tomorrow's' tomorrow's tomorrow...

This troll just won't let up.. hahaha..

Quincy, you're ignorant, hahaha..

I guess that doesn't matter so much on the internet,  but it seems to be your personality trait to defend that ignorance as well..

Sigh....... 
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 11 July 2016, 20:54:31
While Berserkfan generated a disastrous avalanche of disappointment and caused many innocent people the loss of considerable hard-earned money, I feel certain that there is an untold story and a "perfect storm" of emotional and panic-laden circumstances that we will never know about. And I doubt that there is a surplus of money left in his pocket, either.

When TP4 attempted to defend Berserkfan, he was ridiculed and flamed, both here and there.

Personally, I am out a bit over $100 (and a box for me may yet arrive, I don't know) but I feel disappointment, not anger.

I have sold/bought from Berserk multiple times over the past couple years, last time being a trackball from one of his clearance sales and had no issues whatsoever. I agree, I highly doubt he meant for what happened to happen.

I think the situation just got out of hand, multiplied by life made it too much to handle. I also highly doubt berserk left with profit from what happened.

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: clankgy1 on Tue, 12 July 2016, 00:39:31
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 July 2016, 01:32:08
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 12 July 2016, 05:51:48
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.

Spoken like a true single person!
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: SBJ on Tue, 12 July 2016, 05:53:03
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.
Except, you know, real human experiences.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 12 July 2016, 07:47:25
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.
Except, you know, real human experiences.

I kind of like fresh air. Green plants are reassuring, too.

Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: SBJ on Tue, 12 July 2016, 08:05:34
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.
Except, you know, real human experiences.

I kind of like fresh air. Green plants are reassuring, too.
Yeah and I love the smell after it rains too.
Also concerts are pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 July 2016, 10:23:18
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.
Except, you know, real human experiences.

I kind of like fresh air. Green plants are reassuring, too.
Yeah and I love the smell after it rains too.
Also concerts are pretty amazing.

I got plants @ home.. lots of um..

House surrounded by large grass fields..

Just crack a window..

/But obviously Tp4 don't crack the window cuz outside air is unfiltered and it's HOT... and potentially humid..(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/wet-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862524)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 12 July 2016, 10:57:44
The conclusion I draw from this thread is that going outside causes issues.

You don't want to ever go outside in general..  there's nothing out there that's not on the internet.
Except, you know, real human experiences.

I kind of like fresh air. Green plants are reassuring, too.
Yeah and I love the smell after it rains too.
Also concerts are pretty amazing.

I got plants @ home.. lots of um..

House surrounded by large grass fields..

Just crack a window..

/But obviously Tp4 don't crack the window cuz outside air is unfiltered and it's HOT... and potentially humid..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/wet-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862524)


Where do you live tp?
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 July 2016, 10:58:57

I got plants @ home.. lots of um..

House surrounded by large grass fields..

Just crack a window..

/But obviously Tp4 don't crack the window cuz outside air is unfiltered and it's HOT... and potentially humid..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/wet-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862524)


Where do you live tp?

New Jersey = Pollution..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/help-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862508)
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 12 July 2016, 11:00:34

I got plants @ home.. lots of um..

House surrounded by large grass fields..

Just crack a window..

/But obviously Tp4 don't crack the window cuz outside air is unfiltered and it's HOT... and potentially humid..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/wet-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862524)


Where do you live tp?

New Jersey = Pollution..

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/help-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862508)


Come up to Michigan, you can trade the pollution for criminals and craft beer.
Title: Re: Went outside today.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 July 2016, 11:32:31

I got plants @ home.. lots of um..

House surrounded by large grass fields..

Just crack a window..

/But obviously Tp4 don't crack the window cuz outside air is unfiltered and it's HOT... and potentially humid..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/wet-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862524)


Where do you live tp?

New Jersey = Pollution..

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/help-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862508)


Come up to Michigan, you can trade the pollution for criminals and craft beer.

I'm not sure I could withstand the influx of pollen.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)