Post by: numiru on Wed, 20 March 2019, 01:51:49
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Hi everyone! Back in 2014 I worked with PMK / Signature Plastics to have Green Tea produced for their group buy page.
It was an ABS doubleshot set in DCS profile.
If you are interested, and have any special requests for this round please let me know! If this gains traction I will contact GMK.
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Base kit
Modifier kit for ANSI (and ISO?)
Alternative spacebar kit (for 7x etc)
Post by: Xynerorias on Wed, 20 March 2019, 01:54:43
That's a pass for me chief, sorry.
But how can you go pbt with GMK? If you want dyesub you have to go for Epbt no?
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Wed, 20 March 2019, 01:58:32
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:06:51
I'd like to organize a group buy for a PBT dye sublimated Green Tea through GMK.
However, is the above an accident?
Edit: Removed a question that I overlooked.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:11:32
Post by: the_high_5 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:18:03
Also, I would most definitely be in if 40s compatibility is offered.
Post by: higgga on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:18:39
Can we get renders of the planned kits? This is a big factor for me.
Does gmk even do pbt?
Post by: OtherAndrew on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:18:46
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:23:33
dude act like he just step out of a time machine lmao
good set but this ic is not boding well
see if you can get in touch with a vendor and have them brief you on some of the finer details
Post by: numiru on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:30:26
dude act like he just step out of a time machine lmao
i been sleepin the whole time jus woke up
Post by: numiru on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:31:06
GMK is ABS only…
:(
Post by: numiru on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:36:00
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:58:54
Def worth working with a vendor and some proxies to get the kits set up and to help with logistics. Given this is likely to be custom colours, the MOQ will be 250 - but the great news is you can send GMK some of the original caps for colour matching.
In terms of compat def look at how some of the modern sets are structuring their base kit - some larger base kit examples like Calm Depths show what can be done on a cost per key basis - sets like Jamon show what can be done to reduce cost to a lower price but with more limited compatibility.
I’ll get **** for saying this, and these are just suggestions - but as an ISO user I’d love to see support for it as well as HHKB and 1800. For me this set will look really nice on those larger boards with a numpad etc.
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Post by: Zylkan on Wed, 20 March 2019, 07:30:36
Thanks for your work!
Z
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Post by: vicissitude on Wed, 20 March 2019, 07:53:11
DCS is great.
Hope GMK would be better.
Post by: 19MODL on Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:05:06
Way greener than any green tea I've ever drank :)) I expected a more pale green when clickingTbh I think it contrasts well with white legends. I wouldn’t mind one shade darker even haha.
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Post by: dallman5 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 09:53:51
I am interested but I suggest you get enough compatibility -- I think a good way to do compatibility was Taro (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93732.0) -- same way of doing base + spacebar kit + novelties!
I second this!
I’ve always liked this colorway, so definitely interested! I’d love to see the novelties stay as well.
Post by: sagadoi on Wed, 20 March 2019, 11:04:37
If so, definitely in.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 20 March 2019, 11:33:44
Would you guys still be interested in a rerun of the doubleshot ABS edition of the set?
Yeah there is definitely interest in this. You can utilize GMK standard colors in order to achieve lower MOQ. The colors would be AE, CC or 2B and for white legends CP or WS1.
Does gmk even do pbt?gmkrumors.com (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uG9PGqaWeo)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 March 2019, 11:34:50
Post by: Littz on Wed, 20 March 2019, 12:16:32
Super in.
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Post by: numiru on Thu, 21 March 2019, 07:17:31
Def worth working with a vendor and some proxies to get the kits set up and to help with logistics. Given this is likely to be custom colours, the MOQ will be 250 - but the great news is you can send GMK some of the original caps for colour matching.
In terms of compat def look at how some of the modern sets are structuring their base kit - some larger base kit examples like Calm Depths show what can be done on a cost per key basis - sets like Jamon show what can be done to reduce cost to a lower price but with more limited compatibility.
Yeah I know GBs are infamous for people getting their orders years later... I'm sure it's harder to run one than it seems so I'd prefer to work with a company to guarantee timeliness and all the other technicalities.
Preciate you!
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 21 March 2019, 10:33:47
Post by: numiru on Thu, 21 March 2019, 11:24:20
No Numpad???
This is just an idea at the current stage. I do want to make sure everyone's able to get the kits for their preferred layout, but I don't want to feature a ton of extra kits that may not meet moq. Numpad is probably a go so long as there's enough demand. During the original run at pmk, the numpad kit luckily just barely met the moq
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Post by: numiru on Sun, 24 May 2020, 21:57:34
So no updates from the actual OP for a while, guessing this is dead?
The whole covid thing got kinda crazy with school and stuff. I'd consider running this in the summer possibly if there was enough interest still.
I have never collabed with GMK before though, so it would be a learning experience for me. With Signature Plastics, I simply rendered the idea in Illustrator (first time I ever used Illustrator) and picked the colors from the Signature Plastics page. They did all the work for me.
Running through GMK is a little bit more hands-on it seems, and to organize a big GB like this would be a huge undertaking for me. I'd want to do it the right way and not keep people waiting on their orders forever.
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:17:51
So no updates from the actual OP for a while, guessing this is dead?
The whole covid thing got kinda crazy with school and stuff. I'd consider running this in the summer possibly if there was enough interest still.
I have never collabed with GMK before though, so it would be a learning experience for me. With Signature Plastics, I simply rendered the idea in Illustrator (first time I ever used Illustrator) and picked the colors from the Signature Plastics page. They did all the work for me.
Running through GMK is a little bit more hands-on it seems, and to organize a big GB like this would be a huge undertaking for me. I'd want to do it the right way and not keep people waiting on their orders forever.
Why not try to talk to some vendors, you don't need to go directly to the manu anymore like you used to a few years ago, a lot of vendors are starting to handle big keyset group buys for the community.
Post by: numiru on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:23:16
Why not try to talk to some vendors, you don't need to go directly to the manu anymore like you used to a few years ago, a lot of vendors are starting to handle big keyset group buys for the community.
that could totally work! first thing that comes to mind is massdrop. do they take ideas like this?
Post by: numiru on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:30:01
Why not try to talk to some vendors, you don't need to go directly to the manu anymore like you used to a few years ago, a lot of vendors are starting to handle big keyset group buys for the community.
that could totally work! first thing that comes to mind is massdrop. do they take ideas like this?
Submitted my idea to Massdrop. Fingers crossed
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:32:58
Why not try to talk to some vendors, you don't need to go directly to the manu anymore like you used to a few years ago, a lot of vendors are starting to handle big keyset group buys for the community.
that could totally work! first thing that comes to mind is massdrop. do they take ideas like this?
Submitted my idea to Massdrop. Fingers crossed
Massdrop does do it, I don't know how the community feels over it. I've seen wildly contrasting opinions on them. But i do have my fingers crossed. :D
Out of curiosity what did you have to submit? Just the concept or did you have kits planned out? I was curious because the IC looked somewhat sparse.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:36:28
When you’ve got those, write to some vendors. Drop would be one, but novelkeys, Dixie, TX keyboards, project keyboard, cannonkeys, Switchmod, Kono store, the key company are others you would want to try.
Relevant The wire pic: https://me.me/i/game-done-changed-games-the-same-just-got-more-fierce-22013010
Post by: numiru on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:38:30
Out of curiosity what did you have to submit? Just the concept or did you have kits planned out? I was curious because the IC looked somewhat sparse.Originally I had the following kits
Base (alphas)
Modifiers
Numpad
ISO kit
Smallfry kit
alternative spacebars
I remember the Smallfry at the time was one of the more popular 40% kits. Been out of the scene for a while so I'm not sure what layouts are popular right now, but I'd like to give everyone options for their layouts. Would have to know what people want (also need to make sure there's enough demand for each kit)
Post by: numiru on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:39:04
I suggest you design a base kit and some child kits (space bars at the minimum). Not that the colors are the same, but Rensuya’s Moomin and Fredington’s Red Devils sets are pretty good starting points. Kits designed plus some renders is the 2020 first interest check post standard. If you had designs for...novelTeas, a kit for them too.
When you’ve got those, write to some vendors. Drop would be one, but novelkeys, Dixie, TX keyboards, project keyboard, cannonkeys, Switchmod, Kono store, the key company are others you would want to try.
Relevant The wire pic: https://me.me/i/game-done-changed-games-the-same-just-got-more-fierce-22013010
thanks! will look into all this stuff
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:07:16
I suggest you design a base kit and some child kits (space bars at the minimum). Not that the colors are the same, but Rensuya’s Moomin and Fredington’s Red Devils sets are pretty good starting points. Kits designed plus some renders is the 2020 first interest check post standard. If you had designs for...novelTeas, a kit for them too.
When you’ve got those, write to some vendors. Drop would be one, but novelkeys, Dixie, TX keyboards, project keyboard, cannonkeys, Switchmod, Kono store, the key company are others you would want to try.
Relevant The wire pic: https://me.me/i/game-done-changed-games-the-same-just-got-more-fierce-22013010
thanks! will look into all this stuff
Yeah what Histio said, definitely more qualified to talk about it. I'd honestly just look at the more recent IC and that'll give you the best idea for kits. Maybe the Kit Police will show up too and drop some opinions. :thumb:
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:20:32
Generally in GMK, you'll have:
- a base or core kit that covers most common layouts: full-size, TKL, 1800/CP, 75%, 65%, 60%, MX HHKB, etc.
- an extension kit to cover additional keys that are often optional (sometimes 40%s as well), etc
- a spacebar kit
- a novelties kit -- you can choose to integrate these into the base, but keep in mind the number of keys.
Sometimes some kit designers choose to split the numpad from the base kit but this is only really worthwhile when the base kit is expected to hit higher MOQs (500 --> 1000 units for example) as it allows for price cuts that make splitting kits worthwhile. Nearly most of the time, it's better to keep numpad in base on GMK sets.
Anyhow, there are a bunch of keysets out there so check out their kit designs and go from there! This (https://matrixzj.github.io/docs/gmk-keycaps) should be a good resource to look at recent and older GMK sets.
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Post by: numiru on Tue, 16 June 2020, 15:59:29
I may experiment with a few alterations in color from the original set just to try something new. Maybe a slightly darker gray? Although I feel that most people are interested in the original colorway.
Post by: Dunzos on Tue, 16 June 2020, 16:13:08
Some creative novelties would be hype too
Post by: numiru on Tue, 16 June 2020, 16:20:04
would definitely be interested when more renders are released.
Some creative novelties would be hype too
would love to do more novelties!
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 16 June 2020, 17:50:25
This one is a doozy and I can’t wait for it
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Post by: Motte on Wed, 17 June 2020, 13:04:14
Hey all. Sorry about the lack of updates- had an emergency and been offline for a few weeks. A handful of vendors have reached out that were interested in collabing to bring GMK Green Tea to reality. I have responded to all that showed interest. Did some research on each of them. I have my fingers crossed that this will be a go. I will make the mockups and look into GMK's color pallettes. I can pay someone to create some renders as well.
I may experiment with a few alterations in color from the original set just to try something new. Maybe a slightly darker gray? Although I feel that most people are interested in the original colorway.
No worries.
I think those colours seem quite balanced. Wouldn't change them unless you need to because of gmk's palette.
What about ISO languages? :)
Post by: Kings on Wed, 17 June 2020, 19:32:00
Post by: numiru on Thu, 18 June 2020, 12:06:11
What about ISO languages? :)
ISO support is definitely a yes. Still in the planning phase so we are going to come up with kits and pitch our ideas here. Feel free to input kits you'd like to see, keep in mind we can't make a kit for every single layout however.
Post by: numiru on Thu, 18 June 2020, 12:07:30
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 18 June 2020, 12:13:45
Post by: Motte on Thu, 18 June 2020, 12:52:17
What about ISO languages? :)
ISO support is definitely a yes. Still in the planning phase so we are going to come up with kits and pitch our ideas here. Feel free to input kits you'd like to see, keep in mind we can't make a kit for every single layout however.
I completely understand that you need to reach a certain MOQ. But I got a hunch that demand for ISO kits seemed a bit increased lately E.g. Tai-Hao Exotic Layout PBT sold through on drop: https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set. (very personal hunch though :) please correct me if I'm wrong). I think a NorDeUk Kit would be great.
Also, I'd like to see support for 75 layouts (like HMKB 75, Evolv or Satisfaction). They need R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn keys.
Post by: numiru on Thu, 18 June 2020, 13:03:13
I completely understand that you need to reach a certain MOQ. But I got a hunch that demand for ISO kits seemed a bit increased lately E.g. Tai-Hao Exotic Layout PBT sold through on drop: https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set. (very personal hunch though :) please correct me if I'm wrong). I think a NorDeUk Kit would be great.
Also, I'd like to see support for 75 layouts (like HMKB 75, Evolv or Satisfaction). They need R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn keys.
Would love to do a 65-75% kit and I like your ideas for not / de / uk layouts as well. Will take this into consideration
Post by: CrescentKick on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:37:09
Post by: numiru on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:48:13
These are awesome! it looks like you dropped them into the expensive stuff. Definitely interested
Thank you! It's currently in the works. Working with a vendor who is helping me design kits and put together the GB. Looking at some other sets for kits as well and have taken a few suggestions ITT.
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