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Title: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 06 August 2019, 02:43:17
Replacement PCBs and Plates for the TGR 910

Interest Check form here:  https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

I’m planning to run a small GB for TGR 910 PCBs and plates in a few weeks time. They should be compatible with all models of the 910 (OG, SE, CE, RE, etc…).

PCB designed by kacklappen23. QMK Firmware with support for the layouts in the diagram below. It supports all layouts found on the original 910 plate and PCB save for ISO and split shift. PCB also features horizontal and vertical relief cuts taken from the PCB design of OTD keyboards.

Plate is designed by me with the outline taken from the original 910 plate. Will edit for compatibility based on IC response before the GB.

PCBs will have an MOQ of 20 with a price break at 50. Production time will be around 1-2 months.

(https://i.imgur.com/hkcDpI1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/v2Za9im.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/zn8Oo29.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/l9QWpiU.png)



Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: itsundone on Tue, 06 August 2019, 02:49:45
Neat

can I add the case for an add-on? ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: PikaJoyce on Tue, 06 August 2019, 02:50:42
Neat

can I add the case for an add-on? ;D
LOL this.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: kevinplus on Tue, 06 August 2019, 02:59:33
nice
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: vonswoopington on Tue, 06 August 2019, 03:07:18
I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Tue, 06 August 2019, 04:26:27
This could not have come at a better time. I just purchased a 910 in the aftermarket. Hoping to have some options in the future if the PCB craps out.

What are the chances for a brass plate? Also, as a PCB noob - are there certain benefits to having a 1.6 vs 1.2mm PCB thickness?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 04:47:07
Def in for a pcb!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 August 2019, 07:02:19
Would be in for a couple of each. Would also like to suggest both 6.25u and 7u support. And good ol' aluminum plates. A single fixed color is fine. Like red, or grey, or black.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:35:33
I'd definitely love to pick up a couple PCBs. Got some plates coming in from Project Keyboard, but no PCBs to use with them, this would be perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:48:10
I'm in.

Is there support for blocker led as I prefer a frosted insert than the brass. Call me a Razer fanboi
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:07:12
In.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: mdlt97 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 10:23:21
damn no brass  :-[
Title: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: dsw_408 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 11:01:41
I’m in

+1 for aluminum plate option


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Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: dallman5 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 11:21:05
Filled out the form, though I’d like an option for aluminum if that’s possible.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: evorus5 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 21:50:55
Actually, would you ever consider doing another run of the 910?
Just got into this hobby and would love to pick up a 910 PC version.
Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 August 2019, 21:54:17
Actually, would you ever consider doing another run of the 910?
Just got into this hobby and would love to pick up a 910 PC version.
Thank you!

The OP does not produce the cases. Only TGR Keyboards does.

Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:44:22
Actually, would you ever consider doing another run of the 910?
Just got into this hobby and would love to pick up a 910 PC version.
Thank you!

The OP does not produce the cases. Only TGR Keyboards does.

TGR = yuktsi

bother him

but he said he won't, so you'll be doing a lot of bothering
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Tue, 06 August 2019, 23:40:09
Just received my glorious TGR 910 in the mail... and it has a bum PCB. This now HAS to happen. If we're on the button for MOQ, just PM me.

Also another +1 for aluminum or brass options for plate.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 06 August 2019, 23:52:43
Just put this up yesterday (I think) and interest looks good enough to start on the PCB side of things.

Though the PCB is a variant of one that has been produced and tested, I'll be ordering a sample before doing a production run to make sure that it works.

Also seems like there's some interest in Alu/Brass plates. I'm trying to keep the number of options down to get to a somewhat decent qty so that pricing is reasonable.

As a point of reference, PC plates will be $30-40 each at 10qty. Alu will most likely be a little more.

Edit: Right now, looking at the responses, I'm thinking of doing alu and poly plates with support for both 6.25 and 7u space with combo BS. PCB with in 1.2mm with a matte black soldermask.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 07 August 2019, 00:00:00
I'm in.

Is there support for blocker led as I prefer a frosted insert than the brass. Call me a Razer fanboi

PCB will not have support for blocker LED unfortunately
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 01:57:02
Re: Alu plate - thanks reconsiderit, that would be amazing.

Brass plate people keep speaking up!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Sissy on Wed, 07 August 2019, 01:58:38
I'm in.

Is there support for blocker led as I prefer a frosted insert than the brass. Call me a Razer fanboi

PCB will not have support for blocker LED unfortunately
damn.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 07 August 2019, 05:30:08
Haven't even thought about a blocker LED, since the plan was to keep the PCB as clean as possible.

Would you guys be more interested in a RGB LED or in a solid color one?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Sissy on Wed, 07 August 2019, 05:52:23
Haven't even thought about a blocker LED, since the plan was to keep the PCB as clean as possible.

Would you guys be more interested in a RGB LED or in a solid color one?
I like to change my LED with the keysets I use so RGB preferred.
Other than that underglow might also be worth considering for people who have the difuser/acrylic case.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: vtachkov on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:22:05
Haven't even thought about a blocker LED, since the plan was to keep the PCB as clean as possible.

Would you guys be more interested in a RGB LED or in a solid color one?
I like to change my LED with the keysets I use so RGB preferred.
Other than that underglow might also be worth considering for people who have the difuser/acrylic case.

+1 for the RGB LEDs.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:40:56
RGB LEDs under the PCB for sure. I thought the original PCBs had those too, no?

I'm fine with no LED in the blocker. I don't think people use that one anyway, or if they do not as many as the under LEDs.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:52:18
those relief cuts look very interesting!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:09:47
If the PCB has underglow LEDs I'm defintiely in. Without it I'm a bit on the fence; it'll probably come down to the price.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:25:06
Here for Exent, my understanding is these PCB's might fit...? Hoping someone might be able to confirm
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:27:29
Here for Exent, my understanding is these PCB's might fit...? Hoping someone might be able to confirm

From what I understand, the original Exent and 910 PCBs are interchangeable. (My 910 currently has a black Exent PCB.)

Not sure whether these will be.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 08 August 2019, 03:44:44
Here for Exent, my understanding is these PCB's might fit...? Hoping someone might be able to confirm

From what I understand, the original Exent and 910 PCBs are interchangeable. (My 910 currently has a black Exent PCB.)

Not sure whether these will be.

These are made to the exact same dimensions to the original quadcube PS2AVR PCB that was shipped with the 910. Should work, but I would double check with someone who has gone the other way and thrown a 910 PCB into an extent.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 08 August 2019, 03:53:05
If the PCB has underglow LEDs I'm defintiely in. Without it I'm a bit on the fence; it'll probably come down to the price.

Aiming at 35ish USD at 50qty. A little more at 30qty.

Going to get a quote with matte black silkscreen and some nice Hirose USB connectors and will report back with an estimated cost once I've crunched some numbers.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:20:10
Thanks reconsiderit, can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 08 August 2019, 16:41:45
I'm in.

Is there support for blocker led as I prefer a frosted insert than the brass. Call me a Razer fanboi

PCB will not have support for blocker LED unfortunately

Please reconsider it
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Thu, 08 August 2019, 16:48:39
I'm in.

Is there support for blocker led as I prefer a frosted insert than the brass. Call me a Razer fanboi

PCB will not have support for blocker LED unfortunately

Please reconsider it

UGH. I was going to write that but got sucked into a conversation irl and forgot.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 08 August 2019, 18:50:38
I'm in.

Is there support for blocker led as I prefer a frosted insert than the brass. Call me a Razer fanboi

PCB will not have support for blocker LED unfortunately

Please reconsider it

UGH. I was going to write that but got sucked into a conversation irl and forgot.

Just don't have a life,

ez.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: zekkin on Thu, 08 August 2019, 19:05:51
I'll pick up 2 plates and PCBs! Filled the form.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: brianjking on Thu, 08 August 2019, 20:39:28
I'd rather an RGB LED for the blocker and could care less if there are any LEDs for the bottom for side glow. One downside to the normal 910 & exent PCBs is I can't turn off the underglow/side glow LEDs while having the blocker LED lit up.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Thu, 08 August 2019, 22:28:15
Edit: Learning and catching up to the whole custom keyboard thing. BMC is just super buggy on mac computers, so I can't get my current 910 board to properly map.

Looking forward to being able to use QMK firmware on these new PCB boards. That stuff is lightyears ahead.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:42:12
So was talking to ai03 yesterday and he mentioned USB height for 1.2mm PCBs. Since the USB cutout on the 910 is designed for 1.6mm PCB, using a 1.2mm PCB will not work as the USB connector will sit .4mm higher than needed.

In short, these will be done in 1.6mm.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 August 2019, 18:27:22
So was talking to ai03 yesterday and he mentioned USB height for 1.2mm PCBs. Since the USB cutout on the 910 is designed for 1.6mm PCB, using a 1.2mm PCB will not work as the USB connector will sit .4mm higher than needed.

In short, these will be done in 1.6mm.

but how will i get my meme flex
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 09 August 2019, 18:38:40
So was talking to ai03 yesterday and he mentioned USB height for 1.2mm PCBs. Since the USB cutout on the 910 is designed for 1.6mm PCB, using a 1.2mm PCB will not work as the USB connector will sit .4mm higher than needed.

In short, these will be done in 1.6mm.

but how will i get my meme flex

From another standpoint, a DYI burger mount could lower the connector to the correct level.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Fri, 09 August 2019, 18:46:20
So was talking to ai03 yesterday and he mentioned USB height for 1.2mm PCBs. Since the USB cutout on the 910 is designed for 1.6mm PCB, using a 1.2mm PCB will not work as the USB connector will sit .4mm higher than needed.

In short, these will be done in 1.6mm.

but how will i get my meme flex

From another standpoint, a DYI burger mount could lower the connector to the correct level.

You shut your mouth, Evil Morty.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: noahf on Fri, 09 August 2019, 19:19:01
Im in for plate and pcb
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: bisoromi on Tue, 13 August 2019, 23:42:21
interested! Maybe I’ll design a case around this c:
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 14 August 2019, 02:18:49
interested! Maybe I’ll design a case around this c:

Yes, please!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 15 August 2019, 02:31:58
+ 1 for brass plate. All my 910s have brass plate. Good ole brass as plate material is always the OG classic.

In for a few pcbs as well. Thanks. Was more than excited when he sent me the link to your IC. Will watch this very closely.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 15 August 2019, 07:56:52
Filled in. Would love a real flexy thin pcb and pc plate with those cuts. Flexxx.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 15 August 2019, 08:05:54
We need a 910 case for this GB to be worthwhile.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 15 August 2019, 09:00:35
+ 1 for brass plate. All my 910s have brass plate. Good ole brass as plate material is always the OG classic.

In for a few pcbs as well. Thanks. Was more than excited when he sent me the link to your IC. Will watch this very closely.

Sure sure, you will watch it
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 15 August 2019, 12:09:05

Sure sure, you will watch it
shut up u fat hoe   :))
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:49:30
Any new updates on this?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 16 August 2019, 16:29:27
(https://i.imgur.com/KmGhjAp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IpSTi9c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/seorrF1.jpg)

So I pulled the 910 out yesterday and took a look at the USB port and it does look like there should be enough room for a 1.2mm PCB to fit. The main issue is the cable as the USB tunnel for the 910 is on the smaller side. The cable pictured is just a simple sleeved cable but anything larger would probably have fitment issues with 1.2

Last picture are calipers opened to 0.45mm. It's on the same focus plane as the USB port to give you guys an idea of how much room you'd be working with.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: gxtcha on Sat, 17 August 2019, 10:52:06
Apologies if I missed this but will the USB port be updated to USB-C?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: 1391401 on Sun, 18 August 2019, 21:23:13
dumb question - whats the point of the slits cut in the pcb?  I see that on the Polaris too
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 August 2019, 21:38:58
dumb question - whats the point of the slits cut in the pcb?  I see that on the Polaris too

"adds flex"
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 17:36:50
Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: otanishock on Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:44:20
Good call. I took a look at the pcb and I think right now the Unikorn 1.2 pcb just sits right on top of the brass weight/bottom case with very little gap in between. Anything thicker than 1.2mm 1.6 mm you will probably run into risk of hitting against the bottom case.

EDIT: Sorry I didn't realize it was actually 1.6mm. Thanks Lightning for pointing out.

(https://i.imgur.com/9y0vQkg.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:57:31
IIRC the TGR-910 PCB is called TGR-Unicorn v1.2 (with a C) and is 1.6mm, the standard thickness, so otanishock probably meant anything thicker than 1.6mm would have issues.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: otanishock on Mon, 19 August 2019, 23:05:46
IIRC the TGR-910 PCB is called TGR-Unicorn v1.2 (with a C) and is 1.6mm, the standard thickness, so otanishock probably meant anything thicker than 1.6mm would have issues.
You are absolutely right. Sorry I was mistaken. Thanks for pointing out.

(https://i.imgur.com/D5qE6RD.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Thu, 22 August 2019, 02:18:57
+1 on timeline, so ready for this.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 22 August 2019, 02:56:27
Apologies if I missed this but will the USB port be updated to USB-C?

Will not. USB-C doesn't fit the 910 USB tunnel.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 22 August 2019, 03:33:17
Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

Targeting late next week. Need to do some CAD work on the plate. Looks like most people want a universal plate.

Will also be doing either a brass option on top of Polycarb and maybe FR4.

GB should be open for two weeks or so and production will take about two months at most. Cutting anodizing out of the process saves a ton of time.

New IC with updated options: https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: rora on Thu, 22 August 2019, 04:39:05
Excited for this! Thanks! : )

Filled out the form.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 22 August 2019, 11:17:30
Next week? Sounds nice.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Sun, 25 August 2019, 13:57:39
Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

Targeting late next week. Need to do some CAD work on the plate. Looks like most people want a universal plate.

Will also be doing either a brass option on top of Polycarb and maybe FR4.

GB should be open for two weeks or so and production will take about two months at most. Cutting anodizing out of the process saves a ton of time.

New IC with updated options: https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

YES! Crossing my fingers on the brass.

After looking at the new IC Form - does anyone know if the original 910 plate was considered uncoated or coated brass?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: smittysteve on Sun, 25 August 2019, 18:34:21
Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

Targeting late next week. Need to do some CAD work on the plate. Looks like most people want a universal plate.

Will also be doing either a brass option on top of Polycarb and maybe FR4.

GB should be open for two weeks or so and production will take about two months at most. Cutting anodizing out of the process saves a ton of time.

New IC with updated options: https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

YES! Crossing my fingers on the brass.

After looking at the new IC Form - does anyone know if the original 910 plate was considered uncoated or coated brass?

Original plates are sandblasted brass.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: gxtcha on Wed, 04 September 2019, 21:52:42
Is this still happening?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Thu, 05 September 2019, 22:00:41
bump for visibility - hoping this is still happening too
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 06 September 2019, 21:55:56
 ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 19 September 2019, 00:46:01
^-^

Still happening, but am ordering PCBs in 1.2 and 1.6 right now for proto. Will also finish my SP65 GB before I start this
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: gxtcha on Sat, 21 September 2019, 10:07:50
Awesome! Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Sat, 21 September 2019, 21:04:32
Thank you
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: fleeceman on Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:27:41
I am interested!

Edit: Oh ansi only? No chance of an iso version?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: alexfry on Mon, 30 September 2019, 23:44:37
I need this badly.
I think I just borked the PCB in my EXENT.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: rclewright on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:02:14
Does anyone know if the pcb will be compatible with the kyuu?

Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: vegs on Thu, 03 October 2019, 04:25:09
I am interested!

Edit: Oh ansi only? No chance of an iso version?
+1, iso version would be great.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: zekkin on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:43:44
Does anyone know if the pcb will be compatible with the kyuu?

Thank you!

It will not, I'm pretty sure the compatibility for this is only for the 910 and EXENT.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: alexfry on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:42:35
Actually is this compatible with the EXENT?

I understand the originals were identical between the two boards, but this seems to be missing the key on the top right and has a gap on the bottom row on the right. (Based on the renders on page 1).

Is it possible to support both boards? The EXENT community is badly in need of replacement PCBs.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:47:04
Actually is this compatible with the EXENT?

I understand the originals were identical between the two boards, but this seems to be missing the key on the top right and has a gap on the bottom row on the right. (Based on the renders on page 1).

Is it possible to support both boards? The EXENT community is badly in need of replacement PCBs.

If it has any value, the original 910 PCB has a slot of a switch in the blocker but it's not used.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: alexfry on Sun, 06 October 2019, 20:47:33
]

If it has any value, the original 910 PCB has a slot of a switch in the blocker but it's not used.

According to this  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2799758#msg2799758 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2799758#msg2799758) post by quadcube, the original 910 and EXENT PCBs are the same “electrical and mechanical” design, but the same does not appear to be true of this replacement design.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: fruitofconfusion on Sun, 06 October 2019, 23:42:23
If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:37:11
If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

At the moment, this has no compat for the key under the 910 blocker. Extent has a key there.

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: vegs on Tue, 08 October 2019, 07:52:58
If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

At the moment, this has no compat for the key under the 910 blocker. Extent has a key there.

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
I recently got a 910 RE which came with an original 910 plate and a Exent PCB. I had no issues building it.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 08 October 2019, 10:29:10
If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

At the moment, this has no compat for the key under the 910 blocker. Extent has a key there.

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
I recently got a 910 RE which came with an original 910 plate and a Exent PCB. I had no issues building it.
This was the case for me as well.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:35:40

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
If you want to make it Exent-compatible, my instinct is that you have to rework the bottom row too. Right now you have blank space for the half u blocker to the left of the arrow cluster which Exent does not have.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:38:19

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
If you want to make it Exent-compatible, my instinct is that you have to rework the bottom row too. Right now you have blank space for the half u blocker to the left of the arrow cluster which Exent does not have.

This is probably right - from how I see it on the pic in the OP, the current state of the PCB accounts for a right-side 0.5u blocker, but not for an unblocked bottom row. So that'd have to change in addition to the top right corner key.

Dimension-wise, however, it does look like the EXENT PCB fits the 910, so the reverse might be applicable as well.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:31:26
If you want to make it Exent-compatible, my instinct is that you have to rework the bottom row too. Right now you have blank space for the half u blocker to the left of the arrow cluster which Exent does not have.

As an EXENT owner following this thread, that is definitely an issue that goes through my mind. For me personally that 0.5 U blocker is actually a bigger issue than the top right key. I think it would be easy to find something that visually replaces that corner, but finding/rigging something to visually replace the 0.5 U blocker a the bottom will take some work.

To me though all of that is just visual issues that I'm willing to work around. As long as the PCB fits in the case and plays nicely with most of the switch plate I'll be happy. And from what I can tell the TGR 910 PCB should meet those two criteria. I'll willing to buy one and see, at least.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: alexfry on Sat, 12 October 2019, 03:14:03
I know this could be seen as a bit of a rude thread derail (apologies reconsiderit), but for the EXENT crowd, I feel I should mention that there is now a GB up for a re-run of EXENT PCBs by quadcube.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102878.0

Should mean there is less of a need for sourcing odd spacers for us EXENT people, and less of a demand for adding complexity to a 910 specific board as is being discussed here.

(Again, sorry if this is out of line)
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 13 October 2019, 01:19:42
If its going to be reworked, I'll ask the designer to add the non-blocked bottom row compatibility. There's not a horrible much amount of complexity in there as there aren't any conflicting key positions between the two boards. If I've correctly looked things over, the PCB should be able to accommodate both the 910 bottom rows and all the extent bottom row options
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: liangalv on Sun, 13 October 2019, 15:27:47
Any plans for alternative plate materials?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: vegs on Sun, 10 November 2019, 12:04:40
Any news? :)
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Mon, 16 December 2019, 17:03:01
Any news? :)
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 25 December 2019, 04:15:01
Shipping out the last Southpaw 65 boards this week and am working on getting southpaw full size redone and sorted out.

Should be running it in January along with Jubi. Delivery most likely after CNY.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Thu, 02 January 2020, 19:43:02
Yess!!!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: vegs on Fri, 03 January 2020, 00:30:30
Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: CherryTeam on Fri, 03 January 2020, 01:19:48
Very nice bro ! GL :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 08 January 2020, 04:02:56
Going to be finalizing plate files and checking things over this week.

GB most likely next week or the week after.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:32:39
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 10 January 2020, 07:42:25
Going to be finalizing plate files and checking things over this week.

GB most likely next week or the week after.
Hype. Can't wait for a poly plate and extra PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 10 January 2020, 08:12:35
Going to be finalizing plate files and checking things over this week.

GB most likely next week or the week after.
Hype. Can't wait for a poly plate and extra PCB.

Same same. It's about time my 910s got some fresh guts.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 15 January 2020, 03:40:26
Going to proto before running the GB. Got the files today and sending them to JLC tonight. Should get them soonish to confirm everything works
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: romevi on Fri, 17 January 2020, 00:28:43
Going to proto before running the GB. Got the files today and sending them to JLC tonight. Should get them soonish to confirm everything works

(https://i.imgur.com/iFn4py9.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:07:25
Small delay on the proto. CNY Extended a week as many of you guys know. Proto should be in my hands about mid February
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 31 January 2020, 22:07:17
Will you provide half plate as well?
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 01 February 2020, 21:29:55
Will you provide half plate as well?
From the responses I've gathered from both the forms, I'll most likely be doing a poly full plate and a coated full brass plate.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 24 February 2020, 19:29:41
PCBs are finally headed to me. Should be able to test them and get the GB set up by the end of next week.

(https://i.imgur.com/sR9U4jq.png)

Edit: I'll also have 4 extras from the proto run available immediately (if they work) if anyone is in dire need of one of these.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: lamenthe on Fri, 03 April 2020, 01:17:00
If it's not too late I'd love to grab one of those proto boards. My current 910 has been out of commission for a few months due to a dead board. Let me know if there's one available! I'm still in for the group buy either way.
Title: Re: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 10 April 2020, 15:00:38
great