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Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 00:39:10
~Orion TKL Group Buy~

(http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/image/231F934952DA5F991DC025)

ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1AwEtJw-HdgehYAyPi7Vgyk3oMtpr1hrK74KjRvvsv28/viewform)  <---- Click here to order

Included in this set:
Aluminium housing (Aluminum 6061) in black, silver, or gray.
MX Reinforcement plate (STS-304 1.5T)
PCB presoldered with MX only support
Fixing bolts

Info:
Full keymapping
Supports MX switches
Up to 12 Macro keys
You can choose a different colour for the bottom half of the case.
Full LED and side LED compatible.  Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Winkey and winkeyless, short right shift key, and center caps lock support
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale.

Pictures: here (http://duck0113.tistory.com/80)

Price:
Set: $400 USD
PCB: $43 USD
PCB Plate: $31 USD

Shipping

Shipping will be shipped from South Korea with EMS.  Shipping cost will depend on your location.  Each set weighs about 3.26 kg with packaging, so you will be looking at row 3.5 kg.Click here to check your zone (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53348.msg1191127#msg1191127) and Click here to check their updated prices (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300)

Notes

- Deadline for order is March 28, 2014.
- Order if ONLY you can pay the invoice by the deadline.
- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed. So please put your order in before it's too late ;)
- I will send invoice through Paypal to everyone, so you need a verified Paypal account to receive, and to pay. Also please check the information carefully before submitting your order. There will be Paypal fees added to the price.
- If you want to make changes to your order, please send me a PM.

ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1AwEtJw-HdgehYAyPi7Vgyk3oMtpr1hrK74KjRvvsv28/viewform)  <---- Click here to order
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 00:45:11
Orders:

Sets: 13
PCBs: 3
Plates: 3


Also for those interested, here are the acrylic plate and insert drawings.

acrylic plate: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172
acrylic side inserts: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=460
                             http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=502

You can download the attachments near the bottom of their post
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:13:42
Good group buy. Can you go to sell only PCB?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:21:53
EDIT: I should read more gooder.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:23:17
Looks like the case colors are mislabeled

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/h547d5S.jpg)


How so?  You can mix and match.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:23:18
Good group buy. Can you go to sell only PCB?

I'll confirm with TC.

Looks like the case colors are mislabeled


What do you mean?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:27:23
Good group buy. Can you go to sell only PCB?

I'll confirm with TC.

Looks like the case colors are mislabeled


What do you mean?
Looks like the case colors are mislabeled

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/h547d5S.jpg)


How so?  You can mix and match.


Ohhhh I get it.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:28:42
Those are for the bottoms.  "Choose bottom colour as well".  It's a 2-part case: top + bottom.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:31:09
Those are for the bottoms.  "Choose bottom colour as well".  It's a 2-part case: top + bottom.

Got there in the end. Thanks and apologies!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:33:21
So these are basically lightsaver 2.0? How do they compare?

They look incredibly nice regardless o.o
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:34:20
Oh boy, I am really tempted to pull the trigger on this one, but 400$ plus international shipping plus import taxes is tough.

But just like the Lightsaver this board only comes in the angled version right? I prefer to use my keyboards flat on the table...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ebacho on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:35:35
So these are basically lightsaver 2.0? How do they compare?

They look incredibly nice regardless o.o


It's a normal layout 80% TKL, whereas the Lightsaver had much more flexibility in layout options.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:39:00
Oh boy, I am really tempted to pull the trigger on this one, but 400$ plus international shipping plus import taxes is tough.

But just like the Lightsaver this board only comes in the angled version right? I prefer to use my keyboards flat on the table...

Yeah, it's 11 degrees slanted.  Well, you can use the top part of the case and make yourself a flat acrylic bottom like in their pictures without the stand.  You'd have to buy the whole set though which would be a waste of money..

Also, if there are more than 15 sets ordered, price will drop to $385.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:41:43
Will there eventually be a group buy for the 60% keyboards that are from this same family?

Also, on topic, this is beautiful and quite tempting...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:44:14
Will there eventually be a group buy for the 60% keyboards that are from this same family?

Also, on topic, this is beautiful and quite tempting...

If you mean Viper and Eagle, maybe.  If they ask, I'd probably do it..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:45:46
Will there eventually be a group buy for the 60% keyboards that are from this same family?

Also, on topic, this is beautiful and quite tempting...
+1 go to 60% keyboard :)

Will there eventually be a group buy for the 60% keyboards that are from this same family?

Also, on topic, this is beautiful and quite tempting...

If you mean Viper and Eagle, maybe.  If they ask, I'd probably do it..

Good info. I hope you can after this group buy :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ebacho on Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:55:08
To be honest the 60%s are more appealing to me, but given the opportunity I'll probably pick up both.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 05 March 2014, 05:16:54
Do you have any more pics?

Edit:nvm
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 March 2014, 05:20:15
Do you have any more pics?

Did you see the link "Pics" in the OP?

There are like 20 extra pics of the details.


Edit:   You realized it yourself :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: justnits on Wed, 05 March 2014, 05:48:33
do u have the acrylic piece design?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 05 March 2014, 06:42:58
The butterfly keypad is lovely and this looks amazing as well. 

If a Viper buy materializes, I'll have to jump in in that. 

Nice work again Elton!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 09:34:20
An update..

1. PCB alone will cost $43

I'll find out about the acrylic plate drawing.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:00:51
An update..

1. PCB alone will cost $43

I'll find out about the acrylic plate drawing.
Very Greatttttttttttttt :D You 'll change form with option PCB?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:01:39
11degrees. The perfect angle. I want one..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:27:49
I was actually worried about the 11-degree angle, as I love the flat profile of a Filco without its feet extended, but in practice it turned out to be a pleasant angle, and I have no issues with it.  At least for the Lightsaver, the front of the case is quite low--this one might be better with a wrist rest.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:36:03
"Deadline for order is TBD". I don't understand :( What does the mean"TBD" ?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:36:44
"Deadline for order is TBD". I don't understand :( What does the mean"TBD" ?

To Be Determined
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:40:01
"Deadline for order is TBD". I don't understand :( What does the mean"TBD" ?

To Be Determined
OK thanks :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:54:17
Added PCB only option on the form..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:04:08
Definitely want the acrylic piece! As well, this is just barebones, so I'm assuming no LED customization apart from the base red?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:18:06
Definitely want the acrylic piece! As well, this is just barebones, so I'm assuming no LED customization apart from the base red?
i think you can change the LED under pcb by yourself, they dont accept order for change color or acrylic part
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:19:38

Definitely want the acrylic piece! As well, this is just barebones, so I'm assuming no LED customization apart from the base red?
i think you can change the LED under pcb by yourself, they dont accept order for change color or acrylic part

Yeah, figured. Any chance we can get someone to do the soldering, for a price? I'm just a newb :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:37:32
No acrylic insert? :'(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:40:28
Will there eventually be a group buy for the 60% keyboards that are from this same family?

Also, on topic, this is beautiful and quite tempting...

If you mean Viper and Eagle, maybe.  If they ask, I'd probably do it..

Yep, those are the ones I'm referring to.  If that happens I can almost guarantee I'll participate.  :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:49:55
I was actually worried about the 11-degree angle, as I love the flat profile of a Filco without its feet extended, but in practice it turned out to be a pleasant angle, and I have no issues with it.  At least for the Lightsaver, the front of the case is quite low--this one might be better with a wrist rest.

So 11 degrees is lower than a Filco with extended feet? Maybe I can live with it too  ;D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:02:51
I was actually worried about the 11-degree angle, as I love the flat profile of a Filco without its feet extended, but in practice it turned out to be a pleasant angle, and I have no issues with it.  At least for the Lightsaver, the front of the case is quite low--this one might be better with a wrist rest.

So 11 degrees is lower than a Filco with extended feet? Maybe I can live with it too  ;D

No it's almost exactly the tilt of Filco with extended feet.  I just meant that I worried it would be uncomfortable with the Lightsaver, but it's actually fine.  I've also adjusted my chair for better posture and it's taller now, so that made it less important what angle my keyboard is at too.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:50:50
elton gimme one of them things I want

Will TC visit toronto again? :( I've already bought so much stuff from Korea EMS is destroying me
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Wed, 05 March 2014, 16:43:18
Wow. I really love that case. But I was already planning on dropping the big bucks on an FMJ case and poker 2. Hmmm. Decisions, decisions. If this is still open when I get my tax refund...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 17:34:41
elton gimme one of them things I want

Will TC visit toronto again? :( I've already bought so much stuff from Korea EMS is destroying me

He lives in Toronto. ;)  I've met with him several times.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 17:57:34
Liquid.TC?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 05 March 2014, 18:00:40
Viper group buy please...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 18:25:05
I've been told he'll hold a group buy for the 60% in a month or so for the Koreans. Maybe it will be around that time for us?

Who knows, on the other thread someone said they need to reach 100 MOQ...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 05 March 2014, 18:46:29
I've been told he'll hold a group buy for the 60% in a month or so for the Koreans. Maybe it will be around that time for us?

Who knows, on the other thread someone said they need to reach 100 MOQ...

100 MOQ for a 60% board is hard to reach I guess. A lot of people have multiple 60% boards now. Anyway, thanks for the info. What is "the other thread"?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: moogle on Wed, 05 March 2014, 18:48:49
I've been told he'll hold a group buy for the 60% in a month or so for the Koreans. Maybe it will be around that time for us?

Who knows, on the other thread someone said they need to reach 100 MOQ...

100 MOQ for a 60% board is hard to reach I guess. A lot of people have multiple 60% boards now. Anyway, thanks for the info. What is "the other thread"?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55427.msg1246435#msg1246435
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:06:18
Maybe if I stopped spending money on keycaps that cost 2/5 of my keyboards then I could afford to buy one.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:05:53
Deadline is updated.  Will end in about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:15:31
Hey Elton

Do you have a rough estimate of when production and shipping will happen? I may have to eventually change my shipping address based on when the boards are ready.

Thanks for any help  :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:20:18
Hey Elton

Do you have a rough estimate of when production and shipping will happen? I may have to eventually change my shipping address based on when the boards are ready.

Thanks for any help  :)

The deadline should correspond to the finished product of Orion. Give or take a week or 2 for them to pack and ship them.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:21:46
Wow that is so fast (compared to certain group buys ..)! Thanks for the info  ;D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:38:05
Also, if there are more than 15 sets ordered, price will drop to $385.

Closing in on 15?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:57:34
oh my gawd.... I've saved for lightsaver 2 and this pops up... grrrrrr....


Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 07 March 2014, 11:20:15

Also, if there are more than 15 sets ordered, price will drop to $385.

Closing in on 15?

Nope..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Fri, 07 March 2014, 12:14:19
Any chances to bundle a set of stabilizers?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 07 March 2014, 12:26:59
Does this come preassembled or do I have to solder my switches?
Got clears?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:15:17
It's definitely unassembled
I think we just gotta find our own switches and pcb mount cherry stabs
And anyone got tips as to where to buy square LEDs? Mouser?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:16:00
It's definitely unassembled
I think we just gotta find our own switches and pcb mount cherry stabs
And anyone got tips as to where to buy square LEDs? Mouser?

Never had a problem getting the 2x3x4mm LEDs off eBay
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:19:27
Alright, thanks^^
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:20:16
I WANT ONE

Let's hope I can pay for it in time !
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 07 March 2014, 14:38:56
I'm also including PCB Plate alone now. It'll cost the same as on kbd4u webstore.

Stabilizers won't be for sale nor would assembly.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Fri, 07 March 2014, 17:41:05
There's a software to program it?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 07 March 2014, 19:25:26
There's a software to program it?

Of course!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Sat, 08 March 2014, 06:56:01
Is there a MOQ? Or just a decrease in price with orders over 15.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 10:22:07

Is there a MOQ? Or just a decrease in price with orders over 15.
Just a decrease in price
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: korrelate on Sat, 08 March 2014, 11:46:19
Some more specs on the PCB and Plate>

1. What controller is the PCB using?
2. Are the "flood" LEDS... i.e. the LEDs being used to illuminate the bottom exterior of the housing... are those SMD?
3. does the plate support switch mods?

And then concerning the manufacturer: "DUCK" is written all over this stuff... is this being produced/designed by the same people who make Ducky Keyboards?


Cheers,

K
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 08 March 2014, 11:54:33
AFAIK, they should be SMD LEDs since they are on the Lightsaver and Butterfly Pad.

Duck =/= Ducky.  Duck is just the name, kind of like KMAC, LifeZone (LZ), FMJ (Feng), and so on.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 08 March 2014, 11:57:35
Some more specs on the PCB and Plate>

1. What controller is the PCB using?
2. Are the "flood" LEDS... i.e. the LEDs being used to illuminate the bottom exterior of the housing... are those SMD?
3. does the plate support switch mods?

And then concerning the manufacturer: "DUCK" is written all over this stuff... is this being produced/designed by the same people who make Ducky Keyboards?


Cheers,

K

1. ATMega 32U4 for the LightSaver--unsure about this, but some reference.

2. SMD LEDs for the side, see this thread for info:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942

3. No, at least not for the LightSaver.  You need to assemble your switches fully before inserting them into the plate, or you won't be able to close the top.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: DraJin on Sun, 09 March 2014, 05:57:13
ORION custom keyboard LED effect

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 09 March 2014, 13:57:06
ORION custom keyboard LED effect


I need this
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:02:59
So far there are only 4 ordered.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:03:54
I would if I had money to spend!  *Unhelpful reply* :(  Maybe a Viper!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:38:05
I'd order this if the acrylic piece were available!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:41:16
I've been told he'll hold a group buy for the 60% in a month or so for the Koreans. Maybe it will be around that time for us?

Who knows, on the other thread someone said they need to reach 100 MOQ...

That would be sweet
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:01:50
I'd order this if the acrylic piece were available!

Just order, and if elton can get his hands on the design for the acrylic piece, just find some local company to make it for you :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:52:00
I'd order this if the acrylic piece were available!

Just order, and if elton can get his hands on the design for the acrylic piece, just find some local company to make it for you :P

I'd be up for that.  Elton, can you do this?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:56:11
I can do that for sure. I've already asked last week, I think he just forgot to send me the file.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 09 March 2014, 18:05:26
I'm in! Placed an order with an extra PCB+plate too. 

I also contacted originative regarding the original light saver, if anyone knows how to acquire one of those, please let me know :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Mon, 10 March 2014, 01:11:03
oops, still noone in paid list >.<
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 10 March 2014, 06:49:53

oops, still noone in paid list >.<

I haven't invoiced anyone yet. ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: DraJin on Mon, 10 March 2014, 19:42:12
Orion, Lightsaver Keymapping & S/W _ Custom Firmware  [Continuously updated]

LED Effect and Control

4 (user layer) +3 (function layer) layer

Up to 50 characters can be stored,

14 (General) +1 (Normal / Repeat) of hardware macros

Up to 255 characters can be set,

20 software macro (Classification by input method)

Multi-Function key (MFN key) support

Key Lock (Key Lock) function

Hotkeys (Hot Key) skin layer support

Free position setting (FN key)

Mac-only function keys

Key input function (intended)

The user can set the debounce

1000Hz polling rate

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=100301&mid=board_sw


Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 10 March 2014, 21:36:13
Another amazing keyboard by duck.

I wish I had the funds for this beauty, hopefully I'll be able to pick up the viper.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 10 March 2014, 21:48:07
Orion, Lightsaver Keymapping & S/W _ Custom Firmware  [Continuously updated]

LED Effect and Control

4 (user layer) +3 (function layer) layer

Up to 50 characters can be stored,

14 (General) +1 (Normal / Repeat) of hardware macros

Up to 255 characters can be set,

20 software macro (Classification by input method)

Multi-Function key (MFN key) support

Key Lock (Key Lock) function

Hotkeys (Hot Key) skin layer support

Free position setting (FN key)

Mac-only function keys

Key input function (intended)

The user can set the debounce

1000Hz polling rate

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=100301&mid=board_sw

Is there any chance someone will translate that page to English eventually?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Wed, 12 March 2014, 04:18:08
Will this group buy still go with only 4 - 5 orders?
Will this do alps and if so can we get a plate or a copy of the cad drawing for a plate?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 05:49:16
Yeah, probably. I was never told there will be a min. order.

This supports MX only
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Paranoid on Wed, 12 March 2014, 08:45:40
Well that's a really awesome board. It has a very clean and detailed finish. The price is really over the top though considering it's without acrylic stuff, switches, caps, etc. I understand that this stuff isn't cheap and fully custom designed but that's not hobby-range for me anymore ^^ Also the keyboard angle is way too high for me.
Anyways, nice job! GLWGB!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:33:47
Same price of KMAC2 and less than an LZ-FE, much more than a GON or a Kaliet, the absence of the acrylic piece is really disappointing. But really a beautiful kb
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Wed, 12 March 2014, 10:42:28
this is a full aluminium TKL housing, so you can't compare this with other housing which use different housing
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:40:07
Differences are clear to everyone in this forum, i think
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:30:17
Differences are clear to everyone in this forum, i think

I don't. Please enlighten me
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:35:48
I think they mean that it's clear why the price is at the level it is, and it's not more expensive than equivalent kits--perhaps even less considering all the features.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:50:54
Differences are clear to everyone in this forum, i think

I don't. Please enlighten me

I mean that the quality of materials and the high level of craftsmanship of those "top" keyboards can be seen even from the photos and it's been reported vastly around here
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:54:24
I have to admit, the wording is pretty vague.  It's still unclear if you're including this keyboard into your "top" list or not :)  Anyway, seeing as I own a LightSaver (typing on it right now), I can attest to the great quality of Duck's work.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:17:32
sorry my english not good, maybe i use wrong words . :-[
cnc machining cost more to make detailed and neat finish, someone told me like that
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:21:35
I have to admit, the wording is pretty vague.  It's still unclear if you're including this keyboard into your "top" list or not :)  Anyway, seeing as I own a LightSaver (typing on it right now), I can attest to the great quality of Duck's work.

Hey Photoelectric,

is there an album of your Lightsaver? I'd love to see what you build!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:26:25
Yup!  Media thread here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0) and a flickr album here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoelectric_effect/sets/72157640117516876/).  It's got SIP sockets in every switch, and I've been meaning to settle on a final color combination, but been too busy.  The magenta and teal LEDs are getting taken out for sure.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:29:35
Yup!  Media thread here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0) and a flickr album here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoelectric_effect/sets/72157640117516876/).  It's got SIP sockets in every switch, and I've been meaning to settle on a final color combination, but been too busy.  The magenta and teal LEDs are getting taken out for sure.

Killer!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:36:32
Very nice!

The Lightsaver was actually a pretty good deal considering how much the Orion costs shipped.

Not really sure what justifies the 100$ difference.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:38:02
The LightSaver just has the bottom "tray" of a case.  The Orion has a top aluminum cover, which means more aluminum, more machining, more finishing, anodizing, inspection, tc.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:27:59
Does anyone know if the PCB will fit in a KMAC2? I see that it's been designed by the same person for the KMAC 1.4 PCB...I know that I'll need to trim the bottom of the PCB though O_O.

Edit, the left side of the PCB where the ESC key looks too wide...visually.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Thu, 13 March 2014, 02:04:36
i can't believe i stumbled into this thread... another awesome custom keyboard gb!

duck keeps on churning out beautiful cases and elton keeps holding gb for them
i want to join, my wallet wants to cry... but it's bone dry  :))

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:43:31
I'm undecided on color, silver on grey, black on grey or all grey.
The grey in http://duck0113.tistory.com/80 seems different from the grey of the Viper in http://duck0113.tistory.com/81
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: justnits on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:16:07
i'm wondering, do we get to choose what colours for the smd led?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 12:05:13
The default is red LED.  No colour choices, sorry.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: justnits on Sat, 15 March 2014, 07:33:27
anyway i submitted order.
do check if it's there :) thanks!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 13:48:16
anyway i submitted order.
do check if it's there :) thanks!

I got it, no worries :)

I'm going to start invoicing later today.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:34:14
This is really tempting, a seriously sexy board

I wonder what a full black one looks like..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:40:50
This is really tempting, a seriously sexy board

I wonder what a full black one looks like..

You can see it here:  http://duck0113.tistory.com/86
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:42:59
This is really tempting, a seriously sexy board

I wonder what a full black one looks like..

You can see it here:  http://duck0113.tistory.com/86

Thanks. Now I'd have to decide between all black or all silver....certainly a sexy board :)

I also just remembered I owe you a photo  :))
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:44:46
Have you seen this?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=133968&mid=board_Lsno50
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:45:16
Have you seen this?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=133968&mid=board_Lsno50

Theres an 'ergoduck' thread already  :))
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 21:07:21
Invoices sent. 

You can still send in orders, of course. :)

These are really heavy after packing, about 3.29 KG.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 16 March 2014, 21:10:35
Thanks for organizing this ^^
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 21:13:14
Thank you! Paid!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Sun, 16 March 2014, 21:59:05
Thank you for organizing this. Paid.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: justnits on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:10:00
is anyone planning to design acrylic case and plate for this?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:19:16
is anyone planning to design acrylic case and plate for this?

It looks like a typical TKL with the 1.5x1x1.5x7x setup, so I'd assume they work with current plates and cases designed for those layouts
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:34:46
Wow that thing is pretty.  I need to poke around on the GB threads more...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:36:12
So all I need to get now is switches, stabilizers, and potentially LEDs for key backlighting (do I need resistors too?).  Naive question, but what LEDs are compatible?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: justnits on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:39:44
So all I need to get now is switches, stabilizers, and potentially LEDs for key backlighting (do I need resistors too?).  Naive question, but what LEDs are compatible?

i'm unsure about resistors. but i strongly believe they should be there already.
as for LED...3mm led (round head) or 2x3x4 led (square).
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:46:52
So all I need to get now is switches, stabilizers, and potentially LEDs for key backlighting (do I need resistors too?).  Naive question, but what LEDs are compatible?

Resistors are pre-soldered already.  I'm pretty sure the resistors are the same as the ones from lightsaver, butterfly, etc.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: lotus1109 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 23:50:47
I wonder is anyone trying to design a casing for this orion pcb?
I believe this pcb on a matte clear arylic casing is a kill :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:23:49
Ordered Silver top with black base.  Think that will look nice?
Pretty sure I want silver, not sure of the base though.

Edit: I'm thinking it will be too much of a contrast.  I'm going to switch to silver with gray base.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:35:10
Ordered Silver top with black base.  Think that will look nice?
Pretty sure I want silver, not sure of the base though.

Edit: I'm thinking it will be too much of a contrast.  I'm going to switch to silver with gray base.

Sure, I'll update it.  You did the order form right btw.  The PCB and plate are extra orders.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: lotus1109 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 06:06:24
Hi elton,
sorry if this question was answered but I couldn't find it :X
may I know is this orion's plate universal which means applicable to other pcb as well (eg A87)?
it does support 86 and 87 layout right?

thanks!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JizzGus on Mon, 17 March 2014, 06:18:23
any chance we can see what a full grey one looks like? as mentioned previously the grey in the pictures look different to the grey in the viper pictures so i was wondering if we can get clarification as to which grey it would be.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 10:13:17
You can have it winkey (87 keys) or winkeyless (86 keys). I don't know if it fits other PCBs....

I'll try to ask for some pictures of a full gray case
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 17 March 2014, 12:46:29
WK/WKL: http://duck0113.tistory.com/87

I think gray is the same as for the Viper (looks bluish in most photos)

(http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/original/2731B63352E50B8C08AB56)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 12:56:39
WK/WKL: http://duck0113.tistory.com/87

I think gray is the same as for the Viper (looks bluish in most photos)

Show Image
(http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/original/2731B63352E50B8C08AB56)



I believe the grey we're looking for is this one below, if I'm not mistaken. And that viper picture's grey might just be due to the lighting in the room.

If it's not, I wouldn't fret too much, just tell elton that you want a different colour
(http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/image/2620664E52DA5F9B0A6010)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: lotus1109 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 13:35:36
thanks for clarification about the plate layout :D
now I am thinking whether I should buy the pcb + plate alone and get a acrylic casing... afraid that the plate need special mounting
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 17 March 2014, 15:36:58
I'd go for full silver, and probably end up anodizing it purple anyway to make my unit 01 board ;)

If I do decide to pull the trigger and order it'll be last minute :X
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 17 March 2014, 15:53:19
Hey, sorry, one more question before I pony up.  What is the production schedule?  I don't see that in the OP.  thanks
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:10:00
I've been told it would be ready sometime next week or about 2 weeks after I started this group buy.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:23:12
Wow, certainly didn't expect that.  I figured you'd say, like, June.
thanks
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:30:07
Same, very happy to hear it's so soon.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:46:25
When are orders closing then? ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:47:41
When are orders closing then? ;)

That's in the OP. This week.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:16:06
Seems like Korea Post raised their rates since Butterfly group buy.  I was using their old chart, oh well. I'll be using the new chart from now on for new invoices.  It's only a couple dollars difference anyways.

http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:41:14
And about the gray for Orion, it's different from Viper/Eagle's bluish gray.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:52:38
Man. And shipping to the US is already so killer. Are we remotely close to a North American proxy making sense?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:58:06
Currently there are 5 US orders. I can ship them together.

2 Orions are about 5.5-6kg, so 5 Orions would be around 15kg which is about $152 USD (161,700 WON)

Add about 3kg for each additional Orion set.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:58:55
Currently there are 5 US orders. I can ship them together.

2 Orions are about 5.5-6kg, so 5 Orions would be around 15kg which is about $152 USD (161,700 WON)

Add about 3kg for each additional Orion set.

Based on those numbers it doesn't seem like proxying would save each individual much more than $10-$15. ($152 / 5 -> 30.40 + $18 flat rate worst case = $48.40 instead of ~$61)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:06:26
Up to you guys if you want the proxy.  It'd be better to get one of you guys to proxy instead of Nubs since he's not getting one even though he offered to help..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:09:56
Yeah, sadly $400+ is way too rich for me.  It would be better to get one of the buyers to proxy.  I'd be more than willing to proxy if no buyer wants to step up, but I can't swing the price for the keyboard.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:21:31
Yeah, sadly $400+ is way too rich for me.  It would be better to get one of the buyers to proxy.  I'd be more than willing to proxy if no buyer wants to step up, but I can't swing the price for the keyboard.

I can proxy if you'd be kind enough to lend packing and procedure advice nubbinator.

EDIT: Only if the rest of the US orderers think it will be worth it.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: DraJin on Mon, 17 March 2014, 21:14:03
 :cool:

Black Orion

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/737/132/7fecf4d2070785906f86e5d60735258e.JPG)

more image
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=132737

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 17 March 2014, 21:18:26
Not sure I'm comfortable with a proxy :/
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 17 March 2014, 21:37:54
I can proxy if you'd be kind enough to lend packing and procedure advice nubbinator.

EDIT: Only if the rest of the US orderers think it will be worth it.

Packing advice:

1.  Did you use enough padding/bubblewrap/packaging material?  If you said no, add more.  If you said yes, add more.

2.  This fits perfectly in this box!  No it doesn't.  Unless the person isn't willing to spend a little more on a bigger box for more packaging, the box is too small if it just fits.  If the PCB touches both ends of the box or is with 1/8", the box is too small.

3. Surely this PCB will be fine just in bubble wrap, right?  No.  With smaller PCBs, it can be, but with a 60% or bigger, always wrap it in bubble wrap, sandwich it between some cardboard, and wrap some more.

4.  Voids in packaging are fine, right?  I mean, I have all this bubblewrap and other packaging to protect it.  No, you don't.  It can be peanuts, wadded up newspaper, whatever, the stuff shouldn't be able to bang around in the package.  Shifting is okay, not full on moving.

Procedure advice:

1. Ship, at minimum, USPS Priority.  No First Class, no Parcel Post.

2.  Collect money via Paypal and buy shipping through Paypal.

3.  Offer shipping insurance at the going rate if they want it.  Explicitly state in the invoice that you are not responsible for any damaged or property lost in transit if they do not pay extra for the shipping insurance except in cases of negligence.

4.  Document everything.  Show how you packed it and shipped it.

It sounds scary, but it really isn't if you take the time to do it right.

Not sure I'm comfortable with a proxy :/

You should be able to have it shipped direct to you.  There were a few last time with the Butterfly pad.  It's a little more expensive, but it can be done.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nntnam on Tue, 18 March 2014, 03:09:25
Hi elton5354,

I'm interested in this keyboard, one of the best looking keyboard I've ever seen! However, I'm living in Japan and don't know how to build the keyboard, I don't know anyone that can help me too. Do you know anyone in Korea that can do this (fully build the keyboard) and ship to Japan?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: lotus1109 on Tue, 18 March 2014, 05:54:12
Hi elton5354,

I'm interested in this keyboard, one of the best looking keyboard I've ever seen! However, I'm living in Japan and don't know how to build the keyboard, I don't know anyone that can help me too. Do you know anyone in Korea that can do this (fully build the keyboard) and ship to Japan?

Thanks!
I think you may look for gon or zenuty, they are pretty good in providing services to fellow ghers :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 18 March 2014, 07:01:32

Hi elton5354,

I'm interested in this keyboard, one of the best looking keyboard I've ever seen! However, I'm living in Japan and don't know how to build the keyboard, I don't know anyone that can help me too. Do you know anyone in Korea that can do this (fully build the keyboard) and ship to Japan?

Thanks!
I think you may look for gon or zenuty, they are pretty good in providing services to fellow ghers :)

Yeah, you can message either of them to confirm everything then let me know. I can have it shipped within South Korea. I have done this before with butterfly key pad. Shipping was like $6 to them + shipping to you.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: DraJin on Tue, 18 March 2014, 08:19:10
Hi elton5354,

I'm interested in this keyboard, one of the best looking keyboard I've ever seen! However, I'm living in Japan and don't know how to build the keyboard, I don't know anyone that can help me too. Do you know anyone in Korea that can do this (fully build the keyboard) and ship to Japan?

Thanks!


Duck's relatives living in Japan.

and He(Duck) told me. "I will assemble and ship!".

If you pay the price for the assembly and shipping Cost.

Don't worry.


Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nntnam on Tue, 18 March 2014, 09:34:35
Great news for me! Thanks, lotus1109, elton5354, DraJin!

@DraJin, could you please pm me Duck's email? He speaks English? It would be great if Duck can do the assemble.

Thanks again, guys!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 18 March 2014, 10:23:41
Great news for me! Thanks, lotus1109, elton5354, DraJin!

@DraJin, could you please pm me Duck's email? He speaks English? It would be great if Duck can do the assemble.

Thanks again, guys!
Duck's email: duck0113@naver.com
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 18 March 2014, 10:49:59
Duck must be a busy, busy guy. 
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:40:31
I may be extending this for a week longer if you guys don't mind.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:41:49
Fine by me. :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 19 March 2014, 23:30:47
I may be extending this for a week longer if you guys don't mind.

TNHANK YOU

praise my lord and savior Demik
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 20 March 2014, 00:21:27
I may be extending this for a week longer if you guys don't mind.

I'm cool with that :P Gotta sort out all of this stab, spring, switch stuff first anyway
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:51:12
I may be extending this for a week longer if you guys don't mind.

awwww
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:51:25
Hey what is the name of this TKL pcb?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 08:28:54
I may be extending this for a week longer if you guys don't mind.
Hmmm, tempted now. Might have acces to some new funds next week.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:29:33
Hey what is the name of this TKL pcb?

http://www.kbd4u.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=30&cate_no=1&display_group=2#none

I think it's just called the Orion pcb.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 21 March 2014, 16:32:24
A couple more questions before I pull the trigger on this:
- This board only takes 1.5 unit mods doesn't it?
- The red anodization is not possible and is something I would have to do locally.
- The acrylic parts are not for sale but can you share the file so we can have them made ourselves?
- How do the leds work? I'm guessing single colour.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 16:34:47
1. No you can choose
2. Doesn't look like they're offering the red color so yeah you can get a shop to do it
3. Someone else might be able to. They may be public on the Korean sites I'll dig around later
4. No idea what you mean, you can put whatever LEDs you want, both for in switch and for the SMD ones. If you're asking if they're RGB LEDs then no, nothing supports that yet anyway.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 21 March 2014, 16:38:41
1. No you can choose
2. Doesn't look like they're offering the red color so yeah you can get a shop to do it
3. Someone else might be able to. They may be public on the Korean sites I'll dig around later
4. No idea what you mean, you can put whatever LEDs you want, both for in switch and for the SMD ones. If you're asking if they're RGB LEDs then no, nothing supports that yet anyway.
That's great. Sorry, I should have been clearer on the fourth one. I was wondering if they were RGB because the pictures showed a mix mash of different colours.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Kit-Bar on Fri, 21 March 2014, 18:13:00
Hey guys,
Really looking into getting into a custom keyboard. I dont have any experience with soldering but I intend to start and I already have a solder, dont think it seems too hard.
My question is this: What is required for this other than our MX key switches, soldering iron and soldering accessories and keycaps?
Is everything soldered basically or is there anything beyond soldering LEDs and Switches? SMD soldering and such seem pretty difficult to do unless you have quite a bit of experience.
sorry if this sounds retarded but I am pretty interested in building something like this. Also, would this be a good keyboard to start on or are there better options? I really want a TKL, metal case, and then thats pretty much it. LED support seems really nice as well.
I just want to know before i spend quite a bit on this
Thanks!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 18:19:45
Hey guys,
Really looking into getting into a custom keyboard. I dont have any experience with soldering but I intend to start and I already have a solder, dont think it seems too hard.
My question is this: What is required for this other than our MX key switches, soldering iron and soldering accessories and keycaps?
Is everything soldered basically or is there anything beyond soldering LEDs and Switches? SMD soldering and such seem pretty difficult to do unless you have quite a bit of experience.
sorry if this sounds retarded but I am pretty interested in building something like this. Also, would this be a good keyboard to start on or are there better options? I really want a TKL, metal case, and then thats pretty much it. LED support seems really nice as well.
I just want to know before i spend quite a bit on this
Thanks!

You need LEDs, stabilizers, switches (lube/springs/stickers if you're into that, optional stuff), keycaps, a mini usb cable, the kit itself, and that's about it really.

I think it's SMD-pre soldered, however the LEDs on the bottom of the PCB are SMD.

This would not be a good keyboard to start on lol, maybe start modding a sub $100 stock keyboard before you tinker around with a $400+ one.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 21 March 2014, 18:21:26
Not sure whether you need diodes and resistors also. At least that is the case for my face-W PCB.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 18:22:34
Most of the time you need diodes/resistors but apparently on the Orion they're already done I believe?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 March 2014, 18:28:51
Guessing it's the same as with the LightSaver, which had all SMD parts pre-soldered.  So just LEDs and switches.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: keymaster3 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 19:02:59
Dam thats awesome I wish I could afford taht  :eek:
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 19:18:16
Correct! I'll leave all the answering to you guys. :P


Most of the time you need diodes/resistors but apparently on the Orion they're already done I believe?
Guessing it's the same as with the LightSaver, which had all SMD parts pre-soldered.  So just LEDs and switches.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 21 March 2014, 19:28:31
- This board only takes 1.5 unit mods doesn't it?
1. No you can choose
Found my answer (http://duck0113.tistory.com/87). So Koreans seem to have a thing for 7x spacebars?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 19:29:09
- This board only takes 1.5 unit mods doesn't it?
1. No you can choose
Found my answer (http://duck0113.tistory.com/87). So Koreans seem to have a thing for 7x spacebars?

yup :))
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:37:23
lets get down to brass tax. you need to make ergodox cases like this, now.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Sat, 22 March 2014, 00:38:43
does this share the same profile as the butterfly keypad?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 22 March 2014, 00:50:02
does this share the same profile as the butterfly keypad?

If you mean the same angle, then yeah of course.  11 degrees tilt and it's from the same manufacturer; not too sure on anodized colours matching though.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Sat, 22 March 2014, 00:58:04
If you mean the same angle, then yeah of course.  11 degrees tilt and it's from the same manufacturer; not too sure on anodized colours matching though.

thank you sir.
aside from that, would be the same for the length/height from top to bottom row?
i can't seem to find pictures of the keypad and orion side by side.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 22 March 2014, 01:33:14
If you mean the same angle, then yeah of course.  11 degrees tilt and it's from the same manufacturer; not too sure on anodized colours matching though.

thank you sir.
aside from that, would be the same for the length/height from top to bottom row?
i can't seem to find pictures of the keypad and orion side by side.


Lightpad:
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2308ED3753140EB13FC44D)
Orion:
(http://cfile28.uf.tistory.com/image/2321B3415321BC7614D316)

I think the lightpad is a bit thinner on the bezel/frame, and I think the lightsaver is even thinner than that. Orion has a pretty wide and thick case.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Sat, 22 March 2014, 06:38:58
If you mean the same angle, then yeah of course.  11 degrees tilt and it's from the same manufacturer; not too sure on anodized colours matching though.

thank you sir.
aside from that, would be the same for the length/height from top to bottom row?
i can't seem to find pictures of the keypad and orion side by side.


Lightpad:
Show Image
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2308ED3753140EB13FC44D)

Orion:
Show Image
(http://cfile28.uf.tistory.com/image/2321B3415321BC7614D316)


I think the lightpad is a bit thinner on the bezel/frame, and I think the lightsaver is even thinner than that. Orion has a pretty wide and thick case.



thanks for the effort.
what i meant was something like this... but instead of the saber/saver, it'd be an orion
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bLWM_O7Pxic/UwRyECBhaHI/AAAAAAAAHNA/_9LxtWDdNBM/s1600/20140217-4.jpg)

i am assuming that the orion will be 'taller' than the light saber/saver and the butterfly, considering that the orion has extra space between the function row and number row. but i was hoping for an actual picture as my visualization/assumption could be inaccurate.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Sat, 22 March 2014, 07:16:30
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/659/053/f1ee527c4d78931c216a105a17f86e0f.JPG)
lightpad, eagle, lightsaver, orion CMIIW
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/283/112/ed900691739bab7399c95c54288d7630.JPG) lightpad with eagle
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sat, 22 March 2014, 07:20:56
Order placed
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 22 March 2014, 08:00:32
Eagle;
Classic WoB always looking nice imo  :cool:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 10:31:02

If you mean the same angle, then yeah of course.  11 degrees tilt and it's from the same manufacturer; not too sure on anodized colours matching though.

thank you sir.
aside from that, would be the same for the length/height from top to bottom row?
i can't seem to find pictures of the keypad and orion side by side.


Lightpad:
Show Image
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2308ED3753140EB13FC44D)

Orion:
Show Image
(http://cfile28.uf.tistory.com/image/2321B3415321BC7614D316)


I think the lightpad is a bit thinner on the bezel/frame, and I think the lightsaver is even thinner than that. Orion has a pretty wide and thick case.



thanks for the effort.
what i meant was something like this... but instead of the saber/saver, it'd be an orion
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bLWM_O7Pxic/UwRyECBhaHI/AAAAAAAAHNA/_9LxtWDdNBM/s1600/20140217-4.jpg)


i am assuming that the orion will be 'taller' than the light saber/saver and the butterfly, considering that the orion has extra space between the function row and number row. but i was hoping for an actual picture as my visualization/assumption could be inaccurate.


The light pad should match in height but not the width as you said because of the spacing of the f row. Lightsaver would be perfect as show in the picture.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Sat, 22 March 2014, 11:08:31
The light pad should match in height but not the width as you said because of the spacing of the f row. Lightsaver would be perfect as show in the picture.

thank you Elton
i guess i should put this to rest and resist...
although duck's exquisite work makes it a difficult task.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 16:23:00
Black, silver or Grey >~> So hard to decide even though I'm reanodizing
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 March 2014, 16:23:59
Black is boring :)  Go for silver or gray.  I like the bluish gray of the Viper, but no idea what this gray is like.  I've had plans to reanodize my LightSaver from the start, but I actually really like the clear-anodized silver--it goes with everything, and changes tones based on lighting.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 16:30:22
Silver it is
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 22 March 2014, 16:56:55
Silver it is

Oh boy, sifo hopping onto the bandwagon for Orions? :S

Edit: I like grey more :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 17:27:54
Silver it is

Oh boy, sifo hopping onto the bandwagon for Orions? :S

Edit: I like grey more :S

You should be thankful, it'll save you $$ on shipping. :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 22 March 2014, 17:34:40
It will? I already paid 53 for shipping
Unless we're getting reimbursed for someone proxying?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 17:42:15
It will? I already paid 53 for shipping
Unless we're getting reimbursed for someone proxying?

Not sure how it'll work, but if I buy an Orion then having 2 shipped to me will cost less and we can split the shipping.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:11:08
It'll cost about $75 to ship 2 sets to Canada, but if you're shipping it to Sifo to assemble for you, you won't save anything in the end after it ships back to you..;)

I'll refund you the difference if you're going that route..I'll also PM US orders later if they want a proxy since there are 7 orders now from US and if you guys want to save $10-15 dollars in shipping.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:13:43
He'll save money in the sense that he doesn't have to pay extra for me to ship to him :P

When's the new deadline?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:20:55
Updated OP..March 28 is the new deadline.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:22:31
I've asked Duck if this PCB has the same form factor as A.87 but have not heard back yet.  Could you perhaps investigate that, Elton, if you don't mind?  I'm thinking of replacing my LZ-GH PCB with something like this Saver v1.0 PCB, because I like all the cool light modes after playing with my LightSaver for a while.  I've learned that Sprit's should also most likely fit, but would be nice to use the same firmware/mapping tools for both of my customs.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:25:33
I've asked Duck if this PCB has the same form factor as A.87 but have not heard back yet.  Could you perhaps investigate that, Elton, if you don't mind?  I'm thinking of replacing my LZ-GH PCB with something like this Saver v1.0 PCB, because I like all the cool light modes after playing with my LightSaver for a while.  I've learned that Sprit's should also most likely fit, but would be nice to use the same firmware/mapping tools for both of my customs.

No problem, I'll fire him an email right now.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:27:50
Thanks!  I forgot to add that the LZ-GH PCB (called TRiK) was based on A.87, so anything that's also based on A.87 should technically have proper switch spacing and such (and hopefully mounting holes).
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sun, 23 March 2014, 08:38:23
Elton,

Just sent you a PM. I want to change the post address. Please resend me invoice.

Great Thanks,
dragonken
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:46:15
Ordered one. This is going to be an expensive month for keyboards. :D

EDIT: I guess I will need to start sourcing some switches and stabilizers.
EDIT2: These should fit (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55), right?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 24 March 2014, 11:32:50

Ordered one. This is going to be an expensive month for keyboards. :D

EDIT: I guess I will need to start sourcing some switches and stabilizers.
EDIT2: These should fit (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55), right?

Those are definitely pcb mount cherry stabs, so they're good
Not too sure on imsto's shipping speed, though :P.
I'm getting mine from GON's site. There are also switch stickers on that site, although only in red.

You can get switches from mechanicalkeyboards.com. ^^

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:00:24

Ordered one. This is going to be an expensive month for keyboards. :D

EDIT: I guess I will need to start sourcing some switches and stabilizers.
EDIT2: These should fit (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55), right?

Those are definitely pcb mount cherry stabs, so they're good
Not too sure on imsto's shipping speed, though :P.
I'm getting mine from GON's site. There are also switch stickers on that site, although only in red.

You can get switches from mechanicalkeyboards.com. ^^
Something about Imsto I am missing? Is he MIA?

I'll get the switches sorted out, so just a checklist for me, and other of what I will need to make this board work:
- MX switches 87x
- Cherry Stabilizers (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html) (6.25 or 7 unit spacebar, depending on Winkey/Winkeyless)
- Switch stickers (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/20-switch-stickers-120-pcs.html) (Optional, but I want them)
- Mini usb cable
- LEDs, colour of choice
- Resistors (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/others/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html) (for LEDs, resistance depending on colour) Not necessary

Am I forgetting anything?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:14:51
Well it is imsto.CN; and i usually hate chinese shipping :S
GON's shipping cost is pretty high though haha

I had no idea imsto had cherry stabs honestly

Cross out resistors on that list, all SMD soldering is already done, as confirmed by Sifo and Photoelectric-- you only need switches and LEDs

Other than that, your list looks good ^^ And don't forget a good set of thick PBT or GMK abs key caps to really bring out the LEDs; or else, they'll bleed and look all crappy ):
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:20:59
Well it is imsto.CN; and i usually hate chinese shipping :S
GON's shipping cost is pretty high though haha

I had no idea imsto had cherry stabs honestly

Cross out resistors on that list, all SMD soldering is already done, as confirmed by Sifo and Photoelectric-- you only need switches and LEDs

Other than that, your list looks good ^^ And don't forget a good set of thick PBT or GMK abs key caps to really bring out the LEDs; or else, they'll bleed and look all crappy ):

On that note, does anyone have good recommendations for keycaps that look good backlit?  I like the look of the ones on the CODE keyboard (even though they are thin and flimsy) but they are not sold independently of the keyboard.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:22:32
You can get a set of Ducky Shine keycaps from mechanicalkeyboards.com.  Trouble is that those are made for switches mounted upside-down on Ducky keyboards, with LEDs pointing up.  If you use those on "normally" mounted switches, the LED will be closer to the front of the keycap, and the legends won't be as well illuminated.  Unless you get transparent switch covers too to disperse the light.

More
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3691/13278975193_947999fc1d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:25:14
Well it is imsto.CN; and i usually hate chinese shipping :S
GON's shipping cost is pretty high though haha

I had no idea imsto had cherry stabs honestly

Cross out resistors on that list, all SMD soldering is already done, as confirmed by Sifo and Photoelectric-- you only need switches and LEDs

Other than that, your list looks good ^^ And don't forget a good set of thick PBT or GMK abs key caps to really bring out the LEDs; or else, they'll bleed and look all crappy ):
Thanks, I was planning to put Ivan's Black on Black (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0) pbt dyesubs on there with red leds and clear switch covers. That should make it an ominous little board. :P
And match my computer case as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/xYl5m.jpg)
That should make my desk primarily Korean XD
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:28:11
Well it is imsto.CN; and i usually hate chinese shipping :S
GON's shipping cost is pretty high though haha

I had no idea imsto had cherry stabs honestly

Cross out resistors on that list, all SMD soldering is already done, as confirmed by Sifo and Photoelectric-- you only need switches and LEDs

Other than that, your list looks good ^^ And don't forget a good set of thick PBT or GMK abs key caps to really bring out the LEDs; or else, they'll bleed and look all crappy ):


Thanks, I was planning to put Ivan's Black on Black (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0) pbt dyesubs on there with red leds and clear switch covers. That should make it an ominous little board. :P
And match my computer case as well.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xYl5m.jpg)

That should make my desk primarily Korean XD

Same here :P Although the front LEDs on my case kind of died out, most of it is still red :P
Wish i had clear switch covers though; but I think i've spent enough on one keyboard for at least a couple months :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:45:29
You have a Zalman Z-Machine case as well? I think by the end my keyboard will be as expensive as the case was originally.

I should open it up some time and take some measurements of the pcb of the front panel connections.
Design a new one and replace the Firewire with USB 3.0 or something.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 24 March 2014, 13:24:56
You have a Zalman Z-Machine case as well? I think by the end my keyboard will be as expensive as the case was originally.

I should open it up some time and take some measurements of the pcb of the front panel connections.
Design a new one and replace the Firewire with USB 3.0 or something.

Ah I don't have a Z-Machine case, I meant the red/black colour scheme + Ivan's pbt :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 20:16:03
What do you guys think of the lightsaver v2? Same specs as the original one but different case.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/yryzu8yv.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 24 March 2014, 20:19:08
I love my V1 with the flat back.  The stepped back side is a little odd.  Same reason I find the Orion case and other related designs a little funky when looking from the back.

Another great thing about the original LightSaver is the relatively low height at the front--I think the new design would make it overall taller and require a wrist rest.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Mon, 24 March 2014, 20:22:09
What do you guys think of the lightsaver v2? Same specs as the original one but different case.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/yryzu8yv.jpg) (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/yryzu8yv.jpg)

I want one! I like it! :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 21:00:53

I love my V1 with the flat back.  The stepped back side is a little odd.  Same reason I find the Orion case and other related designs a little funky when looking from the back.

Another great thing about the original LightSaver is the relatively low height at the front--I think the new design would make it overall taller and require a wrist rest.

They're the same height.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 22:02:27
I want one!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 25 March 2014, 03:53:35
Got my invoice and paid.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 25 March 2014, 15:59:26
Sad to say something came up and I can't afford this for the next little while. Enjoy everyone :( it's a sweet board.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:03:17
What do you guys think of the lightsaver v2? Same specs as the original one but different case.

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/yryzu8yv.jpg)


OMG Elton u made my day ! I have been waiting for the lightsaver ! I will be the first person to buy that !
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:05:01
Question is, will it come in PINK!? (yes, I'm pretty sure it won't :( )
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Stabilized on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:39:31
I am thinking of converting my QFR from ISO to ANSI, if I bought just the plate could I do this with the QFRs current PCB?
Looks to me that the QFRs PCB has holes for the ANSI layout, just need a plate for them to mount to.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 26 March 2014, 19:19:29
I am thinking of converting my QFR from ISO to ANSI, if I bought just the plate could I do this with the QFRs current PCB?
Looks to me that the QFRs PCB has holes for the ANSI layout, just need a plate for them to mount to.

These plates are designed to be mounted in an aluminum case. Besides, QFRs are so cheap, why not just get a new ANSI version?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 27 March 2014, 02:18:28
I thought this might have been the case, worth a try though.
The reason I wanted to try this other then getting a new keyboard was money saving, as it is $31+shipping (if it did work out) compared to something along the lines of $110 shipped to the UK (not including import tax @20%).

Thanks for the reply though, might look into alternative 87s from China :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 14:52:30
You're better off buying one from this group buy

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.0
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 27 March 2014, 15:09:17
You're better off buying one from this group buy

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.0
+1, I was thinking the same
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 27 March 2014, 16:31:34
You're better off buying one from this group buy

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.0

Fantastic, that is just what I was looking for! Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JizzGus on Thu, 27 March 2014, 18:17:44
placed an order for a gray top and bottom, though still unsure if that's the final colour i want.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 19:41:55
placed an order for a gray top and bottom, though still unsure if that's the final colour i want.

You have a bit over 24 hours to decide on that. ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 27 March 2014, 19:44:37
placed an order for a gray top and bottom, though still unsure if that's the final colour i want.

I think grey on grey is the most aesthetically neutral and goes well with any set imo.
Black is much too common and and the silver is very flakey-looking for me :S

I got grey top/bottom too :P In the end, it's your keyboard though
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 27 March 2014, 21:51:37
Have we see nvany pics of the gray?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 21:57:27
Should be like the gray in the pictures like this one.

(http://cfile5.uf.tistory.com/R480x0/222ADE4952DA5F8D155122)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 28 March 2014, 11:29:44
elton, any plans for doing a gb for the lightsaver v2? I'd be in for sure.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 29 March 2014, 11:40:45
elton, any plans for doing a gb for the lightsaver v2? I'd be in for sure.

Probably in the near future...

Someone did an unboxing of their Orion...

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=160549&mid=board_Lsno50
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:37:40
elton, any plans for doing a gb for the lightsaver v2? I'd be in for sure.

Probably in the near future...

Someone did an unboxing of their Orion...

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=160549&mid=board_Lsno50

While I ended up passing on this awesome group buy to invest in some high end soldering stuff, I seriously doubt I will be able to resist the lightsaver v2 one if you do it. I'm still upset that I missed the butterfly buy, I'll be keeping a close eye out for your future group buys :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Sat, 29 March 2014, 16:33:29
I'm fine in receiving my keyboard instead of via proxy.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sun, 30 March 2014, 10:53:45
elton,

Sent you a PM. Please check.

Regards,
dragonken
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 30 March 2014, 11:06:03
Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 11:22:35
Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?

I have no idea, but maybe I can run that too? ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 30 March 2014, 11:30:08

Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?

I have no idea, but maybe I can run that too? ;)

Might as well RUN for prime minister at this point :P

So many gbs, you're too awesome haha
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 30 March 2014, 11:33:58
I may have to build and sell this Orion if the Viper and LightSaver v2 come too quick behind. Elton can you ask Duck to take a vacation?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 30 March 2014, 11:36:50
I can't keep up with all these Duck boards. Viper, Eagle, Orion...

Edit: I see, they're 60% (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 30 March 2014, 11:43:36
Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?

I have no idea, but maybe I can run that too? ;)

Please please please! I checked the Viper thread and at least 6 members have expressed their interest.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 12:45:46
Update on this group buy since it's closed now.  I forgot to withdraw the money from Paypal, so I did it just now.  I'll have to wait a couple days for the money to be in my account and then I can pay True Custom the money.  After that he will have them shipped in a week or 2.

Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: mashby on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:40:40
Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?

I have no idea, but maybe I can run that too? ;)

Please please please! I checked the Viper thread and at least 6 members have expressed their interest.

Yes, Elton. Please?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:54:29
What are these eagle and Viper group buys you people speak of? :P
EDIT: Found it (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55427.0)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:49:50
Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?

I have no idea, but maybe I can run that too? ;)

Please please please! I checked the Viper thread and at least 6 members have expressed their interest.

Yes, Elton. Please?

I'm also in favour of this.   :-*
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:51:12
I'm going to run it around May after Lightsaver V2 ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:52:13
I'm going to run it around May after Lightsaver V2 ;)

Any word on whether the V2 will come in more stock colors?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:53:27
I'm going to run it around May after Lightsaver V2 ;)

Mmmm, Lightsaver V2...  :)  Still disappointed I somehow missed out on the original run of that.  I hope I have money when you run V2...   :eek:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:57:11
I'm going to run it around May after Lightsaver V2 ;)

Mmmm, Lightsaver V2...  :)  Still disappointed I somehow missed out on the original run of that.  I hope I have money when you run V2...   :eek:

My favorite keyboard so far!  You won't regret it if you get it :D  So much fun to plan it out with all those options, from physical configuration to software.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:59:54
I'm going to run it around May after Lightsaver V2 ;)

Mmmm, Lightsaver V2...  :)  Still disappointed I somehow missed out on the original run of that.  I hope I have money when you run V2...   :eek:

My favorite keyboard so far!  You won't regret it if you get it :D  So much fun to plan it out with all those options, from physical configuration to software.

Well your pictures are what made me regret missing it the most.  I unashamedly admit that if I could basically replicate what you've done I would be a happy camper.   :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:14:32
So far it's silver, black, and gray.  Any preference in any other colours? (Not that other colour options will happen, but maybe it will if enough interest?)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:15:30
So far it's silver, black, and gray.  Any preference in any other colours?

Pink :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:19:17
Lol, I doubt it.  Oh and there will only be 15 of them made. Cost will probably be the same as V1, I think was $295?  Don't quote me on it though,....
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:29:15
wtf lightsaver costs less than Orion? Gimme one

ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:10:16
Any difference between v1 and v2?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:21:59
Any difference between v1 and v2?

The case is a bit different with everything else being the same
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:26:01
Any difference between v1 and v2?

The case is a bit different with everything else being the same

Oh I see the picture you linked. Kinda like Orion case but with open top? Looks sweet.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:34:06
That eagle gray/blue color (if it isn't just a photo effect), or red
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:37:27
I want the new lightsaver. <3
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:43:22
It's confirmed they're 2 different shades of gray.

I'll probably start the group buy once these are shipped.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:44:04
It's confirmed they're 2 different shades of gray.

I'll probably start the group buy once these are shipped.

Nooo, I need time to save money.  :(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:44:54
It's confirmed they're 2 different shades of gray.

I'll probably start the group buy once these are shipped.

Nooo, I need time to save money.  :(

How long do you need?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:48:41
It's confirmed they're 2 different shades of gray.

I'll probably start the group buy once these are shipped.

Nooo, I need time to save money.  :(

How long do you need?

Well realistically, probably longer than you want to wait (June).  :)  And I don't want to be responsible for holding up a group buy.  I think I can stand to dip into my savings just a bit. 
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:52:01
Yeah, I'm planning on closing that group buy by the end of April since I was told the lightsavers will be ready to ship by then.

Good ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:55:48
ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE

+1
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:59:02
If everything else is the same does that mean that the Lightsaver v2 also has an Alps compatible PCB?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:00:11
ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE

+1
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:05:06
If everything else is the same does that mean that the Lightsaver v2 also has an Alps compatible PCB?

I don't think V1 had ALPS compatible PCB

As for the colours, I'll pass it on to TC for him to decide...

Doesn't look like it

(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/original/2425AE455288775A3809ED)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:13:19
If everything else is the same does that mean that the Lightsaver v2 also has an Alps compatible PCB?

I don't think V1 had ALPS compatible PCB

As for the colours, I'll pass it on to TC for him to decide...

Doesn't look like it

Show Image
(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/original/2425AE455288775A3809ED)


aw, drag. I thought I saw photos of an Alps Saver but it must've been the Duck Mini
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:48:53
Orders:

Sets: 13
PCBs: 3
Plates: 3

2 more to drop the price to 385
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:52:15
Group buy is closed....
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 31 March 2014, 10:54:12
ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE

+1

I'll vote for this too.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 11:07:03
ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE

+1

I'll vote for this too.

You're buying another one? :O
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 31 March 2014, 11:14:23
ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE

+1

I'll vote for this too.

You're buying another one? :O

Photo's addicted to Kustoms!  Muahaha.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 31 March 2014, 11:15:03
ALSO SKY ****ING B LUE

+1

I'll vote for this too.

(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-38234-snoop-dogg-nodding-yes-gif-Img-KPHy.gif)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:12:53
Koreans starting to receive their Orions :( jelly that I'm poor
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:23:45
Better pictures of the gray here


http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=165586&mid=board_Lsno50
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:26:18
Better pictures of the gray here


http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=165586&mid=board_Lsno50

Oh wow. It looks a lot like the gray Quick Fire Rapid case tops sans branding. I almost want to switch from Silver, but I'm going to trust my first pick.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:46:28
Yes! Knew grey was definitely my kind of thing; now to decide on LED areas :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 31 March 2014, 16:21:40
Very pretty indeed.  I already have similarly colored KMACs, though. Mine will be the inverse colors: silver on gray.  Can't wait to build it!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JizzGus on Mon, 31 March 2014, 17:40:46
Guess gray was the right choice, that looks amazing!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 31 March 2014, 17:57:18
Why does no one like black  :'(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 31 March 2014, 18:29:16
Why does no one like black  :'(

I really like the black, and I came very close to switching my order.  I just decided that I already have a few black keyboards.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 18:42:59
Why does no one like black  :'(

I got the black, have too many greys :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: YongJK on Tue, 01 April 2014, 08:40:14
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujAf5HtsPq8-d5DZfQHqF5CAse9zbgPlCIT29xSlbjuZ/1396090105489.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 10:05:17
Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujAf5HtsPq8-d5DZfQHqF5CAse9zbgPlCIT29xSlbjuZ/1396090105489.jpg)


Is that yours? ;)


Also for those interested, here are the acrylic plate and insert drawings.

acrylic plate: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172
acrylic side inserts: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=460
                             http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=502

You can download the attachments near the bottom of their post
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:16:22
How many people want assembly service? If enough interest, they might add it....

Yeah, it's a bit late for that, but this will also be included in the lightsaver v2 group buy as well if enough interest.

Probably offer this for future group buy instead...too late for this.. :blank:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:34:30
How many people want assembly service? If enough interest, they might add it....

Yeah, it's a bit late for that, but this will also be included in the lightsaver v2 group buy as well if enough interest.

Probably offer this for future group buy instead...too late for this.. :blank:

Very late haha; I think i asked if there was assembly like a month ago ):
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:43:10
Yeah, it's a bit late for that, but this will also be included in the lightsaver v2 group buy as well if enough interest.

I'm in for the V2 and assembly service as soon as it goes live as long as the assembly price is reasonable :) Thanks Elton!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:45:52
Is there an IC for the Lightsaver v2 yet?  I'm in for one.  I regret that I missed the first.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pmh1410 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:54:34
Elton, do you know how I can get into Eagle group buy if no one wants to proxy?

I have no idea, but maybe I can run that too? ;)

Please please please! I checked the Viper thread and at least 6 members have expressed their interest.

Yes, Elton. Please?

Mashby, Eagle and Viper will end of payment at 15 April, i believe ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 01 April 2014, 13:29:00
/me waiting for Maverick and Goose
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 14:30:38
I would've considered assembly, but ordered switches already...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 14:32:12
For Lightsaver V2 group buy, if enough interest, the assembly will cost $70-80. 

Includes soldering, LEDs, stabilizers, switches, and rubric


Oh and I'm not going to open an IC thread. I'll just create a group buy thread when these are shipped.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 01 April 2014, 14:41:12
Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujAf5HtsPq8-d5DZfQHqF5CAse9zbgPlCIT29xSlbjuZ/1396090105489.jpg)


YongJK hao! So rich!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Tue, 01 April 2014, 16:17:21
Includes soldering, LEDs, stabilizers, switches, and rubric

what's "rubric"?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 01 April 2014, 17:12:20
I assume he meant to say some variation of "lube"
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 02 April 2014, 11:48:07
Question to elton or anyone that can read korean: you guys know the width/thickness of the acrylic inserts? I asked for a quote after giving a local company the.dwg file. I opened it up myself, and it only listed two measurements. Anyone got a clue?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 12:07:18
 Let me measure mine.  It's 12mm
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 02 April 2014, 12:13:08
How do you connect them btw? I'm guessing double sided tape?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 12:20:04
Yeah and I also taped the bottom

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/03/radapu8u.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 02 April 2014, 12:32:08
Yeah and I also taped the bottom

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/03/radapu8u.jpg)


Oh the ghettoness. Thanks for the help on the measuring btw ^^
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 02 April 2014, 13:48:51
Pls followup on how the acrylic insert goes calvin, might be looking to get some for myself eventually  :p
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 02 April 2014, 14:09:27
Pls followup on how the acrylic insert goes calvin, might be looking to get some for myself eventually  :p

The quote I got was insane, $28.75 per piece if I'm ordering 2, and $12.88ea for 8 pieces. I heard it was around $10 for each piece over in Korea. This is understandable due to the larger order for the company over in Korea though; don't think anyone else in Vancouver got an Orion/Lightsaver that need the pieces.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 02 April 2014, 14:25:41
Pls followup on how the acrylic insert goes calvin, might be looking to get some for myself eventually  :p

The quote I got was insane, $28.75 per piece if I'm ordering 2, and $12.88ea for 8 pieces. I heard it was around $10 for each piece over in Korea. This is understandable due to the larger order for the company over in Korea though; don't think anyone else in Vancouver got an Orion/Lightsaver that need the pieces.

That is ridiculous  :eek: hopefully it's cheaper down here in CA ..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 02 April 2014, 14:52:23
I'd be up for trying to pool US (and possibly Canada if shipping is sensible) orders to get these inserts made in slightly higher quantity. Do the side inserts fit the Butterfly keypad? If so I'd get 2 pairs for those as well.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 02 April 2014, 15:17:14
Cheapest place I've found for those kinds parts is big-blue-saw.  He does a pretty good job, you can upload DXF, and you get it all in the mail.

I've worked with him before.  I could run a mini-GB for these parts if y'all want.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 16:09:09
I'm meeting up with true custom on Friday to give him the money so he will have them ship some time after Friday. I'll let you all know your tracking #.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 02 April 2014, 16:17:49
Cheapest place I've found for those kinds parts is big-blue-saw.  He does a pretty good job, you can upload DXF, and you get it all in the mail.

I've worked with him before.  I could run a mini-GB for these parts if y'all want.

We'd be in your debt! I have no clue how to deal with the logistics of stuff like this :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 02 April 2014, 16:28:04
I'm meeting up with true custom on Friday to give him the money so he will have them ship some time after Friday. I'll let you all know your tracking #.
Wait a second, so we could be having our hands on this in a week or so? That's insane.
I'm used to GB's taking ages. Granted Round4 was a special case. :P

I'll have to send my SkiData to Margon then to have it desoldered and ready for when this arrives.
It is lovely to type on though... almost a shame to send it off.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 16:34:57
He said he could ship some right away but the rest will have to wait about a week.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 02 April 2014, 17:02:32
Cheapest place I've found for those kinds parts is big-blue-saw.  He does a pretty good job, you can upload DXF, and you get it all in the mail.

I've worked with him before.  I could run a mini-GB for these parts if y'all want.

Much interested in this (:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 02 April 2014, 17:18:53
Cheapest place I've found for those kinds parts is big-blue-saw.  He does a pretty good job, you can upload DXF, and you get it all in the mail.

I've worked with him before.  I could run a mini-GB for these parts if y'all want.

Much interested in this (:

Moi aussi
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 17:39:05
Would be cool if you can get them to engrave something personal on the side :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 02 April 2014, 17:47:43
Can get that, but it would remove the benefit of saving money through higher volume.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:06:57
I'm in for inserts if we can get them
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:58:44
I'm thinking I should wait until I have the board in hand, so I am sure to get the measurements correct.   No matter what everyone else does, I'm going to at least get a set made for myself. :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:59:56
may or may not be interested in a set just in case I get a duck board in the future.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 03 April 2014, 07:22:41
What kind of leds is everyone using?

Almost have all the parts, now all I need is LEDs. What colour and type are you guys using for this board, voltage, amperage and size?
I'm guessing 3mm?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Thu, 03 April 2014, 07:35:41
What kind of leds is everyone using?

Almost have all the parts, now all I need is LEDs. What colour and type are you guys using for this board, voltage, amperage and size?
I'm guessing 3mm?
3~3.3V rating
round head led size 3mm
square head size 2x3x4mm

colors and type up to personal preference.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 03 April 2014, 08:10:29
What kind of leds is everyone using?

Almost have all the parts, now all I need is LEDs. What colour and type are you guys using for this board, voltage, amperage and size?
I'm guessing 3mm?
3~3.3V rating
round head led size 3mm
square head size 2x3x4mm

colors and type up to personal preference.
Alright, thanks.

I feel like such a noob asking all of these questions here. :P

P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 03 April 2014, 11:04:02

What kind of leds is everyone using?

Almost have all the parts, now all I need is LEDs. What colour and type are you guys using for this board, voltage, amperage and size?
I'm guessing 3mm?

I've got white,red, and orange 2x3x4 LEDs heading to sifo from zeal/sprit.
Too bad there aren't any yellow leds I can get in time for the assembly :/
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 18:22:14

P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 19:06:46

P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

Will it be possible for any insane few who have picked up an Orion and are gonna get a Lightsaver to combine shipping?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 04 April 2014, 19:16:55
P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?
They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.
Excellent :D, and damn. :(

I am guessing the first five are going in order of who was here first?
Not that it really matters. I am still gathering some of the materials anyway.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 04 April 2014, 19:53:20

P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

Will it be possible for any insane few who have picked up an Orion and are gonna get a Lightsaver to combine shipping?

Going hard in the paint!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 19:56:25
Cheapest place I've found for those kinds parts is big-blue-saw.  He does a pretty good job, you can upload DXF, and you get it all in the mail.

I've worked with him before.  I could run a mini-GB for these parts if y'all want.

Much interested in this (:

Moi aussi

I'd be in too.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 04 April 2014, 20:19:55

P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

Looking forward to the Lightsaver V2 GB, I'm in for sure.
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 04 April 2014, 20:59:36

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.


I think I was in the first 5, so this isn't bad news and the board'll come in the same time it takes for my stickers/LEDs/switches to get shipped too I think ^^
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:34:42


P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

Will it be possible for any insane few who have picked up an Orion and are gonna get a Lightsaver to combine shipping?

If you're willing to wait a bit for the lightsaver v2.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:58:20


P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

Will it be possible for any insane few who have picked up an Orion and are gonna get a Lightsaver to combine shipping?

If you're willing to wait a bit for the lightsaver v2.

If you're doing that GB next week what's the added wait? Considering how rough shipping is from SK to the US it might save $40 just to wait three weeks.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:04:11


P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

Will it be possible for any insane few who have picked up an Orion and are gonna get a Lightsaver to combine shipping?

If you're willing to wait a bit for the lightsaver v2.

If you're doing that GB next week what's the added wait? Considering how rough shipping is from SK to the US it might save $40 just to wait three weeks.

From today, it's about 1-2 months max.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:22:24

Will it be possible for any insane few who have picked up an Orion and are gonna get a Lightsaver to combine shipping?

If you're willing to wait a bit for the lightsaver v2.

If you're doing that GB next week what's the added wait? Considering how rough shipping is from SK to the US it might save $40 just to wait three weeks.

From today, it's about 1-2 months max.

Oh, that's a bit longer than I had assumed given the quick turn around on this one. ~~~nevermind~~~
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:23:52
It's 1-2 months before the lightsaver GB? sorry, I'm confused  :-[
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:25:00
It's 1-2 months before the lightsaver GB? sorry, I'm confused  :-[

It's at most one to two months until lightsaver ships. I was asking about combining shipping.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:26:37
It's 1-2 months before the lightsaver GB? sorry, I'm confused  :-[

It's at most one to two months until lightsaver ships. I was asking about combining shipping.

got it! ty nuclear :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 07 April 2014, 19:18:03
I managed to get a set of brand new Cherry WoB, just for my all black Orion. This better be really really good!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 07 April 2014, 19:28:12
I managed to get a set of brand new Cherry WoB, just for my all black Orion. This better be really really good!

I did the same  :p excitement continues to grow .. :-X
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:42:36
I managed to get a set of brand new Cherry WoB, just for my all black Orion. This better be really really good!

That's going to be super slick
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: laden3 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 09:35:14
Does anyone know how to use the keymapping program? I tried to create a .hex file but it wouldn't let me save the keymap that I created.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 09:41:44
Does anyone know how to use the keymapping program? I tried to create a .hex file but it wouldn't let me save the keymap that I created.

Shoot me a PM with some screenshots and I'll help you out.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:27:29
Does anyone know how to use the keymapping program? I tried to create a .hex file but it wouldn't let me save the keymap that I created.

We figured out the issue via PM. When you save the hex file, it fails to save unless you make the filename very simple. Even the default filenames don't work for me. I'm not sure exactly what it doesn't like but removing underscores, dashes, and spaces appears to let you save.

Once you've created the .hex file you can of course rename it to whatever you please.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 12:21:53
Does anyone know how to use the keymapping program? I tried to create a .hex file but it wouldn't let me save the keymap that I created.

We figured out the issue via PM. When you save the hex file, it fails to save unless you make the filename very simple. Even the default filenames don't work for me. I'm not sure exactly what it doesn't like but removing underscores, dashes, and spaces appears to let you save.

Once you've created the .hex file you can of course rename it to whatever you please.

Thanks for sharing  :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pmh1410 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 12:38:43
Some picture of Orion from KBD, i think it very nice keyboard  ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: YongJK on Wed, 09 April 2014, 02:56:25
The weight of everything (excluding switches) is 2.6kg.
So after assembled everything and keycaps this keyboard will weight at 3kg. 
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 09 April 2014, 10:59:46
The weight of everything (excluding switches) is 2.6kg.
So after assembled everything and keycaps this keyboard will weight at 3kg.

YongJK hao, you receive it already?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: YongJK on Wed, 09 April 2014, 11:26:06
The weight of everything (excluding switches) is 2.6kg.
So after assembled everything and keycaps this keyboard will weight at 3kg.

YongJK hao, you receive it already?
Few days ago received it.
Beg no black, no hao  :(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 14 April 2014, 02:00:14
Has anyone else received their Orion yet? Please post pictures  :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 14 April 2014, 02:06:05
Has anyone else received their Orion yet? Please post pictures  :D

Hnnngggh, must wait patiently QQ
I think they ship this week for the first 5, let's hope so, anyway
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 14 April 2014, 02:23:03
Has anyone else received their Orion yet? Please post pictures  :D

Hnnngggh, must wait patiently QQ
I think they ship this week for the first 5, let's hope so, anyway

What's everyone's going to look like? Colors, switches, leds?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 14 April 2014, 02:40:53
What's everyone's going to look like? Colors, switches, leds?
Case: Black-on-black

Switches: Stock vintage SkiData MX Clears. Lubed and stickered with clear switch tops.

LEDs: Red. Perhaps a combination of red and white and red, white & blue (Dutch colours) over the Prt-scrn, Scroll lock and Pause keys.

Keycaps:
- Ivan's Black on Black PBT keycaps
- SkiData Orange on Charcoal (a.k.a. Orange Dolch) :P
- White on Black Cherry doubleshots

All in ANSI with 1.25 mods.

Extras: Acrylic side pieces, sleeved usb cable.

I'm going with a red & black theme here to match my computer case. :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 14 April 2014, 02:49:35

What's everyone's going to look like? Colors, switches, leds?

Case: Grey-on-grey

Switch type: 62g mx clears

LEDs: Combination of red,orange, white

Keycaps: Ivan's black-on-black pbt or dolch :P ANSI 1.25

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 14 April 2014, 02:55:33
I got black and black case.
Planning on installing lubed and stickered MX Blacks with lighter springs from sprit's GB.
LEDs probably red, blue, maybe orange.
Looks like were all waiting for Ivan's black on black GB .. :D

Also interested in acrylic pieces, so if anyone's doing a mini GB for that I'd be in.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 14 April 2014, 04:04:18
Haha yeah, but we'll probably have to wait a couple more months I guess. Still, I am looking forward to see how they turn out.

When I get some money again I will ask a nearby production company how much a run of the acrylic pieces would cost. I could do a mini GB for them even though I have no experience with that.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Mon, 14 April 2014, 08:04:15
I have ordered 1 orion kit + 1 extra plate and PCB. Does any1 know any other housing fit this pcb?


Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:02:33
I have ordered 1 orion kit + 1 extra plate and PCB. Does any1 know any other housing fit this pcb?

Being TKL I'll bet you could fit the PCB into several existing case designs.  May have to use a universal TKL plate, though.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:28:28
What's everyone's going to look like? Colors, switches, leds?

I went with Silver since I don't own (m)any light colored keyboards. My defaults tend to be MX White but I'm also making some jailhouse blues to try and imitate Alps tactility in Cherry switches. So assuming I like them and the jailhouse wires don't interfere with the LED socket I might go with those. I've been installing SIP sockets for LEDs so I haven't made that decision yet since it's easy to change my mind later but the base will likely be warm white. For keycaps I'm thinking Raindrop V2 or if I can find one a Blue on White/Beige.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:24:07
Hey so am I in the first round or the second round of this? Trying to get an idea of when I should expect it.
thanks
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 18:25:42
Hey so am I in the first round or the second round of this? Trying to get an idea of when I should expect it.
thanks

Most likely 2nd
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:04:07
So the rest should ship within a week or two?  :'(
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:05:29
So the rest should ship within a week or two?  :'(

First five should ship within a week or two

The rest are prob a month away :/
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:40:34

P.s. Elton, maybe you could add a link to the post with the acrylic inserts to the OP?

They are on the 2nd post on the first page ;)

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.

I'll open Lightsaver V2 group buy next week and not after they ship cause of the delay.

Also about people who want to order Eagle/Viper from a Korean proxy, there is no point.  Viper/Eagle won't be shipped until around May anyways..

This post leads me to believe the rest will be shipping in the coming weeks though. Am I missing something?
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:44:09

Duck can only ship 5 at the moment.  They had more orders than anticipated, so they need to make more. It'll take no more than 2-3 weeks to ship the rest. A week or so to mill them and a few days to anodize. Very sorry about the delay.


This is what you're looking for; 'the rest' is the majority of the people waiting on orion to ship

I say a month cause the shipping for the first five hasn't begun yet.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:45:20
I don't think he shipped any yet otherwise he would have let me know.  He said when they're ready to ship, he will tell me. Probably in the coming week or so..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:52:05
Does anyone know how to use the keymapping program? I tried to create a .hex file but it wouldn't let me save the keymap that I created.

Shoot me a PM with some screenshots and I'll help you out.

Where can I find the tool? Thanks!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:56:47
Does anyone know how to use the keymapping program? I tried to create a .hex file but it wouldn't let me save the keymap that I created.

Shoot me a PM with some screenshots and I'll help you out.

Where can I find the tool? Thanks!

You can grab it here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program).
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:22:13
Man these guys are so talented.  How do they manage to create such ugly interfaces???
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:27:07
Man these guys are so talented.  How do they manage to create such ugly interfaces???

Ugly? That's mean... It's not like you need to use it everyday. I'm under the impression that most keyboard firmware don't even have graphical interface. What they created is really nice IMO.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:32:57
My intention is not to be mean.  I know it doesn't matter very much.  I just find it funny that everything out of OTD is so aesthetically pleasing except for the GUI.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:34:23
My intention is not to be mean.  I know it doesn't matter very much.  I just find it funny that everything out of OTD is so aesthetically pleasing except for the GUI.

They dress up what matters? :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Tue, 15 April 2014, 22:12:38
Quote
You can grab it here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program).

Thanks! I keep getting a 403/404... I'll try again later!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 15 April 2014, 22:19:36
I can't help but check the black orion photos on duck's website every freaking day.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 15 April 2014, 23:11:20
I can't help but check the black orion photos on duck's website every freaking day.

No, you're not the only one :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Tue, 15 April 2014, 23:23:14
I can't help but check the black orion photos on duck's website every freaking day.

It's getting to the point where I think it's unhealthy  :-X ........ :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: YongJK on Sun, 20 April 2014, 08:12:04
I received mine two weeks+ ago.
Local orders are earlier.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 20 April 2014, 08:15:23
Ugh want mine.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 11:11:46
I heard they might be shipping this week ;)
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 20 April 2014, 11:13:16
I heard they might be shipping this week ;)
It prob didn't happen last week cause of Good Friday/Easter :/
Good news though
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sun, 20 April 2014, 20:22:51
I heard they might be shipping this week ;)

I guess at least I have something to look forward then .. (since I didn't get a bro or clack)  :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 20 April 2014, 21:40:03
Anyone have one of these or the lightsaver who can tell me about the angle?  It seems very steep, and I tend to go for very flat boards.  How does it feel?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 20 April 2014, 21:42:51

Anyone have one of these or the lightsaver who can tell me about the angle?  It seems very steep, and I tend to go for very flat boards.  How does it feel?

11 degrees
Steeper than ..say, a QFR
No clue on feel
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 20 April 2014, 22:18:39
I'm a little worried about it, but I suppose I'll cope
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 20 April 2014, 22:19:54
I'm a little worried about it, but I suppose I'll cope

Maybe you can cut an Accrylic bottom to make it flatter?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 21 April 2014, 00:01:05
I'm a little worried about it, but I suppose I'll cope

Maybe you can cut an Accrylic bottom to make it flatter?

That would make it higher too though  :p
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 21 April 2014, 00:06:12
I'm a little worried about it, but I suppose I'll cope

Maybe you can cut an Accrylic bottom to make it flatter?

That would make it higher too though  :p

He means something like this:

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/586/165/58d3c769c2dc4cd84753782f1431ac8b.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:56:01

Also for those interested, here are the acrylic plate and insert drawings.

acrylic plate: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172
acrylic side inserts: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=460
                             http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=502

You can download the attachments near the bottom of their post

Just wondering if anyone has these drawings in a raster format (like JPEG) so I can send them to a few guys in the LA area and get quotes. When I open the .dwg and .dxf with the Autodesk viewer I downloaded from their website, I get a bunch of errors. Anyone else have this issue?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 09:54:21
The Orions are still in the anodizing process, so it won't be able to ship this week. They said it will be shipped next week for sure. Sorry for the delay again. Hopefully this is the last one. :))
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 10:00:49
lol, anyone out of this GB??? :3 I am waitng to buy one :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 24 April 2014, 10:02:41
The Orions are still in the anodizing process, so it won't be able to ship this week. They said it will be shipped next week for sure. Sorry for the delay again. Hopefully this is the last one. :))
Soooooooo... is that round one or will this mean that after this week everyone who is in this GB will soon get their hands on them? :P
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 10:10:32
There are no rounds. Everyone's will be shipped together.

This one didn't really have a limit... You could've ordered one unless you meant lightsaver v2
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 11:34:57
for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538

The anodizing place only makes this grey. They can use another company but the quality isn't as good.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 24 April 2014, 12:14:24
for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538

The anodizing place only makes this grey. They can use another company but the quality isn't as good.

Do you have a copy of one of those photos showing the color?  I always have trouble loading from Korea.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 24 April 2014, 12:35:03

for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538

The anodizing place only makes this grey. They can use another company but the quality isn't as good.

Ah so they ran out entirely and have to make more? just when I thought I'd get mine first :(

And that grey is still cool, it's not that deep of a blue tint
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:26:14
Like these 2

or you can go here
http://duck0113.tistory.com/91
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 24 April 2014, 17:31:42
for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538

The anodizing place only makes this grey. They can use another company but the quality isn't as good.
Can i change the color in my order?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:15:28
Let me know what colour.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:52:08
Grey for the top and silver for the bottom
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:59:13
First of all I am really sorry for the grey colour issue.

 I suggest who ordered grey, please stay with the colour.  I think it's too late to change.. They will give you guys side windows and stabilizer set for free...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 24 April 2014, 19:04:40
I think it's cool. :) I sure won't turn down freebies, though
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 24 April 2014, 19:11:09

First of all I am really sorry for the grey colour issue.

 I suggest who ordered grey, please stay with the colour.  I think it's too late to change.. They will give you guys side windows and stabilizer set for free...

Okay didn't know this was being added
All is forgiven, you can ignore my PM then :P
Do we get to choose the size wire?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 24 April 2014, 19:33:40
I would like to add a set of side windows and stab if that is possible.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Fri, 25 April 2014, 05:00:27
First of all I am really sorry for the grey colour issue.

 I suggest who ordered grey, please stay with the colour.  I think it's too late to change.. They will give you guys side windows and stabilizer set for free...

What about the center plate? Had to ask! :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 25 April 2014, 06:06:31
Orion plate is Stainless steel, so it doesn't go through anodize process.

It will be the same mirror finish as Light Saver 96.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 25 April 2014, 06:13:37
Orion plate is Stainless steel, so it doesn't go through anodize process.

It will be the same mirror finish as Light Saver 96.
I think he means the acrylic plate we see on Duck's website. ;)

EDIT: Like this
(http://cfile7.uf.tistory.com/image/2607804F52DA5F9C16B21A)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 25 April 2014, 12:38:32

Orion plate is Stainless steel, so it doesn't go through anodize process.

It will be the same mirror finish as Light Saver 96.
I think he means the acrylic plate we see on Duck's website. ;)

EDIT: Like this
Show Image
(http://cfile7.uf.tistory.com/image/2607804F52DA5F9C16B21A)


I don't believe any of us are getting that acrylic plate
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 25 April 2014, 12:41:30
I don't believe any of us are getting that acrylic plate


It can be easily made.  When I finally get my board I can look into having those fabricated, too.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 25 April 2014, 12:48:19
I don't believe any of us are getting that acrylic plate


It can be easily made.  When I finally get my board I can look into having those fabricated, too.

You have the .dwg for the acrylic plate that sits between the two alum pieces? It'd be pretty sweet if we could get that piece too huh :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 12:51:36
I think that's one of the files in the second post on this thread.  Here this one:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172

I might take this over to TAP plastics and have them cut it, does anyone know the thickness?  Unless someone is still planning on having some place do a run for us, it'll probably be cheaper than what I find in California...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 25 April 2014, 12:59:29
I'd probably use 1mm.  Just enough to let some light out.

By the way, for cleaner edges, might want to use polycarb instead of acrylic.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Fri, 25 April 2014, 17:26:52
I might take this over to TAP plastics and have them cut it, does anyone know the thickness?  Unless someone is still planning on having some place do a run for us, it'll probably be cheaper than what I find in California...

Check out post 384 in this thread, no one replied though... I have been sending the drawings to a few folks in LA but I need it in raster format.  Either way I'm interested if someone sets something up.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 17:45:10
I might take this over to TAP plastics and have them cut it, does anyone know the thickness?  Unless someone is still planning on having some place do a run for us, it'll probably be cheaper than what I find in California...

Check out post 384 in this thread, no one replied though... I have been sending the drawings to a few folks in LA but I need it in raster format.  Either way I'm interested if someone sets something up.

I missed your post.... It seemed to open fine for me in illustrator.  Screenshot attached.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Fri, 25 April 2014, 20:01:37
I missed your post.... It seemed to open fine for me in illustrator.  Screenshot attached.

Thanks but it doesn't do much good without dimensions :) I'll try to download another dwg viewer.

Edit: got it working, I'll send the drawings out to a few places, get quotes and post them on here.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ajunakey on Sat, 26 April 2014, 02:37:07
Orion plate is Stainless steel, so it doesn't go through anodize process.

It will be the same mirror finish as Light Saver 96.
I think he means the acrylic plate we see on Duck's website. ;)

EDIT: Like this
Show Image
(http://cfile7.uf.tistory.com/image/2607804F52DA5F9C16B21A)


drool
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sat, 26 April 2014, 04:08:17
i hope i am not too late to join. I just pm  Elton for order 1 Orion (may be 2). :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:19:47
i hope i am not too late to join. I just pm  Elton for order 1 Orion (may be 2). :D

i hope i am not too late to join. I just pm  Elton for order 1 Orion (may be 2). :D
You are desperately late unfortunately. It will probably be a while before they get made again.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:18:58
i know Jaccow. I am trying my luck. If someone want to sell now, i'll take it.

i hope i am not too late to join. I just pm  Elton for order 1 Orion (may be 2). :D

i hope i am not too late to join. I just pm  Elton for order 1 Orion (may be 2). :D
You are desperately late unfortunately. It will probably be a while before they get made again.



Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:23:09
Don't think these would get made again, if anything, there will be a next version and improved one, but question is when?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:12:18
[attachimg=1]

excitement builder with what mine will look like!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:30:30
(Attachment Link)

excitement builder with what mine will look like!

This weeeeeek...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:31:54
(Attachment Link)

excitement builder with what mine will look like!

This weeeeeek...  ;D ;D ;D

Don't remind me of the anxiety that is checking this page every couple hours ):
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:12:08
I missed your post.... It seemed to open fine for me in illustrator.  Screenshot attached.

Thanks but it doesn't do much good without dimensions :) I'll try to download another dwg viewer.

Edit: got it working, I'll send the drawings out to a few places, get quotes and post them on here.

Great, I'll definitely be in for one.
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 19:03:41
Last chance for address change. PM me if needed

I already mentioned shipping would be soon, so I'll assume everyone is set with their address. I'll confirm with them that all is ready to ship.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:15:23
So in anticipation (elton with the good news!) I've been messing with the programming tool. I ran that page through Google Translate and I have a mostly good idea of the different functions available on the keyboard but I have to admit, there are some things that are just a big question mark to me... I'll probably figure it all out once I get the keyboard put together =) How have you guys modified the default layout? Did you shuffle some of the layers around? I think it's pretty good as is...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:21:00

So in anticipation (elton with the good news!) I've been messing with the programming tool. I ran that page through Google Translate and I have a mostly good idea of the different functions available on the keyboard but I have to admit, there are some things that are just a big question mark to me... I'll probably figure it all out once I get the keyboard put together =) How have you guys modified the default layout? Did you shuffle some of the layers around? I think it's pretty good as is...

We need a key mapping 101 class :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:20:34
Don't ask me, I have no idea how to use it. Lol

Anyway, as I've said before, those who ordered grey will receive free set of stabilizers and side acrylic inserts.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 01 May 2014, 02:36:24
Whyyyyyyyy?!?! I ordered black and I want those inserts...
Already have some good stabilizers. Pcb-mounted screw on from Cherry :D

Is the timeline on these getting closer? Any ETA?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Thu, 01 May 2014, 11:20:45
Is the timeline on these getting closer? Any ETA?

Slow your roll. When more details are available, I'm sure they'll be posted
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 01 May 2014, 12:19:13

Is the timeline on these getting closer? Any ETA?

Slow your roll. When more details are available, I'm sure they'll be posted

I'd say any minute now :)
Maybe tomorrow?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 04 May 2014, 22:08:28
Any update? Are keyboards shipped out yet?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 04 May 2014, 22:10:16
Yeah where's this Orion!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 22:11:19
Last email I received from them was that they were ready to ship and will update with tracking when they're available...but I haven't received anything yet...I'm still waiting for their reply.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 04 May 2014, 22:17:25
Yeah where's this Orion!

Are you more anxious than me?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 04 May 2014, 22:18:45
Yeah where's this Orion!

Are you more anxious than me?

Yeah I love Duck boards
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 04 May 2014, 22:19:10
I wants my preciousssss.

That reminds me I have to buy myself some brown switches ASAP
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 07 May 2014, 01:42:09
I wants my preciousssss.

That reminds me I have to buy myself some brown switches ASAP

Were you still gonna look into running a mini buy for acrylic pieces?  ;D

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 07 May 2014, 07:26:00
Yes.  Would probably need like 5 guys to make it worth it.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Wed, 07 May 2014, 07:27:41
Yes.  Would probably need like 5 guys to make it worth it.


I would be interested if it happens.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Wed, 07 May 2014, 08:59:03

Yes.  Would probably need like 5 guys to make it worth it.


I would be interested if it happens.

I'm in as well.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 07 May 2014, 09:11:13

Yes.  Would probably need like 5 guys to make it worth it.


I would be interested if it happens.

I'm in as well.

In
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:13:35
All orders were shipped yesterday (Korean time). Shipping was delayed due to a 6 day holiday there. I'll PM the tracking # to each individually when I get them.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:21:12
Awesome! Thanks for the update Elton. I hope I can get mine before 5/14 so I can assemble it before leaving for summer. But I won't hold my hope high.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:22:13
All orders were shipped yesterday (Korean time). Shipping was delayed due to a 6 day holiday there. I'll PM the tracking # to each individually when I get them.

Thanks again for organizing things Elton.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:27:11
Not at all. :D

EMS is pretty fast. Usually 2-3 days.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:35:10
Not at all. :D

EMS is pretty fast. Usually 2-3 days.

Awesome! The big shipping cost is well worth it then.  :))
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 07 May 2014, 12:01:26

All orders were shipped yesterday (Korean time). Shipping was delayed due to a 6 day holiday there. I'll PM the tracking # to each individually when I get them.

Thanks for managing this stuff!
OH BOY
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 12:06:29

Yes.  Would probably need like 5 guys to make it worth it.


I would be interested if it happens.

I'm in as well.

In

In
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 07 May 2014, 12:08:36
Yeah, thanks for organizing, Elton :D.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 07 May 2014, 12:10:44

Yes.  Would probably need like 5 guys to make it worth it.


I would be interested if it happens.

I'm in as well.

In

In

Me too. If the side pieces are the same as the butterfly keypad I need a handful of them
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 07 May 2014, 12:14:25
If you want really cheap side insert, I can order a batch of them from China and distribute them in early June.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 23:19:27
Sent out all tracking # to everyone.  Let me know if I missed you somehow.

This group buy is finally done. :) 
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 07 May 2014, 23:24:34
Sent out all tracking # to everyone.  Let me know if I missed you somehow.

This group buy is finally done. :)

Hallelujah!
Well, we'll see each other at 'Post your korean keyboards' :P
Till then!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 07 May 2014, 23:54:48
Sent out all tracking # to everyone.  Let me know if I missed you somehow.

This group buy is finally done. :)

Hallelujah!
Well, we'll see each other at 'Post your korean keyboards' :P
Till then!

Gimme dat tracking number so I can be excited too (and so I know what day to be home to pick it up)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 08 May 2014, 10:29:17
Wow, great job Elton. Looking forward to seeing pics of these bad boys.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 08 May 2014, 22:23:23
My package is 44 minutes flight from Chicago! Gotta source some red switches now!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Fri, 09 May 2014, 05:18:37
My package just arrived hong kong and will be at my office on next Monday. Thanks Elton.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 09 May 2014, 07:01:44
Mine arrived at Amsterdam airport this morning! So Close!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:57:10
My package just arrived hong kong and will be at my office on next Monday. Thanks Elton.



20:00 09-May-2014    Unsuccessful delivery    HKG   
Reason : Missed delivery

Actually, you missed the delivery!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Heezy on Fri, 09 May 2014, 09:07:59
Filled with jealousy!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Fri, 09 May 2014, 10:18:32
Mine hasn't updated since it presumably left Korea on the 8th :( I want!
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 09 May 2014, 10:30:18
Mine hasn't updated since it presumably left Korea on the 8th :( I want!
You have to switch the category to international parcel
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 09 May 2014, 10:30:42
You can also use your local post to track. 

USPS
CanadaPost
etc
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 10 May 2014, 10:44:45
Am I the first one to receive the package?  :))  :))
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:03:48
I wish USPS delivered on Saturday -__- gotta wait til monday.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:06:27
Am I the first one to receive the package?  :))  :))

Picz
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:18:10
Am I the first one to receive the package?  :))  :))

Picz

There you go. Time to make everyone jelly!

(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03528.jpg)
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03529.jpg)
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03530.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:19:35

Am I the first one to receive the package?  :))  :))

Picz

There you go. Time to make everyone jelly!

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03528.jpg)

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03529.jpg)

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03530.jpg)


My mouth is watering :(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: billnye on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:22:13
Am I the first one to receive the package?  :))  :))

Picz

There you go. Time to make everyone jelly!

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03528.jpg)

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03529.jpg)

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03530.jpg)


Wow, that case looks really nice!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:43:29
Am I the first one to receive the package?  :))  :))

Picz

There you go. Time to make everyone jelly!

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03528.jpg)

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03529.jpg)

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/DSC03530.jpg)


Now build it!!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:53:03
Now build it!!

Now I need your opions guys. Which color looks better on this silver plate? Grey switch or Red switch.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:56:53
I think gray switch with silver plate + black case would look HOT
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 10 May 2014, 12:00:00
Or red switch tops with grey switches. :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 10 May 2014, 12:31:36
out for delivery !!!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 14:57:49
Just received mine as well, here's gray. I think the bleu'ish turned out nice

(http://i.imgur.com/aDINdq7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ED5an5u.png)

The side-window and stabs were a nice added bonus, thanks Elton

(http://i.imgur.com/Gf8IX4H.png)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: avtar on Sat, 10 May 2014, 15:01:57
Just received mine as well, here's gray. I think the bleu'ish turned out nice

WTB! :'(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 10 May 2014, 15:07:09

Just received mine as well, here's gray. I think the bleu'ish turned out nice

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/aDINdq7.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ED5an5u.png)


The side-window and stabs were a nice added bonus, thanks Elton

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Gf8IX4H.png)


So jealous atm :(
It doesn't even look blue in that pic o.o
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 10 May 2014, 15:43:50
Did you get only 1 side window or a pair?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 16:27:03
It doesn't even look blue in that pic o.o

Yeah, has a very slight blue tint under certain lighting... but I'm colorblind so don't take my word for it :)

Did you get only 1 side window or a pair?

Ahh sorry, included 2 windows and stabs (not pictured)

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: chocobunny on Sat, 10 May 2014, 21:28:25
Got mine but can't put it together until the stabs I ordered arrive.:(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Heezy on Sat, 10 May 2014, 21:44:46
Just received mine as well, here's gray. I think the bleu'ish turned out nice

WTB! :'(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: lionblinds on Sat, 10 May 2014, 21:58:03
I receive the package today,but  :( :( :(
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 10 May 2014, 21:58:04
Oh man, they tried to deliver mine today too but I wasn't home!  grrrr
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:02:14
Oh man, they tried to deliver mine today too but I wasn't home!  grrrr

I was at home, and missed it. I swear the USPS guy just drops a slip off and doesn't even ring/knock.

I hate having to wait until Monday.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: chocobunny on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:21:31
Crappy picture of mine in silver:
(http://i.imgur.com/wBk00RQl.jpg?1) (http://i.imgur.com/wBk00RQ.jpg?1)

I receive the package today,but  :( :( :(
(Attachment Link)

It'll get covered up by the top part. :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:16:19
Got mine today... black top, grey base. I love the color scheme. Very impressed with the finish.

Anyway, after a day in the sun I started assembly. I popped my red switches in, test fit my keys, everything was in order, I started soldering... had a bit over half the joints done (switches only, no LEDs yet), then I stopped... and realized I had forgotten to insert two sets of stabilizers  :eek:

My solder pump is broken so I guess I have to put this on hold until Monday evening... oh well  :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JizzGus on Sun, 11 May 2014, 01:08:54
can't wait till i get mine, should probably buy my switches now. Speaking of which should i be buying pcb or plate mounted switches for this?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 11 May 2014, 01:11:01
can't wait till i get mine, should probably buy my switches now. Speaking of which should i be buying pcb or plate mounted switches for this?

Both work equally well on Orion. Plate mount switches are usually cheaper.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JizzGus on Sun, 11 May 2014, 02:03:43
well im looking to get them from mechanicalkeyboards.com and they are the same price, unless there is another place that is cheaper.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:16:01
well im looking to get them from mechanicalkeyboards.com and they are the same price, unless there is another place that is cheaper.

I thought MK only have plate mounted switches. I just realised they have PCB mounted clear. Too bad I only use linear switches. I really want to get some reasonably priced linear switches for my face-W build.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sun, 11 May 2014, 13:47:52
anyone can sell it to me :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:05:23
Just got mine. What I can say is: the packaging is excellent and there is no chance to damage the board and housing.

Great thanks to Elton.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: gainz8 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:35:02
pay almost 500$ for a keyboard and it doesn't even include stabalizers. lmao
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:36:08
pay almost 500$ for a keyboard and it doesn't even include stabalizers. lmao

Funny how you always whine about prices.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 12 May 2014, 02:01:56

pay almost 500$ for a keyboard and it doesn't even include stabalizers. lmao

This keyboard's two-piece aluminium with custom cnc'd side cut-outs--of course it's more expensive than the usual korean custom

It's not supposed to be a bargain, as it's not exactly high in supply
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 12 May 2014, 06:47:22
pay almost 500$ for a keyboard and it doesn't even include stabalizers. lmao

That post was seriously stupid.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:47:32
I picked mine up at the post office today.  I haven't had time to take a close look at it but let me just say that the packing job is fantastic.  These guys are legit.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:52:06
I picked mine up at the post office today.  I haven't had time to take a close look at it but let me just say that the packing job is fantastic.  These guys are legit.

Yeah, took me 10 minutes to unpack the damn thing since it was packed so well... no complaints.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:52:32

I picked mine up at the post office today.  I haven't had time to take a close look at it but let me just say that the packing job is fantastic.  These guys are legit.

Too legit to quit. Can't say the same for drugER :S

Get them pics quick :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:05:29
Calvin's is here

(http://i.imgur.com/Y1moWwz.jpg)

Can follow progress here : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57166.msg1327029#msg1327029

I'll be busy for a bit so might not get to it til later this week :( Will have it shipped out by Monday at the latest
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:09:47

Calvin's is here

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Y1moWwz.jpg)


Can follow progress here : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57166.msg1327029#msg1327029

I'll be busy for a bit so might not get to it til later this week :( Will have it shipped out by Monday at the latest

Take good care of my baby :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:17:40
I'll be busy for a bit so might not get to it til later this week :( Will have it shipped out by Monday at the latest

Way too slow!
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:19:34
I'll be busy for a bit so might not get to it til later this week :( Will have it shipped out by Monday at the latest

Way too slow!
Lol my shipping delays are worse
I can wait :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:22:27
What delays? It was like 3 business days!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:25:01
Turnaround time from me should be less than 3 business days too :P Monday is just by the latest. In fact, it's gonna be Victoria Day then so I'll get it out on Friday by the latest.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 00:18:43
Were we all supposed to get the acrylic pieces? Seems like some people received them but my package didn't seem to have them.

Regardless, fantastic package and product. Mine arrived and looks great! Seems like a very successful group buy. Well done!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 00:19:38

Were we all supposed to get the acrylic pieces? Seems like some people received them but my package didn't seem to have them.

Regardless, fantastic package and product. Mine arrived and looks great! Seems like a very successful group buy. Well done!
Just for those who ordered grey :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 00:21:58

Were we all supposed to get the acrylic pieces? Seems like some people received them but my package didn't seem to have them.

Regardless, fantastic package and product. Mine arrived and looks great! Seems like a very successful group buy. Well done!
Just for those who ordered grey :S

Your S face confuses me. Are you cereal?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 00:23:14

Were we all supposed to get the acrylic pieces? Seems like some people received them but my package didn't seem to have them.

Regardless, fantastic package and product. Mine arrived and looks great! Seems like a very successful group buy. Well done!
Just for those who ordered grey :S

Your S face confuses me. Are you cereal?

It's a random face i use, yes im cereal
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 00:25:51

Were we all supposed to get the acrylic pieces? Seems like some people received them but my package didn't seem to have them.

Regardless, fantastic package and product. Mine arrived and looks great! Seems like a very successful group buy. Well done!
Just for those who ordered grey :S

Your S face confuses me. Are you cereal?

It's a random face i use, yes im cereal

Crap, I must've misread. Should've ordered grey! Very happy with mine, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:53:38
Crap, I must've misread. Should've ordered grey! Very happy with mine, nonetheless.

IC for mini GB about to start...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: epzy on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:55:29
Crap, I must've misread. Should've ordered grey! Very happy with mine, nonetheless.

IC for mini GB about to start...

Really? AWESOME!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:55:39

Crap, I must've misread. Should've ordered grey! Very happy with mine, nonetheless.

IC for mini GB about to start...

Lol it never hurts to grab more acrylic pieces right?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:57:01
The problem is that they don't attach.  They just fill the space.  So if you pick up the keyboard, they stay on the table.  Does Duck intend for them to be glued?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:59:03
The problem is that they don't attach.  They just fill the space.  So if you pick up the keyboard, they stay on the table.  Does Duck intend for them to be glued?

Can't remember where I saw this, but I think he intends for them to be stuck on with double sided tape.

I'm personally more interested in the acrylic plate that sits between the PCB and the bottom of the case, but would pitch in for both.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: epzy on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:59:21
The problem is that they don't attach.  They just fill the space.  So if you pick up the keyboard, they stay on the table.  Does Duck intend for them to be glued?

Double sided tape?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:59:25

The problem is that they don't attach.  They just fill the space.  So if you pick up the keyboard, they stay on the table.  Does Duck intend for them to be glued?

I thought that the pieces weren't held on only for viper etc.
If not, double sided tape is the solution
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 16:09:34
I'm personally more interested in the acrylic plate that sits between the PCB and the bottom of the case, but would pitch in for both.

yes that's the only part I want as well.  ( I had gray so I got the consolatory inserts)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Tue, 13 May 2014, 17:35:25
The problem is that they don't attach.  They just fill the space.  So if you pick up the keyboard, they stay on the table.  Does Duck intend for them to be glued?

I remember Elton had his attached with double sided tape. Not viable for moving around but good enough for when it's stationary. I'd be in for acrylic side pieces and the plate as well  :-*
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 20:16:17
Well, there's a problem.  The drawing files define a part that appears to be the correct shape, but is the wrong size.  They define a part that is about 4 inches long, and the Orion's insert is more like 3.25 inches long.  Not sure what's going on here.

The spacer plate would be $7.30 each (plus shipping to organizer, plus shipping) if we can get 5 takers.  Next tier would be 10.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 20:17:56
Oh darn, might be because that's for the V1 style cases.  Let me see if I can get one for the V2 style.


Recommended way to stick your acrylic side inserts by Duck
http://duck0113.tistory.com/88
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 20:25:20
Oh darn, might be because that's for the V1 style cases.  Let me see if I can get one for the V2 style.


Recommended way to stick your acrylic side inserts by Duck
http://duck0113.tistory.com/88

Thanks elton, you've been good to us.

If possible, DXF is better than DWG.  (It's open source compatible)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 20:54:47
Here's the drawing for the side acrylic insert

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206

It is DXF file ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:15:03
Here's the drawing for the side acrylic insert

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206

It is DXF file ;)

I need a pair of both styles (:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:18:59
The DXF doesn't include any engraving.

Sound off boys.  Interest check form is online here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Xl9mS9HW_M5sp-ChHg29bqYcDeUx9SDH3XlYTIe_j3o/viewform?usp=send_form).
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:21:32
The DXF doesn't include any engraving.

Sound off boys.  Interest check form is online here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Xl9mS9HW_M5sp-ChHg29bqYcDeUx9SDH3XlYTIe_j3o/viewform?usp=send_form).

Wow, did not know the plate was also on the menu! Good surprise (:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:26:30
Yeah, in case anyone doesn't know, it goes behind the PCB and spreads out the back-facing LED light around as an edge glow.

The plate at MOQ 5 is $7.30, plus organizer ship, plus taxes/fees, plus shipping.
The inserts at MOQ 10 are $3.99 ($8 for a set of two) plus all shipping/fees.

rough estimate is 1 kit to be about $20 plus shipping to you.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:27:50
Damn that is expensive for the inserts :O
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:35:45
Damn that is expensive for the inserts :O

Indeed.  Small MOQs are a killer.  1000 pieces would be half that price.
5 or more $6.20
10 or more $3.99
50 or more $2.25
100 or more $2.11
1000 or more $1.99

Also Made-in-USA...

Note: if someone wants to do it in China, I'm perfectly willing to give it up.  To be honest it would save me a bunch of work.  Please only speak up if you've worked with a company before, though.  It would be a shame to tarnish this wonderful Orion project.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:58:05

Yeah, in case anyone doesn't know, it goes behind the PCB and spreads out the back-facing LED light around as an edge glow.

The plate at MOQ 5 is $7.30, plus organizer ship, plus taxes/fees, plus shipping.
The inserts at MOQ 10 are $3.99 ($8 for a set of two) plus all shipping/fees.

rough estimate is 1 kit to be about $20 plus shipping to you.
I'm just wondering
But is there a chance we can have other colour acrylics if the interest is high enough? Although I'm not sure if there's such a thing as transparent/translucent coloured acrylic
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:16:22
Sure there is.  And BTW, the MOQ is actually 1 for everything, it's just that it's stupid expensive below the second tier.

EDIT: I'm wrong.  This guy only has clears and opaques.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:20:14
Sure there is.  And BTW, the MOQ is actually 1 for everything, it's just that it's stupid expensive below the second tier.

EDIT: I'm wrong.  This guy only has clears and opaques.

Oh I'd love to order a set of opaque alongside a set of clears :O
Count me in!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:33:22
Damn that is expensive for the inserts :O

Indeed.  Small MOQs are a killer.  1000 pieces would be half that price.
5 or more $6.20
10 or more $3.99
50 or more $2.25
100 or more $2.11
1000 or more $1.99

Also Made-in-USA...

Note: if someone wants to do it in China, I'm perfectly willing to give it up.  To be honest it would save me a bunch of work.  Please only speak up if you've worked with a company before, though.  It would be a shame to tarnish this wonderful Orion project.

elton, do you know if the insert sizes are the same for the Orion, Viper/Eagle, Lightsaver V2, and Butterfly? If so we might be able to get a better MOQ on the side inserts by breaking that out and offering it to everyone in those GBs as well. If the cutout sizes are all slightly different it's moot though.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:35:28
Damn that is expensive for the inserts :O

Indeed.  Small MOQs are a killer.  1000 pieces would be half that price.
5 or more $6.20
10 or more $3.99
50 or more $2.25
100 or more $2.11
1000 or more $1.99

Also Made-in-USA...

Note: if someone wants to do it in China, I'm perfectly willing to give it up.  To be honest it would save me a bunch of work.  Please only speak up if you've worked with a company before, though.  It would be a shame to tarnish this wonderful Orion project.

elton, do you know if the insert sizes are the same for the Orion, Viper/Eagle, Lightsaver V2, and Butterfly? If so we might be able to get a better MOQ on the side inserts by breaking that out and offering it to everyone in those GBs as well. If the cutout sizes are all slightly different it's moot though.

I was thinking the same thing.  My lightsaver v2 purchase could use some accompanying side inserts, and if they're all the same size I'd like to contribute to (and benefit from) this MOQ.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:39:59
Probably not the Butterfly as they have the same style as V1's.

Let me check
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 13 May 2014, 23:53:58
Finally.

(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/orion_done.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 14 May 2014, 00:01:29
Finally.

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/orion_done.jpg)


Lookin' good. Is that a lock switch in the right alt position?

Here's potato pic of mine.
(http://i.imgur.com/LN4ZvFN.jpg)

Looking all sad without side acrylic inserts.
(http://i.imgur.com/Y0UQHno.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 14 May 2014, 00:04:09
Finally.

Show Image
(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/orion_done.jpg)


Lookin' good. Is that a lock switch in the right alt position?

Here's potato pic of mine.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LN4ZvFN.jpg)


Looking all sad without side acrylic inserts.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Y0UQHno.jpg)


You stole my idea! I was just about to post mine with Dolch on it. Yes it's a lock switch (with no actual practical sense but to look cool  :)) )
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 14 May 2014, 00:45:11
You stole my idea! I was just about to post mine with Dolch on it. Yes it's a lock switch (with no actual practical sense but to look cool  :)) )

Hehe  :p. It does look cool.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:39:01
OK, so here is the final version. WoB looks *amazing* on Orion. Even though my WoB set is shiny, I still love this combo. I will take better picture with sun light when I wake up.

(http://yicaoyimu.com/picture/orion/orion_wob.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: epzy on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:46:41
Yeah, in case anyone doesn't know, it goes behind the PCB and spreads out the back-facing LED light around as an edge glow.

The plate at MOQ 5 is $7.30, plus organizer ship, plus taxes/fees, plus shipping.
The inserts at MOQ 10 are $3.99 ($8 for a set of two) plus all shipping/fees.

rough estimate is 1 kit to be about $20 plus shipping to you.

I'd be fine with paying $20.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:51:59
Now that it's finally here I can't decide: Tactile or clicky?  :-\
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:54:48
Now that it's finally here I can't decide: Tactile or clicky?  :-\

I'm trying to make that decision myself.  My favorite switch is MX brown, but I have a bunch of nice vintage blues handy that might be nice.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:58:46

clicky :P
Now that it's finally here I can't decide: Tactile or clicky?  :-\

So, anyone dont like your Orion, please PM to me  :'( >:D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 12:04:05
Looks like one of my SMD glow lights is toast.  Any one else have this problem?  I ordered two PCBs, the other one lights up all 4 (fortunately I tested before soldering).

Is there a good way to test if the problem is with the LED or the board?  Pretty new to this, I have a digital multimeter. If it's the LED, does anyone know exactly which kind and where I could order a replacement?  My soldering iron's tip is just small enough to fit around the LED, I might be able to get it off...  Not sure if I can get another back on there so cleanly, however.

EDIT:
Image posted upside down for some reason (looks straight on my machine), trying to fix it...
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:13:45
(http://i.imgur.com/Okzvps2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8kEgttM.jpg)

How to bootloader?

Also someone please sell me theirs >_>
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:23:41
Oh my.  I can't wait to build mine.
I've decided to go with vintage blues from my busted Dolch and multi colored LEDs.

Does this board have different LED zones?
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 20:10:19
Oh my.  I can't wait to build mine.
I've decided to go with vintage blues from my busted Dolch and multi colored LEDs.

Does this board have different LED zones?

It does! Check duck0113's tistory for a  section on the different led modes
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 20:17:11
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Okzvps2.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8kEgttM.jpg)


How to bootloader?

Also someone please sell me theirs >_>

Why not to assemble other people's keyboards: you don't get to keep them :'(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:10
This is compatible chart for side windows.


LightPad = LightSaver V1

Orion

Viper = Eagle

LightSaver V2

That sucks. :(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:00:03

This is compatible chart for side windows.


LightPad = LightSaver V1

Orion

Viper = Eagle

LightSaver V2

That sucks. :(

So are the conciliatory side windows that came with the grey colour orders of the Orion variety?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:08:14

This is compatible chart for side windows.


LightPad = LightSaver V1

Orion

Viper = Eagle

LightSaver V2

That sucks. :(

So are the conciliatory side windows that came with the grey colour orders of the Orion variety?

Seems to fit from when I tried to put them on. Then realized I don't know how to actually put them on... so I put them back in the bag for you.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:12:20
It does! Check duck0113's tistory for a  section on the different led modes

Thanks I found it.  Looks like there are 5 zones in the video:
F1: F1-F12
F2: num row, modifiers, and space
F3: alphas
F4: all right-side clusters
F5: backside LEDs

Caps and Scroll are obviously separate.  not sure what Esc does
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:13:10
So are the conciliatory side windows that came with the grey colour orders of the Orion variety?

Yes they fit the Orion, obviously.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:15:46
So are the conciliatory side windows that came with the grey colour orders of the Orion variety?

Yes they fit the Orion, obviously.

Lol iunno, for some reason I thought they were leftovers from lightsaver/butterfly
Anyway, is double-sided tape seriously the only described method of attaching these things lol? Should I be the guinea pig and super glue them on? :S
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:20:31
Somewhere I saw a post from Duck where he taped them.  I really think that's the way to go.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:34:52
Apologies for the mess, couldn't resist posting after getting it done!  GON's 62g stickered+lubed blues and DSA Dolch. This is my first DSA set, still growing on me, I think.

What's with the flashing ESC led, btw?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:35:54
What's with the flashing ESC led, btw?

Yeah 0 idea about that too.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:51:22
Apologies for the mess, couldn't resist posting after getting it done!  GON's 62g stickered+lubed blues and DSA Dolch. This is my first DSA set, still growing on me, I think.

What's with the flashing ESC led, btw?

What do you need so many displays for?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:02:03
Apologies for the mess, couldn't resist posting after getting it done!  GON's 62g stickered+lubed blues and DSA Dolch. This is my first DSA set, still growing on me, I think.

What's with the flashing ESC led, btw?

What do you need so many displays for?

For programming, really helpful to have the full portrait screens. Although nothing helps as much as a mech keyboard :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:28:01
Apologies for the mess, couldn't resist posting after getting it done!  GON's 62g stickered+lubed blues and DSA Dolch. This is my first DSA set, still growing on me, I think.

What's with the flashing ESC led, btw?

Maybe you needa exit the keymapping/lighting mode thing in order for the esc to properly function :P

And sick board!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:56:25
I have mine all put together and it's freaking awesome... pictures to come: warning, the initial keyset is a little take on quas wex exort for you DotA folks =) although I am trying to locate a Dolch or other thick keycap set. To the classifieds I go!

I think I'm going to upload a new key map but the LED brightness has not been working for me.... maybe it will be fine with a new keymap.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 02:24:26
I have mine all put together and it's freaking awesome... pictures to come: warning, the initial keyset is a little take on quas wex exort for you DotA folks =) although I am trying to locate a Dolch or other thick keycap set. To the classifieds I go!

I think I'm going to upload a new key map but the LED brightness has not been working for me.... maybe it will be fine with a new keymap.

That sounds sick!
You have a custom keymap to add on, or do you mean your own configuration? Sounds promising either way :P
Title: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:27:39
What's with the flashing ESC led, btw?

Yeah 0 idea about that too.

The ESC key blinks a certain number of times every two seconds. The number of blinks corresponds to the layer you are in. E.g., three blinks = you're in layer 3. If you enter control mode you can turn this feature ("layer status") to blink only when you change layers.

I plan on putting together a little brain dump of everything I've learned getting this thing up and running as I want it, probably in the DIY section tonight.

Crappy Tapatalk formatting, sorry =( Potato cam pictures here:

More
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/9enehubu.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/e5emugyg.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/8ajepatu.jpg)

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:48:56
You can see the lightsaver thread for some of that information, including a flashing LED--locations are different for the Lightsaver, but the gist is the same:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Thu, 15 May 2014, 10:10:56

You can see the lightsaver thread for some of that information, including a flashing LED--locations are different for the Lightsaver, but the gist is the same:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0

Nice! Lots of great info!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 21:02:07
http://duck0113.tistory.com/94

here are the acrylic insert drawings for all related keyboards
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Fri, 16 May 2014, 08:52:17
Yeah, in case anyone doesn't know, it goes behind the PCB and spreads out the back-facing LED light around as an edge glow.

The plate at MOQ 5 is $7.30, plus organizer ship, plus taxes/fees, plus shipping.
The inserts at MOQ 10 are $3.99 ($8 for a set of two) plus all shipping/fees.

rough estimate is 1 kit to be about $20 plus shipping to you.

Will the inserts fit the Lightsaver 1 or 2?

I see my question was answered above by Elton. Oh well, wishful thinking looses! :(
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: voice on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:23:59
Nice keyboard , enjoy it
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Fri, 16 May 2014, 22:04:20
Any update on the acrylics IC? I definitely want that plate =)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 17 May 2014, 01:45:07
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkKZGmCj3KtadG91Ym96UkxWbVpFOHBPOE54RVozWUE&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkKZGmCj3KtadG91Ym96UkxWbVpFOHBPOE54RVozWUE&usp=sharing)\\

Plenty of responses.  We can move forward, no doubt.  Only question is now that elton got us all the drawings, should it be expanded to include inserts for the other boards too?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: epzy on Sat, 17 May 2014, 01:55:01
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkKZGmCj3KtadG91Ym96UkxWbVpFOHBPOE54RVozWUE&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkKZGmCj3KtadG91Ym96UkxWbVpFOHBPOE54RVozWUE&usp=sharing)\\

Plenty of responses.  We can move forward, no doubt.  Only question is now that elton got us all the drawings, should it be expanded to include inserts for the other boards too?

I think the Viper will be very popular.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: two4teezee on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:00:16
So what's the word on the acrylic inserts?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 29 May 2014, 00:20:23
this keyboard has killer LEDs. do all keyboards employ the same LED (for lack of a better word) technology? if so, why do these have the best looking LEDs i've come across.. good photographer? (i'm referring to the photos in OP's link)

hope you don't mind the offtopic question
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 29 May 2014, 00:28:47
this keyboard has killer LEDs. do all keyboards employ the same LED (for lack of a better word) technology? if so, why do these have the best looking LEDs i've come across.. good photographer? (i'm referring to the photos in OP's link)

hope you don't mind the offtopic question

It has side LEDs
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 29 May 2014, 01:04:36
i'm a bit lost - side LEDs are those under the keys and not literally on the sides of the case?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 29 May 2014, 01:09:41
i'm a bit lost - side LEDs are those under the keys and not literally on the sides of the case?

They are attached to the pcb and stick out on the sides of the case. The keyboard in OP's picture also has an acrylic plate in the middle that spreads the light around the entire keyboard.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 29 May 2014, 02:44:51
oh right, of course. i was referring to the pictures from the link the OP provided - here is one of them:

(http://cfile8.uf.tistory.com/image/2661034952DA5F9808CF3D)

the intensity (for lack of better word) of the color and lighting is superior to most backlit keyboards i've seen, so i'm merely curious as to whether it uses a different type of LED/bulb or the same type but just with different colors. kinda like how monitors can employ IPS or TN panels. sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 29 May 2014, 02:47:20
oh right, of course. i was referring to the pictures from the link the OP provided - here is one of them:

Show Image
(http://cfile8.uf.tistory.com/image/2661034952DA5F9808CF3D)


the intensity (for lack of better word) of the color and lighting is superior to most backlit keyboards i've seen, so i'm merely curious as to whether it uses a different type of LED/bulb or the same type but just with different colors. sorry for the confusion

Oh. I noticed that myself and I suppose he must be using some super bright LEDs or else just taking pictures in a way that accentuates the light.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 29 May 2014, 03:49:04
thanks for the help. guess we won't find out unless someone in the know chimes in, but in the meantime i'll go back to admiring this magnificent board

speaking of which, do you know how often keyboard groupbuys reappear, if ever? first-time groupbuys for keyboards seem to be rare enough already, but i'll be majorly bummed if i have absolutely no shot of ever getting one of these
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Fri, 30 May 2014, 02:01:27
thanks for the help. guess we won't find out unless someone in the know chimes in, but in the meantime i'll go back to admiring this magnificent board

speaking of which, do you know how often keyboard groupbuys reappear, if ever? first-time groupbuys for keyboards seem to be rare enough already, but i'll be majorly bummed if i have absolutely no shot of ever getting one of these

I'm sure elton, the groupbuy runner, can answer this question. There will probably be other boards in the future, even if this one doesn't reappear.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 30 May 2014, 15:46:13
thanks for the help. guess we won't find out unless someone in the know chimes in, but in the meantime i'll go back to admiring this magnificent board

speaking of which, do you know how often keyboard groupbuys reappear, if ever? first-time groupbuys for keyboards seem to be rare enough already, but i'll be majorly bummed if i have absolutely no shot of ever getting one of these

I'm sure elton, the groupbuy runner, can answer this question. There will probably be other boards in the future, even if this one doesn't reappear.

Yeah, watch out for TKL FMJ kit. That's what I look forward most this year.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:05:09
Did a GB for the plates and inserts ever took off?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 19 June 2014, 13:29:21
Did a GB for the plates and inserts ever took off?

nope
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:08:36
That's a shame. Guess I will have to look at a local place for these.
Where was that post again that showed the sizes?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:33:37
That's a shame. Guess I will have to look at a local place for these.
Where was that post again that showed the sizes?

Yeah, still wondering what to do myself.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:00:19
Does anyone know how to use the darn keymapper on this thing?  Man that software isn't very intuitive and it's not in english!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:01:55

Does anyone know how to use the darn keymapper on this thing?  Man that software isn't very intuitive and it's not in english!

Ikr
I asked Elton a while ago, we still got nothing

I just wanna make my caps lock normal and have the esc stop blinking :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:04:02
I have no idea how it works.  I'm definitely porting my firmware to it.  Screw this crap.  I don't even know how to get it into programming mode.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 29 June 2014, 17:18:31
Hm?  It's really not very difficult :(  See the summary in the OP here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0

Same deal as usual: create a hex file using the layout mapping software, hold the "flip" key as indicated and plug in the USB cable, run flip.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 29 June 2014, 17:51:34
What's the flip key on the Orion?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sun, 29 June 2014, 17:53:48
What's the flip key on the Orion?

Backspace
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 30 June 2014, 07:25:10

Does anyone know how to use the darn keymapper on this thing?  Man that software isn't very intuitive and it's not in english!

Ikr
I asked Elton a while ago, we still got nothing

I just wanna make my caps lock normal and have the esc stop blinking :P

Wait did I not map it back to normal???....
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 30 June 2014, 15:38:35


Does anyone know how to use the darn keymapper on this thing?  Man that software isn't very intuitive and it's not in english!

Ikr
I asked Elton a while ago, we still got nothing

I just wanna make my caps lock normal and have the esc stop blinking :P

Wait did I not map it back to normal???....

I think the norm is the blinking esc

And I'll send it over in like a week when I can finally use my HHKB :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Wed, 09 July 2014, 10:05:50
Orders:

Sets: 13
PCBs: 3
Plates: 3


Question to those ordered extra PCB + Plate set (I am one of them):
Any idea to get a case for Duck Orion TKL?
An acrylic case for steel plate + PCB?

Regards,
dragonken
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 13 July 2014, 16:38:18
Alright, so I found a place nearby that has a wide range of quality acrylic Bouwplastics.nl (http://www.bouwplastics.nl/webshop/plaatmateriaal) and I will ask them to make me one of the plates and a set of side-inserts.

Other than the side window dimensions (http://duck0113.tistory.com/94), the DXF-files (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206) and the plate drawings, what other info should I send them?

I believe the bottom plate (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172) was 2mm and the side windows 12mm? Will they be able to lasercut it based on just that?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 15 July 2014, 12:42:02
Alright, so I found a place nearby that has a wide range of quality acrylic Bouwplastics.nl (http://www.bouwplastics.nl/webshop/plaatmateriaal) and I will ask them to make me one of the plates and a set of side-inserts.

Other than the side window dimensions (http://duck0113.tistory.com/94), the DXF-files (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_tune&document_srl=153206) and the plate drawings, what other info should I send them?

I believe the bottom plate was 2mm and the side windows 12mm? Will they be able to lasercut it based on just that?

Hmm, I see the side window models but is there one for the acrylic plate?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 15 July 2014, 13:22:14
Updated with bottom plate (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172). ;)

My original question still stands though. How thick is the bottom plate?
And it seems like it doesn't offer any dimensions so it is practically useless.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:28:16
Thanks, I missed that.

Updated with bottom plate (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172). ;)

My original question still stands though. How thick is the bottom plate?
And it seems like it doesn't offer any dimensions so it is practically useless.

Looks like 2mm based on Google Translation for that link. I'll try to help you out and reach out to some plastic machine cutters to see if there's anything else needed outside of the DXF files and thickness
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 15 July 2014, 16:33:26
Thanks, I missed that.

Updated with bottom plate (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172). ;)
My original question still stands though. How thick is the bottom plate?
And it seems like it doesn't offer any dimensions so it is practically useless.
Looks like 2mm based on Google Translation for that link. I'll try to help you out and reach out to some plastic machine cutters to see if there's anything else needed outside of the DXF files and thickness
Thanks, appreciated. I haven't heard from the company I sent my request to yet. Could be that they are on holidays.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Tue, 15 July 2014, 16:35:54
Thanks, I missed that.

Updated with bottom plate (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=158172). ;)
My original question still stands though. How thick is the bottom plate?
And it seems like it doesn't offer any dimensions so it is practically useless.
Looks like 2mm based on Google Translation for that link. I'll try to help you out and reach out to some plastic machine cutters to see if there's anything else needed outside of the DXF files and thickness
Thanks, appreciated. I haven't heard from the company I sent my request to yet. Could be that they are on holidays.

Watching your progress intently. GL  :thumb: Going to have to do the same myself at some point. Do you know how the acrylic plate works? Does it just sit between the two case pieces?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 15 July 2014, 17:23:32
Watching your progress intently. GL  :thumb: Going to have to do the same myself at some point. Do you know how the acrylic plate works? Does it just sit between the two case pieces?

Duck never really posted a picture the case inside with a plate... but based on the DXF file, looks like it's a solid layer of acrylic with holes presumably for the screws to just pass through between the top/bottom of the keyboard case. So the PCB likely sits above the acrylic, not sure what kind of clearance there will be
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 21 July 2014, 19:11:59
When I held it together there seemed to be plenty of clearance. I even recall there was a picture where he just left off the bottom part and used the acrylic plate with some new feet for a flatter profile.

Question, are there any markers for the polarity of the LEDs? Margon is building mine now and he thinks he needs to load the firmware first to figure it out. If I can I would like to try to save him some time.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 21 July 2014, 19:22:11
Question, are there any markers for the polarity of the LEDs? Margon is building mine now and he thinks he needs to load the firmware first to figure it out. If I can I would like to try to save him some time.

I haven't installed LEDs on mine yet (next up), but I'm assuming it's the same as the Lightsaver:

PLEASE NOTE when installing LEDs, polarity is not indicated on the PCB, but it's the standard + on the right, - on the left, when looking at the PCB from the top (not from the bottom).  BUT, if you're doing a 1.5x modifier layout on the bottom row, note that the LEDs for the right-side Alt/GUI/Ctrl should be reversed in orientation to - / +.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 21 July 2014, 19:36:49
Question, are there any markers for the polarity of the LEDs? Margon is building mine now and he thinks he needs to load the firmware first to figure it out. If I can I would like to try to save him some time.

I haven't installed LEDs on mine yet (next up), but I'm assuming it's the same as the Lightsaver:

PLEASE NOTE when installing LEDs, polarity is not indicated on the PCB, but it's the standard + on the right, - on the left, when looking at the PCB from the top (not from the bottom).  BUT, if you're doing a 1.5x modifier layout on the bottom row, note that the LEDs for the right-side Alt/GUI/Ctrl should be reversed in orientation to - / +.

Hope that helps

It most certainly does. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:27:28
Is backspace the flip key on the orion?

Is there a flashing guide anywhere or is it all in korean? I have some korean stuff Im just tired and am lacklustre about working it out :) Apologies if it's in this thread already.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:40:17
Is backspace the flip key on the orion?

Is there a flashing guide anywhere or is it all in korean? I have some korean stuff Im just tired and am lacklustre about working it out :) Apologies if it's in this thread already.

Margo, yes the flip key is backspace for the Orion.

See "Note on Reprogramming" here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:48:04
Is backspace the flip key on the orion?

Is there a flashing guide anywhere or is it all in korean? I have some korean stuff Im just tired and am lacklustre about working it out :) Apologies if it's in this thread already.

Margo, yes the flip key is backspace for the Orion.

See "Note on Reprogramming" here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0)

I'd just found that page, glad to know it's the right bit of info :)

thanks bro!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 24 July 2014, 15:16:35
Question, are there any markers for the polarity of the LEDs? Margon is building mine now and he thinks he needs to load the firmware first to figure it out. If I can I would like to try to save him some time.

I haven't installed LEDs on mine yet (next up), but I'm assuming it's the same as the Lightsaver:

PLEASE NOTE when installing LEDs, polarity is not indicated on the PCB, but it's the standard + on the right, - on the left, when looking at the PCB from the top (not from the bottom).  BUT, if you're doing a 1.5x modifier layout on the bottom row, note that the LEDs for the right-side Alt/GUI/Ctrl should be reversed in orientation to - / +.

Hope that helps

I did that + on the right - on the left, top down:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/20140723_164736919_iOS_zpsc1ae48f7.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/lymph/media/20140723_164736919_iOS_zpsc1ae48f7.jpg.html)

and this happened:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/20140723_195532895_iOS_zps1158b5a1.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/lymph/media/20140723_195532895_iOS_zps1158b5a1.jpg.html)

So I had to swap them all round to get:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/20140724_184246137_iOS_zps50012724.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/lymph/media/20140724_184246137_iOS_zps50012724.jpg.html)

(somehow managed to catch the esc flash in the picture  :thumb: )

so on this, predominantly - was on the right and + was on the left, looking top down at the keyboard. Unless my LED are crazy! :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Thu, 24 July 2014, 15:57:27
Question, are there any markers for the polarity of the LEDs? Margon is building mine now and he thinks he needs to load the firmware first to figure it out. If I can I would like to try to save him some time.

I haven't installed LEDs on mine yet (next up), but I'm assuming it's the same as the Lightsaver:

Show Image
Show Image
PLEASE NOTE when installing LEDs, polarity is not indicated on the PCB, but it's the standard + on the right, - on the left, when looking at the PCB from the top (not from the bottom).  BUT, if you're doing a 1.5x modifier layout on the bottom row, note that the LEDs for the right-side Alt/GUI/Ctrl should be reversed in orientation to - / +.

Hope that helps

I did that + on the right - on the left, top down:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/20140723_164736919_iOS_zpsc1ae48f7.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/lymph/media/20140723_164736919_iOS_zpsc1ae48f7.jpg.html)

and this happened:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/20140723_195532895_iOS_zps1158b5a1.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/lymph/media/20140723_195532895_iOS_zps1158b5a1.jpg.html)

So I had to swap them all round to get:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/20140724_184246137_iOS_zps50012724.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/lymph/media/20140724_184246137_iOS_zps50012724.jpg.html)

(somehow managed to catch the esc flash in the picture  :thumb: )

so on this, predominantly - was on the right and + was on the left, looking top down at the keyboard. Unless my LED are crazy! :)

Doh. I'll be installing LEDs this weekend, will follow-up with whether they're backwards for me as well.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 15:58:06
Test one first before soldering up the rest  :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Thu, 24 July 2014, 23:48:20
Hmm anybody know what type of screws are usedto assemble the case? Looking to get a longer version of them
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Battou62 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 01:12:26
Can we get some clarification on how to use the key mapper again? I have figured out how to use toggle the light modes and zones, but I haven't figured how to use the key mapper to restore my caps lock to its normal function. Awesome board btw,  I am very proud to be an owner now :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 26 July 2014, 01:42:03
Orion looks beautiful. I have a lightsaver on the way to me. So excited to join the korean club.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 26 July 2014, 09:04:35
I finally started building my Orion (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61027.msg1413579#msg1413579) last week (as in started disassembling and lubing 88 switches) and of course I get four switches in before I realize I've messed up and now I'm waiting on the desoldering gun I'd originally ordered for my next project to arrive so I can clean the solder out of the blasted LED through holes.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 26 July 2014, 09:36:28
And I will be following you ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Battou62 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 19:20:00
Anyone figure out the key mapper? My escape only blinks once now, and I cant control the leds anymore :( I need an ELI5 tutorial :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 26 July 2014, 19:41:58
Anyone figure out the key mapper? My escape only blinks once now, and I cant control the leds anymore :( I need an ELI5 tutorial :)

What problems are you having? I've been helping folks with the software and having had any issues thus far. Feel free to PM me and we'll suss it out and post the solution to the thread.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Battou62 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 19:48:40
Anyone figure out the key mapper? My escape only blinks once now, and I cant control the leds anymore :( I need an ELI5 tutorial :)

What problems are you having? I've been helping folks with the software and having had any issues thus far. Feel free to PM me and we'll suss it out and post the solution to the thread.


Thank you, will do.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 27 July 2014, 09:37:32
Anyone figure out the key mapper? My escape only blinks once now, and I cant control the leds anymore :( I need an ELI5 tutorial :)

What problems are you having? I've been helping folks with the software and having had any issues thus far. Feel free to PM me and we'll suss it out and post the solution to the thread.


Thank you, will do.

Battou62's issue just came down to the difficulty in following instructions where all you have is the screenshot rather than the actual language. I don't have my Orion assembled but I've been using the firmware program for my KingSaver and Duck Mini and feel pretty good at doing so. When I get to the firmware section of my build (before Thursday, I hope) I'll post an English language guide to the firmware and a short youtube video of me programming my Orion.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 28 July 2014, 10:25:38
Found a place that can lasercut the bottom plate. Just € 34,30 for 9 plates so around €4 or $5.1

If they turn out right I will probably be selling some on here after shooting some pics.
They don't have a machine currently for the 12mm acrylic we need for the inserts but they will have a new machine soon. *Fingers crossed*
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 28 July 2014, 10:36:06
Found a place that can lasercut the bottom plate. Just 34,30 for 9 plates so around 4 or $5.1

If they turn out right I will probably be selling some on here after shooting some pics.
They don't have a machine currently for the 12mm acrylic we need for the inserts but they will have a new machine soon. *Fingers crossed*

I had 2x 2mm acrylic plates made to test.

The single 2mm is pretty thin, can barely see the acrylic between the 2 pieces of the case.

4mm looks a lot better but ends up being too long for the screws provided by the case, does anybody know what type of screws the case uses (or how I can identify them) and/or where we can get longer screws?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 28 July 2014, 10:42:58
Found a place that can lasercut the bottom plate. Just 34,30 for 9 plates so around 4 or $5.1

If they turn out right I will probably be selling some on here after shooting some pics.
They don't have a machine currently for the 12mm acrylic we need for the inserts but they will have a new machine soon. *Fingers crossed*

I had 2x 2mm acrylic plates made to test.

The single 2mm is pretty thin, can barely see the acrylic between the 2 pieces of the case.

4mm looks a lot better but ends up being too long for the screws provided by the case, does anybody know what type of screws the case uses (or how I can identify them) and/or where we can get longer screws?
Did you make some shots?
Even if it's too thin to be visible it should still give a bit of glow around the case or at the very least offer a flatter option with aluminum case feet (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/19-aluminium-legs.html) for those who prefer that.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 28 July 2014, 11:03:50
Found a place that can lasercut the bottom plate. Just 34,30 for 9 plates so around 4 or $5.1

If they turn out right I will probably be selling some on here after shooting some pics.
They don't have a machine currently for the 12mm acrylic we need for the inserts but they will have a new machine soon. *Fingers crossed*

I had 2x 2mm acrylic plates made to test.

The single 2mm is pretty thin, can barely see the acrylic between the 2 pieces of the case.

4mm looks a lot better but ends up being too long for the screws provided by the case, does anybody know what type of screws the case uses (or how I can identify them) and/or where we can get longer screws?
Did you make some shots?
Even if it's too thin to be visible it should still give a bit of glow around the case or at the very least offer a flatter option with aluminum case feet (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/19-aluminium-legs.html) for those who prefer that.

I can take some photos later this evening. Based on photos in the OP, I'm guessing Duck used 4mm plate
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 28 July 2014, 16:10:43
Found a place that can lasercut the bottom plate. Just 34,30 for 9 plates so around 4 or $5.1

If they turn out right I will probably be selling some on here after shooting some pics.
They don't have a machine currently for the 12mm acrylic we need for the inserts but they will have a new machine soon. *Fingers crossed*

I had 2x 2mm acrylic plates made to test.

The single 2mm is pretty thin, can barely see the acrylic between the 2 pieces of the case.

4mm looks a lot better but ends up being too long for the screws provided by the case, does anybody know what type of screws the case uses (or how I can identify them) and/or where we can get longer screws?
Did you make some shots?
Even if it's too thin to be visible it should still give a bit of glow around the case or at the very least offer a flatter option with aluminum case feet (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/19-aluminium-legs.html) for those who prefer that.

I can take some photos later this evening. Based on photos in the OP, I'm guessing Duck used 4mm plate
Please do, I can still change my order to a 4mm then.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 28 July 2014, 19:46:17
Found a place that can lasercut the bottom plate. Just 34,30 for 9 plates so around 4 or $5.1

If they turn out right I will probably be selling some on here after shooting some pics.
They don't have a machine currently for the 12mm acrylic we need for the inserts but they will have a new machine soon. *Fingers crossed*

I had 2x 2mm acrylic plates made to test.

The single 2mm is pretty thin, can barely see the acrylic between the 2 pieces of the case.

4mm looks a lot better but ends up being too long for the screws provided by the case, does anybody know what type of screws the case uses (or how I can identify them) and/or where we can get longer screws?
Did you make some shots?
Even if it's too thin to be visible it should still give a bit of glow around the case or at the very least offer a flatter option with aluminum case feet (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/19-aluminium-legs.html) for those who prefer that.

I can take some photos later this evening. Based on photos in the OP, I'm guessing Duck used 4mm plate
Please do, I can still change my order to a 4mm then.

That seems way too thick to me, but everyone is entitled to their own look I guess
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JizzGus on Mon, 28 July 2014, 22:28:45
Finally getting around to building my board, but does anyone know what the cut-out in the center of the bottom piece is for?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 28 July 2014, 23:06:34
Finally getting around to building my board, but does anyone know what the cut-out in the center of the bottom piece is for?

For brass weight. I've seen a picture somewhere.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 07:52:51
Seems like I might even be able to pick up the lasercut plates today or tomorrow. That's even before I receive the board from Margo.  ;D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:32:33
Just went to pick them up.
Behold, bottom plates!

(http://i.imgur.com/aJw5j1Ch.jpg)
9 plates in total.

(http://i.imgur.com/BbTCnxzh.jpg)
With some feet

(http://i.imgur.com/ZMwpoYnh.jpg)
Roughly a 5 degree angle

Now I need to be patient for my orion to arrive. :P

The place where I got them told me they'd have a machine that could cut the 12mm pieces in one month.
So unless somebody else wants to pick that up in a GB I could try by then.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Tue, 29 July 2014, 11:51:18
Interested
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 12:05:29
Interested
I will be trying it myself first before I sell to others to see if they actually fit. But so far it looks like it will work.
The final view with just the plate should be something like this (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=24717&mid=board_Lsno50).
Feel free to express interest.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 30 July 2014, 01:35:20
[...] does anybody know what type of screws the case uses (or how I can identify them) and/or where we can get longer screws?

If they are the same as  the Lightsaver (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0);
Quote
Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length. If your set is missing screws, please see this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.msg1268209#msg1268209) post by dorkvader-he ordered a large batch for himself that seem to fit well.

EDIT: d'oh! Of course not. those are just the ones for the plate.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Wed, 30 July 2014, 02:11:13
Very interested to see how the cutouts fit. Interested in joining a buy as well (: thanks for keeping us updated
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: chocobunny on Wed, 30 July 2014, 12:00:59
I'd be interested in a plate.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:51:56
My Orion with 70g MX Clears is in use today at work.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:56:36
My Orion with 70g MX Clears is in use today at work.
Pics! :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 30 July 2014, 14:04:40
My Orion with 70g MX Clears is in use today at work.
Pics! :D

No good one since my camera didn't come with me to work today.

(http://i.imgur.com/heUzKQc.jpg)

I'll be writing up the build log on the train home.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 30 July 2014, 15:03:16
My Orion with 70g MX Clears is in use today at work.
Pics! :D

No good one since my camera didn't come with me to work today.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/heUzKQc.jpg)


I'll be writing up the build log on the train home.
Nice spericals. Cool looking board. Did anyone comment on it yet?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 15:07:57
My Orion with 70g MX Clears is in use today at work.
Pics! :D

No good one since my camera didn't come with me to work today.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/heUzKQc.jpg)


I'll be writing up the build log on the train home.

I consider this to be a "good one".  :D  Looking great, NS!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 30 July 2014, 17:23:31
My Orion with 70g MX Clears is in use today at work.
Pics! :D

No good one since my camera didn't come with me to work today.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/heUzKQc.jpg)


I'll be writing up the build log on the train home.

Turned out great, what color LEDs are those?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 05 August 2014, 09:36:15
Vintage MX Clears, lubed and stickered, transparent switch tops and screw on pcb mounted stabilizers.
Keycaps are a combination of SkiData and Originative Charred Orange.
Cable by Pexon

(http://i.imgur.com/j35GTqzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/j35GTqz)
(http://i.imgur.com/2Fr2agMh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/2Fr2agM)
(http://i.imgur.com/TwU17pjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/TwU17pj)
(http://i.imgur.com/I87ztpTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/I87ztpT)
(http://i.imgur.com/1pewTHih.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1pewTHi)
(http://i.imgur.com/jcikRwHh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/jcikRwH)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZnatxgNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZnatxgN)

All clickable for original resolution. ;)

This board is really solid and a lot quieter than my other boards with Clears. Not even a ping.
The Acrylic plate doesn't seem to be doing much. Perhaps tonight I will see more.

EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/m0u0eYk.jpg) (http://imgur.com/m0u0eYk)
(http://i.imgur.com/1axzVIs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1axzVIs)
(http://i.imgur.com/RgmRUbv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RgmRUbv)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 05 August 2014, 09:49:50
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Vintage MX Clears, lubed and stickered, transparent switch tops and screw on pcb mounted stabilizers.
Keycaps are a combination of SkiData and Originative Charred Orange.
Cable by Pexon

(http://i.imgur.com/j35GTqzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/j35GTqz)

(http://i.imgur.com/2Fr2agMh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/2Fr2agM)

(http://i.imgur.com/TwU17pjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/TwU17pj)

(http://i.imgur.com/I87ztpTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/I87ztpT)

(http://i.imgur.com/1pewTHih.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1pewTHi)

(http://i.imgur.com/jcikRwHh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/jcikRwH)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZnatxgNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZnatxgN)


All clickable for original resolution. ;)

This board is really solid and a lot quieter than my other boards with Clears. Not even a ping.
The Acrylic plate doesn't seem to be doing much. Perhaps tonight I will see more.

EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/m0u0eYk.jpg) (http://imgur.com/m0u0eYk)

(http://i.imgur.com/1axzVIs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1axzVIs)

(http://i.imgur.com/RgmRUbv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RgmRUbv)
God damn that is a good looking board. Great pick up!

I'll be using that exact switch, led and case set up on my Viper :D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 05 August 2014, 15:31:50
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Vintage MX Clears, lubed and stickered, transparent switch tops and screw on pcb mounted stabilizers.
Keycaps are a combination of SkiData and Originative Charred Orange.
Cable by Pexon

(http://i.imgur.com/j35GTqzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/j35GTqz)

(http://i.imgur.com/2Fr2agMh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/2Fr2agM)

(http://i.imgur.com/TwU17pjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/TwU17pj)

(http://i.imgur.com/I87ztpTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/I87ztpT)

(http://i.imgur.com/1pewTHih.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1pewTHi)

(http://i.imgur.com/jcikRwHh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/jcikRwH)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZnatxgNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZnatxgN)


All clickable for original resolution. ;)

This board is really solid and a lot quieter than my other boards with Clears. Not even a ping.
The Acrylic plate doesn't seem to be doing much. Perhaps tonight I will see more.

EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/m0u0eYk.jpg) (http://imgur.com/m0u0eYk)

(http://i.imgur.com/1axzVIs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1axzVIs)

(http://i.imgur.com/RgmRUbv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RgmRUbv)
God damn that is a good looking board. Great pick up!

I'll be using that exact switch, led and case set up on my Viper :D
Nice, I'm sure it will look really nice on a 60% board as well. I will probably be hauling it to Amsterdam on friday btw.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 05 August 2014, 16:56:07
Slight update on the plate:

It works, but you will need different screws. Or tap into the plastic in the front.
(http://i.imgur.com/QAL3B1o.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QAL3B1o)
(http://i.imgur.com/QSvjeq7.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QSvjeq7)

And though it does really add to the dispersion of light on the sides
(http://i.imgur.com/KM1yLrU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/KM1yLrU)

It does very little, if anything at all about a nice glow at the front
(http://i.imgur.com/P7E4ex7.jpg) (http://imgur.com/P7E4ex7)

It does look mighty sexy though.
(http://i.imgur.com/UDpmhpX.jpg) (http://imgur.com/UDpmhpX)

I suspect Duck might have used extra LEDs to get this effect
(http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/image/231F934952DA5F991DC025)

Or perhaps the difference really is in a 4mm plate or the silver case.

TO BE CONTINUED
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 05 August 2014, 19:05:15
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Slight update on the plate:

It works, but you will need different screws. Or tap into the plastic in the front.
(http://i.imgur.com/QAL3B1o.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QAL3B1o)

(http://i.imgur.com/QSvjeq7.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QSvjeq7)


And though it does really add to the dispersion of light on the sides
(http://i.imgur.com/KM1yLrU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/KM1yLrU)


It does very little, if anything at all about a nice glow at the front
(http://i.imgur.com/P7E4ex7.jpg) (http://imgur.com/P7E4ex7)


It does look mighty sexy though.
(http://i.imgur.com/UDpmhpX.jpg) (http://imgur.com/UDpmhpX)

I suspect Duck might have used extra LEDs to get this effect
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Or perhaps the difference really is in a 4mm plate or the silver case.

TO BE CONTINUED

I would guess extra LEDs would be right.  Another difference might be a frosted acrylic vs clear?  Like seen here:  http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=502

Though if there are pics of the plate then I would certainly be wrong (I haven't followed this gb at all, sorry!).
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 06 August 2014, 04:35:18
Maybe, I'll try some different options later. See how that works out.

In the meantime, does anyone know how to change the blinking Esc-key?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 05:55:49
Have you tried it with the acrylic piece in between the 2 metal pieces? I think that was what Duck did with it.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 06 August 2014, 06:06:05
I did. It's too thin to make a difference. Remember, the only LEDs underneath are the four at the holes on the side. We will probably have better luck with double thickness but I won't be able to try that until later this week. I need to finish my thesis before tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 06 August 2014, 15:54:01
I did. It's too thin to make a difference. Remember, the only LEDs underneath are the four at the holes on the side. We will probably have better luck with double thickness but I won't be able to try that until later this week. I need to finish my thesis before tomorrow evening.

Yeah, I mentioned earlier but never got around to posting pictures, a single 2mm plate between the 2 aluminum case pieces is too thin. I tested with 2x 2mm (4mm) plates and it definitely looks a lot better, but the screws aren't long enough (so I've been tracking down longer case screws)

Probably next, I'll try sanding the edges of the plate to get a frosted look, hoping that will diffuse some of the LED light better.

Also, might try adding a couple red LEDs underneath the PCB to see if that gives it more underglow. I don't know **** about resistors and what not, but I noticed there's a couple free spots with resistors that I might be able to use (one from not using 6.25x spacebar and another from the extra modifier due to winkeyless)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Fri, 22 August 2014, 04:57:18
I sent the plate and pcb to Gon for assembly and finally I received the assembled keyboard today. Today is first time I play duck keyboard. Does anyone know how to toggle LED mode? Any good user manual online for Orion TKL?

Regards,
dragonken
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sat, 23 August 2014, 01:57:42
Finally I figured out how to toggle LED mode.

Orion TKL 62g clear switch. Assembled by Gon:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 01 September 2014, 03:02:36
Does anyone know how to program commands like volume up, Play/Pause and the like?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Mon, 01 September 2014, 03:33:45
Does anyone know how to program commands like volume up, Play/Pause and the like?
same question here, those multimedia commands were stated as for MAC only in the keymapper, any idea how to make it works in windows?
BTW, I am really interested in your acrylic plate work there JaccoW, have you figured out how to make that glow like Duck' orion? I think the frosted acrylic with 4mm would work, but it's just a guess.  :p
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 01 September 2014, 04:00:02
Does anyone know how to program commands like volume up, Play/Pause and the like?
same question here, those multimedia commands were stated as for MAC only in the keymapper, any idea how to make it works in windows?
BTW, I am really interested in your acrylic plate work there JaccoW, have you figured out how to make that glow like Duck' orion? I think the frosted acrylic with 4mm would work, but it's just a guess.  :p
Exactly. But perhaps there are certain macros built into Windows that do the same?

I will get back to the plate in a few weeks. Just came back from my vacation and I need to finish up a thesis first. But I won't forget about it. ;)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:28:37
(http://i.imgur.com/4nG4zVN.jpg) (http://imgur.com/4nG4zVN)
(http://i.imgur.com/zGmlpz1.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zGmlpz1)
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Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:43:02
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JF3Z_Wox5JC7_Fcla1fHPLuZURSXM9OdYFvwBs78DLo/viewform

Fill up form if interested in the side inserts

These are the inserts we're talking about
http://duck0113.tistory.com/88 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/88)

Shipping costs:
If you think shipping by padded envelope is safe enough and if it fits the req., then it will be like $3.5 to US and $6-7 to international.  This will include the cost of padded envelope.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 02 November 2014, 16:55:13
Did anybody ever figure out what size screws are being used?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 02 November 2014, 17:14:39
Did anybody ever figure out what size screws are being used?

I don't know how to identify fasteners. I'd also really like to know so I can add that info to my build log.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:06:00
Crosspost from the Lightsaver V2 Group Buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1551072#msg1551072) thread.
I finally received the inserts and frosted them. :D

End results
(http://i.imgur.com/J6dF04qh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/J6dF04q)

No inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/8AJXKTCh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8AJXKTC)

Clear inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/O0Rf9Mgh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O0Rf9Mg)

Frosted inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/lc63T8mh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lc63T8m)
There we go! As you can see it really helps in the diffusion of light
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tullyvivi on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:55:26
Is the group buy still going on? any1 nos ?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:13:27
Is the group buy still going on? any1 nos ?
nope. been done for a while, but I think you can still proxy one from here: http://kbd4u.co.kr/index.html If they are still in stock.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tullyvivi on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:32:33
Is the group buy still going on? any1 nos ?
nope. been done for a while, but I think you can still proxy one from here: http://kbd4u.co.kr/index.html If they are still in stock.

U sir are awesome. Much appreciated. So em, is there any trick doing these kind of proxy?

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: feizor on Sat, 06 December 2014, 00:07:33
Is the group buy still going on? any1 nos ?
nope. been done for a while, but I think you can still proxy one from here: http://kbd4u.co.kr/index.html If they are still in stock.

U sir are awesome. Much appreciated. So em, is there any trick doing these kind of proxy?



Is that duck's own online shop site? Do you need to find a separate proxy?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: geogga on Sat, 06 December 2014, 15:02:02
Is the group buy still going on? any1 nos ?
nope. been done for a while, but I think you can still proxy one from here: http://kbd4u.co.kr/index.html If they are still in stock.

U sir are awesome. Much appreciated. So em, is there any trick doing these kind of proxy?



Is that duck's own online shop site? Do you need to find a separate proxy?

woahh I never knew about that site..I remember seeing another one but it had Kmacs (sold out ofc) and a few other keyboards.
looking more at this website it seems that the Orion and the kingsaver is available. But this is all in korean I need a korean fella. I think i have an idea..
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tullyvivi on Sun, 07 December 2014, 16:25:06
Is the group buy still going on? any1 nos ?
nope. been done for a while, but I think you can still proxy one from here: http://kbd4u.co.kr/index.html If they are still in stock.

U sir are awesome. Much appreciated. So em, is there any trick doing these kind of proxy?



Is that duck's own online shop site? Do you need to find a separate proxy?

woahh I never knew about that site..I remember seeing another one but it had Kmacs (sold out ofc) and a few other keyboards.
looking more at this website it seems that the Orion and the kingsaver is available. But this is all in korean I need a korean fella. I think i have an idea..

orion is out of stock on the website, been excited for a bit lol.. oh well.

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: henz on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:58:38
anyone interested in selling their case ?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Sat, 07 February 2015, 23:53:44
Did anybody have issues getting their LEDs working? I just got around to soldering a few on, but they aren't lighting up :(

I was able to toggle the side-LEDs on/off by hitting MFN x 3 + F5... but the same doesn't seem to have an effect for any of the ones I added myself to the alphas.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:06:55
I sanded my Viper inserts with 320 grit and I'm happy with the results, good tip.

Edit: oh gross, messy desk.

Edit 2: cropped my grossness out.

(http://i.imgur.com/0TRfdrF.jpg)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:18:44
I sanded my Viper inserts with 320 grit and I'm happy with the results, good tip.

Edit: oh gross, messy desk.
Edit 2: cropped my grossness out.
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Glad to be of service. Looks great!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:08:06
orion is out of stock on the website, been excited for a bit lol.. oh well.
http://duck0113.tistory.com/114
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:09:53
orion is out of stock on the website, been excited for a bit lol.. oh well.
http://duck0113.tistory.com/114
Umm... ia that a clear bottom?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:16:18

orion is out of stock on the website, been excited for a bit lol.. oh well.
http://duck0113.tistory.com/114
Umm... ia that a clear bottom?

I can't make out any details about the bottom. Can you tell it's clear from the shadow?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:19:55

orion is out of stock on the website, been excited for a bit lol.. oh well.
http://duck0113.tistory.com/114
Umm... ia that a clear bottom?

I can't make out any details about the bottom. Can you tell it's clear from the shadow?
It looks more reflective inside the frame than out but I could be totally off on this and it could just be a picture of the case top without a bottom (but the rumors floating around claim it'll be acrylic or PC bottom)
 :-X

Edit: on second thought it looks like my eyes betrayed me... I was mistaken LOL... it looks like its just a picture of the top case... doh!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:28:27
(http://i.imgur.com/b1TlWJI.jpg)

I think I can see where you're coming from.

Dude, I've been freaking out about this post since this morning, I am all for speculation lol. I also hope for a re-release of the Unicorn all acrylic housing. DUCK!!! Show us more pictures already!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:33:04
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I think I can see where you're coming from.

Dude, I've been freaking out about this post since this morning, I am all for speculation lol. I also hope for a re-release of the Unicorn all acrylic housing. DUCK!!! Show us more pictures already!
Oh ****... I just noticed another giveaway... the grain of the wood is not as defined inside the frame (maybe)!

Also, right under the C in your picture is a streak that looks like refracted/reflected light from what presumably is the clear bottom 0.o

But yeah.... I need to see moar... nao!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:37:24
don't tease me
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:38:07

Also, right under the C in your picture is a streak that looks like refracted/reflected light from what presumably is the clear bottom 0.o


Dude, yeah that was the shadow thing I thought you were talking about. Kinda weird.


Well if anything's been revealed it's the thickness of the top casing. You can see that from the bridge between left arrow and right ctrl that the casing doesn't go too deep. Which is something we only see with layered cases sooooo.....

Edit: Realized I'm being stupid, that bridge is always thin no matter what....back to square 1 lol.









and HL3.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:39:21
don't tease me
Oh God... if this comes in a frosted version my pants are going to 'splode


Also, right under the C in your picture is a streak that looks like refracted/reflected light from what presumably is the clear bottom 0.o

Layers confirmed.








and HL3.
tasty
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:14:50
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I think I can see where you're coming from.

Dude, I've been freaking out about this post since this morning, I am all for speculation lol. I also hope for a re-release of the Unicorn all acrylic housing. DUCK!!! Show us more pictures already!
Oh ****... I just noticed another giveaway... the grain of the wood is not as defined inside the frame (maybe)!

Also, right under the C in your picture is a streak that looks like refracted/reflected light from what presumably is the clear bottom 0.o

But yeah.... I need to see moar... nao!
It could be a clear Acrylic bottom case. But it could also be the limited depth of field. Notice how the legends on the keycaps aren't in focus either. My guess is he just propped it up on a book or something to get that floating effect

The pcb is connected to the top case through the plate. No need to put a giant wedge underneath. ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZnatxgNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZnatxgN)
(http://i.imgur.com/QSvjeq7h.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QSvjeq7)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: mrdar206 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:20:06
Orion V2 model is uploaded  :)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:39:06
Orion V2 model is uploaded  :)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside
Not sure how I feel about the on-face LEDs but that new base looks really nice. I would love the chance to order just the bottom if they are compatible.
(http://i.imgur.com/4BggOZj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/q9sccxr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/eW8twGn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ck70p6K.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GwO6a6u.jpg)

Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:59:51
Orion V2 model is uploaded  :)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside
Not sure how I feel about the on-face LEDs but that new base looks really nice. I would love the chance to order just the bottom if they are compatible.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4BggOZj.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/q9sccxr.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/eW8twGn.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/ck70p6K.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/GwO6a6u.jpg)

Just did a google translate, those on-face LEDs seems to indicate which layout is used. IMO it's better than the blinking in-switch LED on the Esc key .
Both the aluminum and acrylic bottoms look wonderful, hopefully duck will include those acrylic inserts this time in the GB. I wonder if duck would let us get 2 kinds of bottom for just 1 kit?
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 24 February 2015, 08:49:18
Make it happen, please!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: bueller on Tue, 24 February 2015, 09:29:37
Yeah I think I could scrape the cash together for a V2, always wanted a custom TKL!
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 24 February 2015, 09:55:18
Orion V2 model is uploaded  :)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside

That's lovely!!   :eek:   I really hope there is a Group Buy on geekhack for this, I would love to get one.  :)
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:36:22
Oh no, it is almost everything I want. 84 key, available in dark grey, I can tolerate those acryl pieces between top and bottom case, but unfortunately they added weird indicators to the top case :( Not a fan of those gimmicks. Here is to hope that there is a version without those or else I have to wait for the next TKL group buy.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Rodgaroon on Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:58:18
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Vintage MX Clears, lubed and stickered, transparent switch tops and screw on pcb mounted stabilizers.
Keycaps are a combination of SkiData and Originative Charred Orange.
Cable by Pexon

(http://i.imgur.com/j35GTqzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/j35GTqz)

(http://i.imgur.com/2Fr2agMh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/2Fr2agM)

(http://i.imgur.com/TwU17pjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/TwU17pj)

(http://i.imgur.com/I87ztpTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/I87ztpT)

(http://i.imgur.com/1pewTHih.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1pewTHi)

(http://i.imgur.com/jcikRwHh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/jcikRwH)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZnatxgNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZnatxgN)


All clickable for original resolution. ;)

This board is really solid and a lot quieter than my other boards with Clears. Not even a ping.
The Acrylic plate doesn't seem to be doing much. Perhaps tonight I will see more.

EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/m0u0eYk.jpg) (http://imgur.com/m0u0eYk)

(http://i.imgur.com/1axzVIs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1axzVIs)

(http://i.imgur.com/RgmRUbv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RgmRUbv)

This isn't the place to post your home made porn. But we all thank you.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:02:24
I might be the minority here, but please bring back v1 :<
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Heliosphere on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:16:17
I like that the V2 is slimmer than the original. Not much a fan of the top LEDs.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 25 February 2015, 06:11:04
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Vintage MX Clears, lubed and stickered, transparent switch tops and screw on pcb mounted stabilizers.
Keycaps are a combination of SkiData and Originative Charred Orange.
Cable by Pexon

(http://i.imgur.com/j35GTqzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/j35GTqz)

(http://i.imgur.com/2Fr2agMh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/2Fr2agM)

(http://i.imgur.com/TwU17pjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/TwU17pj)

(http://i.imgur.com/I87ztpTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/I87ztpT)

(http://i.imgur.com/1pewTHih.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1pewTHi)

(http://i.imgur.com/jcikRwHh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/jcikRwH)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZnatxgNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZnatxgN)


All clickable for original resolution. ;)

This board is really solid and a lot quieter than my other boards with Clears. Not even a ping.
The Acrylic plate doesn't seem to be doing much. Perhaps tonight I will see more.

EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/m0u0eYk.jpg) (http://imgur.com/m0u0eYk)

(http://i.imgur.com/1axzVIs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1axzVIs)

(http://i.imgur.com/RgmRUbv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RgmRUbv)
This isn't the place to post your home made porn. But we all thank you.
Feel free to make some of your own. Amateur is the most popular style for a reason. :P
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 25 February 2015, 21:40:43
With so much Orion #hype I had to share mine:


Edit: awww, what's wrong with the YouTube embedding? 
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Data on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:31:07
It might work if you convert your URL to regular HTTP protocol.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:49:28
I did. Tried all sorts of combinations. It works on Tapatalk but not in my browser
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:15:57
I did. Tried all sorts of combinations. It works on Tapatalk but not in my browser

It's a known bug, ever since converting the site to https.  :(  I'm not sure when it will be fixed, but I do hope it's soon.

If you click the shield in the upper right corner (Chrome) and 'load unsafe scripts', it will show the embedded YouTube video.  It will then hide again on the next page you view, however.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:55:36
I have this trouble. Then my chrome can't run. So I have to uninstall it & re-install. It run well after. I am not sure but you can try.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:02:55
Anyone want to take a stab at making TMK firmware (https://github.com/xauser/tmk_keyboard/tree/octagon) for the Orion?

Quote
Features:

Multi-layer Keymap - Multiple keyboard layouts with layer switching
Mouse key - Mouse control with keyboard
System Control Key - Power Down, Sleep, Wake Up and USB Remote Wake up
Media Control Key - Volume Down/Up, Mute, Next/Prev track, Play, Stop and etc
USB NKRO - 120 keys(+ 8 modifiers) simultaneously
PS/2 mouse support - PS/2 mouse(TrackPoint) as composite device
Keyboard protocols - PS/2, ADB, M0110, Sun and other old keyboard protocols
User Function - Customizable function of key with writing code
Macro - Very primitive at this time
Keyboard Tricks - Oneshot modifier and modifier with tapping feature
Debug Console - Messages for debug and interaction with firmware
Virtual DIP Switch - Configurations stored EEPROM(Boot Magic)
Locking CapsLock - Mechanical switch support for CapsLock
Breathing Sleep LED - Sleep indicator with charm during USB suspend
Backlight - Control backlight levels
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:14:54
Anyone want to take a stab at making TMK firmware (https://github.com/xauser/tmk_keyboard/tree/octagon) for the Orion?

Quote
Features:

Multi-layer Keymap - Multiple keyboard layouts with layer switching
Mouse key - Mouse control with keyboard
System Control Key - Power Down, Sleep, Wake Up and USB Remote Wake up
Media Control Key - Volume Down/Up, Mute, Next/Prev track, Play, Stop and etc
USB NKRO - 120 keys(+ 8 modifiers) simultaneously
PS/2 mouse support - PS/2 mouse(TrackPoint) as composite device
Keyboard protocols - PS/2, ADB, M0110, Sun and other old keyboard protocols
User Function - Customizable function of key with writing code
Macro - Very primitive at this time
Keyboard Tricks - Oneshot modifier and modifier with tapping feature
Debug Console - Messages for debug and interaction with firmware
Virtual DIP Switch - Configurations stored EEPROM(Boot Magic)
Locking CapsLock - Mechanical switch support for CapsLock
Breathing Sleep LED - Sleep indicator with charm during USB suspend
Backlight - Control backlight levels

It's almost identical to the KMAC, except for the backlighting.  I know because I wrote support for both into mine.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: archer on Mon, 16 March 2015, 02:00:49
Orion V2 model is uploaded  :)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside

That's lovely!!   :eek:   I really hope there is a Group Buy on geekhack for this, I would love to get one.  :)
100% agree! :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: MrChunky on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:42:59
New pics with transparent bottom part, looking sick!

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http://duck0113.tistory.com/119
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Data on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:46:50
New pics with transparent bottom part, looking sick!

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http://duck0113.tistory.com/119

Mind kind of blown right now.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: LXXXIX on Sun, 29 March 2015, 17:22:28
Orion V2 model is uploaded  :)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside

That's lovely!!   :eek:   I really hope there is a Group Buy on geekhack for this, I would love to get one.  :)
100% agree! :thumb:

Count me in too if this is still happening. :thumb:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 29 March 2015, 17:31:06
It sure is, but it is taking longer than anticipated to start.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: animated on Tue, 31 March 2015, 14:03:44
It sure is, but it is taking longer than anticipated to start.

Take your time!  I will check everyday until you start  ;D
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: Danboard on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:54:44
I'll have to get in on this one. I need a new keyboard for all those group buys.
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 12 December 2016, 16:24:45
There is an IC going on for an Orion V2 brass/stainless steel insert (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85723) and perhaps one for the original V1 as well.  :cool:
Title: Re: Orion TKL Group Buy
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 05 January 2017, 15:48:33
There is an IC going on for an Orion V2 brass/stainless steel insert (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85723) and perhaps one for the original V1 as well.  :cool:

I would like to confirm that due to the efforts of E3E and MrRooks, the weight insert fits both the V1 and V2. GB is live now!