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Title: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:38:38
Intro
This will be an IC for thick PBT dyesub sets, in classic (Light grey mods & beige alphas) base color. Profile will be Cherry.

Originative Co. will be handling the logistics (Taking orders, shipping, etc). I will be assisting in the design phase. Pre-orders will be done on his storefront. Until then, I will be the POC, and following the pre-orders, Originative.

We are targeting to make this available at USD 70-90.


On offer
There will be one kit only, which will consist of the following keys (Total 130 keys):
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/05/Classic.png)
- 104 Basic ANSI kit, homing keys will be scoops with bars
- 1 Mod colored R1 tilde
- 3 Windowed caps (Num Lock, Scroll Lock, Stepped Caps Lock)
- 7 Key WKL compatibility kit (2x 1.5U Control, 2x 1.5U Alt, 2x 1u Win key, 7u Spacebar)
- 5 key HHKB compatibility kit (Full Touch 1.75U R3 Control, 1u R1 \|, 1u R4 Fn, 1.75u R4 Shift, 1.5u Backspace)
- 4 key 65%/75% compatibility kit (R1 Del, R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn, R4 End)
- 2 key 1800 compatibility kit (1u R4 Num0, 1u R4 Num+)
- 4 key 1u bottom row mods (2x 1U Ctrl, 2x 1U Alt)
(There is no ISO kit, however a supplementary kit will be available to order in the future. The primary reason for this is the lack of tooling for an ISO enter key)


Languages and MOQ
Due to the nature of the MOQ, we will only be having a number of legend designs, however we can have a manageable number of colorways for the legends. We have shortlisted the following for layouts on offer:
- Classic
- Arabic
- Hangul
- Japanese
- Russian
(NOTE: At this stage the languages (Legend options) have been decided on, so please do not request other layouts, they might happen at a later date, but no this round. We can discuss these elsewhere.

I'll be working with the community to ensure the legends for the foreign characters are correct weight, size and aligned for the final set. What we are looking from you are the different legend color/color combinations you'd like to buy.

Poll
Please vote for the color options you are interested in buying:
http://goo.gl/forms/GtVNnK2OitLbM9Kv1
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:38:54
Variants

Simple
- Black
[attachimg=5]

- Dark Blue
[attachimg=3]

- Deep Red
[attachimg=8]

- Forest Green
[attachimg=4]

- Purple
[attachimg=7]

- Orange
[attachimg=6]




Arabic
- Black (E) and Dark Blue (A)
[attachimg=1]

- Black (E) and Green (A)
[attachimg=2]

- Black (E) and Gold (A)
[attachimg=16]




Hangul
- Black (E) and Red (H)
[attachimg=11]

- Black (E) and Blue (H)
[attachimg=10]

- Blue (E) and Red (H)
[attachimg=9]

- Cyan (E) and Pink (H)
[attachimg=18]

- Black (E) and Purple (H)
[attachimg=20]




Japanese
- Black (E) and Red (J)
[attachimg=19]

- Red-Pink (E) and Black (J)
[attachimg=15]

- Purple (E) and Cyan (J)
[attachimg=14]

- Blue (E) and Red (J)
[attachimg=21]

- Black (E) and Black (J)
[attachimg=22]




Russian
- Black(E) and Red(R)
[attachimg=13]

- Black(E) and Orange(R)
[attachimg=12]

- Cyan(E) and Pink(R)
[attachimg=17]
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:39:02
Work In Progress

Nothing right now.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:39:10
Updates

- Added tentative pricing (70-75), profile details (cherry) and homing key details (scoops with bars)
- Added R1 1u Del key
- Added Classic and Arabic final versions (Colors TBD)
- Added Hangul and Russian final versions (Colors TBD)
- Added Japanese final version (Colors TBD)
- Modified color of cyan to be closer to GMK TU2
- Modified color of gold in Arabic set for better legibility
- Scrapped Red-Black Japanese set as it was too close to Red\Pink-Black, instead added Purple-Cyan
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: punkpc on Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:16:08
These kits looks good, but are there any chances for a no OS specific key? Like a Diamond, Star, GH, or something like that?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:18:00
These kits looks good, but are there any chances for a no OS specific key? Like a Diamond, Star, GH, or something like that?

We had a similar discussion on another thread, most likely, we'll be sticking to the classic monotone win key for the Classic, Arabic and Cyrillic sets. Japanese will get a big dot and rose of sharon for the Hangul.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:28:34
Definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:57:04
If the Hangul fonts aren't a bunch of twigs like EnjoyPBT's current caps & the Japanese set doesn't look like the PBT4 one that would be great.

Very interested tho :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:00:52
They'll be different, we'll be using a more oriental version of the Hangul font. For Japanese well be using a slightly thicker version of a Gothic font, one that matches the Cherry legends in weight.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: joey on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:03:49
I don't need more sets.. especially after EnjoyPBT.. but I do love those windows keys.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: t8c on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:05:52
Great initative. So glad that originative have grabbed a hold of your design talents  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:07:02
I am interested, glad to see HHKB layout support!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: joey on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:07:53
I am interested, glad to see HHKB layout support!
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:10:23
wow this is great IC MOZ :cool:
so will this japanese set happen? :p

(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)

im in for this  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:10:30
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

I have an MX board  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:11:48
Black and blue Arabic would be perfect.

(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/400/473/006/78f48cfd629c74185511d6d81b0c116b.JPG)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: joey on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:12:16
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

I have an MX board  ^-^
But for how long :-X
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:16:26
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

I have an MX board  ^-^

And there's a few Topre mx sliders out there.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:18:21
wow this is great IC MOZ :cool:
so will this japanese set happen? :p

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


im in for this  :thumb:
Yes, that's the Japanese font we'll be using.

Great initative. So glad that originative have grabbed a hold of your design talents  :cool: :cool:
Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: hojunski on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:19:53
interested~
so will the hangul keycaps look something like the imsto hangul cherry keycaps?

(http://i.imgur.com/qocOehy.jpg)

I wish there was a black (E) cyan (H) colorway
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:23:17
Yeah, that's the default MS font for Hangul, Gungsuh, which we'll be using.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: hojunski on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:30:13
Yeah, that's the default MS font for Hangul, Gungsuh, which we'll be using.

sweet c: is there an estimate on pricing rn?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:50:41
They'll be different, we'll be using a more oriental version of the Hangul font. For Japanese well be using a slightly thicker version of a Gothic font, one that matches the Cherry legends in weight.

Perfect :)

Very excited for this.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 03 May 2016, 13:35:35
Oh nice, finally a source for hiragana caps. If the price is not GMK-level I'm definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Butter on Tue, 03 May 2016, 13:56:20
Any idea how much that's going to cost?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:03:42
I can't comment on exact pricing, I'll ask Sheraton to chip in with that information, but I can tell you it most likely will be sub-$100.

We deliberated about ISO, complete 1800 support, etc, but decided on the current offering to keep the price as reasonable as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Tue, 03 May 2016, 15:08:54
I can't comment on exact pricing, I'll ask Sheraton to chip in with that information, but I can tell you it most likely will be sub-$100.

We deliberated about ISO, complete 1800 support, etc, but decided on the current offering to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

A shame, would buy if there was a nordic/ISO kit.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Fiery on Tue, 03 May 2016, 15:43:54
I can't comment on exact pricing, I'll ask Sheraton to chip in with that information, but I can tell you it most likely will be sub-$100.

We deliberated about ISO, complete 1800 support, etc, but decided on the current offering to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

A shame, would buy if there was a nordic/ISO kit.

Same, I wish it was easier to get ISO PBT kits
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:00:56
As I mentioned in the OP, *not making any promises*, we will try to get a supplementary kit for ISO users that they can add to their main order. ISO enter is a bit of an issue.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:45:15
I will definitely order a set if arabic is an option. I would love black english alphas with blue arabic sublegends personally.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: csmertx on Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:52:41
Beautiful! I really like the win logo in this set, and I definitely appreciate the extra keys that will be available
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: rotciveel on Tue, 03 May 2016, 17:02:08
interested~
so will the hangul keycaps look something like the imsto hangul cherry keycaps?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qocOehy.jpg)


I wish there was a black (E) cyan (H) colorway

Yeah, that's the default MS font for Hangul, Gungsuh, which we'll be using.

Noiceee if the colors don't clash and the font is nice and thick like that, I'll be in for a set.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ika on Tue, 03 May 2016, 17:52:09
Love your mockups! This could be promising. Are you still working out the details, or do you know who will be doing the dyesubbing?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: laughatpain on Tue, 03 May 2016, 17:54:57
Would dark blue and deep red match Olivetti and Red Alert colors?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 03 May 2016, 18:28:17
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: y2bd on Tue, 03 May 2016, 18:47:08
Always interested in another source of these!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:44:36
Interested in Hangul :)
Who would be the manufacturer btw if you don't don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:54:17
Interested
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ika on Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:55:13
Interested in Hangul :)
Who would be the manufacturer btw if you don't don't mind me asking?


Quote
Keycaps will be manufactured by the same OEM as EnjoyPBT


aka gateron
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:57:41
Interested in Hangul :)
Who would be the manufacturer btw if you don't don't mind me asking?


Quote
Keycaps will be manufactured by the same OEM as EnjoyPBT


aka gateron
Ah okay. Must have missed that.
Thanks again!

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Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:02:20
1 set should run from $70-75


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Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:16:20
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:17:52
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:29:34
I will be in for a Hangul and probably a hiragana.

And while it probably wouldn't end up being popular enough, I would really, really like the Hangul set to be purple/cyan. Just throwing that out in case anyone thinks like I do.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:34:21
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:35:26
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

That & they don't make 1.25 ctrl + alt etc.

I don't use em but a lot of people do compared to wkl.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: domoe on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:42:09
Arabic!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:53:30
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:57:59
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.
In stock? Cause I've been searching for a sets
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:59:46
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.
In stock? Cause I've been searching for a sets

Yeah, but I'm not in the US right now. It's a little hard to ship. I'll update more soon.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 03 May 2016, 21:02:17
@sherryton can't wait
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 03 May 2016, 21:25:20
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.

yes sir, i also know that tenkeyless BSP sets in your store, since i have kept a close eye on them for a long time about 2 years, however, i need  all set including number keys.
That is the reason that i provide suggestion using BSP PBT if BSP have the keys and using enjoy PBT instead if BSP has not in this IC because i rather prefer to this dual color sublimation.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Radlife on Tue, 03 May 2016, 21:45:45
Definitely interested is the Japanese set,  glad to see that you're using the Gothic style one Moz!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: fublamchu on Tue, 03 May 2016, 21:55:47
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what profile will these caps be in? Definitely interested for a Hangul set!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 03 May 2016, 22:00:54
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what profile will these caps be in? Definitely interested for a Hangul set!
Cherry profile
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 03 May 2016, 22:05:04
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what profile will these caps be in? Definitely interested for a Hangul set!

cherry profile or cherry-like profile
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 03 May 2016, 22:52:12
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what profile will these caps be in? Definitely interested for a Hangul set!

cherry profile or cherry-like profile
Cherry profile......
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 03 May 2016, 23:06:00
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what profile will these caps be in? Definitely interested for a Hangul set!

cherry profile or cherry-like profile

Very close, but not an exact match: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71690.0
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: csmertx on Tue, 03 May 2016, 23:14:07
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what profile will these caps be in? Definitely interested for a Hangul set!

cherry profile or cherry-like profile

Very close, but not an exact match: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71690.0

Thank you for that! It's a shame the Gateron keycaps are white in the profile shots, kind of throws off the comparison a bit imo
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 04 May 2016, 00:48:53
Black and blue Arabic would be perfect.

Show Image
(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/400/473/006/78f48cfd629c74185511d6d81b0c116b.JPG)


+1 for this :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 04 May 2016, 04:52:41
I liked your hungarian schematic in the other topic:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/HU.png)
With the Tab/Shift/Caps/Ctrl/Win keys from the topic opener design it would be perfect.

What is the MOQ for ordering such layout?
I'd like to order 2-3 sets.

Second idea:
Mod keys addon with Mac symbols?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 05:01:55
Please have a look at the OP, we might not be doing ISO at all. MOQ is quite high for different legends, color don't matter.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 04 May 2016, 05:05:51
Would it be possible to do this as a single pack? just these 3 keys? if there is interest of course:

(http://i.imgur.com/SVgCNZL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IBBW5NJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 05:09:51
Woah, that's colorful! I doubt we'll be able to accommodate this for this round, but who knows! Up to Sheraton to find out.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 04 May 2016, 05:29:33
Yeah that's why I wanted to ask, even just a single kit with those 3 keycaps would be awesome :D If not in this round definitely keep it in mind :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 05:57:57
Yeah that's why I wanted to ask, even just a single kit with those 3 keycaps would be awesome :D If not in this round definitely keep it in mind :)

imsto might a good option, he's done similar, single keycap group buys in the past for very small MOQ's.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 04 May 2016, 06:14:05
Yeah that's why I wanted to ask, even just a single kit with those 3 keycaps would be awesome :D If not in this round definitely keep it in mind :)

imsto might a good option, he's done similar, single keycap group buys in the past for very small MOQ's.

but sadly hes not using your design MOZ  :'(
thats why now i definitely in for your japanese set design :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 06:17:46
Thanks, but let's not discuss that here, this thread is for Originative's GB.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 04 May 2016, 06:19:19
hahaha yeah thats right.. cant wait too see japanese mockup :p
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: skeaono on Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:00:24
Can there be a small ass backspace?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:34:46
Yeah that's why I wanted to ask, even just a single kit with those 3 keycaps would be awesome :D If not in this round definitely keep it in mind :)

imsto might a good option, he's done similar, single keycap group buys in the past for very small MOQ's.

I tried to order 2 hungarian sets from imsto 3 month ago, but he was not in the mood making them.

He asked me to wait for his GB, but later he canceled the hungarian option, as we didn't reach the MOQ of 10.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:42:16
I think the MOQ here is around 150-200, Sheraton knows the exact number.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: blighty on Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:43:04
I think the kit is missing a R1 delete key for 75% layouts (top to bottom: R1 delete, R1 home, R2 pg up, R3 pg dn,  R4 end).  If that key cannot be added, hopefully the keycap colours from this buy will match the 1800 kits Shadovved offered.  Looking forward to the rest of the mock ups!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: redskull on Wed, 04 May 2016, 09:05:02
MOZ,

the arabic option for colors option 1 and 2 are the same. should be an option for say, green?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 09:08:53
the arabic option for colors option 1 and 2 are the same. should be an option for say, green?
That's correct, it's been corrected.

I think the kit is missing a R1 delete key for 75% layouts (top to bottom: R1 delete, R1 home, R2 pg up, R3 pg dn,  R4 end).  If that key cannot be added, hopefully the keycap colours from this buy will match the 1800 kits Shadovved offered.  Looking forward to the rest of the mock ups!
Ah yes, should incorporate that.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:31:39
is the classic black that is on sale in originative are made by MOD keyboards?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: romevi on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:34:00
What about implementing your Aurebesh mock-ups into this design?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:55:11
is the classic black that is on sale in originative are made by MOD keyboards?

Yes sir!

For everyone else asking about other mock up designs, I cannot accommodate others as of now.

We'll be pushing for Classic, Arabic, Hangul, Japanese, and Cyrillic. There'll be options for different colors for each sets, but that'll also be a to a minimum.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: SJHL on Wed, 04 May 2016, 13:38:53
interested~
so will the hangul keycaps look something like the imsto hangul cherry keycaps?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qocOehy.jpg)


I wish there was a black (E) cyan (H) colorway

Hey, thats mine!  ;D

In any case, I'm interested also.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: hojunski on Wed, 04 May 2016, 14:49:19
interested~
so will the hangul keycaps look something like the imsto hangul cherry keycaps?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qocOehy.jpg)


I wish there was a black (E) cyan (H) colorway

Hey, thats mine!  ;D

In any case, I'm interested also.

oh haha, sorry forgot to credit you
just found it off google lol
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: derpingit on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:00:30
interested as well.  you know..it wouldn't hurt if you had a set with diff color print :D
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:16:13
Would it be possible to do this as a single pack? just these 3 keys? if there is interest of course:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SVgCNZL.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IBBW5NJ.jpg)


What is that? :o
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:37:07
Looks like universal Nordic keys.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: renzpwns on Wed, 04 May 2016, 22:36:45
Quite interested with these options, I'm guessing these will ship a bit after IMSTO's GB has shipped?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 May 2016, 00:41:31
Will the sets be using the Winkeys shown in the mockup?

More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/03/Blackv2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Skydra on Thu, 05 May 2016, 01:16:38
Super interested! Esp interested for the green arabic and red hiragana!!! (but will probably can't resist the urge to buy more...)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 05 May 2016, 02:17:13
Will the sets be using the Winkeys shown in the mockup?

More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/03/Blackv2.png)

For the Classic, Arabic and Russian sets, yes. For the Hiragana and Hangul, most likely not.

--------------------------------------------------

What do you guys think about dual-toned mods (Icon and text legends different colors) for the dual language sets.

My personal view is no, just throwing this out there in case people are into that.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 05 May 2016, 02:20:05
What do you guys think about dual-toned mods (Icon and text legends different colors) for the dual language sets.

My personal view is no, just throwing this out there in case people are into that.

Please no.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 05 May 2016, 02:24:57
What do you guys think about dual-toned mods (Icon and text legends different colors) for the dual language sets.

My personal view is no, just throwing this out there in case people are into that.

Please no.

i must say no :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: derzemel on Thu, 05 May 2016, 02:37:39
^nope

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: popkorn62 on Thu, 05 May 2016, 04:31:52
--------------------------------------------------

What do you guys think about dual-toned mods (Icon and text legends different colors) for the dual language sets.

My personal view is no, just throwing this out there in case people are into that.
Please don't
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 May 2016, 06:46:34
Will the sets be using the Winkeys shown in the mockup?
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/03/Blackv2.png)
For the Classic, Arabic and Russian sets, yes. For the Hiragana and Hangul, most likely not.

All right  :cool:   I'll be down for a set.

So it's going to be the black Win 95/98 logo, and not the multicolored one?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 05 May 2016, 07:05:26
So it's going to be the black Win 95/98 logo, and not the multicolored one?
Correct, the multicolored one is too busy and doesn't go well with the overall mono/dual tone nature of the legends.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 05 May 2016, 09:06:49
I got shot down with the multi legend mods...

This set will be ran soon with an approximate shipping time of 1-2 months.

Edit: I would say 2 months to be on the safer side.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 05 May 2016, 09:18:43
I got shot down with the multi legend mods...

You mean the dual tone colored mods?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: joey on Thu, 05 May 2016, 09:22:18
What's the "MOD Keyboards" thing? How does that related to EnjoyPBT or Gateron.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 05 May 2016, 09:28:10
Alright, first two sets to put under the scanner and find any issues with the legends, colors can be discussed later as well.

Classic is the base for the other sets, even more important to get right.
Classic:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/05/Classic.png)

Arabic:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/05/Arabic8fc73.png)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 May 2016, 09:40:57
So it's going to be the black Win 95/98 logo, and not the multicolored one?
Correct, the multicolored one is too busy and doesn't go well with the overall mono/dual tone nature of the legends.

Sounds good  :thumb:

It be cool to see a Greek set .
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Fri, 06 May 2016, 19:42:25
It be cool to see a Greek set .

That would be pretty sweet :)

I think pootekq or someone has a set you could use for example.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 07 May 2016, 04:35:28
So it's going to be the black Win 95/98 logo, and not the multicolored one?
Correct, the multicolored one is too busy and doesn't go well with the overall mono/dual tone nature of the legends.

Sounds good  :thumb:

It be cool to see a Greek set .

I think I'll try to crank out 2 new legend sets every group buy. This time it'll just be these 5.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 07 May 2016, 05:45:56
We just got some new information as well for this Group Buy. I'll be releasing it in 2-3 weeks :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 May 2016, 07:48:41
I've updated the OP with the colors for the Classic and Arabic versions. Please have a look and see if it meets your expectations. If changes to the color tones are required, now is the time to speak up.

Edit, Added Russian and Hangul as well.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:21:42
I've updated the OP with the colors for the Classic and Arabic versions. Please have a look and see if it meets your expectations. If changes to the color tones are required, now is the time to speak up.

Any chances of the Japanese one happening with Cyan and Pink/Purple, or even better the other way around(Pink/Purple for main and Cyan for secondary) ?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: smart5088 on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:23:23
enjoy pbt dye-sub base keycaps Ivory color similar.

this keycap what base color

white? or Beige ? or light gray ? or enjoy pbt dye-sub keycaps similar ivory ?

gmk keycap color code CP ? or L9 ?


Hangul , Arabic interest


and. When Can I Buy? , when shipping start?


wait for reply. thanks.!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: redskull on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:47:48
I've updated the OP with the colors for the Classic and Arabic versions. Please have a look and see if it meets your expectations. If changes to the color tones are required, now is the time to speak up.

Edit, Added Russian and Hangul as well.

i like the idea of the yellow for arabic, but it seems yellow on white/beige are quite bad. can't really see anything of the arabics/symbols :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:54:39
It's hard to say what it will look like when produced, but yes, I was thinking of making it slightly darker for better legibility. The cyan also suffers from this but is quite popular.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: honeynugget on Mon, 09 May 2016, 13:55:57
Any chance of getting pink or cyan simple sets?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 09 May 2016, 13:59:49
These look good! Will be in for a few sets :)



Also wanted to say I really like the key selection in these sets, HHKB support, and windowed keys are great! I will have a hard time choosing which sets to buy :P
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 09 May 2016, 18:13:44
Hey sherry, the cyan will be the same shade as the blue Hangul on your site?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 09 May 2016, 18:44:31
Hey sherry, the cyan will be the same shade as the blue Hangul on your site?

The Cyan will be more like TU2 (or UN6037) from GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 09 May 2016, 19:47:33
It's hard to say what it will look like when produced, but yes, I was thinking of making it slightly darker for better legibility. The cyan also suffers from this but is quite popular.


Like where this is heading, might again get involved with another Key-cap Group Buy here only because Sherryton is back.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: NiceDay4Goats on Mon, 09 May 2016, 20:45:36
I really like the looks of these, especially the forest green. Is there any possibility of being able to order a second left shift key (fc660m)?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 10 May 2016, 04:16:59
blue-red hangul looks sweet :p

oh yeah still waiting on jap mockup  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ileben on Tue, 10 May 2016, 04:17:50
I just really really really want that hangul in cyan/pink combo! I've got miami cyrillic coming from IMSTOs gb, but hangul is way more my cup of tea.

Regarding BSP as an alternative factory, I've heard in the past that BSP fits very tight onto MX stems, and I once got a set from IMSTO that I think was produced by BSP that I was too afraid to put on because it was nearly breaking my switches. Is that still the case for new BSP-produced sets these days?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 10 May 2016, 04:43:50
blue-red hangul looks sweet :p
oh yeah still waiting on jap mockup  :cool:

Fun fact, the blue and red colors used for the blue-red combo are the exact ones as the reference colors for the official flag.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:02:23
blue-red hangul looks sweet :p
oh yeah still waiting on jap mockup  :cool:

Fun fact, the blue and red colors used for the blue-red combo are the exact ones as the reference colors for the official flag.

so thats why it looks familiar in my eyes, dam im just realize it now, its south korea flag color :))
now really i want that blue-red hangul :cool:
and of course black-red japanese too :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:22:57
Uploaded mockups for Japanese set. Scrapped the Red-Black in favour of Red/Pink-Black set as they were too close. Added Purple/Cyan as requested. Purple used for the Japanese set has a bit more red in it as compared to the one used for Classic set. I felt it goes better with the Cyan.

Also minor color adjustments made; cyan is now closer to the TU2 from GMK for all sets using that color and the gold color is slightly darker for Arabic set for better legibility.

I'd also like feedback on more thing, does the classic Win logo look alright in the non-black colors or do you think the new Windows logo will look better?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:42:13
ok now im waiting the GB run :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:54:31
I'd also like feedback on more thing, does the classic Win logo look alright in the non-black colors or do you think the new Windows logo will look better?

The Classic Win logo looks great in the different colors. It might make me buy some sets I wasn't planning on.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 10 May 2016, 06:39:58
Uploaded mockups for Japanese set. Scrapped the Red-Black in favour of Red/Pink-Black set as they were too close. Added Purple/Cyan as requested. Purple used for the Japanese set has a bit more red in it as compared to the one used for Classic set. I felt it goes better with the Cyan.

Oh god, that Japanese set is gorgeous, I might consider ordering more than one now.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 10 May 2016, 08:18:00
Wow really love the Japanese. Can they get the same blue-red color as the Hangul? The blue-red is perfect, like olivetti with a touch of red, perfect. But I'm not into Hangul..

You know I'm interested without saying it loud right?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 10 May 2016, 08:49:54
If there's enough interest I can add other colors, will wait for Sheraton to comment on MOQ per color.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: SJHL on Tue, 10 May 2016, 10:32:50
If there's enough interest I can add other colors, will wait for Sheraton to comment on MOQ per color.

Loving all of the colors!

Would it be possible to see if there's any interest for Black-Purple Hangul keyset?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: iamacicada on Tue, 10 May 2016, 13:55:05
Definitely interested! I wonder if it would be better to use Gateron white (milk) alphas instead of beige? Not really sure because I've only had Gateron beige and they felt a bit more yellow-ish compare to GMK U9 and original Cherry beige alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 10 May 2016, 14:11:54
Definitely interested! I wonder if it would be better to use Gateron white (milk) alphas instead of beige? Not really sure because I've only had Gateron beige and they felt a bit more yellow-ish compare to GMK U9 and original Cherry beige alphas.

Gateron's beige does look a little more yellowish then U9, but it's closer then what the bright white (milk) would be.

I actually really like Gateron's beige color
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 10 May 2016, 14:54:18
Interested in the Arabic caps.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: iamacicada on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:10:11
Definitely interested! I wonder if it would be better to use Gateron white (milk) alphas instead of beige? Not really sure because I've only had Gateron beige and they felt a bit more yellow-ish compare to GMK U9 and original Cherry beige alphas.

Gateron's beige does look a little more yellowish then U9, but it's closer then what the bright white (milk) would be.

I actually really like Gateron's beige color

Ah thanks, because I've never had Gateron's milk so I can't tell how it looks IRL. However I just came across these pics from azhdar


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/b1sjLdL.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9DILbc9.jpg)



The color matches quite nicely with OG doubleshots. Although he said they were "beiges of gaterons" but it really looks like white milk to me because gateron beige should be more yellow. Or perhaps its just because of the lighting
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: vegs on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:28:56
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: hojunski on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:01:00
ooh I like the blue on the black/blue hangul set ;D
is it possible to make the hangul characters a little bit bigger? looks a bit small in comparison to japanese/russian characters
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:32:16
If there's enough interest I can add other colors, will wait for Sheraton to comment on MOQ per color.

Yay glad at least that isn't only dream. Oh I realized in hhkb the 1.5u key is CMD (or windows or os neutral) will you add this?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 11 May 2016, 01:05:19
is it possible to make the hangul characters a little bit bigger? looks a bit small in comparison to japanese/russian characters

That's true but the symbols on O & P are about as big as the Japanese ones.

If you made them bigger they'd be too big & if you only made the smaller symbols bigger there would be an inconstancy in font sizes, assuming they're all the same font size right now.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 11 May 2016, 01:16:24
Pls just take my money!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 11 May 2016, 01:27:38
is it possible to make the hangul characters a little bit bigger? looks a bit small in comparison to japanese/russian characters

That's true but the symbols on O & P are about as big as the Japanese ones.

If you made them bigger they'd be too big & if you only made the smaller symbols bigger there would be an inconstancy in font sizes, assuming they're all the same font size right now.

This is correct, also the characters on Q, W, E
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: hojunski on Wed, 11 May 2016, 01:31:58
is it possible to make the hangul characters a little bit bigger? looks a bit small in comparison to japanese/russian characters

That's true but the symbols on O & P are about as big as the Japanese ones.

If you made them bigger they'd be too big & if you only made the smaller symbols bigger there would be an inconstancy in font sizes, assuming they're all the same font size right now.

ah yeah, I get what you're saying
I think I'm comparing it to IMSTO's hangul cherry set too much; actually it looks like the consonant characters (keys left of Y,H, and B) are slightly bigger than the vowel characters - but overall it looks pretty consistent .. actually idek anymore LOL
but if the mockups are finalized, oh wells haha

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1587/25972886745_7681a08d01_c.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: RinSama269 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 04:10:24
The purple and cyan Japanese set looks awesome MOZ :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 11 May 2016, 04:20:08
It be cool to see a Greek set .
That would be pretty sweet :)

I think pootekq or someone has a set you could use for example.

Yep.  ever since I saw his G81-3026SAQ I've wanted that set  :p

Although I would want it with Text + Icon mods.

(http://puu.sh/nNlDG/1a91986839.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: s3vv4 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 11:49:02
Edit: Removed
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 11 May 2016, 12:27:23
As much as we'd like to add more "language" options, we'll be sticking to the five mentioned earlier. For the sake of keeping this thread clean, please abstain from discussion about other legends. Once the GB for this starts we'll create another thread asking for language options for the next round.

For now, we are looking at five color options per set. Suggest away and I'll create a poll next week.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 11 May 2016, 16:53:58
Not sure how much others would like it but I'd like an all black Japanese set.

Would look great with the recent CMYK buy.

Although I would want it with Text + Icon mods.

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/nNlDG/1a91986839.jpg)


Same  ^-^

It bugs me that only Enter has text lol.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: jebbra on Fri, 13 May 2016, 00:46:38
Still can suggest? I will suggest Blue-Red Japanese then for color combo. If the blue-red on Hangul already exclusive because of its reference of South Korean flag then the Blue-Red like Hangul in Originative is OK too, look fresh.

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And I would like to suggest the color used in this set will be better match the color of GMK Spacebar that will hit Originative soon (the cyan-pink hangul better match GMK Cyan Spacebar), as we can combo it then  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 13 May 2016, 07:57:41
We're going to try to make the following colors as close to the GMK colors as possible,
- Cyan <--> UN6037/TU2
- Magenta/Pink <--> UN33656
- Purple in Classic <--> UN5046/DY
- Red in Classic, Russian and Japanese (Black-Red) <--> V1
- Blue in Classic and Arabic <--> V4
- Blue in Hangul (Black-Blue) <--> N5
- Green in Classic and Arabic <--> N7
- Orange in Classic and Russian <--> V2

This will allow people to use them with existing and future mods.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Sat, 14 May 2016, 01:00:14
blue-red for hangul is V4(blue) and V1(red) right? ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 14 May 2016, 01:18:44
No, the colors for that are matched to official color specs for the flag. It adds to the novelty.

But the colors aren't too far from V4, V1.

Remember, none of the colors are same as GMK, we are going to try to make them as close as possible. GMK use ABS, this is PBT, then there are different vendors, etc.  These things will add to the variations.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: tomboy on Sat, 14 May 2016, 08:16:03
Still can suggest? I will suggest Blue-Red Japanese then for color combo.

I would love to see Blue-Red Japanese too!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: bubblebobbler on Mon, 16 May 2016, 06:42:04
I'd be in, especially with the suggestion of an ISO kit in the future  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 16 May 2016, 07:10:09
I'll upload a few more color options later this week and then start a poll to gauge interest in each set.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 16 May 2016, 20:58:03
I'll upload a few more color options later this week and then start a poll to gauge interest in each set.

Thanks :)

Very excited for this after missing the Shadovved PBT GB.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: romevi on Mon, 16 May 2016, 21:40:39
I'll upload a few more color options later this week and then start a poll to gauge interest in each set.

Thanks :)

Very excited for this after missing the Shadovved PBT GB.

But he has extras.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 16 May 2016, 22:54:35
I'll upload a few more color options later this week and then start a poll to gauge interest in each set.

Thanks :)

Very excited for this after missing the Shadovved PBT GB.

But he has extras.

Not Arabic or Japanese tho :p
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ChQuNg on Tue, 17 May 2016, 11:06:14
In for a purple and cyan Japanese set. Looks amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: joey on Tue, 17 May 2016, 11:13:48
I got my EnjoyPBT sets yesterday. I have to ask, will these sets have a thinner font? When you compare the EnjoyPBT font to old Cherry double shots, there is a noticeable different in thickness. I think I prefer the thinner font :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:21:32
I got my EnjoyPBT sets yesterday. I have to ask, will these sets have a thinner font? When you compare the EnjoyPBT font to old Cherry double shots, there is a noticeable different in thickness. I think I prefer the thinner font :thumb:

I mean dyesub is just going to be thicker than doubleshot naturally. I bet if you compared the enjoypbt to OG dyesubs they'd still be thicker, but it would be a less noticeable difference.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: airs on Wed, 18 May 2016, 12:21:44
Looks awesome. I would be in for two or maybe even three sets.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: zutroy on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:43:54
Definitely interested in a standard set w/ blue legends.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ika on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:50:08
I got my EnjoyPBT sets yesterday. I have to ask, will these sets have a thinner font? When you compare the EnjoyPBT font to old Cherry double shots, there is a noticeable different in thickness. I think I prefer the thinner font :thumb:

I mean dyesub is just going to be thicker than doubleshot naturally. I bet if you compared the enjoypbt to OG dyesubs they'd still be thicker, but it would be a less noticeable difference.

It depends on who does the dyesubbing and on what base. For ex. IMSTO dyesubs on BSP were noticeably cleaner and less fuzzy than either IMSTO dyesubs on Gateron base or EnjoyPBT dyesubbing, which are comparable in terms of quality.

AFAIK MOZ hasn't disclosed who's doing the dyesubbing here but I suspect it's going to be enjoyPBT based on the color selection. Until MOZ says otherwise, I would assume they will look fairly similar to enjoyPBT dyesubs.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 18 May 2016, 16:44:24
I'm going to leave it to Sheraton to answer those question, as I understand, he is a little busy right now.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 18 May 2016, 16:50:57
There was a recent post on Originative that mentioned a new dyesubber. I believe this is who they're using for these sets. Here's the post. http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=7217b4b610c10f912cb521846&id=0df6ac92f5&e=8d579fa505 (http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=7217b4b610c10f912cb521846&id=0df6ac92f5&e=8d579fa505)
Seems its the same people who did their currently available dyesub sets. I have the Classic Black and its pretty nice
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 18 May 2016, 16:52:43
edit:oops, meant to edit my previous post
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 18 May 2016, 16:58:10
So will these be Gateron caps with a new company doing the dyesubbing?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:02:07
So will these be Gateron caps with a new company doing the dyesubbing?
I can't be sure that its Gateron but it definitely looks like it. It's thick and cherry profile. I ordered some Gateron blanks so I can compare them in a few days.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:05:52
So will these be Gateron caps with a new company doing the dyesubbing?
I can't be sure that its Gateron but it definitely looks like it. It's thick and cherry profile. I ordered some Gateron blanks so I can compare them in a few days.
OK cool. I never saw the name Gateron so I've been wondering. 
I look forward to hearing about your comparison.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 18 May 2016, 19:32:26
I got my EnjoyPBT sets yesterday. I have to ask, will these sets have a thinner font? When you compare the EnjoyPBT font to old Cherry double shots, there is a noticeable different in thickness. I think I prefer the thinner font :thumb:

I mean dyesub is just going to be thicker than doubleshot naturally. I bet if you compared the enjoypbt to OG dyesubs they'd still be thicker, but it would be a less noticeable difference.

It depends on who does the dyesubbing and on what base. For ex. IMSTO dyesubs on BSP were noticeably cleaner and less fuzzy than either IMSTO dyesubs on Gateron base or EnjoyPBT dyesubbing, which are comparable in terms of quality.

AFAIK MOZ hasn't disclosed who's doing the dyesubbing here but I suspect it's going to be enjoyPBT based on the color selection. Until MOZ says otherwise, I would assume they will look fairly similar to enjoyPBT dyesubs.

The PBT sets on our site currently will be the same dye-sub to the ones in this group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 18 May 2016, 19:37:20
How is this different from EnjoyPBT which is still on sale by Shadovved?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 18 May 2016, 20:08:33
How is this different from EnjoyPBT which is still on sale by Shadovved?

a bunch of different (and imo more desirable) designs
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: jebbra on Wed, 18 May 2016, 22:23:28
Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 18 May 2016, 22:59:38
How is this different from EnjoyPBT which is still on sale by Shadovved?

Shadovved's group buy is great! I highly recommend it.

Our Group Buy is more focused on color variations and new legends :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 18 May 2016, 23:31:26
Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?

The people that are buying these sets usually don't use those types of boards :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: romevi on Thu, 19 May 2016, 00:06:58
Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?

The people that are buying these sets usually don't use those types of boards :rolleyes:

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 19 May 2016, 01:22:31
Awesome mockups.
Would it be possible to make the right winkey on the Black/Red Japanese set have black text for カタカナ and ひらがな?

I feel like having it red doesn't match, since the winkey flag is red also.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 19 May 2016, 02:28:04
Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?

The people that are buying these sets usually don't use those types of boards :rolleyes:

Umm is it because these kind of set doesn't support those types of board so we never see them alive?

With the regular planck/preonic drop on MD and the lack of keycaps with legend for it, I'm pretty sure many people will interested. I know planck layout isn't the same each other because the programmibility but it consist of only 1u key so making a legend in 2 kind of row seems like a feasible way in term of budget (1u enter in R2 and R3, 1u tab in R4 and R3 etc) at least 1 of the option row is from the default layout.

Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: hojunski on Thu, 19 May 2016, 02:57:30
Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?

The people that are buying these sets usually don't use those types of boards :rolleyes:

 :rolleyes:

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 19 May 2016, 04:00:12
Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?

The people that are buying these sets usually don't use those types of boards :rolleyes:

 :rolleyes:

 :rolleyes:

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 19 May 2016, 04:02:44
Would it be possible to make the right winkey on the Black/Red Japanese set have black text for カタカナ and ひらがな?I feel like having it red doesn't match, since the winkey flag is red also.
I think I should make the red dot black for consistency.


Wil there be a planck/atomic add-on in the future?
Definitely not for this round, we aren't looking to add any more keys. We can however consider a generic sort of addon for the future, something like a "mod set", with only primary legends and secondary legends which will be common to all the language kits in Light Grey color base. This is to meet the MOQ if such a addon is ever run. This is more or less consistent with the policy we'll follow for the ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 19 May 2016, 05:31:28
I think I should make the red dot black for consistency.

But Japan flag is red dot?

Definitely not for this round, we aren't looking to add any more keys. We can however consider a generic sort of addon for the future, something like a "mod set", with only primary legends and secondary legends which will be common to all the language kits in Light Grey color base. This is to meet the MOQ if such a addon is ever run. This is more or less consistent with the policy we'll follow for the ISO.

Yap I do not suggest it for this round, but later as a separate mod kit like you said. In your policy the mod kit always light grey with black legend? Or will it come in another color for the legend to match previous set?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 19 May 2016, 06:13:26
WE should be able to offer in other colors. What I meant to say was that to reach MOQ, we will have same legends, so the secondary legends if present will be independent from the base set (Arabic, Hangul, Cyrillic and Japanese).

About the win key, that is only for the black-red set. Japense text on the winkey in black would look odd with the Japanese text on the Alt key being in red.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: qwack on Thu, 19 May 2016, 07:57:05
Looks tempting. Will you have any samples to show before launching the GB, or do we have to trust blindly the mockups?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: redskull on Thu, 19 May 2016, 09:38:24
Looks tempting. Will you have any samples to show before launching the GB, or do we have to trust blindly the mockups?

keyset groupbuys dont come with samples. what is in the mockups will be very much exactly as what will be produced. you can check the countless keyset groupbuys before this including those previously on massdrop. at most, only 3d renders would be available.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: qwack on Thu, 19 May 2016, 11:21:17
That's the way it's usually done, but I remember that when Matt3o was designing the keyset for the Whitefox (dyesub PBT from an undisclosed Chinese manufacturer not Gateron/EnjoyPBT) he had samples made. Obviously, it may be more complicated here since there will be a lot of colors, but you never know. At least to see what the cyan, pink and other special colors would look like on a few keys. Since it's dyesub, it should be easier to have a few keys done first than with doubleshot keycaps, but I guess that depends on whether the GB organizer considers it worthwile or if he's confident he can sell sets just based on mockups.

Regarding "what is in the mockups will be very much exactly as what will be produced", there is often some variation. Sometimes it's for the best (Hyperfuse looks better in real life than on mockups), sometimes... ask to GMK TA buyers.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: romevi on Thu, 19 May 2016, 11:24:56
I think with thesiscamper we've been spoiled with realistic mockups.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: qwack on Thu, 19 May 2016, 11:33:03
Probably  :D

By the way, this was not a criticism regarding the way this GB is organized, just something I was wondering about. Just to be sure that it does not come across as a negative comment.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: megaforce93 on Thu, 19 May 2016, 12:15:35
Oh my, those mock ups look delicious.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: romevi on Thu, 19 May 2016, 12:44:20
Down for either Blue and Red Hangul or Purple and Cyan Japanese.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 19 May 2016, 13:27:59
Probably  :D

By the way, this was not a criticism regarding the way this GB is organized, just something I was wondering about. Just to be sure that it does not come across as a negative comment.

Not taking it in a negative way. There are sample of the dyesub quality and keycaps on Originative's store. Regarding the colors, I'llt ry to work with Sheraton to find out colorspace the dyesubber (?) uses and have the colors in that profile, if possible physical samples of the color as well (Unlikely, but worth a shot).
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 19 May 2016, 14:03:41
Would it be possible to make the right winkey on the Black/Red Japanese set have black text for カタカナ and ひらがな?I feel like having it red doesn't match, since the winkey flag is red also.
I think I should make the red dot black for consistency.

Black dot would be awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 19 May 2016, 15:35:57
would there be any chance at all of doing icon mods?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Spopepro on Thu, 19 May 2016, 15:48:30
That's the way it's usually done, but I remember that when Matt3o was designing the keyset for the Whitefox (dyesub PBT from an undisclosed Chinese manufacturer not Gateron/EnjoyPBT) he had samples made. Obviously, it may be more complicated here since there will be a lot of colors, but you never know. At least to see what the cyan, pink and other special colors would look like on a few keys. Since it's dyesub, it should be easier to have a few keys done first than with doubleshot keycaps, but I guess that depends on whether the GB organizer considers it worthwile or if he's confident he can sell sets just based on mockups.

Regarding "what is in the mockups will be very much exactly as what will be produced", there is often some variation. Sometimes it's for the best (Hyperfuse looks better in real life than on mockups), sometimes... ask to GMK TA buyers.


So the really funny thing here is that white fox samples *were* made by gateron/enjoypbt and they were under the impression they would be tapped for production. There was miscommunication (and how everything went down depends on who you talk to) and enjoypbt made a full production run, but weren't chosen as the manufacturer. Which is why you can get those colors currently from shadovved.

But yeah, samples are for big, big orders, and probably not here.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 01:53:15
would there be any chance at all of doing icon mods?

Do you means icon only mods?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 20 May 2016, 06:08:09
would there be any chance at all of doing icon mods?

Do you means icon only mods?

yeah, sorry, that's what I mean. Like on og qwertz sets
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 06:15:51
I highly doubt it, as there are few takers for icon only mods vs icon+text. It's supposed to be popular in EU, but many members here and on DT prefer them with text legends as well.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: iamacicada on Fri, 20 May 2016, 07:25:02
I highly doubt it, as there are few takers for icon only mods vs icon+text. It's supposed to be popular in EU, but many members here and on DT prefer them with text legends as well.
Perhaps a separate kit for icon-only mods could work if there's enough interest right?
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: DavidNZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 09:42:25
I'm interested in the Purple and Cyan Japanese set. Excellent key selection as well.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 20 May 2016, 09:57:30
in for a set when available, for sure
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 20 May 2016, 12:10:59
How does the Purple in the simple variant compare to enjoyPBT's Purple? I hope it's less pink and more real purple, like how the mock-up shows it.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 20 May 2016, 12:39:45
I know this is a stretch, but is there any chance to make a Colemak side kit for the more popular sets? I'm dying to find one in Cherry profile :(


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Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 12:44:23
I'm not sure about the purple used in last enjoyPBT drop but we are goign to attempt to have it as close to the GMK purple as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 12:46:11
I know this is a stretch, but is there any chance to make a Colemak side kit for the more popular sets? I'm dying to find one in Cherry profile :(


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You know what I was thinking the other day, maybe for the next round we can do a set with primary legends as Colemak and secondary as QWERTY. Similarly one for Dvorak.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 20 May 2016, 12:51:24
I know this is a stretch, but is there any chance to make a Colemak side kit for the more popular sets? I'm dying to find one in Cherry profile :(


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You know what I was thinking the other day, maybe for the next round we can do a set with primary legends as Colemak and secondary as QWERTY. Similarly one for Dvorak.

Omg!!!! I'll buy every single set if you do that :DDD

And I don't know if it's possible, but can you make Colemak side kits for already released popular GMK sets like Hyperfuse or Dolch (or even the upcoming GMK Carbon)? Not sure if the PBT colors can be similar enough to GMK
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 20 May 2016, 12:57:32
And I don't know if it's possible, but can you make Colemak side kits for already released popular GMK sets like Hyperfuse or Dolch (or even the upcoming GMK Carbon)? Not sure if the PBT colors can be similar enough to GMK

I think the issue would be more that they'd feel completely different. It would be pretty uncomfortable.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 20 May 2016, 13:00:01
And I don't know if it's possible, but can you make Colemak side kits for already released popular GMK sets like Hyperfuse or Dolch (or even the upcoming GMK Carbon)? Not sure if the PBT colors can be similar enough to GMK

I think the issue would be more that they'd feel completely different. It would be pretty uncomfortable.

That's true. It might be better to do a full alpha swap. Perhaps a purple on white Colemak alpha set can be combined with Hyperfuse. In any case, one can always dream :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 13:16:34
And I don't know if it's possible, but can you make Colemak side kits for already released popular GMK sets like Hyperfuse or Dolch (or even the upcoming GMK Carbon)? Not sure if the PBT colors can be similar enough to GMK

I think the issue would be more that they'd feel completely different. It would be pretty uncomfortable.

Exactly, will have to do a full alpha swap, not really worth it IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 20 May 2016, 13:19:02
And I don't know if it's possible, but can you make Colemak side kits for already released popular GMK sets like Hyperfuse or Dolch (or even the upcoming GMK Carbon)? Not sure if the PBT colors can be similar enough to GMK

I think the issue would be more that they'd feel completely different. It would be pretty uncomfortable.

Exactly, will have to do a full alpha swap, not really worth it IMO.

I'll be still up for buying any purple/blue/black on white Colemak full sets if you ever make any in the future!
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 20 May 2016, 13:34:51
Let's stick to what we have settled on for this round. We'll create a new IC thread and take up design options before Round 2, don't want to think too much ahead, one thing at a time.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 20 May 2016, 13:42:44


You know what I was thinking the other day, maybe for the next round we can do a set with primary legends as Colemak and secondary as QWERTY. Similarly one for Dvorak.
That would be awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: tomboy on Fri, 20 May 2016, 15:15:44


You know what I was thinking the other day, maybe for the next round we can do a set with primary legends as Colemak and secondary as QWERTY. Similarly one for Dvorak.
That would be awesome.

And workman too... that would be a dream come true.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Fiery on Sat, 21 May 2016, 07:40:29
What about a nordic dvorak iso layout. (Doubt i will ever be able to find that in my lifetime...) :p

For now I'm just gonna stick to blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 21 May 2016, 08:23:30
Added  the colors that were asked since last update and poll added

Please vote for the color options you are interested in buying:
http://goo.gl/forms/GtVNnK2OitLbM9Kv1
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: UTEster750 on Sat, 21 May 2016, 08:55:44
Added  the colors that were asked since last update and poll added

Please vote for the color options you are interested in buying:
http://goo.gl/forms/GtVNnK2OitLbM9Kv1


Voted. :)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: SJHL on Sat, 21 May 2016, 09:38:05
Added  the colors that were asked since last update and poll added

Please vote for the color options you are interested in buying:
http://goo.gl/forms/GtVNnK2OitLbM9Kv1


Thanks for adding black and purple color option for Hangul! Hopefully there's enough interest.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: yzkoo on Sat, 21 May 2016, 09:56:04
Set looks awesome. Addition of center stemmed caps lock would be awesome since windowed caps are offered
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 21 May 2016, 11:07:10
There are two caps lock keys,
1.Full touch center stem
2.Stepped off-center stem

As well as a full touch center stem Control
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: nyunyu on Sat, 21 May 2016, 13:27:23
Is there any estimate about the ordering period and the shipping time?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: switchnollie on Sat, 21 May 2016, 13:28:42
Awe yiss, submitted :)

+1 for black/black Japanese :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: dannrawr on Sat, 21 May 2016, 13:53:28
dibs on arabic!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 21 May 2016, 15:02:22
Voted for blue red hiragana! The render color is very nice, hope the real keys could be that crisp!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: yzkoo on Sun, 22 May 2016, 12:32:13
There are two caps lock keys,
1.Full touch center stem
2.Stepped off-center stem

As well as a full touch center stem Control
My bad. I meant the windowed center stemmed caps lock (leopolds / keycools).
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: nyunyu on Sun, 22 May 2016, 13:53:59
My bad. I meant the windowed center stemmed caps lock (leopolds / keycools).

Do you really need them?

(http://i.imgur.com/4Ncy0q3.jpg)

Same thick Gateron caps from Shadovved's last GB on a Cherry G80-3800 with integrated Caps/Num/Scr LED.
(This keyboard can't use either the full, or the stepped Caps Lock caps, as its switch is in different position again. I have to use a spare R1 1.5U key on it, as nothing else fits. :()

Maybe the light gray mod keys are less translucent than these white caps, but I can't test them.
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Saiph on Sun, 22 May 2016, 22:23:00
OK cool. I never saw the name Gateron so I've been wondering. 
I look forward to hearing about your comparison.
Originative mentioned in their new pbt valentine preorder that MOD works with other groups to get their dyesubs, and that enjoyPBT is one of those groups. I also received my Gateron blanks and as far as I can tell the Classic Black from Originative is Gateron. It looks like the exact same thickness and the caps have the same texture.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 23 May 2016, 01:33:28
been looking for someone to make a green cryllic set so here is to hoping. But im definitely in for the japanese purple/cyan.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 23 May 2016, 04:52:24
OK cool. I never saw the name Gateron so I've been wondering. 
I look forward to hearing about your comparison.
Originative mentioned in their new pbt valentine preorder that MOD works with other groups to get their dyesubs, and that enjoyPBT is one of those groups. I also received my Gateron blanks and as far as I can tell the Classic Black from Originative is Gateron. It looks like the exact same thickness and the caps have the same texture.
Thanks for the comparison.
Would love to see some pictures if anyone has some.

Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: jebbra on Mon, 23 May 2016, 11:28:01
Blue - Red Japanese is V1 and V4? In term of closeness of course.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 23 May 2016, 11:51:28
Blue - Red Japanese is V1 and V4? In term of closeness of course.

Yes
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Data on Mon, 23 May 2016, 12:04:50
Damn, that Purple & Cyan really pops.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Saiph on Mon, 23 May 2016, 21:15:04
Thanks for the comparison.
Would love to see some pictures if anyone has some.
I got their Hangul set today so i can show that along with the Classic Black. The one on the right is the Gateron blanks.
http://imgur.com/a/lrLTx (http://imgur.com/a/lrLTx)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: hojunski on Mon, 23 May 2016, 21:47:15
Thanks for the comparison.
Would love to see some pictures if anyone has some.
I got their Hangul set today so i can show that along with the Classic Black. The one on the right is the Gateron blanks.
http://imgur.com/a/lrLTx (http://imgur.com/a/lrLTx)
which hangul set is that?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Saiph on Mon, 23 May 2016, 22:35:55
which hangul set is that?
It's the 60% hangul on Originative right now. https://www.originativeco.com/products/hangul?variant=16850508549 (https://www.originativeco.com/products/hangul?variant=16850508549)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: hojunski on Mon, 23 May 2016, 22:40:51
It's the 60% hangul on Originative right now. https://www.originativeco.com/products/hangul?variant=16850508549 (https://www.originativeco.com/products/hangul?variant=16850508549)

oh the pink looks nice, id rather have it instead of the purple option
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 24 May 2016, 05:00:14
Thanks for the comparison.
Would love to see some pictures if anyone has some.
I got their Hangul set today so i can show that along with the Classic Black. The one on the right is the Gateron blanks.
http://imgur.com/a/lrLTx (http://imgur.com/a/lrLTx)
Excellent. Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: jebbra on Fri, 27 May 2016, 07:07:41
I'm starting to get impatient lol
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 27 May 2016, 07:52:16
hahaha

Sheraton should be back in the States soon, he can give a timeline on this.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 27 May 2016, 10:30:22
How are the poll results up until now? Just curious.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Applet on Sun, 29 May 2016, 07:49:28
I'm very interested. It has a great key-selection for my 75% :)
Title: Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
Post by: Kemindo on Sun, 29 May 2016, 14:04:59
Woah, that's colorful! I doubt we'll be able to accommodate this for this round, but who knows! Up to Sheraton to find out.

U can tell sheraton do it plz ! It will be amazing pack ever  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Sun, 29 May 2016, 23:00:30
Woah, that's colorful! I doubt we'll be able to accommodate this for this round, but who knows! Up to Sheraton to find out.

U can tell sheraton do it plz ! It will be amazing pack ever  :thumb:

I want to go forth with this pack, but we are kind of limited on front printing. I'll see what I can pull.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 30 May 2016, 05:29:30
Wow that's awesome Sherryton!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 30 May 2016, 09:16:50
hahaha

Sheraton should be back in the States soon, he can give a timeline on this.

I wanted to update you guys a little on the timeline. This set is absolutely ready to launch. MOZ has all the files ready, and we just need the colors.

The problem is I just finished the space bar group buy, and I just launched a new one as well (hopefully you'll see it on GH tomorrow). As soon as I can wrap that one up by early July, then you'll see a launch.

Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: romevi on Mon, 30 May 2016, 09:20:53
hahaha

Sheraton should be back in the States soon, he can give a timeline on this.

I wanted to update you guys a little on the timeline. This set is absolutely ready to launch. MOZ has all the files ready, and we just need the colors.

The problem is I just finished the space bar group buy, and I just launched a new one as well (hopefully you'll see it on GH tomorrow). As soon as I can wrap that one up by early July, then you'll see a launch.

Hey, gives me more time to save!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 30 May 2016, 09:22:59
I second that. Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 30 May 2016, 09:37:32
hahaha

Sheraton should be back in the States soon, he can give a timeline on this.

I wanted to update you guys a little on the timeline. This set is absolutely ready to launch. MOZ has all the files ready, and we just need the colors.

The problem is I just finished the space bar group buy, and I just launched a new one as well (hopefully you'll see it on GH tomorrow). As soon as I can wrap that one up by early July, then you'll see a launch.

Hey, gives me more time to save!

I said early July, but it looks like Valentine is arriving next week...
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 31 May 2016, 00:25:09

I wanted to update you guys a little on the timeline. This set is absolutely ready to launch. MOZ has all the files ready, and we just need the colors.

The problem is I just finished the space bar group buy, and I just launched a new one as well (hopefully you'll see it on GH tomorrow). As soon as I can wrap that one up by early July, then you'll see a launch.

A bit sad blue red green space bar isn't on GB and the price now is twice the CMB GB. But still will get it anyway  :p

So we talking about July for these Dual Tone Keysets?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 31 May 2016, 01:47:45

I wanted to update you guys a little on the timeline. This set is absolutely ready to launch. MOZ has all the files ready, and we just need the colors.

The problem is I just finished the space bar group buy, and I just launched a new one as well (hopefully you'll see it on GH tomorrow). As soon as I can wrap that one up by early July, then you'll see a launch.

A bit sad blue red green space bar isn't on GB and the price now is twice the CMB GB. But still will get it anyway  :p

So we talking about July for these Dual Tone Keysets?

wuuuuuuuttttt! july? still long way to go then. :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Bob on Tue, 31 May 2016, 01:56:14
I'm absolutely up for legends in "Black (English) & Purple (Hangul)". I love the idea of the rose of sharon OS key, and the hangul font you chose looks really nice. It will be the greatest present my wife never knew she wanted!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:00:15
Thought it would start sooner :eek:

Will have more funds for it this way tho ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 31 May 2016, 03:25:21
Yes, save your monies and then buy them all :))
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: renzpwns on Thu, 02 June 2016, 17:01:05
Blue/Red Hangul and Japanese looks great.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Butter on Thu, 02 June 2016, 17:57:10
Yes, save your monies and then buy them all :))
Like how soon? Are we talking this month?

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 03 June 2016, 23:29:20
The Valentine should be wrapping up next week. Look out for a launch right after. We'll be working on it once we're back home!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Sat, 04 June 2016, 23:35:58
Love that cyan and pink..
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: harlw on Sat, 04 June 2016, 23:43:16
COOL! Nice work!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Soulpyre on Sun, 05 June 2016, 08:51:01
I know the chance is slim but how likely would it be to get Chinese legends? (Zhuyin input method)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Sun, 05 June 2016, 09:30:42
I know the chance is slim but how likely would it be to get Chinese legends? (Zhuyin input method)

Plan is to do 2 new legends every group buy! Maybe on the next one, we can handle that.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: bananaplum on Thu, 09 June 2016, 01:27:14
OMG I am so happy to see this. I found Originative's Hangul set last night and was directed here when I asked for TKL expansion set.

I absolutely love the red/blue and the cyan/magenta. As a Korean, former graphic designer, at first I really wasn't sure about the font choice as Gungsuh font is very old-fashioned looking (not in a good way but like a "square" way), and only gained a kind of hipster cool status recently through web comics and whatnot... but with the bright colors I must admit it looks very unique and it's really growing on me. It does have that irreverent feel to it.

I do wish for a nice, colorful Hangul set with a sans-serif font. Pretty much 99% Hangul keycaps that I've seen so far always feature Korean in serif fonts. Also on dark backgrounds. I'm not complaining though. This set looks gorgeous.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 09 June 2016, 04:41:45
For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Thu, 09 June 2016, 04:56:56
For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?

Although I am not Korean and do not speak korean, I am still strongly considering going for a Hangul set to pay homage to one of my custom Korean boards. If I have a say in the matter then I'd prefer the Originative font.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: bananaplum on Thu, 09 June 2016, 08:45:40
For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?

My knowledge of fonts is getting a bit rusty but I believe that the font used in the Originative set is Gulim, another one of the default Korean fonts on Windows OS. Aesthetics-wise, I definitely prefer the Originative font due to the sans-serif look. (which is pretty ironic given that all of the design students and faculty loved to hate on the font in school ;D)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: bananaplum on Thu, 09 June 2016, 08:54:41
Oh, and if I might make another small request...

On the mockups it doesn't look like the "bar" on the F and J keys affected the position of the Hangul letters, but on the Originative set the "ㄹ" on the F key was slightly pushed up because of the bar and does stand out quite a bit. Could the Hangul letterings be positioned to be even across all the keys, on this set?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: SJHL on Thu, 09 June 2016, 11:37:29
For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?

As another Korean kb enthusiast, I prefer Gungsuh font. However, the set already looks nice so I can go either or.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Thu, 09 June 2016, 12:22:24


For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?

As another Korean kb enthusiast, I prefer Gungsuh font. However, the set already looks nice so I can go either or.

Gungsuh looks really nice also. Korean character printing on the set might be a bit too small for that font though. The size might not do justice for this font. As the previous poster, I'll go either way. I'm just thankful for this GB .
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 09 June 2016, 14:25:15
Thanks everyone for their feedback. It'll really help in the future, and we'll see if we can make adjustments on the current group buy :)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Baddy126 on Thu, 09 June 2016, 15:21:37
Will we be able to get a more accurate pricing on the sets in the interest check? Which ones would cost $70 which ones are $90? Also, do these prices include shipping?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 09 June 2016, 19:08:50
Will we be able to get a more accurate pricing on the sets in the interest check? Which ones would cost $70 which ones are $90? Also, do these prices include shipping?

The MOQ is 100 per legend (or language).

I think we're looking at $75 with a group buy fee of $3 (or 2.9% + $.30 USD) / set.




Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Bob on Thu, 09 June 2016, 21:31:13
My knowledge of fonts is getting a bit rusty but I believe that the font used in the Originative set is Gulim, another one of the default Korean fonts on Windows OS. Aesthetics-wise, I definitely prefer the Originative font due to the sans-serif look. (which is pretty ironic given that all of the design students and faculty loved to hate on the font in school ;D)

It's really interesting to hear your opinion on the fonts Bananaplum. I'm not sure if I could say either way which one my wife would prefer (hoping to make this a surprise gift) I think she'll just be happy to never have to use those horrible stickers that always seem to melt off over time and leave her keyboard disgustingly sticky.

Sherryton, at this stage is there any indication you could give us for which colour combos are likely to be chosen for the Hangul set? Also, that MOQ of 100 sets is scary - how likely is Hangul to even go through?  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 09 June 2016, 22:25:20
For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?

Darn, was looking to join this buy specifically for the thick hangul font keysets :(

I have a black & red hangul set with the thick hangul font that I use quite a lot, probably my most used keyset, and was really hoping to get some more colors (black&blue/black&purple). On the flip-side haven't even mounted the EnjoyPBT hangul ones I got from Shaddovved's buy because I don't like the thin font.

Sadly for me personally, going with the Originative font would make me skip this group buy.

Gungsuh looks really nice also. Korean character printing on the set might be a bit too small for that font though. The size might not do justice for this font. As the previous poster, I'll go either way. I'm just thankful for this GB .

I'm not sure if this is the gungush font but the IMSTO set I use has a thick hangul font that looks quite nice even with the small size.
(http://i.imgur.com/52L7y6Q.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Skydra on Thu, 09 June 2016, 22:39:55
Oh, and if I might make another small request...

On the mockups it doesn't look like the "bar" on the F and J keys affected the position of the Hangul letters, but on the Originative set the "ㄹ" on the F key was slightly pushed up because of the bar and does stand out quite a bit. Could the Hangul letterings be positioned to be even across all the keys, on this set?

I agree with this. I hope that the ㄹ key is align with the other hangul.

Also, I like the aethetic of originative font more than gungsuh. It looks cleaner and more professional to my opinion. Any other fonts option or only two?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 10 June 2016, 01:50:13


For the Korean font, we might have to switch to the one used on existing sets on Originative.

Thoughts, Originative font, Gungush, or either?

Darn, was looking to join this buy specifically for the thick hangul font keysets :(

I have a black & red hangul set with the thick hangul font that I use quite a lot, probably my most used keyset, and was really hoping to get some more colors (black&blue/black&purple). On the flip-side haven't even mounted the EnjoyPBT hangul ones I got from Shaddovved's buy because I don't like the thin font.

Sadly for me personally, going with the Originative font would make me skip this group buy.

Gungsuh looks really nice also. Korean character printing on the set might be a bit too small for that font though. The size might not do justice for this font. As the previous poster, I'll go either way. I'm just thankful for this GB .

I'm not sure if this is the gungush font but the IMSTO set I use has a thick hangul font that looks quite nice even with the small size.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/52L7y6Q.jpg)


Gungsuh or not, that is a really beautiful font in that pic! 😂

 I get the impression that we who are getting the Korean set would like slightly thicker Korean characters, no?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 10 June 2016, 02:27:38
That is Gungsuh.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: bananaplum on Fri, 10 June 2016, 08:27:53
My knowledge of fonts is getting a bit rusty but I believe that the font used in the Originative set is Gulim, another one of the default Korean fonts on Windows OS. Aesthetics-wise, I definitely prefer the Originative font due to the sans-serif look. (which is pretty ironic given that all of the design students and faculty loved to hate on the font in school ;D)

It's really interesting to hear your opinion on the fonts Bananaplum. I'm not sure if I could say either way which one my wife would prefer (hoping to make this a surprise gift) I think she'll just be happy to never have to use those horrible stickers that always seem to melt off over time and leave her keyboard disgustingly sticky


I'm happy to hear that, Bob! And your wife sounds like a very lucky woman... Not that I'm jealous or anything ;D I know about those stickers used them a long time ago, too.. I've been working without Korean keyboards for years (overseas) and I do use some Korean in my work. I went looking for those stickers when I was visiting home but they don't even sell them in stores anymore... I've mostly memorized the positions but for those less used consonants (ㅍ, ㅊ, ㅌ, ㅋ) it'll be nice to have the Hangul keycaps to see.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: bananaplum on Fri, 10 June 2016, 08:33:15
It seems like some people really prefer Gungsuh/thicker fonts. Despite my preference for the sans-serif fonts I really like the colors and overall look of this set so I'm willing to compromise and all for whatever will help us reach that MOQ and make them a reality. Just putting it out there.

Also, Pemdas, your keyboard looks awesome. Loving the colors.

Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: b4d_tR1p on Mon, 13 June 2016, 03:31:01
Awe yiss, submitted :)

+1 for black/black Japanese :rolleyes:

me too I'm in for the Japanese one :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Mon, 13 June 2016, 09:51:10
I would be in if there was an ISO-DE (german) kit.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: reggalicious on Mon, 13 June 2016, 12:45:41
Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 13 June 2016, 14:15:12
Who will manufacture? Tried to find info about and it is not specified in the OP. Says only that Originative will handle the logistics.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 13 June 2016, 16:42:34
Who will manufacture? Tried to find info about and it is not specified in the OP. Says only that Originative will handle the logistics.

The manufacturer is MOD. They are working on the manufacturing of the keycaps and the dye-subbing process. So it's now possible to request new legends. I've been working on this for awhile, and I wanted to make more legends available to the community.

The keycaps are thick PBT. There are many option colors, but we will stick with the one for this group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 14 June 2016, 01:00:15



The manufacturer is MOD. They are working on the manufacturing of the keycaps and the dye-subbing process. So it's now possible to request new legends. I've been working on this for awhile, and I wanted to make more legends available to the community.

The keycaps are thick PBT. There are many option colors, but we will stick with the one for this group buy.

Cool! Thank you for the info. So it is now possible to request SE, NO, DK, FI legends also?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 14 June 2016, 11:32:05



The manufacturer is MOD. They are working on the manufacturing of the keycaps and the dye-subbing process. So it's now possible to request new legends. I've been working on this for awhile, and I wanted to make more legends available to the community.

The keycaps are thick PBT. There are many option colors, but we will stick with the one for this group buy.

Cool! Thank you for the info. So it is now possible to request SE, NO, DK, FI legends also?

Definitely possible, but the MOQ will be real high. The MOQ for Arabic and Japanese are currently at 200 each.
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 14 June 2016, 11:37:23
Definitely possible, but the MOQ will be real high. The MOQ for Arabic and Japanese are currently at 200 each.

200 each colorway or 200 each font?
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Post by: sherryton on Tue, 14 June 2016, 11:45:15
Definitely possible, but the MOQ will be real high. The MOQ for Arabic and Japanese are currently at 200 each.

200 each colorway or 200 each font?

each font/legend. each colorway is much lower. I'll definitely help out with the group buy to make sure we can reach it though.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Sempre on Tue, 14 June 2016, 11:50:34
Wow that's a high moq. Still, i'd really like this so i could try out PBT dysubs other than gateron.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 14 June 2016, 11:57:11
Definitely possible, but the MOQ will be real high. The MOQ for Arabic and Japanese are currently at 200 each.

200 each colorway or 200 each font?

each font/legend. each colorway is much lower. I'll definitely help out with the group buy to make sure we can reach it though.
Hmm, I doubt we'll reach MOQ even if we gather all Nordic GeekHackers.

I'll be down for US and Korean set either way. With a bit of preparation maybe we could accumulate enough high interest in Nordic set to reach MOQ, but that would be in a future GB. If there will be one... Its kind of hard this time of the year with all vacations coming up.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: joey on Tue, 14 June 2016, 12:09:45
Wow that's a high moq. Still, i'd really like this so i could try out PBT dysubs other than gateron.
I think these are still produced by Gateron.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Sempre on Tue, 14 June 2016, 13:11:47
Wow that's a high moq. Still, i'd really like this so i could try out PBT dysubs other than gateron.
I think these are still produced by Gateron.

 sherryton said the manufacturer is "Mod" a few posts above , or thats just the dyesubber
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Anole on Tue, 14 June 2016, 20:44:42
Who manufactures these, and who is doing the dyesubbing on these?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 14 June 2016, 21:32:42
Who manufactures these, and who is doing the dyesubbing on these?

Who will manufacture? Tried to find info about and it is not specified in the OP. Says only that Originative will handle the logistics.

The manufacturer is MOD. They are working on the manufacturing of the keycaps and the dye-subbing process. So it's now possible to request new legends. I've been working on this for awhile, and I wanted to make more legends available to the community.

The keycaps are thick PBT. There are many option colors, but we will stick with the one for this group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Anole on Wed, 15 June 2016, 18:18:49
Another question, if there is a mod-colored tilde key why isn't there a mod-colored forward slash key?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:07:33
Another question, if there is a mod-colored tilde key why isn't there a mod-colored forward slash key?

I'm sure it will change in the final renders.

If not you could just use the mod colored backspace key :p
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 19 June 2016, 17:32:37
Is it known when a preorder option will open up?

I definitely know what I want, and dont want to miss out.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Sun, 19 June 2016, 17:38:11
We got some samples for the Royal TA style on Cyrillic. We can have that option for other caps if people like :)

There's also some samples with the Black/Red Hangul, but people already know how those seem.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Treadstone on Sun, 19 June 2016, 18:59:20
I'm really keeping my fingers crossed for Black/Cyan Cyrillics that have non-colored legends  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 19 June 2016, 19:10:30
We got some samples for the Royal TA style on Cyrillic. We can have that option for other caps if people like :)

There's also some samples with the Black/Red Hangul, but people already know how those seem.
Can you post some pictures of the samples (the Royal TA Cyrillic)?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Suruten on Mon, 20 June 2016, 09:43:07
I might be interested in the Japanese cyan purple (hyperfuse)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 20 June 2016, 14:01:39
We got some samples for the Royal TA style on Cyrillic. We can have that option for other caps if people like :)

There's also some samples with the Black/Red Hangul, but people already know how those seem.
Can you post some pictures of the samples (the Royal TA Cyrillic)?

(http://imgur.com/eRQtntg.png)

I'm hoping to get more samples of the renders from MOZ's mock ups!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: romevi on Mon, 20 June 2016, 14:24:23
We got some samples for the Royal TA style on Cyrillic. We can have that option for other caps if people like :)

There's also some samples with the Black/Red Hangul, but people already know how those seem.
Can you post some pictures of the samples (the Royal TA Cyrillic)?

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/eRQtntg.png)


I'm hoping to get more samples of the renders from MOZ's mock ups!

Hey! Are you the mystery vendor?!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Bob on Mon, 20 June 2016, 23:52:41
I'm hoping to get more samples of the renders from MOZ's mock ups!

The bottom of the keys look nice and sharp and thick! Would you have any Hangul samples yet? Have the colours been decided?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:11:45
In for some hangul and japanese dyesubs :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 23 June 2016, 10:14:46
I really like the black and gold Arabic set, probably in for one :)
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Post by: nathaniel_h on Mon, 27 June 2016, 17:34:42
The red and blue Hangul set looks especially good. I may even buy two.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Willyc277 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 05:22:16
We got some samples for the Royal TA style on Cyrillic. We can have that option for other caps if people like :)

There's also some samples with the Black/Red Hangul, but people already know how those seem.
Can you post some pictures of the samples (the Royal TA Cyrillic)?

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/eRQtntg.png)


I'm hoping to get more samples of the renders from MOZ's mock ups!


Very very interested in this set. Would really like an Irish dye-sub set, but Cyrillic in that colorway would be the next best thing IMO.

Also really digging the black/gold Arabic and black/red Japanese.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 28 June 2016, 05:31:47
Thanks guys! This should be up on Originative soon.

About the Irish set, we are considering it for R2, depending on how R1 goes.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 28 June 2016, 08:21:51
Thanks guys! This should be up on Originative soon.

About the Irish set, we are considering it for R2, depending on how R1 goes.
Define soon ;)

I do not believe interest will be high enough, but throwing it out there anyway. How about Polish and Icelandic?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 28 June 2016, 16:44:36
Thanks guys! This should be up on Originative soon.

About the Irish set, we are considering it for R2, depending on how R1 goes.
Will they be up on originative for sale or pre-order
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: audax989 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 19:55:52
Thanks guys! This should be up on Originative soon.

About the Irish set, we are considering it for R2, depending on how R1 goes.

PURP CYAN JAPANESE CAPS HERE I COME!! :eek:
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Post by: romevi on Wed, 29 June 2016, 00:01:24
Thanks guys! This should be up on Originative soon.

About the Irish set, we are considering it for R2, depending on how R1 goes.

Oh, dang! Now...do I want the GMK set or this...?  :confused:
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Post by: sherryton on Wed, 29 June 2016, 03:45:04
July... :)
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Post by: Data on Wed, 29 June 2016, 11:50:35
July... :)

But that's in TWO DAYS!  :eek:
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Post by: duhhey on Wed, 29 June 2016, 19:04:01
Cant wait!!
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 03 July 2016, 15:35:09
How will this be marked for customs?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: romevi on Sun, 03 July 2016, 15:58:48
How will this be marked for customs?

Like this:
"for customs."
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 03 July 2016, 16:09:47
How will this be marked for customs?

Like this:
"for customs."
U gon get banned
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 03 July 2016, 16:44:48
How will this be marked for customs?

Like this:
"for customs."

Sorry I wasn't born in an English speaking country?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 03 July 2016, 18:44:04
Pretty nice trolling right there, but I'd also like to know how the customs declaration is going to be handled (how did I not think about this earlier?). I'd love if it is done like the shadovved GB where the package was declared in a way that people that people that bought Caps (as long as it werent too many Sets) did not have to pay customs (around $20 in most cases).
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: nyunyu on Mon, 04 July 2016, 10:01:49
Depends of the value.

For example: here in Hungary you don't have to pay VAT, if the value of the package coming from outside of EU is under 45 (~50$)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Bob on Thu, 07 July 2016, 23:58:22
July... :)

Any update on this? Sorry for being impatient; I'm just really eager  :(
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:55:59
How will this be marked for customs?

up to you; just leave it in the notes

July... :)

Any update on this? Sorry for being impatient; I'm just really eager  :(

let me grab an estimated time of arrival. i'll get back to you guys on this.

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Post by: cmd on Sun, 10 July 2016, 08:21:51
nice

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Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: megaforce93 on Wed, 13 July 2016, 10:59:58
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405
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Post by: sherryton on Wed, 13 July 2016, 12:49:31
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405

The Group Buy is up! :)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Data on Wed, 13 July 2016, 14:13:38
Aw snap.  Don't make me choose between this and Skeletor!  MY POOR WALLET!   :'(
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 13 July 2016, 14:17:05
Aw snap.  Don't make me choose between this and Skeletor!  MY POOR WALLET!   :'(

If it makes you feel any better, we're going to do an 'exclusive' Purple and Cyan colorway, Skeletor PBT :)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: Data on Wed, 13 July 2016, 14:21:12
Aw snap.  Don't make me choose between this and Skeletor!  MY POOR WALLET!   :'(

If it makes you feel any better, we're going to do an 'exclusive' Purple and Cyan colorway, Skeletor PBT :)
(http://i.imgur.com/xgDmr2K.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 13 July 2016, 17:04:21
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405

The Group Buy is up! :)
Awsome! One question though. Did the Hangul font change to something slightly thicker as discussed before?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: BurnMyDread on Wed, 13 July 2016, 17:16:30
There is no option in the dropdown for Japanese (Blue & Red) but the picture is there...
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 13 July 2016, 18:16:58
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405

The Group Buy is up! :)
Awsome! One question though. Did the Hangul font change to something slightly thicker as discussed before?

it's slightly thicker

There is no option in the dropdown for Japanese (Blue & Red) but the picture is there...

we have removed this option for now, but we'll add it back if the demand is there. I wanted to give the other Japanese sets a chance lol.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: romevi on Wed, 13 July 2016, 18:37:30
Wait, Skeleton blue and purple for the caps or legends?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 13 July 2016, 21:14:24
Wait, Skeleton blue and purple for the caps or legends?

Why not both?

*Insert Meme*
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: tomboy on Thu, 14 July 2016, 03:02:18
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405

The Group Buy is up! :)
Awsome! One question though. Did the Hangul font change to something slightly thicker as discussed before?

it's slightly thicker

There is no option in the dropdown for Japanese (Blue & Red) but the picture is there...

we have removed this option for now, but we'll add it back if the demand is there. I wanted to give the other Japanese sets a chance lol.

I really wanted the Blue & Red Japanese...
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: redskull on Thu, 14 July 2016, 05:14:43
Wait, Skeleton blue and purple for the caps or legends?

Why not both?

*Insert Meme*

sent you a pm about something.

edit; there's no arabic in gold option at the drop down menu. is it available? the picture is there.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: apolotary on Fri, 15 July 2016, 01:01:22
Any chance to run these sets in black ala Miami Nights?
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 15 July 2016, 13:09:44
Any chance to run these sets in black ala Miami Nights?

Not possible, you can't dye-sub lighter legends on darker PBT plastic. Only option right now is double-shot ABS with secondary legends being pad-printed.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: redskull on Fri, 15 July 2016, 22:26:53
Any chance to run these sets in black ala Miami Nights?

Not possible, you can't dye-sub lighter legends on darker PBT plastic. Only option right now is double-shot ABS with secondary legends being pad-printed.
there's no arabic in gold option at the drop down menu. is it available? the picture is there.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 16 July 2016, 03:22:49
Would be better to ask in the GB thread.
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Post by: stuplarosa on Mon, 18 July 2016, 12:05:58
US International please!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/JrbR2o0.jpg)



Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: PriusProblems on Sat, 06 August 2016, 09:56:26
Would you ever consider producing a dual tone/legend set with ISO UK keys? I cannot find a single non-ANSI-only one, from any manufacturer/seller.
Title: Re: [IC] [Originative] Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets - POLL ADDED
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 06 August 2016, 10:15:49
Sheraton can clarify, from what I know, we are waiting for the manufacturer to have a ISO enter mold ready.