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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:12:11 »
Anyone with a FC660M that wants to test a space bar?  Please PM me or post in the thread.
Going to send sample 6.25u space bars to SpAmRaY and potatowire. :thumb:


== == == == ==


Any chance to get stand alone space bars? I am not really into blank sets.

Not quite sure.  I'll get back to you when Shadovved gets back to me.


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Important question:
Do you think this 6u spacebar will work with the infinity keyboard?

I was looking at the pictures trying to figure out if the stems align.

I don't think they do but I'm not completely sure.

Any ideas?

Do you have an infinity keyboard?  I could send you a 6u space bar so that you can find out. :cool:


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can we get an ETA on the "soon" thing? what colors will be available?? can we like start voting from now what will they be, i think the basic colors or klaxon (whispers hail klaxon), beige and dolch should be available, plus 1 or 2 custom sets, it may sound crazy, but we have the technology, we can do it.

I asked about two-tone sets but they prefer to sell single color sets. :( Things might change but we have to wait for Shadovved to get things moving.


Edit: Got volunteers to verify if the 6.25u spacebar fits on a FC660M.
« Last Edit: Wed, 20 May 2015, 12:11:26 by infiniti »

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 21 May 2015, 17:16:14 »
Okay so apparently Gateron/LCC=Plum which is what Ivan used for his last round of Pitch Black sets, and he had issues with Plum who was acting as a middle party distributor for Gateron. He is going through Gateron directly for the next round of Pitch Black.

Taken from the PBT 104/105 R3 thread:
Oh I know but the wait time would be immense. I will be in the Dark Wave GB for sure regardless.

Ivan is using a different manufacturer for the new round (Gateron) and he said he expects the turnaround time to be much shorter.
It's the same manufacturer actually... just now dealing with them directly instead of through a 'wholesaler' middle company which caused all the dumb delays on this one.

I have AVAILABLE:
3x sets of blanks

So apparently I already have a Gateron set as does everyone else who has a Pitch black, granted only in dark grey. I received my set of Pitch Black today so I will be able to measure the thickness soon. I did a little earlier and got ~1.4mm-1.45mm but didn't really go and measure that many (just 2 keycaps). Initial impressions was that they are nice and thick(seems equal to Vortex off memory) and smooth. The tightness of the keycap on the switch could be a minor problem though(nothing some grease can't fix).

I will go more into depth with my measurements and comparison soon, and I should be getting the keycaps infiniti sent me soon.
« Last Edit: Thu, 21 May 2015, 17:18:23 by KnivesM »
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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 21 May 2015, 18:36:07 »
That sucks that Ivan's last gb took so long and costed so much because of the middle man. Jeez!

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 22 May 2015, 00:28:07 »
Okay I did some measurements on a few keys from some of my thicker keycap sets.
from left to right:Vortex, BSP, Gateron, Leopold



Okay so the simple version:
Average of each; Vortex 1.382mm, BSP 1.292mm, Gateron 1.371mm, Leopold 1.533mm
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BSP
ENTER: Right=1.10mm |Left=1.15mm |Top=1.21mm |Bottom=1.18mm
Tab:Right=1.21mm |Left=1.24mm |Top=1.30mm |Bottom=1.16mm
Esc:Right=1.48mm |Left=1.48mm |Top=1.40mm |Bottom=1.59mm

Leopold
Enter:Right=1.59mm |Left=1.55mm |Top=1.55mm|Bottom=1.50mm
Tab:Right=1.54mm |Left=1.50mm |Top=1.55mm |Bottom=1.48mm
Esc:Right=1.51mm |Left=1.56mm |Top=1.50mm |Bottom=1.57mm

Vortex
Enter: Right=1.32mm |Left=1.27mm |Top=1.50mm |Bottom=1.28mm
Tab: Right=1.36mm |Left=1.34mm |Top=1.49mm |Bottom=1.30mm
Esc: Right=1.44mm |Left=1.40mm |Top=1.50mm |Bottom=1.38mm

Gateron
Enter:Right=1.29mm |Left=1.35mm |Top=1.45mm |Bottom=0.9mm   
Tab: Right=1.40mm |Left=1.41mm |Top=1.38mm |Bottom=1.56mm
Esc: Right=1.42mm |Left=1.42mm |Top=1.45mm |Bottom=1.42mm



And for smoothness I would rank Gateron as the 3rd smoothest of pbt sets I have
1. BSP
2. Leopold
3. Gateron
4. Vortex Thick
5. Vortex Doubleshot
6. Geekkeys thick
7. Tai-Hao Doubleshot
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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 22 May 2015, 22:27:26 »
Thank you for the answer on space bars availability.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 23 May 2015, 09:45:28 »
Okay I did some measurements on a few keys from some of my thicker keycap sets.
from left to right:Vortex, BSP, Gateron, Leopold
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Okay so the simple version:
Average of each; Vortex 1.382mm, BSP 1.292mm, Gateron 1.371mm, Leopold 1.533mm
Raw data
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BSP
ENTER: Right=1.10mm |Left=1.15mm |Top=1.21mm |Bottom=1.18mm
Tab:Right=1.21mm |Left=1.24mm |Top=1.30mm |Bottom=1.16mm
Esc:Right=1.48mm |Left=1.48mm |Top=1.40mm |Bottom=1.59mm

Leopold
Enter:Right=1.59mm |Left=1.55mm |Top=1.55mm|Bottom=1.50mm
Tab:Right=1.54mm |Left=1.50mm |Top=1.55mm |Bottom=1.48mm
Esc:Right=1.51mm |Left=1.56mm |Top=1.50mm |Bottom=1.57mm

Vortex
Enter: Right=1.32mm |Left=1.27mm |Top=1.50mm |Bottom=1.28mm
Tab: Right=1.36mm |Left=1.34mm |Top=1.49mm |Bottom=1.30mm
Esc: Right=1.44mm |Left=1.40mm |Top=1.50mm |Bottom=1.38mm

Gateron
Enter:Right=1.29mm |Left=1.35mm |Top=1.45mm |Bottom=0.9mm   
Tab: Right=1.40mm |Left=1.41mm |Top=1.38mm |Bottom=1.56mm
Esc: Right=1.42mm |Left=1.42mm |Top=1.45mm |Bottom=1.42mm



And for smoothness I would rank Gateron as the 3rd smoothest of pbt sets I have
1. BSP
2. Leopold
3. Gateron
4. Vortex Thick
5. Vortex Doubleshot
6. Geekkeys thick
7. Tai-Hao Doubleshot


Awesome stuff man! :thumb:


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Thank you for the answer on space bars availability.

According to Shadovved, if there is enough interest, orders for space bars only would be possible. ;)

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:46:13 »
Here's a few comparison shot to the beiges of gaterons next to OG doubleshots.








Bad camera I'm sorry infiniti :|

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:52:56 »
Expect within these two weeks for a GB.

Ironing some stuff out first so it'll be smooth later.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 02 June 2015, 15:34:43 »
Expect within these two weeks for a GB.

Ironing some stuff out first so it'll be smooth later.

I hope Gateron is willing to make two-tone sets. I'm also hoping for a surprise, maybe an addon that spices things up, but I'm not sure what that would be. Do you usually mark international packages with a lower value so that people can avoid customs? I'd be able to buy more than one set if you do.

Thanks for the work  ;)

Here's a few comparison shot to the beiges of gaterons next to OG doubleshots.

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Bad camera I'm sorry infiniti :|

Damn, those colors look really tasty. Always wanted a two-tone beige.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 03 June 2015, 04:46:04 »
Here's a few comparison shot to the beiges of gaterons next to OG doubleshots.

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Bad camera I'm sorry infiniti :|

No worried man!  Thanks for the comparison shots! :thumb:


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Expect within these two weeks for a GB.

Ironing some stuff out first so it'll be smooth later.

WOOHOO!!!!

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 03 June 2015, 04:50:01 »
Two-tone sets cost more, and with 4 base colours the combinations might get messy and people dont get what they want.

It's more economical if you just buy two sets and mix yourself issnt it? :D

We hit higher numbers and prices go lower.

Just saying, all my packages are USD 20 gifts. Unless it's an insane amount and I'll adjust accordingly.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 03 June 2015, 05:49:16 »
Yeah, okay. I guess it's not that big of a deal when it comes to blanks. It's more important with dye sub group buys.

Just saying, all my packages are USD 20 gifts. Unless it's an insane amount and I'll adjust accordingly.

Sweet. I'll probably get two sets then.  ;)

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 03 June 2015, 06:01:18 »
ISO white and ill buy two sets.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 16:13:28 »
The sample caps just arrived, thank you very much, infiniti!
At first glance these have a significantly rougher texture than Cherry PBT,  it's maybe a little rougher than Imsto PBT, the color of the milky white one is a tad more yellow than Cherry PBT, which is in turn warmer than the white Imsto PBT . The grey one seems to match grey Cherry PBTs quite well, it is a tiny bit colder, though. Compared to slighty yellowed Cherry ABS keycaps, the milky white seems to be spot on to mine, but that depends on the yellowing grade. The thickness seems to be the same, accurate measurements will follow.

I'll post a more thorough comparison soon!
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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 22:30:47 »
ISO white and ill buy two sets.

No ISO molds apparently.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 12:16:18 »
Massdrop opened a group buy today for these caps
http://www.massdrop.com/buy/blank-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open

Is it any point in having a group buy then?

I might wait until there's ISO enter.
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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 14:27:02 »
Can anyone confirm that those are gaterons on mass drop?

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 14:29:35 »
ISO white and ill buy two sets.

No ISO molds apparently.
That's unfortunate.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 01:23:53 »
Can anyone confirm that those are gaterons on mass drop?

I confirm those are Gateron PBT caps.

Please join their GB. I probably wont run mine. No point.

Screw MD, join my GB :p https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0

With shipping AATW (non-tracked) included, probably need to run at $28/set of single colour.

Should I run my parallel GB?.....

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 02:11:38 »
Massdrop did it again

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 02:15:34 »
Massdrop did it again

Screw it. I'll run a parallel GB then.

There might be countries MD doesn't ship to right?

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 02:19:54 »
Massdrop did it again

Screw it. I'll run a parallel GB then.

There might be countries MD doesn't ship to right?

If the price is the same and I could do it beige/light grey and white, I'd much rather buy from you than MD.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 02:31:38 »
Massdrop did it again

Screw it. I'll run a parallel GB then.

There might be countries MD doesn't ship to right?

If the price is the same and I could do it beige/light grey and white, I'd much rather buy from you than MD.

I cant do their combo colour thingy. I only has single colour :(

But you can buy two :p

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 05:47:49 »
Now for some pictures!

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Here's a few comparison shot to the beiges of gaterons next to OG doubleshots.

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Bad camera I'm sorry infiniti :|

Can someone tell me what color combinations they are? White/beige or white/light grey or beige/light grey?
« Last Edit: Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:00:07 by pokkuhlag »

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:01:56 »
Massdrop did it again

Screw it. I'll run a parallel GB then.

There might be countries MD doesn't ship to right?

If the price is the same and I could do it beige/light grey and white, I'd much rather buy from you than MD.

I cant do their combo colour thingy. I only has single colour :(

But you can buy two
International shipping is cheaper here , I'm guessing.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 08:27:33 »
Massdrop did it again

Screw it. I'll run a parallel GB then.

There might be countries MD doesn't ship to right?

If the price is the same and I could do it beige/light grey and white, I'd much rather buy from you than MD.

I cant do their combo colour thingy. I only has single colour :(

But you can buy two
International shipping is cheaper here , I'm guessing.

Got the GB up and running. $28/set shipping included for single colours, $30/set for two-tone.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 10:06:20 »
Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me? I know my post count is like non existence but I have  been following GB through VNMK admins few times. From the pictures i think gateron produce the stem to fit as many keyboard as it can and it looks like it will fit fc660m too. therefore the only thing missing is an extra left shift.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 10:31:03 »
Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me? I know my post count is like non existence but I have  been following GB through VNMK admins few times. From the pictures i think gateron produce the stem to fit as many keyboard as it can and it looks like it will fit fc660m too. therefore the only thing missing is an extra left shift.
I've been looking on confirmation on this as well.

Some people said the spacebar works with the fc660m. Some said the spacebar doesn't work.

One guy told me the spacebar from this kit will only work with the korean version of the fc660m.

I'm still looking for a solid answer.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #78 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 10:34:56 »
Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me?
From the other thread
Gateron molds in sets of 117, they'll have to take apart another set to add the keys. Not willing.
Maybe you can find someone willing to split up their set and give you a leftover. But, why don't you just buy two single-colored sets for a two-tone?

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #79 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 11:12:48 »
Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me? I know my post count is like non existence but I have  been following GB through VNMK admins few times. From the pictures i think gateron produce the stem to fit as many keyboard as it can and it looks like it will fit fc660m too. therefore the only thing missing is an extra left shift.
I've been looking on confirmation on this as well.

Some people said the spacebar works with the fc660m. Some said the spacebar doesn't work.

One guy told me the spacebar from this kit will only work with the korean version of the fc660m.

I'm still looking for a solid answer.

One of the FC660M owners I sent 6.25u spacebars for testing said that:
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...the space bar doesn't fit right out of the box. The issue is that the stab stems closest to the middle, not needed by the 660M bind on the Cherry stab housings. Wouldn't be an issue with Costar stabs, but I think all 660Ms come with Cherry stabs. I'm pretty sure it will work after some careful trimming of these unnecessary stems...

Basically, you need to trim the parts in shaded in green:



Update from potatowire: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71690.msg1771557#msg1771557

Edit 1: Reuploaded pictures to imgur.
« Last Edit: Sun, 07 June 2015, 21:09:01 by infiniti »

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 11:32:20 »
Thank you so much for your reply. You made my day. I joined the GB with my community and it will be ordered before the deadline. At least I dont have to plant a new stem for this to work. trimming off is easy enough for me :d

Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me? I know my post count is like non existence but I have  been following GB through VNMK admins few times. From the pictures i think gateron produce the stem to fit as many keyboard as it can and it looks like it will fit fc660m too. therefore the only thing missing is an extra left shift.
I've been looking on confirmation on this as well.

Some people said the spacebar works with the fc660m. Some said the spacebar doesn't work.

One guy told me the spacebar from this kit will only work with the korean version of the fc660m.

I'm still looking for a solid answer.

One of the FC660M owners I sent 6.25u spacebars for testing said that:
Quote
...the space bar doesn't fit right out of the box. The issue is that the stab stems closest to the middle, not needed by the 660M bind on the Cherry stab housings. Wouldn't be an issue with Costar stabs, but I think all 660Ms come with Cherry stabs. I'm pretty sure it will work after some careful trimming of these unnecessary stems...

Basically, you need to trim the parts in shaded in green:

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 12:42:26 »
Thank you so much for your reply. You made my day. I joined the GB with my community and it will be ordered before the deadline. At least I dont have to plant a new stem for this to work. trimming off is easy enough for me :d

Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me? I know my post count is like non existence but I have  been following GB through VNMK admins few times. From the pictures i think gateron produce the stem to fit as many keyboard as it can and it looks like it will fit fc660m too. therefore the only thing missing is an extra left shift.
I've been looking on confirmation on this as well.

Some people said the spacebar works with the fc660m. Some said the spacebar doesn't work.

One guy told me the spacebar from this kit will only work with the korean version of the fc660m.

I'm still looking for a solid answer.

One of the FC660M owners I sent 6.25u spacebars for testing said that:
Quote
...the space bar doesn't fit right out of the box. The issue is that the stab stems closest to the middle, not needed by the 660M bind on the Cherry stab housings. Wouldn't be an issue with Costar stabs, but I think all 660Ms come with Cherry stabs. I'm pretty sure it will work after some careful trimming of these unnecessary stems...

Basically, you need to trim the parts in shaded in green:

Show Image


demol3 and Infinity,

First of all, I am sorry for using cell phone pictures and not being able to get my hands on a straightedge. I am choosing to provide timely information rather than waiting until I can spend more time the kids are asleep.

On to the question of the space bar fit on the 660M, I may I have bad news. In my particular case the spacebar does not seem to fit, even after trimming the green areas in Infinity's picture. I trimmed these off and it still sticks. I couldn't figure out why at first, because it really looked like the *inside* stems were the problem. After I compared it more carefully with the stock key, I finally noticed the *middle* stab stems are set the tiniest bit too wide.

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In this admittedly bad picture, you can see based on the seam in my table (a busy dad's ruler) that the stems are a tiny bit off. This minor mismatch could be a manufacturing defect or it could be that the US version is slightly different than the Korean version. For all I know, it's only that my keyboard is newer or older than the molds used to make these keys (I got mine from Massdrop in September 2014).

Hopefully some of the other testers Infinity sent keys to will add their experiences, too.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 21:15:29 »
Thank you so much for your reply. You made my day. I joined the GB with my community and it will be ordered before the deadline. At least I dont have to plant a new stem for this to work. trimming off is easy enough for me :d

Hi, would you be able to throw in few extra left shift for FC660M user like me? I know my post count is like non existence but I have  been following GB through VNMK admins few times. From the pictures i think gateron produce the stem to fit as many keyboard as it can and it looks like it will fit fc660m too. therefore the only thing missing is an extra left shift.
I've been looking on confirmation on this as well.

Some people said the spacebar works with the fc660m. Some said the spacebar doesn't work.

One guy told me the spacebar from this kit will only work with the korean version of the fc660m.

I'm still looking for a solid answer.

One of the FC660M owners I sent 6.25u spacebars for testing said that:
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...the space bar doesn't fit right out of the box. The issue is that the stab stems closest to the middle, not needed by the 660M bind on the Cherry stab housings. Wouldn't be an issue with Costar stabs, but I think all 660Ms come with Cherry stabs. I'm pretty sure it will work after some careful trimming of these unnecessary stems...

Basically, you need to trim the parts in shaded in green:

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demol3 and Infinity,

First of all, I am sorry for using cell phone pictures and not being able to get my hands on a straightedge. I am choosing to provide timely information rather than waiting until I can spend more time the kids are asleep.

On to the question of the space bar fit on the 660M, I may I have bad news. In my particular case the spacebar does not seem to fit, even after trimming the green areas in Infinity's picture. I trimmed these off and it still sticks. I couldn't figure out why at first, because it really looked like the *inside* stems were the problem. After I compared it more carefully with the stock key, I finally noticed the *middle* stab stems are set the tiniest bit too wide.

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In this admittedly bad picture, you can see based on the seam in my table (a busy dad's ruler) that the stems are a tiny bit off. This minor mismatch could be a manufacturing defect or it could be that the US version is slightly different than the Korean version. For all I know, it's only that my keyboard is newer or older than the molds used to make these keys (I got mine from Massdrop in September 2014).

Hopefully some of the other testers Infinity sent keys to will add their experiences, too.

Bummer it doesn't fit.  But thanks for the update! :thumb:

I have two (2) more 6.25u space bars if anyone else would like to take a crack at it.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #83 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 07:13:04 »
If you are willing to send me one, I have a leopold fc600m from china I bought one month ago. It's mx clear so tight fit on the caps, may not be the same as other mx stems.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #84 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 14:57:53 »
Really nice GB!  :thumb: I would buy atleast two sets if there was an ISO enter.

Oops, meant to post in the GB thread.
« Last Edit: Mon, 08 June 2015, 15:01:42 by twk »

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 11 June 2015, 13:58:50 »
I ordered the white, light grey set so that I don't have to change the spacebar (a way to compromise). I would also like to receive one spacebar for testing. Mine is made in Taiwan so it should be the US version you guys are talking about. However I live in Vietnam though, so I don't know if you would be able to send it there. If you need any verification just tell me. Shoot me up in the messages if I am chosen. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:53:44 »
If you are willing to send me one, I have a leopold fc600m from china I bought one month ago. It's mx clear so tight fit on the caps, may not be the same as other mx stems.

I ordered the white, light grey set so that I don't have to change the spacebar (a way to compromise). I would also like to receive one spacebar for testing. Mine is made in Taiwan so it should be the US version you guys are talking about. However I live in Vietnam though, so I don't know if you would be able to send it there. If you need any verification just tell me. Shoot me up in the messages if I am chosen. Thanks in advance.

PMd you two. ;)

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 12 June 2015, 11:03:07 »
If you are willing to send me one, I have a leopold fc600m from china I bought one month ago. It's mx clear so tight fit on the caps, may not be the same as other mx stems.

I ordered the white, light grey set so that I don't have to change the spacebar (a way to compromise). I would also like to receive one spacebar for testing. Mine is made in Taiwan so it should be the US version you guys are talking about. However I live in Vietnam though, so I don't know if you would be able to send it there. If you need any verification just tell me. Shoot me up in the messages if I am chosen. Thanks in advance.

PMd you two. ;)
Would the china and korea version be made the same?

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 14 June 2015, 09:09:35 »
Sorry mine is China made, and I don't have the korean version to compare. However, I don't trust china :p

If you are willing to send me one, I have a leopold fc600m from china I bought one month ago. It's mx clear so tight fit on the caps, may not be the same as other mx stems.

I ordered the white, light grey set so that I don't have to change the spacebar (a way to compromise). I would also like to receive one spacebar for testing. Mine is made in Taiwan so it should be the US version you guys are talking about. However I live in Vietnam though, so I don't know if you would be able to send it there. If you need any verification just tell me. Shoot me up in the messages if I am chosen. Thanks in advance.

PMd you two. ;)
Would the china and korea version be made the same?

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 10:04:33 »
Sorry for the late reply! Here is a comparison of my various Cherry Profile keycaps.
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More on imgur.com: http://imgur.com/a/rBLTo

I think, the closest match of the off-white/beige Gateron keycaps is to the lasered Cherry PBT, the beige matches quite well with the Cherry Doubleshot and PBT, but the off-white is much more yellow. Gateron beige is also a tad colder than the Cherry Dyesub and Lasered PBT. The light grey of the TA keycaps combines nicely with the Gateron white. The texture of the Gateron keycaps is much rougher than Cherry PBT, but not as rough as the IMSTO PBT. The sides of the Gateron and IMSTO PBT keycaps is also textured, the Cherry Keycaps are all smooth on the sides which I prefer. The Gateron keycaps as well as the TA keycaps are a little bit smaller than the others around the bottom. The typing surface appears to be the same.

Make sure to also take a look at the imgur album, there are a few photos with different perspective and lighting. If you need more pictures, e.g. a direct comparison between two keycaps, just shout!
« Last Edit: Sun, 21 June 2015, 10:23:01 by Nuum »

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #90 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 10:11:53 »
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in this thread or in Shadovved's GB thread, but do these caps fit super snug like Ivan's r3 PBT? The gateron F and J keys look identical to Ivan's set so I figured they were all coming from the same place. The spacebar was so tight that it would actually bring up my stabilizers with it!
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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 17:42:08 »
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in this thread or in Shadovved's GB thread, but do these caps fit super snug like Ivan's r3 PBT? The gateron F and J keys look identical to Ivan's set so I figured they were all coming from the same place. The spacebar was so tight that it would actually bring up my stabilizers with it!
Yea these are the same thing, Ivans is just a custom color for his Pitch Black. I've noticed the stems on some are fine while some are to tight, going to look into this more sometime soon.
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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 08:55:10 »
Hey guys,

infiniti sent me a sample space bar to test with my Chinese FC660M (best packaging ever, free mentos inside!), and sadly it does NOT fit. The stem placement is a bit off (by like 1 mm), making it impossible to fit without removing the two "merged stems" and glueing it back.

http://imgur.com/FLpredq,ssOZIQD,ptAToI1,2zSVtHE

The last image is not the best (poor lighting), but you can see the left stem is not flush at all.
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 July 2015, 05:34:12 by Sirakain »

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 07:54:27 »
It looks like Gateron are doing ISO Enter now:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-10070819993.16.gA1cVi&id=520956524246

Would make a sweet addon set for the people who use ISO. Very little cherry profile around, especially PBT.



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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 08:08:29 »
It looks like Gateron are doing ISO Enter now:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-10070819993.16.gA1cVi&id=520956524246

Would make a sweet addon set for the people who use ISO. Very little cherry profile around, especially PBT.

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Imma need dem windowed keys!

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #95 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 08:09:45 »
It looks like Gateron are doing ISO Enter now:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-10070819993.16.gA1cVi&id=520956524246

Would make a sweet addon set for the people who use ISO. Very little cherry profile around, especially PBT.

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New windowed caps too !

Seems to be a 6.5 isn't it?

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #96 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 08:11:07 »
It looks like Gateron are doing ISO Enter now:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-10070819993.16.gA1cVi&id=520956524246

Would make a sweet addon set for the people who use ISO. Very little cherry profile around, especially PBT.

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Probably someone is planning to run a GB for it soon. Wait for it.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #97 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:34:21 »
I'd be down for an ISO set to match the dark grey blanks from Shadovved's GB.
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:56:25 »
Just got my shipping notice, thanks so much Shadovved! Hope you have some nice time off.

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Re: Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (whoa 5MB of pictures)
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 18:59:59 »
It looks like Gateron are doing ISO Enter now:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-10070819993.16.gA1cVi&id=520956524246

Would make a sweet addon set for the people who use ISO. Very little cherry profile around, especially PBT.

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Awesome! Guess I have to get some of this.