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Offline keyjay

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What's like Browns but quieter?
« on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:19:35 »
I have a Leopold Browns 104 from EK, and a Browns 104 from WASD. Love the Browns and can't think of anything I'd do to improve on them EXCEPT that I'd really love to find something that's got a very similar feel and response but that's much quieter -- silent or close to it.

I really don't know if it will be the same not having the auditory feedback, but I want to explore it because when I'm typing while on a business call the noise understandably makes some people feel a little insulted, like I'm not paying attention to them (which I'm not half the time, but that's not the issue here).

I suppose if anything I could handle a very slight reduction in activation force/grams, though I'm not sure about that. I really am very happy with the Browns just the way they are. I type a lot at work and I type fast, and I'm pretty sensitive to how my keyboard feels/responds, so I shouldn't go too far from the Browns in whatever I try since they work so well for me.

I'm only into full-sized keyboards.

I'm thinking of trying a RealForce from EK (will be tough to choose color since I typically prefer black or dark gray in my office, and white would be very different for me in a keyboard, yet they emphasize that the dark gray with its black lettering is really not very easy to read, and as experienced as I am I do still sometimes rely on looking at the lettering for less commonly used keys).

Any comments on the RealForce and any other suggestions at all would be hugely appreciated.

Thanks very much!

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:25:55 »
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:28:38 »
You could try O-rings on your browns, it makes the bottoming out quieter, and it's a cheap and removable option if you don't like it.

Realforce are a very good option, topre feels very nice and is reasonably quiet.

Another option to look at is Matias Quiet Pro, apparently they are very quiet and have a nice feel.
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:31:21 »
Check out youtube for o-ring mod sound comparisons like this one

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:36:31 »
This video in particular helped me out.  It demonstrates the sound of the different cherry keys with and without o-rings using your mouse as comparison:

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:53:04 »
This video in particular helped me out.  It demonstrates the sound of the different cherry keys with and without o-rings using your mouse as comparison:


You can tell that video is a little off, since the difference in sounds when not bottoming should be exactly the same.. but it's not.
The keyboards are not the same distance from the microphone, so the one with o-rings always sounds quieter.
It is helpful though.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 22:55:36 »
This video in particular helped me out.  It demonstrates the sound of the different cherry keys with and without o-rings using your mouse as comparison:


You can tell that video is a little off, since the difference in sounds when not bottoming should be exactly the same.. but it's not.
The keyboards are not the same distance from the microphone, so the one with o-rings always sounds quieter.
It is helpful though.
I see it as them trying to sell a product (even though it's a semi-helpful video :D)

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 23:14:42 »
There are other videos on youtube if you're not sure...It definitely makes a difference..

The exact difference seems to depend on which keyboard you have...I think more so than the actual selection of o-rings WASD has for sale...

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 23:32:21 »
You could also consider getting a Matias Quiet Pro. I haven't tried one yet, but I've yet to hear one bad thing:
http://www.matias.ca/quietpro/pc/

The website has sound samples as well.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 02 December 2012, 23:43:50 »
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 02:21:47 »
I appreciate all the responses so far.

I do have o-rings installed on both of my Browns keyboards. I actually did a considerable amount of research before deciding which ones to use. I definitely prefer the feel and response with them installed. While they do reduce the noise level a meaningful amount, it's still plenty loud when I'm banging away (I always bottom out, by the way) and people on the phone with me can still easily hear me typing away.

The Matias Quite Pro looks -- and sounds -- pretty interesting. Anyone have any idea what kind of switches it uses, or how they're likely to feel/respond relative to Browns?

Thanks again!


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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 03:05:41 »
I came here to make a poop joke, but I won't.

OP needs to **** on the bowl.


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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 04:14:07 »
you need pads then if you bottom out.
Tried both types of pads from EK when I tried a couple types of o-rings, before I went with o-rings. Not much difference in noise reduction with the EK pads compared to o-rings, and I preferred the o-rings overall.

Most of the noise that comes from Cherry Browns is apparently not actually from the bottoming out.

I'm still hoping for more thoughts on an alternate keyboard to consider. Maybe comments on the RealForce from EK? Or further insights into the Matias Quiet Pro? Any others to look into?

Thanks again!



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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 04:40:30 »
People say that the Quiet Pros feel similar to mx browns.
They use dampened matias switches in alps category.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 04:50:31 »
For browns, noise do not really come from the stem, unlike blues. All the noise is from bottoming out, and when the keys pop back up. When talking about noise, almost everyone addresses noise when it hits the bottom, but fails to mention anything about the snap that the keys make when it springs back up. O-rings easily dampens the noise when bottom out, but to help reduce the noise snap up noise, you can use a high viscosity oil to lube the switch. But be prepared to spend over 4 hours for the lube mod, compared to O-ring installation that only takes 10 minutes.

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What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 11:25:30 »
In regards to the Realforce, IMO the black lettering isn't as hard to read as it's made out to be. I do my best to touch type, but when I do have to look down at the board I have no trouble seeing the letters, even at night. The legibility issue is a bit exaggerated if you ask me.

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What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 11:41:39 »
Oh another thing, the Silent tkl version is very quiet. It does have some non-silent keys such as backspace, enter, and a few others which make the traditional Topre "thock" sound. I don't know if I would call those keys quiet... Not sure how they would compare to browns. I believe fullsize silent RF boards are hard to come by.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 13:12:21 »
Matias Quiet Pro uses custom ALPS white switches with internal dampening.  They are EXTREMELY quiet.  The action is a little heavier than a brown keyboard, but it's a lovely feeling/lack of sound.

I appreciate all the responses so far.

I do have o-rings installed on both of my Browns keyboards. I actually did a considerable amount of research before deciding which ones to use. I definitely prefer the feel and response with them installed. While they do reduce the noise level a meaningful amount, it's still plenty loud when I'm banging away (I always bottom out, by the way) and people on the phone with me can still easily hear me typing away.

The Matias Quite Pro looks -- and sounds -- pretty interesting. Anyone have any idea what kind of switches it uses, or how they're likely to feel/respond relative to Browns?

Thanks again!


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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 13:14:07 »
Aside from modding your current board, I've found that both Topre and reds are quieter. Used both at work with no complaints.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 13:23:49 »
Blacks are also really quiet, except for the snap-back sound. But I've found them to be much quieter than reds.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 13:47:42 »
Red with O-ring, or even better, Topre slient version.
All those keyboards will be lost in time....

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 03 December 2012, 16:36:02 »
The QuietPro has gotten excellent reviews across the board. If I weren't stuck to TKL/compact layouts I would have ordered one months ago. I do plan on replacing switches on a compact ALPS board with Matias quiet switches.

Speaking of those switches, here is the background from Edgar Matias himself...
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If you search for QuietPro here you'll find some Geekhack MQP users talking about the keyboard.
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 00:15:50 »
Matias QuitePro apparently has an actuation force of about 65g. That's a lot more than I'm likely to enjoy using. I say that because I had a Unicomp buckling springs keyboard that I found way too firm, and it seems that comes in at about 65-70g. On the other hand, the Cherry Browns that I use and like so much (except for the noise) are about 45g.

Reds seem to also be at around 45g but seem to be not so great for typing according "the majority" of reviews I've seen (though not all, of course).

I'm wondering how the feel of a RealForce TKL Silent with 35/45/55g keys might compare to the Browns... if anyone has any direct experience with that. I'm sure in the end I just have to try it. I would hope the 55g keys aren't that daunting for me after loving the uniform 45g of the Browns.

The only challenge I see with a Topre Silent beyond the 55g keys is that I really need a numpad, and really prefer a black keyboard. EK has RealForce TKL Silent in black and white, but only has numpads in white. It seems like it might be a hunt to get a RealForce numpad in black (which I realize is not silent).

Thanks again! I really appreciate the help!


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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 01:48:31 »
Yeah...at 65g it is something I would want to try out for a bit..although way back when, the AEKII was definitely an old favorite...but it has been so long I'm not sure the added effort will be a good or a bad thing...I don't think it will be a big deal..it isn't like blacks which are still fine but noticeably harder to press down...and browns/reds/topre45 are still a bit on the light side for me even though that is what I use right now...

I have always liked Alps..so it is interesting to see they have basically made a much better version of it...

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 03:39:51 »
If you're going to go with a RealForce, I'd suggest the 45g version. It's not all that loud, I'd say it's quieter than your average rubber dome. If you can find a silenced version, all the better. I'd say they're the closest to browns in feel (although they're quite different, but that's just because Topre and Cherry are totally different beasts).

That being said, Topre switches are sex on your fingers.

PS: I've noticed that the HHKB is noticeably louder than the RealForce. I'm almost positive it has to do with the fact that the metal plate inside the RealForce helps to stabilize the board and minimize the resonance of the enclosure.
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 05:17:05 »
If you're going to go with a RealForce, I'd suggest the 45g version. It's not all that loud, I'd say it's quieter than your average rubber dome. If you can find a silenced version, all the better. I'd say they're the closest to browns in feel (although they're quite different, but that's just because Topre and Cherry are totally different beasts).

That being said, Topre switches are sex on your fingers.

PS: I've noticed that the HHKB is noticeably louder than the RealForce. I'm almost positive it has to do with the fact that the metal plate inside the RealForce helps to stabilize the board and minimize the resonance of the enclosure.

Very persuasive post there, my friend. I'm pretty sure it sealed the deal on my deciding that a RealForce will be my next keyboard to try out.

Now to decide "which one". When you recommend a 45g version (which makes sense to me -- seems like a good place to place priority) and to look for "a silenced version", can you please elaborate? I don't know of anyone making one out-of-the-box that's the "silent" version of Topre that's 45g-uniform.

Ideally, I'd like a RealForce 104 45g-uniform Silent. Since that doesn't exist, the pros and cons I'm weighing right now if I buy a RealForce from EK (who I'm happy to buy from given pleasant past experiences) are:

104UB (104 variable)
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf104&pid=xf11t0
Pro: Full-sized.
Cons: Not silent; not 45g-uniform.

87U All-45g "EK Edition"
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
Pro: 45g-uniform.
Cons: Not silent; no numpad. (Custom "red" lights might distract me, at least until I get used to them.)
Note: Brian of EK suggested to me during a phone consult a few months ago that 45g-uniform was a good choice to give emphasis to given my experience and preferences and overall feedback he’s gotten (though maybe that was influenced by his knowing that soon he'd have a "special EK edition" of a 45g-uniform).

87U Tenkeyless "Silent"
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se170s
Pro: Silent.
Cons: No numpad; not 45g-uniform.

I realize I’m getting into subjective things and it becomes a matter of preference and choice, but since it’s not a small amount of money I’m still hoping for and welcoming any further suggestions or thoughts.

I obviously have to judge the value of a 104 vs Tenkeyless on my own (still not sure where I’ll get a RF numpad in black, but I assume it can be done). And I can more-or-less estimate what 55g keys will be like.

What I have no clue about measuring, and what I could really benefit from feedback on, is a feel for how the noise level of a non-Silent RF might fall between Cherry Browns on the one hand and the RF “Silent” on the other.

Thanks so much, again!



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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 06:09:47 »
HHKB Pro2 Type S fits what you're asking about..

45g uniform silent

Some people love the layout..some don't..most agree it feels great...

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 06:17:17 »
HHKB Pro2 Type S fits what you're asking about..

45g uniform silent

Some people love the layout..some don't..most agree it feels great...

That's intriguing... but there's no way that layout could work for me. For one thing, I constantly drop my right thumb across the Ctrl and Shift keys while moving the arrow keys with my other fingers to select sections of text.

(One would think I could use my left hand for the Ctrl-Shift, but I actually use an X-Keys programmable keypad at my left hand for copy, paste, and a bunch of other things.)

Oh, well. Thanks, though.


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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 12:18:17 »
What do you think of getting a separate keypad? Then you can have a black Topre, and if you're not heavily inputting numbers, can place your mouse close on the right where the keypad would normally be... Overall easier on the wrists and arms, IMHO.
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 04 December 2012, 13:37:00 »
I wouldn't worry about the red lights on the EK 45g 87u. There's only two of them (since num and scroll lock share the same key). And since you'll rarely be typing with either on, it's really a non-issue.

Speaking of which, the num lock on an 87u activates an internal numpad, with jkluio acting as 123456 respectively, and 789 staying the same. m is 0, comma is 00, and period is still period. Quite intuitive, actually.

Plus, if you're dying for a tenkey, the one that EK sells is also 45g uniform. So even though it will eventually be more money than a 104ub, you can still end up with a full size experience in an all 45g setup.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 05 December 2012, 01:15:54 »
Well, I have to first again say thanks so much for all the supportive help. I hugely appreciate it.

I was about to go with the 45g-uniform and a separate numpad. My thinking was that weight matters to me more than anything else, the regular RF is surely considerably more quiet than the Browns (and the little auditory feedback of the regular RF may even be desirable for typing performance), and I can check out whether I like and can work with a Tenkeyless or not. That was my thinking. I was all set to commit.

Then I called Brian at EK, who I've spoken with in the past but who I know from experience is so busy running a small business that it's very, very rare to actually get him on the phone. I took a long-shot and I happened to get him.

The first thing I did was ask him about the fact that the 45g-uniform only comes in black, and how well the numbers on the "fronts" of the Tenkeyless keys used for the built-in numpad will show up for the average person in normal lighting. Being the good man that he is, he cautioned me that for anyone doing relatively frequent numerical input that has to be accurate (credit cards, etc), it's not easy to read them and usually requires memorization, and in fact for most people doing relatively frequent numerical input the built-in numpad array is just not satisfactory -- the position of the keys is awkward and never as efficient as an actual ten-key numpad. He said using the built-in numpad is really for enthusiasts and the like who are not doing much numerical input regarding financial/business info and/or who memorize the number keys.

He also pointed out that most users who do relatively frequent numerical input want to be able to really see the number keys clearly – unless they’re in the financial business doing it all day long they want to double-check their accuracy –and they therefore not only want a dedicated ten-key array but sometimes might find the black numbers on the gray keys to be a bit challenging in moderate lighting conditions.

That all makes absolutely perfect sense to me. And I do relatively frequent numerical input for business.

He also pointed out that the actuation force of the keys on the variable RealForce is mainly 45g, with the edge letters at 35g and "only the Escape key" at 55g. So, theoretically, that would be the same as or an overall slight move to lighter force than what I'm used to with the Browns, though he said that in reality because of the travel path of the Browns and of the Topres a Brown 45g at the end of the day probably takes a bit less force than a Topre 45g.

He also said that the "Silent" RealForce isn't really silent as such, but that it has substantially less noise than the regular RealForce on the upward return of the key -- which he said isn't really that much of a noticeable difference until you get to about 50 wpm, which he rightfully pointed out isn't something most people will exceed when typing while talking on the phone (meaning the Silent for being on the phone isn't that necessary compared to the already pretty quiet noise level of the regular RealForce – which will still be audible to callers if the user is banging away at the keys).

His bottom-line opinion was that Browns are still top-notch (and a favorite of his personally), yet that I should absolutely treat myself to a RealForce as a present because the typing experience is just that sweet and there's nothing like it, even with respect to the build quality of the RealForce boards. He pointed out, though, of course, that at the end of the day, whether I like Browns or Topre better will be my own personal choice, which he put at "50-50".

At which point a 45g-uniform with a separate numpad vs a full-sized variable doesn't seem to be all that different -- except that with a variable I can consider a white keyboard with the high-contrast black lettering.

FWIW...



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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 05 December 2012, 09:50:42 »
Those are all very good points. Whichever you decide, (IMO) you can't go wrong with a Topre. The typing experience really is first-rate.

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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 05 December 2012, 17:57:33 »
Since you have dampers already, as WhiteFireDragon said, a lot of noise is from popping back up, you might be surprised how much. Try pressing down and waiting a second before you release, unfortunately there is little you can to do stop that, at least as far as I have found.

Luckily, there is still things you can do to quiet your keyboard. Currently, the hollow chassis is acting as an echo chamber, if you hold the keyboard tightly in one hand, while typing with the other, you will hear a big difference in sound (depending on keyboard, on my Race the difference is very pronounced). While a more solid case such as aluminum would help, particularly if you mounted the circuit board on o-rings, this is pretty radical option, not to mention, expensive and impractical.

A more practical approach is to see how much room is underneath the board inside your case. If you have some room, you could line this with sound proofing material such as rubber or foam, or even coat the inside with rubberized undercoating from the local auto parts store. Even strips of duct tape, cardboard or even strips of carpet could help lower the sound levels.

Another place you may need to dampen better is the contact between the case and your desk. Depending on material, it too may be enhancing the sound.

While some of this is untested, most of this stuff can be done for far less money than investing in a new keyboard that you may or may not like.
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Re: What's like Browns but quieter?
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 05 December 2012, 18:02:50 »
Since you have dampers already, as WhiteFireDragon said, a lot of noise is from popping back up, you might be surprised how much. Try pressing down and waiting a second before you release, unfortunately there is little you can to do stop that, at least as far as I have found.

Luckily, there is still things you can do to quiet your keyboard. Currently, the hollow chassis is acting as an echo chamber, if you hold the keyboard tightly in one hand, while typing with the other, you will hear a big difference in sound (depending on keyboard, on my Race the difference is very pronounced). While a more solid case such as aluminum would help, particularly if you mounted the circuit board on o-rings, this is pretty radical option, not to mention, expensive and impractical.

A more practical approach is to see how much room is underneath the board inside your case. If you have some room, you could line this with sound proofing material such as rubber or foam, or even coat the inside with rubberized undercoating from the local auto parts store. Even strips of duct tape, cardboard or even strips of carpet could help lower the sound levels.

Another place you may need to dampen better is the contact between the case and your desk. Depending on material, it too may be enhancing the sound.

While some of this is untested, most of this stuff can be done for far less money than investing in a new keyboard that you may or may not like.

Thanks. I appreciate the advice.

As it is, I already have it on a thin sheet of expensive silicon, and have a length of foam behind it. I've tried a little foam underneath but it wasn't very helpful.

To go further and take the board apart is not economical for me due to the fact that I run a small business and my time would cost me more than even an expensive board to try out.