Author Topic: Keyboard for BF! Your inputs needed!!! (Read 12421 times)

DrHubblePhD · « **Reply #50 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:59:59 »

Quote from: magically on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:54:08

Quote from: drhubblephd on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:10:57
GON makes some sweet stuff, pricey though if you let him build it. If you want to save some time and money you could just order all the parts (I'm sure GON or someone else could help you compile the parts) and have someone just build it for you.

yes thats what i was thinking too！！！

so i bought the housing already still need PCb and a little confused as to whether I need to buy diodes and resistors and bolts

You will need the through hole diodes he sells as well as SMD resistors and both SMD and in switch through hole LEDs.

magically · « **Reply #51 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:14:09 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:59:46

Quote from: magically on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:54:08
Quote from: drhubblephd on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:10:57
GON makes some sweet stuff, pricey though if you let him build it. If you want to save some time and money you could just order all the parts (I'm sure GON or someone else could help you compile the parts) and have someone just build it for you.

yes thats what i was thinking too！！！

so i bought the housing already still need PCb and a little confused as to whether I need to buy diodes and resistors and bolts

You said you talked to GON, yeah?

Ask him, he's nice.

If you want LEDs and switches, you'll need diodes and resistors and things like that. Ask GON about which ones to get.

I just realised it just now... Before our conversation was mainly about lead time, which colour and engraving lol .. I will ask him tmr ... It's 2 am in korea ...

Btw just realise it's so adorable u name ur keyboards so curious what cersei looks like

Puddsy · « **Reply #52 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:18:26 »

Quote from: magically on Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:14:09

Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:59:46
Quote from: magically on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:54:08
Quote from: drhubblephd on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:10:57
GON makes some sweet stuff, pricey though if you let him build it. If you want to save some time and money you could just order all the parts (I'm sure GON or someone else could help you compile the parts) and have someone just build it for you.

yes thats what i was thinking too！！！

so i bought the housing already still need PCb and a little confused as to whether I need to buy diodes and resistors and bolts

You said you talked to GON, yeah?

Ask him, he's nice.

If you want LEDs and switches, you'll need diodes and resistors and things like that. Ask GON about which ones to get.

I just realised it just now... Before our conversation was mainly about lead time, which colour and engraving lol .. I will ask him tmr ... It's 2 am in korea ...

Btw just realise it's so adorable u name ur keyboards so curious what cersei looks like

You're lucky I'm still home.

I'll PM you pictures so that this thread can stay on topic.

swill · « **Reply #53 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:55:47 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:53:23

Quote from: magically on Mon, 22 December 2014, 10:48:06
i do like the cherry replica but im looking for red..mm whats this gmk set that u said is coming up？

glad to meet a fellow dota player

It's called "Klaxon" or "Red Alert"

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64679.0

This is the interest check for a GMK version, but you can get a signature plastics version in the classifieds.

Check out the rules for the classifieds here.

If you plan to buy a GMK set which is still in IC, expect to wait for over 6 months to get the caps.

Buying from a GB will take some time. If the GB is currently running it will take 3-4 months. Just wanted to give you an idea of what to expect.

wyatt8740 · « **Reply #54 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:58:38 »

why aren't clicky boards good for gaming? I play minecraft on my model M's all the time.

And on the subject of keybinds: The numpad is a great place for hotkeys to go.

katushkin · « **Reply #55 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 12:11:50 »

Quote from: wyatt8740 on Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:58:38

why aren't clicky boards good for gaming? I play minecraft on my model M's all the time.

Playing minecraft is different to playing MOBAs/FPSs to a high level. Professional esports players need to have lightning fast reactions, and a lot of top tier players swear by linear switches, especially reds.

Quote from: wyatt8740 on Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:58:38

And on the subject of keybinds: The numpad is a great place for hotkeys to go.

Again, not really playing Dota, as the default keybinds are QWER and ZXCVBN, plus you are on your mouse all the time.

wyatt8740 · « **Reply #56 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 12:13:34 »

Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 22 December 2014, 12:11:50

Playing minecraft is different to playing MOBAs/FPSs to a high level. Professional esports players need to have lightning fast reactions, and a lot of top tier players swear by linear switches, especially reds.

Okay, but I play a lot of Star Wars battlefront (you can still get multiplayer over tunngle) and have had no issues with my M's. In fact I prefer them to my infinitely less tactile AT101W.

And why are the reds and blacks faster?
(I've never had any MX switches, so please bear with me. Only got two M's and the dell which has ALPS blacks)

Puddsy · « **Reply #57 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 12:39:32 »

Quote from: wyatt8740 on Mon, 22 December 2014, 12:13:34

Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 22 December 2014, 12:11:50
Playing minecraft is different to playing MOBAs/FPSs to a high level. Professional esports players need to have lightning fast reactions, and a lot of top tier players swear by linear switches, especially reds.
Okay, but I play a lot of Star Wars battlefront (you can still get multiplayer over tunngle) and have had no issues with my M's. In fact I prefer them to my infinitely less tactile AT101W.

And why are the reds and blacks faster?
(I've never had any MX switches, so please bear with me. Only got two M's and the dell which has ALPS blacks)

Linear MX switches are especially easy to doubletap. Non-linear ones are still pretty easy, but doubletapping is harder to do quickly.

For example, in something like TF2, where doubletapping is vital to avoid damage, a model M won't help you. Something with MX reds/blacks, however, will.

In DotA 2, there's a lot of fast inputs required, and MX blues will let you know that they've actuated. For the same reason, this is why SC2 players love blues as much as they do.

wyatt8740 · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 22 December 2014, 15:26:10 »

Alright, I think I can see that.

magically · « **Reply #59 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 05:46:08 »

Guys ... I'm stuck with this dilemma the whole day ... black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver

swill · « **Reply #60 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:29:18 »

Quote from: magically on Tue, 23 December 2014, 05:46:08

Guys ... I'm stuck with this dilemma the whole day ... black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver

For the case?

magically · « **Reply #61 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:44:52 »

Quote from: swill on Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:29:18

Quote from: magically on Tue, 23 December 2014, 05:46:08
Guys ... I'm stuck with this dilemma the whole day ... black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver black or silver
For the case?

yup... coz i'm having second thoughts on the clockwerk theme... i'm afraid that it wouldn't look good ... so now i'm just thinking silver or black case or red... lol

DrHubblePhD · « **Reply #62 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:55:55 »

Black goes with any keyset, that's my vote!

swill · « **Reply #63 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 10:43:10 »

Quote from: drhubblephd on Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:55:55

Black goes with any keyset, that's my vote!

True, but then it could easily be mistaken for any stock plastic case by just looking at it. I vote silver. It will still look nice with different caps.

Lu_e · « **Reply #64 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 10:59:43 »

Black

Daniel Beardsmore · « **Reply #65 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:17:27 »

Dark silver maybe?

DrHubblePhD · « **Reply #66 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:27:43 »

Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:17:27

Dark silver maybe?

The hard coat color he offers is a dark grey that is very nice!

swill · « **Reply #67 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:53:01 »

Quote from: drhubblephd on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:27:43

Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:17:27
Dark silver maybe?

The hard coat color he offers is a dark grey that is very nice!

Is almost like a gunmetal? A dark grey would look really good.

DrHubblePhD · « **Reply #68 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:56:47 »

Quote from: swill on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:53:01

Quote from: drhubblephd on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:27:43
Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:17:27
Dark silver maybe?

The hard coat color he offers is a dark grey that is very nice!

Is almost like a gunmetal? A dark grey would look really good.

my GON skinny:

swill · « **Reply #69 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:58:34 »

Quote from: drhubblephd on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:56:47

Quote from: swill on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:53:01

Quote from: drhubblephd on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:27:43
Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Tue, 23 December 2014, 15:17:27
Dark silver maybe?

The hard coat color he offers is a dark grey that is very nice!

Is almost like a gunmetal? A dark grey would look really good.

my GON skinny:

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Nice. That is a pretty good looking option. Pretty much any set of caps will look good on it too.

DrHubblePhD · « **Reply #70 on:** Tue, 23 December 2014, 16:03:58 »

Yeah especially if this person plans on carrying the board around because the hard coating is really scratch resistant!

magically · « **Reply #71 on:** Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:46:58 »

Mmmm they are starting to sell these caps in a Chinese QQ group for 185USD a set, worth buying or no?

swill · « **Reply #72 on:** Tue, 13 January 2015, 09:27:07 »

Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:46:58

Mmmm they are starting to sell these caps in a Chinese QQ group for 185USD a set, worth buying or no?

I have never spent 185USD on a set of keycaps and I don't plan to. That seems very expensive. They do appear to be GMK though, so they are the best quality keycaps you can buy, so at least that is good.

As a comparison. Ivan ran a GMK Dolch GB and the (very similar) base set was 110USD. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1338971#msg1338971

Keep in mind that GMK GBs do not come up very often, but I know that BunnyLake (https://ctrlalt.io/) is planning to run some GMK buys soon, so you may want to wait for that...

Thats my two cents anyway...

hwood34 · « **Reply #73 on:** Tue, 13 January 2015, 09:42:16 »

Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:46:58

Mmmm they are starting to sell these caps in a Chinese QQ group for 185USD a set, worth buying or no?

Why are they so expensive? For that kit I don't think I've ever seen a GMK set higher than around $100

magically · « **Reply #74 on:** Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:39:15 »

Quote from: swill on Tue, 13 January 2015, 09:27:07

Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:46:58
Mmmm they are starting to sell these caps in a Chinese QQ group for 185USD a set, worth buying or no?

I have never spent 185USD on a set of keycaps and I don't plan to. That seems very expensive. They do appear to be GMK though, so they are the best quality keycaps you can buy, so at least that is good.

As a comparison. Ivan ran a GMK Dolch GB and the (very similar) base set was 110USD. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1338971#msg1338971

Keep in mind that GMK GBs do not come up very often, but I know that BunnyLake (https://ctrlalt.io/) is planning to run some GMK buys soon, so you may want to wait for that...

Thats my two cents anyway...

Yeah, I thought it was really expensive too.

Apparently this wasn't a group buy, some guy ordered 500 sets using his own money. He said it costed him 89EUROs per set and then there's a 20% tax for goods shipped into China and then the rest is profit for himself I guess.

swill · « **Reply #75 on:** Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:44:20 »

Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:39:15

Quote from: swill on Tue, 13 January 2015, 09:27:07
Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:46:58
Mmmm they are starting to sell these caps in a Chinese QQ group for 185USD a set, worth buying or no?

I have never spent 185USD on a set of keycaps and I don't plan to. That seems very expensive. They do appear to be GMK though, so they are the best quality keycaps you can buy, so at least that is good.

As a comparison. Ivan ran a GMK Dolch GB and the (very similar) base set was 110USD. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1338971#msg1338971

Keep in mind that GMK GBs do not come up very often, but I know that BunnyLake (https://ctrlalt.io/) is planning to run some GMK buys soon, so you may want to wait for that...

Thats my two cents anyway...

Yeah, I thought it was really expensive too.

Apparently this wasn't a group buy, some guy ordered 500 sets using his own money. He said it costed him 89EUROs per set and then there's a 20% tax for goods shipped into China and then the rest is profit for himself I guess.

BunnyLake should have both of his GBs live by the end of the week, so I would recommend checking them when they are up to see if they are to your taste.

magically · « **Reply #76 on:** Tue, 13 January 2015, 11:26:09 »

Quote from: swill on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:44:20

Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:39:15
Quote from: swill on Tue, 13 January 2015, 09:27:07
Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:46:58
Mmmm they are starting to sell these caps in a Chinese QQ group for 185USD a set, worth buying or no?

I have never spent 185USD on a set of keycaps and I don't plan to. That seems very expensive. They do appear to be GMK though, so they are the best quality keycaps you can buy, so at least that is good.

As a comparison. Ivan ran a GMK Dolch GB and the (very similar) base set was 110USD. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1338971#msg1338971

Keep in mind that GMK GBs do not come up very often, but I know that BunnyLake (https://ctrlalt.io/) is planning to run some GMK buys soon, so you may want to wait for that...

Thats my two cents anyway...

Yeah, I thought it was really expensive too.

Apparently this wasn't a group buy, some guy ordered 500 sets using his own money. He said it costed him 89EUROs per set and then there's a 20% tax for goods shipped into China and then the rest is profit for himself I guess.
BunnyLake should have both of his GBs live by the end of the week, so I would recommend checking them when they are up to see if they are to your taste.

the dolch set is so pretty <3 i wonder if anyone would sell theirs on classifieds... i'm also in love with a similar one with led windows on the f row ... but pretty sure i can't find those anywhere.

looking forward to see what bunnylake has to offer in his GB but i'm kind of weary about GBs since I heard they take ages (6months?) - -.

magically · « **Reply #77 on:** Tue, 20 January 2015, 02:17:10 »

So happy I got my Clockwerk cap from Shapeways today! It's so beautiful! Tons of pics incoming...

Oobly · « **Reply #78 on:** Tue, 20 January 2015, 07:54:39 »

Quote from: magically on Tue, 13 January 2015, 11:26:09

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the dolch set is so pretty <3 i wonder if anyone would sell theirs on classifieds... i'm also in love with a similar one with led windows on the f row ... but pretty sure i can't find those anywhere.

looking forward to see what bunnylake has to offer in his GB but i'm kind of weary about GBs since I heard they take ages (6months?) - -.

Zeal has some sets of GMK Dolch for sale on his site: http://zealpc.net/collections/keycap-sets/products/dolch

It's marked up a bit from the Group Buy prices, but if you don't find someone willing to sell a set, that's a good option.

Group Buys can take time, sometimes a LONG time (Ivan's Pitch Black PBT one for example has taken more than a year and a couple of 7bit's ones also), but some are pretty short (especially the PMK ones, where you have about a month to order and usually the caps arrive about a month after the orders close).

GMK Group Buys don't happen that often, though, and usually the end product is well worth the wait.

And at least the production part of the GB with GMK buys goes pretty quickly unless you catch them during summer holiday time. Ivan is running one right now (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66364.0).

BunnyLake will be running a GMK Group Buy for the Hyperfuse set, but I don't know quite when. Here is a pic of the Signature Plastics DCS version:

Huxley2500 · « **Reply #79 on:** Tue, 20 January 2015, 10:54:50 »

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So happy I got my Clockwerk cap from Shapeways today! It's so beautiful! Tons of pics incoming...
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Author Topic: Keyboard for BF! Your inputs needed!!! (Read 12421 times)