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Offline jonathanyu

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Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 20:24:07 »
87u 55g or 45g?
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 20:26:38 »
Not even a contest if you're going with a realforce over HHKB. 55g.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 20:34:05 »
55g topre is godly
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:01:18 »
55g Jonny Boy...

If it's a little heavy at first just stick with it for a bit while you put your fingers through training camp. Your hands will be stronger and you're health will improve all around. Best part is that you'll be able to make fun of people who still use MX.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:01:46 »
HHKB! :cool:

But if it's really gotta be an 87u then 55g.

I must say that I'm not a huge fan of any topre switch I've tried while stock. However, when lubed and silenced, 45g HHKB and 55g RF are both some of the best I've tried. I do think HHKB feels nicer than RF though.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:16:08 »
Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:01:46
HHKB! :cool:

But if it's really gotta be an 87u then 55g.

I must say that I'm not a huge fan of any topre switch I've tried while stock. However, when lubed and silenced, 45g HHKB and 55g RF are both some of the best I've tried. I do think HHKB feels nicer than RF though.

REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS THREAD YOU MX PLEP!!!

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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:19:52 »
Quote from: digi on Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:16:08
REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS THREAD YOU MX PLEP!!!

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MX5000 still > HHKB

SUCK IT. WE ARE THE PATRICIANS.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:22:02 »
Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:19:52
Quote from: digi on Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:16:08
REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS THREAD YOU MX PLEP!!!

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MX5000 still > HHKB

SUCK IT. WE ARE THE PATRICIANS.

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This is your MX 5000 BTW - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126176
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:38:33 »
ok, will get the 87U55g then.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 22:05:05 »
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:42:07 »
This thread also helped me pick mine.

I wanted it in beige anyway, and the 45g never seems to come in beige.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:47:28 »
Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:42:07
This thread also helped me pick mine.

I wanted it in beige anyway, and the 45g never seems to come in beige.

i'm actually about to trade my 55g domes from my beige RF87U for 45g's because i couldn't find a 45g model

i've been told i'm a fool for doing so
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:53:51 »
Quote from: nmur on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:47:28
Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:42:07
This thread also helped me pick mine.

I wanted it in beige anyway, and the 45g never seems to come in beige.

i'm actually about to trade my 55g domes from my beige RF87U for 45g's because i couldn't find a 45g model

i've been told i'm a fool for doing so
Don't listen to them
they just got a manly hands
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:58:27 »
Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:53:51
Quote from: nmur on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:47:28
Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:42:07
This thread also helped me pick mine.

I wanted it in beige anyway, and the 45g never seems to come in beige.

i'm actually about to trade my 55g domes from my beige RF87U for 45g's because i couldn't find a 45g model

i've been told i'm a fool for doing so
Don't listen to them
they just got a manly hands

i can bench 100kg but 55g topre is too heavy for my delicate fingers
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 06:04:51 »
+1 for 55g - that's what I'd choose!
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 06:34:55 »
Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:38:33
ok, will get the 87U55g then.

Good choice. Like others said, when you are ready to try 45g you are definitely best off getting a HHKB. Be nice to have both.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32 »
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29 »
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:09:18 »
Quote from: mind_funeral on Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?

Yes, depending upon location and which finger and reach is suggested.
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Quote from: specw4r on Sun, 06 March 2016, 05:30:12
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 14:00:44 »
Quote from: mind_funeral on Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?

Yes. The keys under your weakest fingers (eg. pinky) require less force. It's supposed to be an advantage for touch typists(which I'm not), though I really can't tell any difference when typing. All in all, variable weighted feels lighter than 45g(even though some keys are 45g).
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 15:36:43 »
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.


+1 here. I still own both and prefer the variable to the 55g. The 55g is still better than any MX board I've owned / tried, but a bit too stiff for my typing style.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 15:41:39 »
Quote from: mind_funeral on Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?

Variable weight Topre has 35, 45 and 55g keys. Most are 45, I think Esc and functions are 55g. I like the 45g ones the best.

What I don't like about Realforces is that they have a top lip that adds approximately one row worth of size to the keyboard and the color options are simply oldschool greyish white and black with nearly unreadable labels. HHKB doesn't have enough keys to have a nice set of arrows in the bottom corner like you can get on a Pok3r or fully programmable keyboards. As much as I love Topre switches, I don't really like the keyboard options on the market that much. The closest I like is probably the Leopold FC660C, but even that could use just a few more keys and a fully programmable controller like you can get on the HHKB.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 21:54:45 »
Quote from: mind_funeral on Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?

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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 22:12:57 »
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 28 April 2016, 21:54:45
Quote from: mind_funeral on Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?

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weird that they didn't make windows keys heavier as to not accidentally hit them.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 29 April 2016, 00:43:06 »
Quote from: demik on Thu, 28 April 2016, 22:12:57
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 28 April 2016, 21:54:45
Quote from: mind_funeral on Thu, 28 April 2016, 10:08:29
Quote from: 1391406 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:56:32
It's all preference and mine is variable weighted. I don't like 55g Topre.

What is variable weighted mean?  Different keys are different weights or?

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weird that they didn't make windows keys heavier as to not accidentally hit them.

Not sure why that would matter unless you're gaming. In any case, the 87U has dip switches on the back that can disable the Windows key if need be.
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Re: Which realforce should I get for my first topre
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 29 April 2016, 08:16:21 »
Out of the box the 55g's were somekind of too heavy for me...wasn't really impressed. After cleaning&lubing (which I describe as becoming as one with the cup rubber) now she's the board I've expected her to be in the first place...smooth, snappy thocking artillery!  :thumb:
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