Can the switch be lubricated with yellow machine oil?

[Efe34]

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I have E yooso z686 . But I can't access oils like krytox. For this reason, is it okay if I connect the switches with machine oil in yellow liquid form? If not, what kind of oil can I lubricate? Thanks.

[Leslieann]

Does it say safe for plastics? If not, assume no.

Sounds like this is the same as sewing machine oil which is actually just mineral oil.
While I've used it on some plastics before and not had any issue your mileage may vary and it's going to dry out over time regardless, so I wouldn't.

If you search up the krytox numbers without the name you may be able to get some through Amazon. For stab wires, look for dielectric grease (in silicone), most people use the stuff from Superlube which is easy to find.

[Efe34]

Can I use Vaseline? And that's the oil I'm talking about. https://www.hepsiburada.com/siner-makina-yai-50ml-p-HBCV00000ZMUWG?magaza=Erdemir+Yap%c4%b1&url_src=and-product-detail I've only used it for one switch and have had no issues. But it would be better if there is a more effective product.  For example, would vaseline be more effective?

[Nuap]

My brother PLEASE just get some Krytox.

[Leslieann]

Can I use Vaseline? And that's the oil I'm talking about. https://www.hepsiburada.com/siner-makina-yai-50ml-p-HBCV00000ZMUWG?magaza=Erdemir+Yap%c4%b1&url_src=and-product-detail I've only used it for one switch and have had no issues. But it would be better if there is a more effective product.  For example, would vaseline be more effective?

That's mineral oil and depending on how it was made may or may not have petroleum in it. Some is safe, some is not, but it always dries out over time.

As for Vaseline, anything petroleum based (and Vaseline is) will damage the plastic in the switch.

If you can't mail order try an RC hobby shop (radio control), they have lots of lubes that are plastic compatible. You want a thicker grease (differential lube) for stab wires (metal to plastic), and very thin grease or thick oil for the switches as well as plastic on plastic in the stabs. I've used silicone shock oil in the past but some thin gear grease would probably work as well. Wouldn't be even surprising if they have something similar to krytox.

Like I said, if it doesn't specifically say "safe for plastics", assume it's not.

[Efe34]

Thank you very much for your help. This oil has been used in Rc vehicles. I think you are talking about these oils. https://www.hepsiburada.com/skf-lgmt-3-0-125-lityum-cok-amacli-tup-gres-yagi-rulman-gresi-125-gr-pm-HBC000002P0IM. Actually there is Krytox in my country but 4 times more expensive. I contacted the seller. He said it's not petroleum based.

[Efe34]

My brother PLEASE just get some Krytox.

They want half of the price I bought the keyboard for oil in my country bro.

[Leslieann]

My brother PLEASE just get some Krytox.

You don't need lab grease for a keyboard.

https://www.hepsiburada.com/skf-lgmt-3-0-125-lityum-cok-amacli-tup-gres-yagi-rulman-gresi-125-gr-pm-HBC000002P0IM.

Some lithium based grease is fine, some contains petroleum.

[Efe34]

My brother PLEASE just get some Krytox.

You don't need lab grease for a keyboard.

https://www.hepsiburada.com/skf-lgmt-3-0-125-lityum-cok-amacli-tup-gres-yagi-rulman-gresi-125-gr-pm-HBC000002P0IM.

Some lithium based grease is fine, some contains petroleum.

When I asked, the seller said it can be used with plastic. Many people have used this product on the plastic parts of their bikes and engines. The seller said it was cream in color. It is also used for bearings. What do you think I should do?

[jcoffin1981]

Mineral oil probably works fairly well.  It is also very inexpensive.  For longetivity a grease is better.  There may also be other ingredients in that oil you were speaking of that damage plastic or break down over time.  An oil type lubricant can be used for the springs, but grease is better for the switches. 

[Leslieann]

When I asked, the seller said it can be used with plastic. Many people have used this product on the plastic parts of their bikes and engines. The seller said it was cream in color. It is also used for bearings. What do you think I should do?

Sellers lie and what would you do if they did?
By the time you find out they may no longer be listed and the cost to go after them would easily exceed the cost of the switches.

I never trust a seller, they don't care, they just want your money and if it was truly safe, why wouldn't they advertise it as such.

Mineral oil probably works fairly well. 

I thought so too and I have used it on some switches with success.*

And I would have agreed with you a week ago had I not learned that mineral oil is made in many ways, some with petroleum and some without so unless you know how, or they state it's safe, you should assume it's not safe for plastics.

*What I used was stated to be safe.

[Efe34]

When I asked, the seller said it can be used with plastic. Many people have used this product on the plastic parts of their bikes and engines. The seller said it was cream in color. It is also used for bearings. What do you think I should do?

Sellers lie and what would you do if they did?
By the time you find out they may no longer be listed and the cost to go after them would easily exceed the cost of the switches.

I never trust a seller, they don't care, they just want your money and if it was truly safe, why wouldn't they advertise it as such.

Mineral oil probably works fairly well. 

I thought so too and I have used it on some switches with success.*

And I would have agreed with you a week ago had I not learned that mineral oil is made in many ways, some with petroleum and some without so unless you know how, or they state it's safe, you should assume it's not safe for plastics.

*What I used was stated to be safe.

I guess instead of causing such a headache, I'll get krytox when I have a budget. Otherwise it will be very confusing.

[chyros]

Can I use Vaseline? And that's the oil I'm talking about. https://www.hepsiburada.com/siner-makina-yai-50ml-p-HBCV00000ZMUWG?magaza=Erdemir+Yap%c4%b1&url_src=and-product-detail I've only used it for one switch and have had no issues. But it would be better if there is a more effective product.  For example, would vaseline be more effective?

That's mineral oil and depending on how it was made may or may not have petroleum in it. Some is safe, some is not, but it always dries out over time.

As for Vaseline, anything petroleum based (and Vaseline is) will damage the plastic in the switch.

Eh, this isn't very accurate tbh. Vaseline definitely isn't mineral oil, it's often a dewax of Short, and "petroleum-based" is not a great term and technically Krytox is derived from petroleum as well (as is half of the entire chemical industry). The plastics used for switches are also petroleum-derived themselves.

[Efe34]

Can I use Vaseline? And that's the oil I'm talking about. https://www.hepsiburada.com/siner-makina-yai-50ml-p-HBCV00000ZMUWG?magaza=Erdemir+Yap%c4%b1&url_src=and-product-detail I've only used it for one switch and have had no issues. But it would be better if there is a more effective product.  For example, would vaseline be more effective?

That's mineral oil and depending on how it was made may or may not have petroleum in it. Some is safe, some is not, but it always dries out over time.

As for Vaseline, anything petroleum based (and Vaseline is) will damage the plastic in the switch.

Eh, this isn't very accurate tbh. Vaseline definitely isn't mineral oil, it's often a dewax of Short, and "petroleum-based" is not a great term and technically Krytox is derived from petroleum as well (as is half of the entire chemical industry). The plastics used for switches are also petroleum-derived themselves.

So can I use all types of oils? Or what kind of oils would you recommend?

[Leslieann]

Eh, this isn't very accurate tbh. Vaseline definitely isn't mineral oil, it's often a dewax of Short, and "petroleum-based" is not a great term and technically Krytox is derived from petroleum as well (as is half of the entire chemical industry). The plastics used for switches are also petroleum-derived themselves.

I know it's not a great term but it's the simplest way to get it through people's head not to use random lubes.
Yes, many lubes are derived from petroleum and how that is done matters but unless you know the formulation the only way you know if it's safe or not is if the manufacturer says so and many products have multiple formulations, including ABS and mineral oil.

The switch plastic being petroleum based is the problem, the two combine and cause problems. It's the same reason you can't use glycol based coolant in open loop computer water cooling systems with PETG tubes and why you shouldn't use silicone based lube on silicone sex toys, they soften and begin to melt.