Female characters?

[Joxx]

I don't wear make up on a daily basis. I actually don't ever wear makeup at all unless its an occasion like a wedding or something.

And its not even so much not wanting to clash with egos. I just don't want preferential treatment or anything like that, that girl gamers try to get when they openly flaunt themselves as a female. I've earned my way up to some of the better and well-known and established MMO guilds because of my skill and dedication in games and I want to keep it that way. There will always be haters of course, but I know that I earned my place no matter what anyone says and that's what matters.

Pretty much the same here. I never wear make up. And pretty much spot on on what you said about treatments. Most guilds I have been in only knew I was a girl because it was asked in their application form. If I can avoid saying I am a female, I would rather do it. The girls that uses their genders to get things usually are the one creating dramas as well.

[Leslieann]

I don't wear make up on a daily basis. I actually don't ever wear makeup at all unless its an occasion like a wedding or something.

And its not even so much not wanting to clash with egos. I just don't want preferential treatment or anything like that, that girl gamers try to get when they openly flaunt themselves as a female. I've earned my way up to some of the better and well-known and established MMO guilds because of my skill and dedication in games and I want to keep it that way. There will always be haters of course, but I know that I earned my place no matter what anyone says and that's what matters.

I didn't mean they never do, but a lot of guys have the impression that women "naturally" always look "that way" and women often deny wearing any. Many do the same with perfume as well. However, no actual makeup seems to be becoming a bit more trendy.

But yeah, the whole point is to have respect based on skill, and not get special treatment.

[Michael]

I am very glad I quit wow when I did, from what I have heard, they went full on stupid and made doing dailies a requirement.

It's not a requirement if you don't care about vendor loot or mounts. You can get geared up pretty easily from Raid Finder. And sadly enough, I had no problem out-dpsing or out-healing people with full on raid gear from normal raids.

[Joxx]

I am very glad I quit wow when I did, from what I have heard, they went full on stupid and made doing dailies a requirement.

It's not a requirement if you don't care about vendor loot or mounts. You can get geared up pretty easily from Raid Finder. And sadly enough, I had no problem out-dpsing or out-healing people with full on raid gear from normal raids.

Are you really surprised? lol I actually came back to wow for like 2 months back in that dragon something raid and that was when they introduced the raid finder I believe (I quit after killing heroic rag so that was a long time ago and I believe raid finder wasn't out yet). And all I remembered was people being horrible at the game in those raid finders dungeons, my gear was way far behind everyone and my friend and I would just completely destroy people on DPS which is very very sad.
On the other note, I still have a tons of people in my friend list playing wow and all of them said that you are required to do those rep things to get tokens or something I was really confused.

[Michael]

I am very glad I quit wow when I did, from what I have heard, they went full on stupid and made doing dailies a requirement.

It's not a requirement if you don't care about vendor loot or mounts. You can get geared up pretty easily from Raid Finder. And sadly enough, I had no problem out-dpsing or out-healing people with full on raid gear from normal raids.

Are you really surprised? lol I actually came back to wow for like 2 months back in that dragon something raid and that was when they introduced the raid finder I believe (I quit after killing heroic rag so that was a long time ago and I believe raid finder wasn't out yet). And all I remembered was people being horrible at the game in those raid finders dungeons, my gear was way far behind everyone and my friend and I would just completely destroy people on DPS which is very very sad.
On the other note, I still have a tons of people in my friend list playing wow and all of them said that you are required to do those rep things to get tokens or something I was really confused.

I dunno. I still have fun playing, and I think that is mainly because of what a polished and solid game it is. I been through every phase of the game. Especially coming from hard-core (35+ hours a week) raiding from BC, downing Mu'ru pre-3.1 patch. Once that 3.1 patch hit, WoW was never the same. Completely geared towards casuals. Which is good for me now, because 'ain't nobody got time for that!!!'.

[dante]

It has been a while but I used to play quite a few fighting games - mainly King of Fighters.  I made it a habit of training with some of the weakest characters which were mainly female.  I did this so that I could not only beat my opponent but beat them the weakest characters possible aka humiliation.

[Joxx]

Well, you are right about them tailoring the game towards casuals. Except for heroic Lich King and heroic Ragnaros. Those were a pain in the ass and took forever.
I really like that they introduce the raid finder thing. The reason why I don't play the game is because of the 15$ a month. Also hard core raiding is just not my thing anymore but I also don't like to play with incompetent players. I was, at some point, in a top 15 guild or something like that and it was really painful because of how awful some players were. (I sound very elitist right now , my apologizes)
Most of my friends quit wow as well so it wouldn't be as enjoyable to play the games without them.

[gliy]

I've never understood males wanting to play female characters. To me I feel more immersed if my character is the same gender, also I generally prefer the outfits that males have in the games

[daerid]

Well, you are right about them tailoring the game towards casuals.

Oh hell no. You can't do anything worthwhile in WoW now by playing "casually". Before, I could hop in and run some dungeons and maybe LFR and get the VP cap and stock up on gear.

Now you can't get **** if you don't do the daily grind every freakin day

[Joxx]

I really don't get why they made daily so crucial. No one likes to do them, it should just be optional to get gold and some rep gear or something like when I used to play. Making it required to get some token cap is just ridiculous and why I am glad I didn't buy panda or playing it

[Michael]

Stop whining and play WoW with me..... or Tera. Either works....

[Joxx]

Stop whining and play WoW with me..... or Tera. Either works....

who are you talking to?

[Michael]

Stop whining and play WoW with me..... or Tera. Either works....


 

who are you talking to?

People that are whining about, but not playing WoW and or Tera.

[csloan1218]

Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.

[tjcaustin]

It's much too late for that now

[noisyturtle]

People still play WoW?

[Michael]

Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.

Welcome to the internet.

[csloan1218]

Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.

Welcome to the internet.

You misspelled geekhack.

[Michael]

Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.

Welcome to the internet.

You misspelled geekhack.

Clearly nobody ever goes off-topic on any forum, and engages in meaningful conversations. Clearly, everyone strictly sticks to the exact format in which you have clearly laid out, and ensured that nobody deviates from.


Yes, that must be the way the world should work.

[hashbaz]

Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas?  A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.

I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another.  I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.

That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create.  Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.

Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?

[davkol]

I wish more games were about actual role-playing. However, I don't think I could play female characters then.

[csloan1218]

I wish more games were about actual role-playing. However, I don't think I could play female characters then.

I've seen alot of rp servers, but I have yet to see one that actaully rp's.

[baldgye]

Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas?  A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.

I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another.  I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.

That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create.  Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.

Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?

I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful

[csloan1218]

Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas?  A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.

I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another.  I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.

That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create.  Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.

Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?

I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful

I think in a rpg environment the player can infer whatever they like to their avatar, but like you said that doesn't translate to anyone else unless overtly stated. I consider all players to be male, and if someone states otherwise and I would still be skeptical until I hear them on raidcall. The reason I would be skeptical is because unless someone outright asked, why would anyone tell you their gender in game unless they were trying convice you of something? I've never had that happen yet, but I have had "girls" who refused to voicechat for whatever reason and I've always wondered.

[Internetlad]

I would say more often than not I (as a male) play male characters when given a choice. Often on a second run, or a role-play run ,i'll build up a female character. On some occasions I build a character that I would find attractive if they were an actual person, other times not. An example is in Skyrim I created a female mage and had her quest for the skimpiest (stock) outfits in game. More often than not, though, I'll play it by by the book and give them a proper backstory to fit the character, or make them fit the backstory given by the game (My renegade female shepard looked like a hardened little number, a few scars, black lipstick and not what you would call traditionally "attractive")

TL;DR: When it's an aesthetic choice, I will, to expand my experience in a game. I'll also do it as a secondary account or for multiple playthroughs.

[baldgye]

Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas?  A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.

I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another.  I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.

That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create.  Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.

Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?

I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful

I think in a rpg environment the player can infer whatever they like to their avatar, but like you said that doesn't translate to anyone else unless overtly stated. I consider all players to be male, and if someone states otherwise and I would still be skeptical until I hear them on raidcall. The reason I would be skeptical is because unless someone outright asked, why would anyone tell you their gender in game unless they were trying convice you of something? I've never had that happen yet, but I have had "girls" who refused to voicechat for whatever reason and I've always wondered.

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I don't think gender has any impact in how you play/interact with a game, or at least shouldn't. So it's relevance is seemingly negligible, I've had people tell me they are girls when playing Starcraft 2, which is great and all but I don't actually care because the only thing that matters is how they play the game...

[Internetlad]

I don't think gender has any impact in how you play/interact with a game, or at least shouldn't. So it's relevance is seemingly negligible, I've had people tell me they are girls when playing Starcraft 2, which is great and all but I don't actually care because the only thing that matters is how they play the game...

In team based games, I do have to say that it DOES matter. I can't tell you how many times over the years some "gamer" chick has got on the mic on CS or TF2, and all of a sudden she has a 3 man white knight internet bodyguard posse protecting her, trying to get some e-ass.

I would have to say that when it comes down to online games, I am sexist because of that exact situation. On the flip side of the coin, I've met females who play online games who specifically don't identify themselves as female because, as noted, it simply doesn't matter and it merits all kinds of negative attention.

[Lighthouse1]

i've played mmo's for 10 years so quite simply a guy that plays a female is one or more.

1. horny (i.e. likes to look at boobs/but when running)
2. e**** (they pretend to be girls to get free stuff)
3. e-attention-**** (they just like attention
4. just decide "eh why not" (and once you level up a long time and like that character, you kinda stuck with it)

and that's it i've met literally hundreds of these "mangina's" and it's one of those traits or a combination.

now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.

i always play a guy, except in mass effect, the voice actor for the female lead is jennifer hale and shes the best female voice actress around, puts the male lead voice actor to shame (whoever he is).

Lolwat. Contrary to what you might think, some of us actually don't care to act like those girl gamers (not to be confused with actual gamer girls). I roll a male toon in every MMO because to me, they are more pleasing to look at and I would rather people who don't know me assume that I'm a guy and respect me for my skills and playing ability in a game rather than like me simply because I have boobs. I've been in a number of top/highly regarded guilds in several MMOs and can hold my own when it comes to end game pve content and pvp.

Same here, I have played mostly male characters in MMOs etc because I find a lot of 'women' are actually stereotyped guys running round in little bras playing a 'fake girly' version of women. I have however played in a couple of all female guilds and at least there everyone can just kick monster and have fun and the characters are then more varied..like women in real life. I think its a complete fallacy to suggest that females playing males are 'dumb' or don't exist.

I play a female character in single player games like ME if there is a choice as I prefer to, etc but in online games its actually fun to play a male character and kick back..I've RP'ed both sexes too in online games (played in a few persistent NWN worlds, DM'ed etc) and find that only in games where people take games seriously and actually know each other do you get no hassle playing as a girl. I like being able to just get in game and people can judge me on what I cast, not what breast size I selected when I rolled in.

I also find using a remotely female name in online shooters just comes with hassle..I prefer playing on hosted servers (where I play in a clan of ex and current military / Police types) where how you play is more important than what you have between your legs. I find some men just can't take being PVP'ed by women..which is weird really, it's a computer game, we didn't break in to your house and cut your manhood off with a rusty spoon or anything. It's a kid's game made adult only by the people playing it at the end of the day.

It's not surprising you get a lot of sexism in games given the average target age in some games, but its worse sometimes among so called adults who if they watched themselves with an adult female from their own household, would probably be mortified at themselves. Online 'hiding' behind a screen brings out some true weirdness.

[ideus]

Welcome to the club
 

It's easier for me to like an attractive woman than an attractive man. That simple.

[csloan1218]

Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas?  A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.

I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another.  I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.

That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create.  Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.

Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?

I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful

I think in a rpg environment the player can infer whatever they like to their avatar, but like you said that doesn't translate to anyone else unless overtly stated. I consider all players to be male, and if someone states otherwise and I would still be skeptical until I hear them on raidcall. The reason I would be skeptical is because unless someone outright asked, why would anyone tell you their gender in game unless they were trying convice you of something? I've never had that happen yet, but I have had "girls" who refused to voicechat for whatever reason and I've always wondered.

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I don't think gender has any impact in how you play/interact with a game, or at least shouldn't. So it's relevance is seemingly negligible, I've had people tell me they are girls when playing Starcraft 2, which is great and all but I don't actually care because the only thing that matters is how they play the game...

Perhaps youre right, but in my experience just liking my toon makes a big difference in my play and interaction with any game.

I've never played starcraft (not really into rts), but I thought gender didn't play a role in that game like mmo's. I thought you just picked a team like in CnC.

[GeoTang]

You're not playing yourself in a game (generally), you're playing a character that you made! Nothing's wrong with playing either gender.

Also @Joxx, GW2's not that bad :C
You picked the worst/best outfits they have. There's only one or two more that are that revealing. GW2's honestly pretty tame.

[Leslieann]

You're not playing yourself in a game (generally), you're playing a character that you made! Nothing's wrong with playing either gender.

If only people understood that better.

[ideus]

I think it is totally up to the player if he or she wants to play him / her self or something else, and that is precisely part of the game, to provide some freedom from the self. What other will think? well, it may matters to some and not matter to others, who cares?

You're not playing yourself in a game (generally), you're playing a character that you made! Nothing's wrong with playing either gender.

If only people understood that better.

[bear95]

A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...

[ideus]

Examples?

A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...

[csloan1218]

Examples?

A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...

I know the diablo series is guilty of that.

[gliy]

Examples?

A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...

I know the diablo series is guilty of that.

Path of exile does this as well.

[bear95]

League of Legends

[Internetlad]

I think games with preset female characters isn't what the OP meant. I understood it as, when you make your own character and it's purely an aesthetic choice. (or at least mostly, ie fallout's 1 alternate perk and 10 alternate speech options)

I don't think he meant "Does anybody play as drow ranger in DOTA"

[Lanx]

it about the choices you could make, i recently got my wife dark souls: die edition or whatever, she instantly went to create a girl. 20 hours later i'm playing her character.
1. she threw the controller at me and said, horror! (she hates horror)
2. she wants to see the story
3. i looked at a faq, i'm only 10% done! fck this game

for this game it really makes no difference you're basically a skeleton all the time!

[Grim Fandango]

I do not see the problem. Just go for whatever you think looks cool. I do not think anyone thinks that because an ingame character is femake, that automatically means that the player is female too. I also do not think that players personify with the character, making it some kind of weird online drag.

Personally I tend to play male characters when I have the choice.

[Binge]

it about the choices you could make, i recently got my wife dark souls: die edition or whatever, she instantly went to create a girl. 20 hours later i'm playing her character.
1. she threw the controller at me and said, horror! (she hates horror)
2. she wants to see the story
3. i looked at a faq, i'm only 10% done! fck this game

for this game it really makes no difference you're basically a skeleton all the time!

Love that game.  Love that gender is non-sense in it.  Only the badassiest of asses survive.

This thread/subject matter is nonsense.  For those people who allows their actions to be swayed by the sex of a fictional character I seriously question your ability to function.  How do you live life?  Do you wear glasses with penis/vagina stickers on the lenses to make your conversations more "enjoyable".  Grow up.

[Spokoman]

I play both. One of my friends plays only female characters. His reasoning "If I'm going to stare at the... "back" of a character for hours and hours, I'd rather it's a hot chick".

The other friend picked a female character when we played Lineage II. The weird thing was that when we joined some clan he pretended to be a girl IRL. I didn't understand it, but he did get a lot of free items 

[Masterchief79]

Also have a female main character in Dragon Age 2. Just: Why not? It's kinda fun to not always play the male characters.

[Lanx]

i was playing dark souls, and my wife was like "oh is that still my character?" i'm like yea, how'd you know? cuz the character is all armoured up. She's like, cuz she struts and walks like a girl.

[Internetlad]

i was playing dark souls, and my wife was like "oh is that still my character?" i'm like yea, how'd you know? cuz the character is all armoured up. She's like, cuz she struts and walks like a girl.

You can't hide anything from women, man. They have psychic powers.

[Malphas]

I do find it slightly odd. Mass Effect in particular seemed inundated with guys playing as femshep, and I don't really understand why.

Things like WoW or games where the gender of the character is secondary to the attributes of their class (e.g. Borderlands) don't count, obviously.