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Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 17:37:31 »
I found this article really good.  Summed up some of the thoughts that have passed through my mind over the years, although I was not an extremely gifted child.  My mother did tell me I was special.

http://theunboundedspirit.com/existential-depression-in-gifted-children/

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 17:42:20 »
my mom tells me im special and handsome!

which in the real world means ugly and stupid :(
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 17:42:33 »
I think smarter kids learn about existentialism while the others don't. :))

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 17:43:04 »
I'm in almost the exact same boat as the article described.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:21:48 »

Just reminds me of this.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:24:55 »
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:29:24 »
my mom tells me im special and handsome!

which in the real world means ugly and stupid :(

See I knew we had something in common. :D

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 20:25:13 »

Just reminds me of this.
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Yea.  That's exactly the kind of stuff referring to.  I was in Hong Kong back in 1994 when they had the old airport.  It was like staring death in the eyes.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 20:34:32 »
Here is the original article.
http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10269.aspx

My take:

"They call me 'gifted' but what do they know: Even if I am more intelligent, I have gained no happiness or peace from it; the predilection towards mental illness certainly isn't worth it. "

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 21:20:57 »
Thanks, I am going through a similar phase right now.


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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 25 February 2014, 21:47:03 »
The trick of dealing with existentialism depression is to hang out with people who are more existentialist than you and whine about it constantly.
You'll quickly normalize  :p



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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:07:59 »
Apparently, this article already made the rounds on the black hole of the internet, aka reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/psychology/comments/1iqj6o/existential_depression_in_gifted_children/
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:57:27 »

Just reminds me of this.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 12:58:50 »
You know you're the product of a sick society when your intelligence can make you mentally ill. Not that I agree with the article entirely but there's some truth in it despite being kind of pretentious.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 13:33:51 »
You know you're the product of a sick society when your intelligence can make you mentally ill. Not that I agree with the article entirely but there's some truth in it despite being kind of pretentious.

I would consider it more of a species-wide thing.  Tolerance for people different than the prevailing expectations of the tribe has never been a popular trend (said the armchair anthropologist).
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 20:16:31 »
I'm a somewhat gifted child, given that I'm technically in eighth grade and studying integral calculus, but I've never really dealt with this sort of thing.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 20:18:44 »
I'm a somewhat gifted child, given that I'm technically in eighth grade and studying integral calculus, but I've never really dealt with this sort of thing.

Smart =/= gifted
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 20:22:59 »
I'm a somewhat gifted child, given that I'm technically in eighth grade and studying integral calculus, but I've never really dealt with this sort of thing.

Smart =/= gifted
I'm well aware of that fact.

Are you saying that if you're smart, you can't be gifted?
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:11:01 »
I'm a somewhat gifted child, given that I'm technically in eighth grade and studying integral calculus, but I've never really dealt with this sort of thing.

You're clearly not gifted enough, obviously.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:12:52 »
I'm a somewhat gifted child, given that I'm technically in eighth grade and studying integral calculus, but I've never really dealt with this sort of thing.

Smart =/= gifted
I'm well aware of that fact.

Are you saying that if you're smart, you can't be gifted?

No of course not.. I'm saying being book smart doesn't mean you're gifted. I am gifted and a lot of people have had the misconception that gifted = smart.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:20:18 »
I thought gifted was the new special.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 03:07:10 »
where has "alternatively minded" gone?
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 03:09:19 »
my mom tells me im special and handsome!

which in the real world means ugly and stupid :(
My mum says I have a face for the radio...  :rolleyes:
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 10:37:11 »
I'm a somewhat gifted child, given that I'm technically in eighth grade and studying integral calculus, but I've never really dealt with this sort of thing.

Smart =/= gifted
I'm well aware of that fact.

Are you saying that if you're smart, you can't be gifted?

No of course not.. I'm saying being book smart doesn't mean you're gifted. I am gifted and a lot of people have had the misconception that gifted = smart.

Yeah, from what I understand smart kids are the ones who work hard to learn the material in order to get good grades, while gifted kids are the ones who are more self directed learners, and learn because it's interesting, not because it gets you a good grade. A perfect example of one of those smart kids would be my brother. He always gets A's and does his homework. But once he's out of school and done with that, he won't touch anything learning related unless it's homework or some other assignment. I hate homework a lot, and rarely do it. I just don't see the point, but after I get home and maybe do my homework, I spend most of the remainder of the day reading about whatever catches my interest at the time. Sometimes it's calculus, sometimes it's machining, some it's I don't even know what. I'm not saying that just because I like learning I'm better than my brother, though. He's probably going to end up making 10x as much money as I will, because he's good at doing things, no matter how pointless, as long as there's some reward at the end if he does a good job, like a paycheck or degree.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 11:19:03 »
where has "alternatively minded" gone?


I think we call these people "free spirits" now.  The government or your employer might see them "problem citizens or employees."
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:31:41 »
I was gifted once.

Used the receipt to return and cash it in.

Now I'm wealthier than I once was.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:16:17 »
This article has described me since about 4th grade.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 23:47:27 »
I was gifted once.

Used the receipt to return and cash it in.

Now I'm wealthier than I once was.

and happier!

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:46:17 »
Rereading this article and the comments on the link from dorkvader has done a wonderful job of reintroducing the existential dread that has been absent from my life for a few months.  I find that bolt-modding is a great distraction from these navel-gazing thoughts, proving once again how keyboards can save your life.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 14:10:49 »
I've been called "gifted" quite frequently. Or was, until it turned out I'm a comeplete ****ing psycho. Seriously, I'm on like 5 different pills for this. It's not just depression, either, I've got all the really ****ty mental illnesses.

So yeah, next time you say, "I'm going crazy" just think about me.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 15:28:42 »
I've been called "gifted" quite frequently. Or was, until it turned out I'm a comeplete ****ing psycho. Seriously, I'm on like 5 different pills for this. It's not just depression, either, I've got all the really ****ty mental illnesses.

So yeah, next time you say, "I'm going crazy" just think about me.

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I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 15:39:25 »
I've been called "gifted" quite frequently. Or was, until it turned out I'm a comeplete ****ing psycho. Seriously, I'm on like 5 different pills for this. It's not just depression, either, I've got all the really ****ty mental illnesses.

So yeah, next time you say, "I'm going crazy" just think about me.

*I'm quite bitter about spending the last few days in the hospital. Again.

That sounds normal for New York.

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 15:44:35 »
I've been called "gifted" quite frequently. Or was, until it turned out I'm a comeplete ****ing psycho. Seriously, I'm on like 5 different pills for this. It's not just depression, either, I've got all the really ****ty mental illnesses.

So yeah, next time you say, "I'm going crazy" just think about me.

*I'm quite bitter about spending the last few days in the hospital. Again.
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:12:57 »
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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 01 March 2014, 04:32:20 »
I've been called "gifted" quite frequently. Or was, until it turned out I'm a comeplete ****ing psycho. Seriously, I'm on like 5 different pills for this. It's not just depression, either, I've got all the really ****ty mental illnesses.

So yeah, next time you say, "I'm going crazy" just think about me.

*I'm quite bitter about spending the last few days in the hospital. Again.
are you a finnish american?

no sir, mostly russian
а, ну это всё объясняет.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 02 March 2014, 09:46:46 »
Most geeks probably suffer from the same thing.

The best cure? I don't know. Make your own guns and wipe out the jocks, then force the cheerleaders to mate with you, so that you can perpetuate geekdom into the next generation?

Most of the modding can be done on your own once you break through the psychological barriers.

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Re: Existential Depression in Gifted Children
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 02 March 2014, 10:12:00 »
I've been called "gifted" quite frequently. Or was, until it turned out I'm a comeplete ****ing psycho. Seriously, I'm on like 5 different pills for this. It's not just depression, either, I've got all the really ****ty mental illnesses.

So yeah, next time you say, "I'm going crazy" just think about me.

*I'm quite bitter about spending the last few days in the hospital. Again.
are you a finnish american?

no sir, mostly russian
а, ну это всё объясняет.

I don't speak much Russian (I do speak a few of the far eastern languages though), my family is just full of russians who escaped during the revolution.

I guess it does explain a lot of it, though.

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