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Linux distro question for beginner
« on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 11:53:47 »
So, I have an older laptop that I want to travel with.  I work construction, so this will not be used for work.  Just going to sit in the hotel. 

Intended usage is web browsing, skype with kids, Netflix, and KiCad.

Laptop is an older model that has Windows 8.1.

Specs are AMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 1.7GHz
4GB ram
No touch screen
500ish GB hard drive.

Keeping the wireless working is required.  Though these days that shouldn't be a problem.  I have next to zero experience with Linux but am curious and willing to try.  This laptop is not a primary machine, so not required to run 100%, so if I screw up something, not as much of an issue.

Mostly curious about which distros to look into.

The ones I have seen recommended are Ubuntu, Mint, and Deepin.  Though Xubuntu has been suggested due to relatively low power of this system.

Any suggestions and recommendations with tips, tricks, or web pages with these would be great.
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 12:07:14 »
Mint's GUI is better IMO but you will get more compatibility with Ubuntu, specifically Skype/Netflix as i think there is an actual skype release for Ubuntu as well as google chrome for Ubuntu that will play netflix.

I would recommend you dual boot your laptop as you begin to learn linux, diving in and formatting may end up being a bad idea for someone that knows nothing yet.

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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 12:18:17 »
Mint's GUI is better IMO but you will get more compatibility with Ubuntu, specifically Skype/Netflix as i think there is an actual skype release for Ubuntu as well as google chrome for Ubuntu that will play netflix.

I would recommend you dual boot your laptop as you begin to learn linux, diving in and formatting may end up being a bad idea for someone that knows nothing yet.
I wouldn't use stock Ubuntu though, unity can go die in a fire for all I care. If you want a pretty intuitive Ubuntu base go for Xubuntu, XFCE is a lot nicer than Unity and doesn't have ads and garbage in it. Mint is the go-to but if you want to do netflix without working too hard then an Ubuntu variant is a good choice. If you want to go all in try installing Arch, if you don't mind your computer being a mess for a week straight while you get it together for the first time then it'll be a learning experience, I had a good time setting it up the first time I did it.

If you want the lowest power option, go to Lubuntu because that's the specialized low-end version of Ubuntu variants and LXDE is pretty simple. Any of the Ubuntu variants are a decent enough choice, even if I have strong opinions about Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Regardless of where you go, look at the Arch wiki some, even if it doesn't apply 100% to your distro, and even as stiff as they can be in the forums sometimes, it's a massive wealth of information.
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 12:34:43 »
Thanks for the suggestions guys.  I think I am going to try Lubuntu first off.  This laptop does have Win 8.1, but seems to run slow, programs opening, hell even webpages open slow. 
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 15:48:43 »
If you have any problems with stuttering or video/audio latency in general maybe check out a low latency kernel/headers for your distro. I saw that you mentioned Skype as a top priority. If you pick Linux Mint and have issues don't stress like I did haha. You're pc is spec'd higher so you probably won't have the latency problems that I was experiencing :thumb:
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 17:12:54 »
I am using Mint 18 + Cinnamon on a lesser laptop than yours and it works great.

Mint/Cinnamon is very comfortable and much more familiar for a Windows user.

I dabbled with Ubuntu off and on for 6-8 years but am much happier in Mint.
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 19:25:42 »
For a Linux laptop, your laptop isn't great, but it isn't terrible either and should be more than capable of running any distro you want just fine. Lubuntu and such are actually geared towards even older, slower hardware than you have.

Mint and Lubuntu both have a more familiar interface, which is good, however, Lubuntu lacks some of the more modern graphics acceleration that your APU can take advantage of so in terms of speed and battery life I wouldn't be surprised if they run neck and neck. If you like Lubuntu, you may also want to try Peppermint, it's like a tweaked Lubuntu. If you use Cinnamon, disable the animations, it will help speed it up a bit. Regarding Deepin, it looks really cool and has some neat features, I like the sidebar, but I found it not nearly as polished as other desktops in many areas, the same applies to Elementary but it's another you may want to try in a quest for something new. While most distros use an older style taskbar with large tabs, many have an alternate version with grouped icons like Windows uses and there is also Mac style docks you can use on any distro. Your choices are actually huge.

My advice, try a bunch but stick to the Ubuntu family and kin such as Lubuntu, Peppermint, and Mint. Support is better, not just in terms of help, but in app support as well. You may want to install Virtualbox to make this easier and faster. You can install a bunch and flip back and forth without constantly re-installing. When I got serious about switching one thing I did that helped was to install the ones I liked in Virtualbox, and then install all of my programs and kept notes. This way I could see which ones had problems and could be corrected and which were show stoppers, it also meant that I knew exactly how to do get everything set up when I did my final install, in fact I was quite comfortable by then.

Here is a list of Ubuntu based distros:
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=All&origin=All&basedon=Ubuntu&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&status=Active

I would also recommend downloading something like Macreum Reflect, Active Disk Image, Acronis, etc.. and imaging your current drive, just in case you want to sell it, or return to Windows for some reason.


By the way, you can expect to lose 30-40% battery life unless you do some tweaking.
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 13 November 2016, 21:08:36 »

I may polish it and post it anyway for those interested.


Yes, please do this.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 14 November 2016, 10:18:29 »
Honestly if it were me, I'd get an SSD to replace the hard drive to eliminate an easy bottleneck. As most others say, Xubuntu probably wouldn't be a bad bet due to how much lighter it is than the regular Ubuntu. Lubuntu could work too but I personally haven't had much luck with that one lol.
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Re: Linux distro question for beginner
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 14 November 2016, 17:09:57 »
Well, after some messing around, making a live USB thumb drive, I can't get Lubuntu to install, or even "Load without installing". 

I downloaded the ISO from lubuntu, made the live USB stick, it would load, I would get the proper screen, and didn't matter if I clicked install, or load without install, all I would get would be a black screen.  I let it sit for 15 minutes, and still nothing.  So, I think I am going stick with the Windows 8.1 that is already on it. 

So in light of that.  I am going to lock this thread, and start a new one, looking for suggestions to strip out all the bloat ware in an effort to get this thing running decent.
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